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seems like he has a 1-week audition right now. fully healthy, against a mediocre run d. last week he was thrown into the fire vs a good run d on the road and coming off an injury.

if he blows up this week, maybe he's huge down the stretch? anybody else see it as a possibility?

 
It's a huge if that he a) blows up and b) stays healthy. Brown just seems to me like a mediocre back, one of Polians few misses.

 
Charles and Jerome Harrison had no competition for touches. It's a different situation. Even if Brown blows up the best he could hope for is a split with Addai when he's back. He won't win the job outright. The only way Brown could light it up is if Addai is done for the year.

 
I own Brown, and I just don't see this happening.

For one, Brown was pulled inside the 10 last week twice for J. James, which turned what could have been a very nice fantasy outing into a meh one. It worked for the Colts, so I doubt they'd do things differently this week.

On top of that, Addai is aiming to play next week. Even if he doesn't, it doesn't sound like his injury will keep him out for the season by any means.

Finally, Mike Hart is still in the mix at some point, assuming his ankle improves enough for him to play in a few weeks.

I might be forced to start him this week, and even under the best possible circumstances this week (no Addai, no Hart, beatable defense) I'm just hoping he gets me some combined yardage, as I'm resigned to James vulturing the goaline work.

I'd look elsewhere for this years Harrison or Charles.

 
Agreed. I've owned him for two years and am still waiting for him to blow up. After his first semi-decent showing ever last week, I cut my losses and shipped him off for Flacco

RenegadeGM said:
I own Brown, and I just don't see this happening.For one, Brown was pulled inside the 10 last week twice for J. James, which turned what could have been a very nice fantasy outing into a meh one. It worked for the Colts, so I doubt they'd do things differently this week.On top of that, Addai is aiming to play next week. Even if he doesn't, it doesn't sound like his injury will keep him out for the season by any means. Finally, Mike Hart is still in the mix at some point, assuming his ankle improves enough for him to play in a few weeks.I might be forced to start him this week, and even under the best possible circumstances this week (no Addai, no Hart, beatable defense) I'm just hoping he gets me some combined yardage, as I'm resigned to James vulturing the goaline work.I'd look elsewhere for this years Harrison or Charles.
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Not a chance. The Colts know their best chance is with #18. The RB this year in Indy will not be a huge FF producer, they just won't. Top 15 at BEST in terms of RBs if someone can stay healthy. Look elsewhere.

 
As a Colts homer, I'm going to have to say there's no chance. He'll always have competition for carries. Even if he didn't have to worry about splits with Addai and/or Hart once they're healthy, the Colts pretty firmly established he's not a goal line back last week by giving the ball to Javarris James (:hawkscreech:) in those situations. Not going to happen.

As a Colts fan I'm just hoping he can develop into a decent RBBC type back and right now even that looks bleak.

 
Can't disagree with the general consensus. He hasn't looked great this year and Addai will be back at some point and will start then. But I do disagree with the general notion that we know he just isn't any good. He's not a superstar and won't become one, but I am not at all convinced that he won't be as good or even better than Addai when all is said and done. Needless to say, this week will be an important one. If he doesn't show more this week then I will have to jump on the hatin bandwagon too.

 
I think Brown has a chance to be really good, I'm going against the grain here.

He's had 2 or 3 runs that really impressed me, one last year and one early this year. He has talent, but I think his injury kept him from performing well.

He did very well last week in the receiving game and showed promise for the future.

In dynasty, he is a bigtime buy right now, as I really think he'll be given the chance to compete for a starting job next year. In re-draft though, his value is finished as soon as Addai comes back. In fact, when Addai and Hart are full strength, I'd be wary starting any Indy RB, as I think they'll all get used to some degree.

Great spot start this week though. Could have a big week.

 
With Addai a free-agent next year they are still going to have see what they have in Brown. If he doesn't take a dive look for him getting a majority of the touches as the Colts wind down their regular season; IND does have a reputation of resting it's starters. Addai injury seems pretty serious, with him still not being able to lift his arm above his head and not much strength in it. As a Brown owner for two years I don't have much promise for him, but knowing what I could get for him and potential (mostly playing on Indy); I just don't see moving him after his first okay game, FFP wise.

 
What do people think the implications of the Joique Bell pick up are? It would seem to indicate the Colts are not expecting to get either or both Addai and Hart back in the near term.

 
i don't think Brown has regained his burst yet from the hammy injury. in the limited action he had last year he showed some real zip on his runs...........haven't seen any of that in his chance to shine last 2weeks. if he gets another game or 2(and if doesn't pull it again) i think we may start to see more explosion and what the colts saw in him as a high draft pick.

 
I don't see Addai coming back soon. Apparently he still can't raise his arm. He got really beat up that last game he played, and got some nerve damage on the hit that knocked him out. The fact that IND keeps trying out new RBs off the wire (Andre Brown, now Joique Bell) suggests they are worried about this too.

Brown's Achilles was his pass blocking. I am not sure if it's improved. I don't think anyone has ever confused him with an off-tackle bruiser. But, if he is now healthy, I think you might see some of what I recall seeing last year: good hands, quickness out of the backfield.

If he's used in that fashion, and also gets some draws/delays, he might have some very good games if he can get 15 touches.

I am not giving up on him yet.

 
Black said:
I don't see Addai coming back soon. Apparently he still can't raise his arm. He got really beat up that last game he played, and got some nerve damage on the hit that knocked him out. The fact that IND keeps trying out new RBs off the wire (Andre Brown, now Joique Bell) suggests they are worried about this too.Brown's Achilles was his pass blocking. I am not sure if it's improved. I don't think anyone has ever confused him with an off-tackle bruiser. But, if he is now healthy, I think you might see some of what I recall seeing last year: good hands, quickness out of the backfield. If he's used in that fashion, and also gets some draws/delays, he might have some very good games if he can get 15 touches.I am not giving up on him yet.
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I haven't seen him play much this year, but everything I have read on here from others suggests that the blocking is fine now. He catches well too. And last week he converted the third down runs, which is key. What we haven't seen is the ability to make a big play running yet and make people miss.
 
az_prof said:
Black said:
I don't see Addai coming back soon. Apparently he still can't raise his arm. He got really beat up that last game he played, and got some nerve damage on the hit that knocked him out. The fact that IND keeps trying out new RBs off the wire (Andre Brown, now Joique Bell) suggests they are worried about this too.

Brown's Achilles was his pass blocking. I am not sure if it's improved. I don't think anyone has ever confused him with an off-tackle bruiser. But, if he is now healthy, I think you might see some of what I recall seeing last year: good hands, quickness out of the backfield.

If he's used in that fashion, and also gets some draws/delays, he might have some very good games if he can get 15 touches.

I am not giving up on him yet.
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I haven't seen him play much this year, but everything I have read on here from others suggests that the blocking is fine now. He catches well too. And last week he converted the third down runs, which is key. What we haven't seen is the ability to make a big play running yet and make people miss.
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I'm one of the few on here that believe Brown is in for a big day. He does everything well, he's been playing hurt and the big plays will come when he's fully healthy.
 
Construction Man Jim said:
What do people think the implications of the Joique Bell pick up are? It would seem to indicate the Colts are not expecting to get either or both Addai and Hart back in the near term.
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Bell was a cheap pickup for short term depth, nothing more. I like Brown for the next game or two and even am starting him (over Blount) this week, but I'm desperate in that league with Spiller and DWill my other backs. I don't expect much.
 
Not sure of the comparison to last years Harrison/Charles. Addai is slated to be back wk 11(so I read) and Hart soon after which make Brown back to his roll before the 2 got injured. Now if Addai/Hart are out indefinitely then maybe.

 
towney said:
Not sure of the comparison to last years Harrison/Charles. Addai is slated to be back wk 11(so I read) and Hart soon after which make Brown back to his roll before the 2 got injured. Now if Addai/Hart are out indefinitely then maybe.
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there don't seem to be any indicators that addai will be back next week.
 
Can Colts homers chime in a bit more on Addai :boxing:

What's the deal....seems they're are alot of conflicting reports in this thread alone and I can't seem to find any solid info on whether he'll be back soon if at all :boxing:

 
The Colts organization has a history of being tight lipped about injuries. A few years ago, Marvin Harrison had a knee (or ankle) injury - Dungy @ co. impllied that he'd be back in a few weeks - i think he was out for over half a season . . .

as for Addai, they said like 2-8 weeks, which basically means that they know how long and they aren't telling . .

I'd guess it would be closer to eight, since if it was a minor injury they'd be more open about telling us . . .

 
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cvnpoka said:
basher said:
Otis said:
No chance. He's not very good.
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agreed ... he looks mediocre even in situations where he should accel
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ppl said the same thing about lesean mccoy. and i would say its false that dbrown has never shown "burst."
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I saw burst in the first four weeks last season before he got hurt. Now, he has been hurt almost all the time. But I don't agree that he has has shown nothing.
 
bonesman said:
FantasyMan said:
Tusken Raider said:
This still makes me :lmao:

I love DB's "What?" expression.
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Brown didn't do anything wrong on that play. :confused:
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really?!? You think you know more about that play than Peyton Fing Manning?!?

I think he was supposed to slide out into the left flat probably.
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I find it funny how people keep posting the same play from over a year ago. And now that I look at it, what's really bad is how bad the OL blocks. The LT is the one who is beaten, 1 on 1. And the LG blocks no one. He should have helped the LT as soon as he saw no blitz. Football is a team sport. Lots of fail in that play.
 
az_prof said:
I saw burst in the first four weeks last season before he got hurt. Now, he has been hurt almost all the time. But I don't agree that he has has shown nothing.
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He's definitely more explosive than Addai, or at least was as a rookie. Who knows what toll the injuries have taken, he hasn't looked great this year. He's still subpar in many aspects of his game, including blocking, despite him improving from his rookie year.Right now, Addai seems to be the better RB. I'd be surprised to see the Colts not try to resign Addai after the season.
 
Brown is a very good back in his own right. Anyone who has seen him play before this year knows this. He is obviously less than 100% this year, use with caution, no way he is now fully healthy, he has no burst. next year he will be cheap and a great sleeper

 
kd1 said:
seems like he has a 1-week audition right now. fully healthy, against a mediocre run d. last week he was thrown into the fire vs a good run d on the road and coming off an injury.if he blows up this week, maybe he's huge down the stretch? anybody else see it as a possibility?
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Zero chanceBrown is just not that good and Addai and Hart will both be back in another week
 
Looks like this is a good buy-low moment in dynasty, but the best buy-low moment probably comes the day after Addai re-signs. Brown has been banged up and ineffective so far, while Addai has probably earned another contract, but Brown is the younger back and will have his opportunities to play a big role in a Peyton Manning offense.

 
Captain Hook said:
kd1 said:
seems like he has a 1-week audition right now. fully healthy, against a mediocre run d. last week he was thrown into the fire vs a good run d on the road and coming off an injury.

if he blows up this week, maybe he's huge down the stretch? anybody else see it as a possibility?
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Zero chanceBrown is just not that good and Addai and Hart will both be back in another week
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hehe. where does it say that again? just a link would be cool.
 
switz said:
FantasyMan said:
switz said:
Can we put this idea to rest now? Brown just isn't that good.
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The guy averages 4.2 ypc and you're ready to dismiss him? :thumbup:
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He looked awful, outside of one nice run. He got pulled at the GL, and was a non-factor in the passing game.As soon as Addai or Hart come back, he'll be back on the bench.
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Classic. Except for that one long run.... Did you see the blocking on most of his carries? If you take away that one long run you might as well take away the dozen where he got hit at or behind the line of scrimmage. I still haven't seen enough to form a judgement, but I don't see how we can write him off yet. He sure hasn't blown me away, but he hasn't looked awful. Average so far.

Here is the play in question: he eludes one tackler in backfield, then eludes another, then stiff arms another. This wasn't the case of a gaping hole that he just falls into and benefits from. So, hard to justify eliminating it when looking at his 4.2 ypc for the day.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/0900...Brown-21-yd-run

 
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switz said:
FantasyMan said:
switz said:
Can we put this idea to rest now? Brown just isn't that good.
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The guy averages 4.2 ypc and you're ready to dismiss him? :(
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He looked awful, outside of one nice run. He got pulled at the GL, and was a non-factor in the passing game.As soon as Addai or Hart come back, he'll be back on the bench.
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he looked ok, but didn't get enough work. i'll tell you one rb who is clearly terrible though, and that's javarris james.oh, and can you tell me when exactly addai or hart are coming back? ty.
 
Whether he's injured or not, he's not passing the eyeball test. He's got the same blockers as Mike Hart and Addai and yet he keeps getting dropped in the backfield or 1-2 yard gains too often.

I just don't see any running with conviction. No power. He dances into the hole and usually is dropped with initial contact. There's a reason he's not being used at the goal line.

As a dynasty owner, his value couldn't be lower right now. Just my opinion.

 
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Futz said:
Whether he's injured or not, he's not passing the eyeball test. He's got the same blockers as Mike Hart and Addai and yet he keeps getting dropped in the backfield or 1-2 yard gains too often.I just don't see any running with conviction. No power. He dances into the hole and usually is dropped with initial contact. There's a reason he's not being used at the goal line.As a dynasty owner, his value couldn't be lower right now. Just my opinion.
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excellent post . . .
 
Anyone have new opinions on Brown after a better showing last week? He seemed to be in at the goalline which was encouraging, and overall looked better. I think that may be because I released him before the game though :P .. A blowup game against SD might make things interesting in Indy..

 
Mag1234 said:
Anyone have new opinions on Brown after a better showing last week? He seemed to be in at the goalline which was encouraging, and overall looked better. I think that may be because I released him before the game though :) .. A blowup game against SD might make things interesting in Indy..
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who knows. i still think there's an outside to decent shot that addai is done for the season. so the opportunity may be there the rest of the way. the colts seemingly have no run blocking though, and brown is now 0 for 2 in his chances. 1 50+ yd td sunday night would change things in a hurry though.
 
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