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Native said:
He threw for 375 yards and 3 TD's. His 4th down pass at the end of the game was on the money - only for Curtis to drop it. Yet he will still be the lightning rod for criticism that the Eagles lost. I just dont get it. They had no running game to speak of today (again) and a pedestrian group of WR's. Some players are just like that I guess.
5 times NFC Championship game no rings the blame has to fall somewhere. 1 or 2 times ok but 5 is a trend and you get labeled. It is what it is.
 
Native said:
He threw for 375 yards and 3 TD's. His 4th down pass at the end of the game was on the money - only for Curtis to drop it. Yet he will still be the lightning rod for criticism that the Eagles lost. I just dont get it. They had no running game to speak of today (again) and a pedestrian group of WR's. Some players are just like that I guess.
if he doesnt throw 3 yds behind baskett the play before, then they're not even in that 4th down. get a clue, apologist
Yep Mcnabb is great if he can stand back there and throw but you get pressure on him he gets happy feet and is very inaccurate. Big Ben on the other hand thrives in that kinda situation. That is why he has a championship and is going for two and Mcnabb will be watching at home or from the stands.
 
For those of you hammering Philly fans for not embracing McNabb, try watching a few more Philly games. Todays game was a microcosm of every game McNabb has played the last 5 years. First half you suck, second half youre brilliant.McNabb piles up some good stats but he is terrible if his team needs him in the last 5 minutes to win a game.
Tony Romo Jr?
nah, McNabb always makes it further, with a lot less talent on the team
Romo has a couple of more years left then Mcnabb does. If he just gets one ring that will be better then Mcnabbs 5 NFC championshipe games 1-4 and 0-1 in the Bowl. Simple as that.
 
6 posts in a row?Overdoing it on the schadenfreude there Mustang Man? :football:
Yeah I am over doing it. You know what I take a lot of bs being a Cowboys fan and Philly I hate the most. I really have no hate for Mcnabb I think he is a pretty damn good qb it is the fans. They deserve this, really they do. I am happy to be the one that looks like the bad guy and say what a lot of Dallas fans are thinking as they sit home happy as hell that Philly choked once again and serve them some fresh #### crow. Eat up boys and gals
 
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The dude has taken his team to 5 NFCCG in 10 seasons and 1 Super Bowl. He obviously has one a few games for his team.

Jim Kelly was 0-4 in the Super Bowl? Choke artist? HOFer?

 
Native said:
He threw for 375 yards and 3 TD's. His 4th down pass at the end of the game was on the money - only for Curtis to drop it. Yet he will still be the lightning rod for criticism that the Eagles lost. I just dont get it. They had no running game to speak of today (again) and a pedestrian group of WR's. Some players are just like that I guess.
if he doesnt throw 3 yds behind baskett the play before, then they're not even in that 4th down. get a clue, apologist
Yep Mcnabb is great if he can stand back there and throw but you get pressure on him he gets happy feet and is very inaccurate. Big Ben on the other hand thrives in that kinda situation. That is why he has a championship and is going for two and Mcnabb will be watching at home or from the stands.
:lmao: :towelwave: :banned: :own3d: and its why,someday, Big Ben will be in the HOF , while McNabb will still be making Campbell's soup commercials with his mom. :lmao: :lmao:

 
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6 posts in a row?Overdoing it on the schadenfreude there Mustang Man? :bag:
Yeah I am over doing it. You know what I take a lot of bs being a Cowboys fan and Philly I hate the most. I really have no hate for Mcnabb I think he is a pretty damn good qb it is the fans. They deserve this, really they do. I am happy to be the one that looks like the bad guy and say what a lot of Dallas fans are thinking as they sit home happy as hell that Philly choked once again and serve them some fresh #### crow. Eat up boys and gals
44-6
 
Chachi said:
To be fair with my last post, I like McNabb and never really understood the level of criticism leveled his way, I think the Eagle fans/Philly media are the ones to blame here, not the national public/media.
funny, i think it is the exact opposite. Besides the 15-20 guys that booed the Eagles (not McNabb) at his draft, and the sports radio guy in Philly (and their fans/followers), most of the Eagles fans realize McNabb is not the anti-christ. I think the national media loves to blow it out of proportion that the Eagles fans hate McNabb, but these boneheads don't know a thing. Deion Sanders was always dumb as a rock, so when he becomes an analyst people start to beliueve what he says? Same with half of these NFL analysts
You don't spend much time in the eagles thread , do you? There's a ton of Eagles fans who bash McNabb every chance they get.I've seriously considered switching loyalties because of my fellow Eagles fans, but couldn't decide who else to root for.
:bag: There's actually a part of me that wishes that McNabb would leave so that we can go through the season with an average or below-average quarterback like 75% of the other teams in the league have to. It would be great having the idiot-McNabb bashers refer to the 5 of 8 championship games era as the 'good old days'.

As I've said all along, give me Brady, P. Manning, Brees, or Rothlisberger and I'll gladly part ways with McNabb. But I'm not willing to downgrade just because I'm angry that we've never had teh league's best team.

 
6 posts in a row?Overdoing it on the schadenfreude there Mustang Man? :bag:
Yeah I am over doing it. You know what I take a lot of bs being a Cowboys fan and Philly I hate the most. I really have no hate for Mcnabb I think he is a pretty damn good qb it is the fans. They deserve this, really they do. I am happy to be the one that looks like the bad guy and say what a lot of Dallas fans are thinking as they sit home happy as hell that Philly choked once again and serve them some fresh #### crow. Eat up boys and gals
44-6
LOFL NO RINGS, I could throw out a bunch of regular season blowouts as well. :thumbup: It is what it is and the Iggles just have to take it and eat it cause they choke when it matters most and I will keep ramming it down their throat.
 
Chachi said:
To be fair with my last post, I like McNabb and never really understood the level of criticism leveled his way, I think the Eagle fans/Philly media are the ones to blame here, not the national public/media.
funny, i think it is the exact opposite. Besides the 15-20 guys that booed the Eagles (not McNabb) at his draft, and the sports radio guy in Philly (and their fans/followers), most of the Eagles fans realize McNabb is not the anti-christ. I think the national media loves to blow it out of proportion that the Eagles fans hate McNabb, but these boneheads don't know a thing. Deion Sanders was always dumb as a rock, so when he becomes an analyst people start to beliueve what he says? Same with half of these NFL analysts
You don't spend much time in the eagles thread , do you? There's a ton of Eagles fans who bash McNabb every chance they get.I've seriously considered switching loyalties because of my fellow Eagles fans, but couldn't decide who else to root for.
:goodposting: There's actually a part of me that wishes that McNabb would leave so that we can go through the season with an average or below-average quarterback like 75% of the other teams in the league have to. It would be great having the idiot-McNabb bashers refer to the 5 of 8 championship games era as the 'good old days'.

As I've said all along, give me Brady, P. Manning, Brees, or Rothlisberger and I'll gladly part ways with McNabb. But I'm not willing to downgrade just because I'm angry that we've never had teh league's best team.
Agree with you man. On that note, I just wish people wouldn't lay the blame squarely on the QB. Theres so many ways to spin this loss, its unfortunate that the Phili fans/media choose to take aim at McNabb. Where has Westbrook been the last two games? Where was the defense? What happened to the Eagles vaunted Special Teams? With so many potential story lines, why cant they tell this story instead: McNabb accumulates 400+ yards and leads his team back from a three score deficit with some truly incredible throws (the bomb to Curtis stands out). How does the rest of the team react to this historic turnaround? They let the Cards march down the field on an eight minute drive for the go ahead TD. Still McNabb bounces back again, leads the team to midfield only for his WR to stumble on the decisive 4th and 10 pass (which hits him in the shoulder pads) that would have kept the drive alive. While thats ALSO an objective take on the game, the fans/media prefer to ignore the good and instead dwell on on the missed 3rd down throw to Baskett.

Anyway, the Kevin Kolb era will undoubtedly lead to a string of 6-10 seasons. Maybe that will wake up the bitter constituency within the fan base, but I doubt it.

 
From my perspective, Joe Buck and Troy Aikman threw McNabb under the bus the entire game. The average fan takes what these guys and their counterparts say like it is the Gospel.For example, on the Greg Lewis dropped pass, they said that it was a missed opportunity for McNabb because it was a bad throw. Incorrect AikBuck. McNabb put the ball over the outside shoulder in a spot where the defender could not get it. Great throw for McNabb, bad drop for Greg Lewis. :goodposting: for the Ambiguously Gay Duo of AikBuck.
I was thinking the same thing on that play. Ummm...Lewis dropped a perfectly executed pass. If he tried to hit him in stride instead of throwing to his back shoulder the CB would have broke it up.
 
97.4 passer rating. 375 yards. 3 Tds. 31 rushing yards.
You really are ridiculous, aren't you? It is NOT all about stats (and way to leave out McNabb's two turnovers :rolleyes: ). Consider this:QB A threw for 375 yards, threw 3 TD passes, and completed 60% of his passes. QB B threw for 255 yards, threw 1 TD pass, and completed 48% of his passes. If you looked at just the stats, you would say that QB A played better than QB B, but anyone who watched the games yesterday knows that QB B/Ben Roethlisberger played better than QB A/Donovan McNabb. But, talking to you about this is like talking to a wall, so keep on talking great about your QB who continually fails to make big plays in big games at the right times. :lmao:
 
97.4 passer rating. 375 yards. 3 Tds. 31 rushing yards.
You really are ridiculous, aren't you? It is NOT all about stats (and way to leave out McNabb's two turnovers :rolleyes: ). Consider this:

QB A threw for 375 yards, threw 3 TD passes, and completed 60% of his passes.

QB B threw for 255 yards, threw 1 TD pass, and completed 48% of his passes.

If you looked at just the stats, you would say that QB A played better than QB B, but anyone who watched the games yesterday knows that QB B/Ben Roethlisberger played better than QB A/Donovan McNabb.

But, talking to you about this is like talking to a wall, so keep on talking great about your QB who continually fails to make big plays in big games at the right times. :lmao:
So, McNabb's fumble on the blindside by A. Wilson was his fault, huh? Should we also blame the missed field goal, extra point, and out-of-bounds kickoff on McNabb? How about Fitzgerald's three touchdowns? Curtis' drop on 4th and ten? Get a clue, pal. McNabb didn't make 100% perfect throws, but he was one of the Eagles best players yesterday.

 
Yep, I am pretty sure that I never said that McNabb deserves the full blame for yesterday's loss, and neither did anyone else. There is plenty of blame to go around, and McNabb deserves his fair share. He played great in the 3rd quarter and beginning of the 4th quarter, but he was awful in the first half. Ask yourself: How many points did the Eagles leave on the field because of McNabb's poor play? Despite the poor play of the defense, they could have went into half time with the score pretty close, had McNabb been accurate at all on a bunch of throws he missed. Like I said, there is lots of blame to go around, and Akers, the defense, McNabb, etc. all deserve their fair share of it.

 
97.4 passer rating. 375 yards. 3 Tds. 31 rushing yards.
You really are ridiculous, aren't you? It is NOT all about stats (and way to leave out McNabb's two turnovers :blackdot: ). Consider this:QB A threw for 375 yards, threw 3 TD passes, and completed 60% of his passes. QB B threw for 255 yards, threw 1 TD pass, and completed 48% of his passes. If you looked at just the stats, you would say that QB A played better than QB B, but anyone who watched the games yesterday knows that QB B/Ben Roethlisberger played better than QB A/Donovan McNabb. But, talking to you about this is like talking to a wall, so keep on talking great about your QB who continually fails to make big plays in big games at the right times. :confused:
Could you imagine the ruckus if McNabb threw a ball over the middle at the end of the half without leaving enough time on the clock to spike the ball - so the FG team couldn't kick the ball before the half? Big Ben got a free pass there, eh? Imagine if the Steelers Defense gives up the go ahead score in the final minutes instead of Polamalu returning the decisive INT back for a TD?
 
I appreciate that many Eagles fans are rallying around their QB. This team is going to go down as Bills-lite. Good enough to contend but can't ever get over the hump. At least the Bills won their conference regularly.

I guess it depends on what you want out of your team. Eagles fans are always going to be watching someone else hoist trophies. They'll always have a decent/good/really good team, but this group isn't getting it done. They never have that special rally through the playoffs that ends with a title.

Personally, I never seem them particularly focused in the big games and the time management often has me second-guessing the geniuses on the sideline. Someone else always seems to have that killer instinct to put them away. Eagles fans will be able to look back at some really good performances and deep playoff runs...but they won't have any Super Bowl gear in their closets.

I can see arguments to be both happy and unsatisfied with that fate. Worse than many teams, never quite as good as others.

 
97.4 passer rating. 375 yards. 3 Tds. 31 rushing yards.
You really are ridiculous, aren't you? It is NOT all about stats (and way to leave out McNabb's two turnovers :blackdot: ). Consider this:QB A threw for 375 yards, threw 3 TD passes, and completed 60% of his passes. QB B threw for 255 yards, threw 1 TD pass, and completed 48% of his passes. If you looked at just the stats, you would say that QB A played better than QB B, but anyone who watched the games yesterday knows that QB B/Ben Roethlisberger played better than QB A/Donovan McNabb. But, talking to you about this is like talking to a wall, so keep on talking great about your QB who continually fails to make big plays in big games at the right times. :confused:
Could you imagine the ruckus if McNabb threw a ball over the middle at the end of the half without leaving enough time on the clock to spike the ball - so the FG team couldn't kick the ball before the half? Big Ben got a free pass there, eh? Imagine if the Steelers Defense gives up the go ahead score in the final minutes instead of Polamalu returning the decisive INT back for a TD?
Difference is, Pittsburgh Steelers have great fans and appreciate that they have one of teh league's top quarterbacks. They don't expect 100% perfection, even though no quarterback has ever achieved that.
 
97.4 passer rating. 375 yards. 3 Tds. 31 rushing yards.
You really are ridiculous, aren't you? It is NOT all about stats (and way to leave out McNabb's two turnovers :confused: ). Consider this:QB A threw for 375 yards, threw 3 TD passes, and completed 60% of his passes. QB B threw for 255 yards, threw 1 TD pass, and completed 48% of his passes. If you looked at just the stats, you would say that QB A played better than QB B, but anyone who watched the games yesterday knows that QB B/Ben Roethlisberger played better than QB A/Donovan McNabb. But, talking to you about this is like talking to a wall, so keep on talking great about your QB who continually fails to make big plays in big games at the right times. :lol:
Could you imagine the ruckus if McNabb threw a ball over the middle at the end of the half without leaving enough time on the clock to spike the ball - so the FG team couldn't kick the ball before the half? Big Ben got a free pass there, eh? Imagine if the Steelers Defense gives up the go ahead score in the final minutes instead of Polamalu returning the decisive INT back for a TD?
Difference is, Pittsburgh Steelers have great fans and appreciate that they have one of teh league's top quarterbacks. They don't expect 100% perfection, even though no quarterback has ever achieved that.
Thats all Im saying. :blackdot: BTW Im not an Eagle fan at all.
 
97.4 passer rating. 375 yards. 3 Tds. 31 rushing yards.
You really are ridiculous, aren't you? It is NOT all about stats (and way to leave out McNabb's two turnovers :blackdot: ). Consider this:QB A threw for 375 yards, threw 3 TD passes, and completed 60% of his passes. QB B threw for 255 yards, threw 1 TD pass, and completed 48% of his passes. If you looked at just the stats, you would say that QB A played better than QB B, but anyone who watched the games yesterday knows that QB B/Ben Roethlisberger played better than QB A/Donovan McNabb. But, talking to you about this is like talking to a wall, so keep on talking great about your QB who continually fails to make big plays in big games at the right times. :confused:
Could you imagine the ruckus if McNabb threw a ball over the middle at the end of the half without leaving enough time on the clock to spike the ball - so the FG team couldn't kick the ball before the half? Big Ben got a free pass there, eh? Imagine if the Steelers Defense gives up the go ahead score in the final minutes instead of Polamalu returning the decisive INT back for a TD?
Difference is, Pittsburgh Steelers have great fans and appreciate that they have one of teh league's top quarterbacks. They don't expect 100% perfection, even though no quarterback has ever achieved that.
Actually the difference is that their fans have seen that QB bring a trophy home already. The other difference is that he's still only in his 5th year with his prime left to go, not in his 10th and ready to start the decline.
 
97.4 passer rating. 375 yards. 3 Tds. 31 rushing yards.
You really are ridiculous, aren't you? It is NOT all about stats (and way to leave out McNabb's two turnovers :blackdot: ). Consider this:QB A threw for 375 yards, threw 3 TD passes, and completed 60% of his passes. QB B threw for 255 yards, threw 1 TD pass, and completed 48% of his passes. If you looked at just the stats, you would say that QB A played better than QB B, but anyone who watched the games yesterday knows that QB B/Ben Roethlisberger played better than QB A/Donovan McNabb. But, talking to you about this is like talking to a wall, so keep on talking great about your QB who continually fails to make big plays in big games at the right times. :confused:
Could you imagine the ruckus if McNabb threw a ball over the middle at the end of the half without leaving enough time on the clock to spike the ball - so the FG team couldn't kick the ball before the half? Big Ben got a free pass there, eh? Imagine if the Steelers Defense gives up the go ahead score in the final minutes instead of Polamalu returning the decisive INT back for a TD?
Difference is, Pittsburgh Steelers have great fans and appreciate that they have one of teh league's top quarterbacks. They don't expect 100% perfection, even though no quarterback has ever achieved that.
It's a little easier to "appreciate" the QB when he brings you a ring in the first two seasons of his career. If McNabb had won one already everything would be different. You think Gruden would have been allowed six mediocre years if not for the ring in year one? Fans appreciate titles. Roethlisberger already has one. McNabb has zero.
 
For those of you hammering Philly fans for not embracing McNabb, try watching a few more Philly games. Todays game was a microcosm of every game McNabb has played the last 5 years. First half you suck, second half youre brilliant.McNabb piles up some good stats but he is terrible if his team needs him in the last 5 minutes to win a game.
:hifive: This is the problem. McNabb did not singlehandedly lose yesterday. He got a ton of help from the defense, Akers, WRs dropping catchable balls, and a running game made stagnant from injury and age. Still, McNabb was playing in his 5th NFC Championship Game and the story has been very similar in all of them. He hasn't played terribly, just a few to many mistakes and bad throws to win. Pat Patriot is right when he says that if you need McNabb in the last five minutes to win, you've got trouble. He has never been good at that. Finally, McNabb (and really the Eagles as well) have the terrible tendancy to play really bad while they have a shot but then play really well once they have been eliminated (winning the last 3 games of 2007 after elimination, losing to the skins only to pound the Cowboys, etc.) Yesterday they waited until they were down 18 points (and thus had nothing to lose) to play.Still, to McNabb's defense, he put the Cardinals on their heels and got the lead. If the defense could get off the field Philly wins. So McNabb did have plenty of help.
 
McNabb made some good plays, but those were more than offset by his miserable play. That probably should have been a 10-point Eagles win. Because of his play it could have easily been a 14-point loss or worse and he's lucky it wasn't because of that blown call on a kickoff and an INT that was fumbled away.

Those third quarter stats are why so many Eagles fans are :thumbup: time after time about him. He has the capacity to be great when he turns it on, but the problem is that he's inconsistent, both in his passing and in his leadership and time and again he and his teams fall short.

What's amusing is that Philly fans, if they're honest with themselves, know they'd have to be very lucky to find someone even as good as McNabb, so they're stuck with him. The question is whether he's finally had his fill of them.

 
97.4 passer rating. 375 yards. 3 Tds. 31 rushing yards.
You really are ridiculous, aren't you? It is NOT all about stats (and way to leave out McNabb's two turnovers :thumbup: ). Consider this:QB A threw for 375 yards, threw 3 TD passes, and completed 60% of his passes. QB B threw for 255 yards, threw 1 TD pass, and completed 48% of his passes. If you looked at just the stats, you would say that QB A played better than QB B, but anyone who watched the games yesterday knows that QB B/Ben Roethlisberger played better than QB A/Donovan McNabb. But, talking to you about this is like talking to a wall, so keep on talking great about your QB who continually fails to make big plays in big games at the right times. :lmao:
Could you imagine the ruckus if McNabb threw a ball over the middle at the end of the half without leaving enough time on the clock to spike the ball - so the FG team couldn't kick the ball before the half? Big Ben got a free pass there, eh? Imagine if the Steelers Defense gives up the go ahead score in the final minutes instead of Polamalu returning the decisive INT back for a TD?
Difference is, Pittsburgh Steelers have great fans and appreciate that they have one of teh league's top quarterbacks. They don't expect 100% perfection, even though no quarterback has ever achieved that.
Actually the difference is that their fans have seen that QB bring a trophy home already. The other difference is that he's still only in his 5th year with his prime left to go, not in his 10th and ready to start the decline.
The irony is that both teams were in the exact same scenario - Philly and Pittsburgh were both clinging to narrow leads with less than five minutes left. The difference is that while Polamalu seals the deal for the Steelers with INT return for a TD to win the game, the Eagles DEF lets Arizona drive down the field for the winning score. Now If Brian Dawkins intercepts a Warner pass on that drive and returns it for a TD, McNabb is praised after the game for leading a great comeback.
 
For those of you hammering Philly fans for not embracing McNabb, try watching a few more Philly games. Todays game was a microcosm of every game McNabb has played the last 5 years. First half you suck, second half youre brilliant.McNabb piles up some good stats but he is terrible if his team needs him in the last 5 minutes to win a game.
Tony Romo Jr?
nah, McNabb always makes it further, with a lot less talent on the team
Romo has a couple of more years left then Mcnabb does. If he just gets one ring that will be better then Mcnabbs 5 NFC championshipe games 1-4 and 0-1 in the Bowl. Simple as that.
Romo needs to worry about winning a playoff game before u talk rings
 
I'm sorry....but it was absolutley ridiculous for Aikman to say that Donovan cost his team a TD by not putting the ball on the money when the reciever had "the whole field to run"

 
I'm sorry....but it was absolutley ridiculous for Aikman to say that Donovan cost his team a TD by not putting the ball on the money when the reciever had "the whole field to run"
I don't think Baskett was going to run for a TD on that play either, but McNabb certainly cost his team a TD on that drive by repeatedly missing open receivers, and arguably simply by missing Lewis on that deep pass down the left sideline that he threw to the wrong shoulder, forcing Lewis to slow down and turn around to try to catch. Lewis had a step on the defender when that pass was thrown.
 
97.4 passer rating. 375 yards. 3 Tds. 31 rushing yards.
You really are ridiculous, aren't you? It is NOT all about stats (and way to leave out McNabb's two turnovers :lmao: ). Consider this:QB A threw for 375 yards, threw 3 TD passes, and completed 60% of his passes. QB B threw for 255 yards, threw 1 TD pass, and completed 48% of his passes. If you looked at just the stats, you would say that QB A played better than QB B, but anyone who watched the games yesterday knows that QB B/Ben Roethlisberger played better than QB A/Donovan McNabb. But, talking to you about this is like talking to a wall, so keep on talking great about your QB who continually fails to make big plays in big games at the right times. :lol:
Could you imagine the ruckus if McNabb threw a ball over the middle at the end of the half without leaving enough time on the clock to spike the ball - so the FG team couldn't kick the ball before the half? Big Ben got a free pass there, eh? Imagine if the Steelers Defense gives up the go ahead score in the final minutes instead of Polamalu returning the decisive INT back for a TD?
Difference is, Pittsburgh Steelers have great fans and appreciate that they have one of teh league's top quarterbacks. They don't expect 100% perfection, even though no quarterback has ever achieved that.
It's a little easier to "appreciate" the QB when he brings you a ring in the first two seasons of his career. If McNabb had won one already everything would be different. You think Gruden would have been allowed six mediocre years if not for the ring in year one? Fans appreciate titles. Roethlisberger already has one. McNabb has zero.
I understand that. Believe me, I'd love to have a ring. Would you like to lookup Big Ben's stats from that game? Not everything is black and white.No one considers Trent Dilfer an all-time great. He has a ring. These quarterbacks have teammates, you know.
 
For those of you hammering Philly fans for not embracing McNabb, try watching a few more Philly games. Todays game was a microcosm of every game McNabb has played the last 5 years. First half you suck, second half youre brilliant.McNabb piles up some good stats but he is terrible if his team needs him in the last 5 minutes to win a game.
Tony Romo Jr?
nah, McNabb always makes it further, with a lot less talent on the team
Romo has a couple of more years left then Mcnabb does. If he just gets one ring that will be better then Mcnabbs 5 NFC championshipe games 1-4 and 0-1 in the Bowl. Simple as that.
Romo needs to worry about winning a playoff game before u talk rings
What ever way you want to look at it, Romo has his best days in front of him while Mcnabb is on the decline and will most likely never get it done. 10 playoff wins or zero playoff wins it is the SB wins that matter. Bottom line. They are tied and I would much rather have Romo in his prime then Mcnabb on his last legs and mentally destroyed by his zero rings in 5 tries in the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. It is what it is and all Romo has to do is have one magical run and win a Super Bowl and he surpasses Mcnabb and his 5 runs that he did not get it done.I guess the question Philly has to ask themselves is would you rather be a good team but never be the best or would you rather be the best 1 time and have a decade without a playoff win. I will take the 1 super bowl ever 10 years every time. Dallas has made the payoffs since they won there last SB and even had the #1 seed so it is not like they have been terrible all though for most of the years since 96 they have been bad but for me I want the SB cause other wise it means little, period.
 
97.4 passer rating. 375 yards. 3 Tds. 31 rushing yards.
You really are ridiculous, aren't you? It is NOT all about stats (and way to leave out McNabb's two turnovers :lmao: ). Consider this:QB A threw for 375 yards, threw 3 TD passes, and completed 60% of his passes. QB B threw for 255 yards, threw 1 TD pass, and completed 48% of his passes. If you looked at just the stats, you would say that QB A played better than QB B, but anyone who watched the games yesterday knows that QB B/Ben Roethlisberger played better than QB A/Donovan McNabb. But, talking to you about this is like talking to a wall, so keep on talking great about your QB who continually fails to make big plays in big games at the right times. :lol:
Could you imagine the ruckus if McNabb threw a ball over the middle at the end of the half without leaving enough time on the clock to spike the ball - so the FG team couldn't kick the ball before the half? Big Ben got a free pass there, eh? Imagine if the Steelers Defense gives up the go ahead score in the final minutes instead of Polamalu returning the decisive INT back for a TD?
No, BR didn't get a free pass, and that was a mistake, but you have to remember that as a Super Bowl-winning QB who has proven to be clutch over the years, Roethlisberger is usually given more leeway. That is what happens when you are a winner. On the flip side, McNabb has never quite been good enough to get it done when it matters the most, so that is why his mistakes are magnified. If McNabb had won a Super Bowl already, he would be given more leeway. To prove that even further, look at the treatment of Eli Manning. When the Giants lost in the playoffs a few years ago, he took a major beating from almost everyone, but after winning a Super Bowl last year, his poor playoff performance last week resulted in barely any criticism. Why? Because he has won a Super Bowl. Fair or not, that is the way it is. Until McNabb wins a Super Bowl, he and his fans will have to deal with the criticism. John Elway had to deal with it for almost his entire career, too.
 
For those of you hammering Philly fans for not embracing McNabb, try watching a few more Philly games. Todays game was a microcosm of every game McNabb has played the last 5 years. First half you suck, second half youre brilliant.McNabb piles up some good stats but he is terrible if his team needs him in the last 5 minutes to win a game.
Tony Romo Jr?
nah, McNabb always makes it further, with a lot less talent on the team
Romo has a couple of more years left then Mcnabb does. If he just gets one ring that will be better then Mcnabbs 5 NFC championshipe games 1-4 and 0-1 in the Bowl. Simple as that.
Romo needs to worry about winning a playoff game before u talk rings
What ever way you want to look at it, Romo has his best days in front of him while Mcnabb is on the decline and will most likely never get it done. 10 playoff wins or zero playoff wins it is the SB wins that matter. Bottom line. They are tied and I would much rather have Romo in his prime then Mcnabb on his last legs and mentally destroyed by his zero rings in 5 tries in the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. It is what it is and all Romo has to do is have one magical run and win a Super Bowl and he surpasses Mcnabb and his 5 runs that he did not get it done.I guess the question Philly has to ask themselves is would you rather be a good team but never be the best or would you rather be the best 1 time and have a decade without a playoff win. I will take the 1 super bowl ever 10 years every time. Dallas has made the payoffs since they won there last SB and even had the #1 seed so it is not like they have been terrible all though for most of the years since 96 they have been bad but for me I want the SB cause other wise it means little, period.
Isn't having a young quarterback who cruumbles under pressure wporse than having an old one who does? Tony Romo, with his 100+ passer rating in September and October and his horrible dec;line as the season grows on, is what your team's futuire looks like for many, many years. Good luck with that. Oh, and the rest of your team is getting old. Flozell Adams, T.O. etc. 44-6.
 
97.4 passer rating. 375 yards. 3 Tds. 31 rushing yards.If McNabb had a weakness today, it was his inability to cover Fitzgerald.
This guy gets it.. I really can't understand all of the McNabb bashing.. What about the brutal defense that the Eagles showed in the 1st half.. I'll be the 1st to admit that McNabb didn't look very good in the 1st half but jeez.. That defense was horrible as well.. Make somebody other than Fitz beat you..
 
For those of you hammering Philly fans for not embracing McNabb, try watching a few more Philly games. Todays game was a microcosm of every game McNabb has played the last 5 years. First half you suck, second half youre brilliant.McNabb piles up some good stats but he is terrible if his team needs him in the last 5 minutes to win a game.
Tony Romo Jr?
nah, McNabb always makes it further, with a lot less talent on the team
Romo has a couple of more years left then Mcnabb does. If he just gets one ring that will be better then Mcnabbs 5 NFC championshipe games 1-4 and 0-1 in the Bowl. Simple as that.
Romo needs to worry about winning a playoff game before u talk rings
What ever way you want to look at it, Romo has his best days in front of him while Mcnabb is on the decline and will most likely never get it done. 10 playoff wins or zero playoff wins it is the SB wins that matter. Bottom line. They are tied and I would much rather have Romo in his prime then Mcnabb on his last legs and mentally destroyed by his zero rings in 5 tries in the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. It is what it is and all Romo has to do is have one magical run and win a Super Bowl and he surpasses Mcnabb and his 5 runs that he did not get it done.I guess the question Philly has to ask themselves is would you rather be a good team but never be the best or would you rather be the best 1 time and have a decade without a playoff win. I will take the 1 super bowl ever 10 years every time. Dallas has made the payoffs since they won there last SB and even had the #1 seed so it is not like they have been terrible all though for most of the years since 96 they have been bad but for me I want the SB cause other wise it means little, period.
Isn't having a young quarterback who cruumbles under pressure wporse than having an old one who does? Tony Romo, with his 100+ passer rating in September and October and his horrible dec;line as the season grows on, is what your team's futuire looks like for many, many years. Good luck with that. Oh, and the rest of your team is getting old. Flozell Adams, T.O. etc. 44-6.
AHH it is nice to see the Eagles come back down to earth and reality and start throwing stones cause their glass house has been broke. NO RINGS HAVE FUN!! I like the Cowboys future much more then Philly. That team needs to be blown up, chokers I say chokers
 
Mustang Man said:
E-A-G-L-E-S said:
Mustang Man said:
gigantor said:
For those of you hammering Philly fans for not embracing McNabb, try watching a few more Philly games. Todays game was a microcosm of every game McNabb has played the last 5 years. First half you suck, second half youre brilliant.McNabb piles up some good stats but he is terrible if his team needs him in the last 5 minutes to win a game.
Tony Romo Jr?
nah, McNabb always makes it further, with a lot less talent on the team
Romo has a couple of more years left then Mcnabb does. If he just gets one ring that will be better then Mcnabbs 5 NFC championshipe games 1-4 and 0-1 in the Bowl. Simple as that.
Romo needs to worry about winning a playoff game before u talk rings
What ever way you want to look at it, Romo has his best days in front of him while Mcnabb is on the decline and will most likely never get it done. 10 playoff wins or zero playoff wins it is the SB wins that matter. Bottom line. They are tied and I would much rather have Romo in his prime then Mcnabb on his last legs and mentally destroyed by his zero rings in 5 tries in the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. It is what it is and all Romo has to do is have one magical run and win a Super Bowl and he surpasses Mcnabb and his 5 runs that he did not get it done.I guess the question Philly has to ask themselves is would you rather be a good team but never be the best or would you rather be the best 1 time and have a decade without a playoff win. I will take the 1 super bowl ever 10 years every time. Dallas has made the payoffs since they won there last SB and even had the #1 seed so it is not like they have been terrible all though for most of the years since 96 they have been bad but for me I want the SB cause other wise it means little, period.
You may be overstating this future of Romo's a tad. Romo is less than 3.5 years younger than McNabb and will turn 29 in a few months; McNabb just turned 32 in November. As for measuring QB success in championships, I suppose that's the logical crutch for someone whose favorite QB is winless in the playoffs and yet who wants to take potshots at a guy whose career playoff record is 9-6. This is a false measure, not only because it's convenient and not only because it attributes team success or failure to one person. It's false because it ignores what each QB's potential is, and what each QB's flaws are. If a QB has the opportunity to win a championship and through his poor play chokes it away, success later down the line may help you to ignore that earlier failure but it doesn't erase it. Funny enough, you're making these arguments as if Romo's later championships are assured, which seems awfully presumptuous. McNabb is rightfully criticized because he's often come up small late in the playoffs when his team most needed him. For three quarters yesterday, he did it again. It's not all on him, but I do believe that had he played a solid game for four quarters his team wins pretty handily. Romo too has come up small at critical times both late in the season and in the playoffs, and the odd thing to me about you defending Romo and hammering McNabb is that Romo has done less with more talent around him than McNabb has typically had the luxury of playing with.
 
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Mustang Man said:
JuniorNB said:
Mustang Man said:
E-A-G-L-E-S said:
Mustang Man said:
gigantor said:
For those of you hammering Philly fans for not embracing McNabb, try watching a few more Philly games. Todays game was a microcosm of every game McNabb has played the last 5 years. First half you suck, second half youre brilliant.McNabb piles up some good stats but he is terrible if his team needs him in the last 5 minutes to win a game.
Tony Romo Jr?
nah, McNabb always makes it further, with a lot less talent on the team
Romo has a couple of more years left then Mcnabb does. If he just gets one ring that will be better then Mcnabbs 5 NFC championshipe games 1-4 and 0-1 in the Bowl. Simple as that.
Romo needs to worry about winning a playoff game before u talk rings
What ever way you want to look at it, Romo has his best days in front of him while Mcnabb is on the decline and will most likely never get it done. 10 playoff wins or zero playoff wins it is the SB wins that matter. Bottom line. They are tied and I would much rather have Romo in his prime then Mcnabb on his last legs and mentally destroyed by his zero rings in 5 tries in the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. It is what it is and all Romo has to do is have one magical run and win a Super Bowl and he surpasses Mcnabb and his 5 runs that he did not get it done.I guess the question Philly has to ask themselves is would you rather be a good team but never be the best or would you rather be the best 1 time and have a decade without a playoff win. I will take the 1 super bowl ever 10 years every time. Dallas has made the payoffs since they won there last SB and even had the #1 seed so it is not like they have been terrible all though for most of the years since 96 they have been bad but for me I want the SB cause other wise it means little, period.
Isn't having a young quarterback who cruumbles under pressure wporse than having an old one who does? Tony Romo, with his 100+ passer rating in September and October and his horrible dec;line as the season grows on, is what your team's futuire looks like for many, many years. Good luck with that. Oh, and the rest of your team is getting old. Flozell Adams, T.O. etc. 44-6.
AHH it is nice to see the Eagles come back down to earth and reality and start throwing stones cause their glass house has been broke. NO RINGS HAVE FUN!! I like the Cowboys future much more then Philly. That team needs to be blown up, chokers I say chokers
Yeah, Dallas sure took some steps in the right direction by acquiring Roy Williams to succeed T.O. :thumbup: And Romo's ability to win the big one against Philly in week 17 was stellar. Future's looking bright. :lol: 44-6
 
Mustang Man said:
E-A-G-L-E-S said:
Mustang Man said:
gigantor said:
For those of you hammering Philly fans for not embracing McNabb, try watching a few more Philly games. Todays game was a microcosm of every game McNabb has played the last 5 years. First half you suck, second half youre brilliant.McNabb piles up some good stats but he is terrible if his team needs him in the last 5 minutes to win a game.
Tony Romo Jr?
nah, McNabb always makes it further, with a lot less talent on the team
Romo has a couple of more years left then Mcnabb does. If he just gets one ring that will be better then Mcnabbs 5 NFC championshipe games 1-4 and 0-1 in the Bowl. Simple as that.
Romo needs to worry about winning a playoff game before u talk rings
What ever way you want to look at it, Romo has his best days in front of him while Mcnabb is on the decline and will most likely never get it done. 10 playoff wins or zero playoff wins it is the SB wins that matter. Bottom line. They are tied and I would much rather have Romo in his prime then Mcnabb on his last legs and mentally destroyed by his zero rings in 5 tries in the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. It is what it is and all Romo has to do is have one magical run and win a Super Bowl and he surpasses Mcnabb and his 5 runs that he did not get it done.I guess the question Philly has to ask themselves is would you rather be a good team but never be the best or would you rather be the best 1 time and have a decade without a playoff win. I will take the 1 super bowl ever 10 years every time. Dallas has made the payoffs since they won there last SB and even had the #1 seed so it is not like they have been terrible all though for most of the years since 96 they have been bad but for me I want the SB cause other wise it means little, period.
You may be overstating this future of Romo's a tad. Romo is less than 3.5 years younger than McNabb and will turn 29 in a few months; McNabb just turned 32 in November. As for measuring QB success in championships, I suppose that's the logical crutch for someone whose favorite QB is winless in the playoffs and yet who wants to take potshots at a guy whose career playoff record is 9-6. This is a false measure, not only because it's convenient and not only because it attributes team success or failure to one person. It's false because it ignores what each QB's potential is, and what each QB's flaws are. If a QB has the opportunity to win a championship and through his poor play chokes it away, success later down the line may help you to ignore that earlier failure but it doesn't erase it. Funny enough, you're making these arguments as if Romo's later championships are assured, which seems awfully presumptuous. McNabb is rightfully criticized because he's often come up small late in the playoffs when his team most needed him. For three quarters yesterday, he did it again. It's not all on him, but I do believe that had he played a solid game for four quarters his team wins pretty handily. Romo too has come up small at critical times both late in the season and in the playoffs, and the odd thing to me about you defending Romo and hammering McNabb is that Romo has done less with more talent around him than McNabb has typically had the luxury of playing with.
Never assured a championship for Romo all I am saying is I would rather Have Romo at this point. I will take them 3.5 years and bank them. I would not have gave a crap nor would I have hung my hat on Aikmen had he had 9 playoff wins and no SB wins to me it is useless if you do not get the ring. That is what I root for Super Bowl wins not for some moral victories (playoff wins). Ask any player out there what they want 5 good years or 1 SB win. I think you could ask any fan as well. I am talking about franchises here and Dallas is a winning super Bowl franchise while Philly not so much. If you want to hinge all of Dallas's losses in the last 3 years on Romo go for it. I know better he was the reason for Dallas getting to the playoffs not alone but a big part. Same can be said for Mcnabb. Time will tll for Romo and he has it on his side compared to Mcnabb.
 
Mustang Man said:
E-A-G-L-E-S said:
Mustang Man said:
gigantor said:
For those of you hammering Philly fans for not embracing McNabb, try watching a few more Philly games. Todays game was a microcosm of every game McNabb has played the last 5 years. First half you suck, second half youre brilliant.McNabb piles up some good stats but he is terrible if his team needs him in the last 5 minutes to win a game.
Tony Romo Jr?
nah, McNabb always makes it further, with a lot less talent on the team
Romo has a couple of more years left then Mcnabb does. If he just gets one ring that will be better then Mcnabbs 5 NFC championshipe games 1-4 and 0-1 in the Bowl. Simple as that.
Romo needs to worry about winning a playoff game before u talk rings
What ever way you want to look at it, Romo has his best days in front of him while Mcnabb is on the decline and will most likely never get it done. 10 playoff wins or zero playoff wins it is the SB wins that matter. Bottom line. They are tied and I would much rather have Romo in his prime then Mcnabb on his last legs and mentally destroyed by his zero rings in 5 tries in the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. It is what it is and all Romo has to do is have one magical run and win a Super Bowl and he surpasses Mcnabb and his 5 runs that he did not get it done.I guess the question Philly has to ask themselves is would you rather be a good team but never be the best or would you rather be the best 1 time and have a decade without a playoff win. I will take the 1 super bowl ever 10 years every time. Dallas has made the payoffs since they won there last SB and even had the #1 seed so it is not like they have been terrible all though for most of the years since 96 they have been bad but for me I want the SB cause other wise it means little, period.
You may be overstating this future of Romo's a tad. Romo is less than 3.5 years younger than McNabb and will turn 29 in a few months; McNabb just turned 32 in November. As for measuring QB success in championships, I suppose that's the logical crutch for someone whose favorite QB is winless in the playoffs and yet who wants to take potshots at a guy whose career playoff record is 9-6. This is a false measure, not only because it's convenient and not only because it attributes team success or failure to one person. It's false because it ignores what each QB's potential is, and what each QB's flaws are. If a QB has the opportunity to win a championship and through his poor play chokes it away, success later down the line may help you to ignore that earlier failure but it doesn't erase it. Funny enough, you're making these arguments as if Romo's later championships are assured, which seems awfully presumptuous. McNabb is rightfully criticized because he's often come up small late in the playoffs when his team most needed him. For three quarters yesterday, he did it again. It's not all on him, but I do believe that had he played a solid game for four quarters his team wins pretty handily. Romo too has come up small at critical times both late in the season and in the playoffs, and the odd thing to me about you defending Romo and hammering McNabb is that Romo has done less with more talent around him than McNabb has typically had the luxury of playing with.
Good posting. Bashing McNabb by praising Romo is some seriously twisted logic. Sure McNabb hasn't delivered a title. But Romo has hurt his team's chances more than McNabb and has had considerably less opportunities to do so.Vacationing in Mexico, dropping the snap in Seattle ....We get it dude. You like the Cowboys, you're happy the Eagles lost. But given the collosal underachievement that was the Dallas Cowboys 2008 season I'd think you quietly take this Eagles loss, derive enjoyment from it, and keep your yap shut. I know if I'm a Cowboys fan the last thing I'm doing at this point is shining any light on the season my team just recorded. And before you bash Philly in your rebuttal, understand I hate the Eagles too so you won't be hurting my feelings.
 
For the record, I was just teasing Pat Patriot about his "Tony Romo is the worst PTPer ever" thread in the FFA. Didn't mean to start a holy war.

 
Once again the QB gets too much credit for a win and too much blame for a loss

The “vaunted” Eagle defense gave up 32 points, surrendering the lead on a 14 play 72 yard 8 minute touchdown scoring drive late in the 4th quarter.

Yet somehow its all “McChokes” fault they lost

 
I'm a huge McNabb supporter, but I have to laugh at those who are congratulating him. Do you realize how many points we left on the table because of his errant throws in the 1st half? Sure, the defense couldn't stop the Cards and that's on them. But to say McNabb didn't play his part just isn't seeing the forest for the trees.Either way, I hope he and Reid are both back for at least one more go around. Although with at least one new tackle, Dawkins a year older, etc...I'm not sure we didn't just blow our last and best shot at a title.
:rolleyes: The defense gave up 32 points, and Larry Fitz flat out embarrassed the secondary yesterday. But I'm not sure what game the McNabb praisers were watching. He was brutal in the first half and missed open receivers left and right. Aiken was dead on with his analysis of the ball he threw at Baskett's feet. If he hits him in stride, that's an easy 50 yards and maybe a touchdown. McNabb played a nice 3rd quarter. But once again, when the game was on the line, he came up small. That last series was just ugly.The bottom line is, McNabb is a good QB who will win you plenty of games during the season. But the guy is simply unable to put a team on his back and make the BIG drive to win a BIG game. All of the great QBs have shown this ability, from Elway to Manning to Brady. Have you ever noticed how TV broadcasts NEVER post McNabb's "come from behind victories"? Because he doesn't have any. He forgets how to quarterback when there's under 3 minutes to play in a crucial game.I will disagree with the last part of this post however. I'm looking for a change next season. I want to see what the kid can do.
 
Once again the QB gets too much credit for a win and too much blame for a lossThe “vaunted” Eagle defense gave up 32 points, surrendering the lead on a 14 play 72 yard 8 minute touchdown scoring drive late in the 4th quarter. Yet somehow its all “McChokes” fault they lost
:rolleyes: And Mcnabb procedes to march them back down the field to have it end when Curtis drps a perfectly thrown 4th and 10 pass. If McNabb weren't such a choker, he'd have been a team-leader and demanded that Reid let him take the field as a defender to stop the Cradinals drive and he would have caught his own pass at teh end.
 
Once again the QB gets too much credit for a win and too much blame for a lossThe “vaunted” Eagle defense gave up 32 points, surrendering the lead on a 14 play 72 yard 8 minute touchdown scoring drive late in the 4th quarter. Yet somehow its all “McChokes” fault they lost
:goodposting: And Mcnabb procedes to march them back down the field to have it end when Curtis drps a perfectly thrown 4th and 10 pass. If McNabb weren't such a choker, he'd have been a team-leader and demanded that Reid let him take the field as a defender to stop the Cradinals drive and he would have caught his own pass at teh end.
Sorry, that was far from a perfectly thrown pass. And they shouldn't have been in a 4th and 10 situation to begin with. I love how everyone ultimately blames McNabb's inability to win a Superbowl on the inadequacies of his receivers. I'm not a McNabb hater by any means, but 5 NFC championship appearances and NO championships? At some point... some blame has to fall on his shoulders.
 
I'm a huge McNabb supporter, but I have to laugh at those who are congratulating him. Do you realize how many points we left on the table because of his errant throws in the 1st half? Sure, the defense couldn't stop the Cards and that's on them. But to say McNabb didn't play his part just isn't seeing the forest for the trees.

Either way, I hope he and Reid are both back for at least one more go around. Although with at least one new tackle, Dawkins a year older, etc...I'm not sure we didn't just blow our last and best shot at a title.
:goodposting: The defense gave up 32 points, and Larry Fitz flat out embarrassed the secondary yesterday. But I'm not sure what game the McNabb praisers were watching. He was brutal in the first half and missed open receivers left and right. Aiken was dead on with his analysis of the ball he threw at Baskett's feet. If he hits him in stride, that's an easy 50 yards and maybe a touchdown. McNabb played a nice 3rd quarter. But once again, when the game was on the line, he came up small. That last series was just ugly.

The bottom line is, McNabb is a good QB who will win you plenty of games during the season. But the guy is simply unable to put a team on his back and make the BIG drive to win a BIG game. All of the great QBs have shown this ability, from Elway to Manning to Brady. Have you ever noticed how TV broadcasts NEVER post McNabb's "come from behind victories"? Because he doesn't have any. He forgets how to quarterback when there's under 3 minutes to play in a crucial game.

I will disagree with the last part of this post however. I'm looking for a change next season. I want to see what the kid can do.
:lmao: Despite no help from Westbrook or the Kicking game, he scored three TD's in the final 20 minutes with some unbelievable throws to bring the Eagles back. Them after the defense relinquished the lead, he again led the team down the field and threw a beautiful ball on 4th and 10 only for the receiver to drop it. How is that not "putting the team on his back?"
 
Once again the QB gets too much credit for a win and too much blame for a loss

The “vaunted” Eagle defense gave up 32 points, surrendering the lead on a 14 play 72 yard 8 minute touchdown scoring drive late in the 4th quarter.

Yet somehow its all “McChokes” fault they lost
:goodposting: And Mcnabb procedes to march them back down the field to have it end when Curtis drps a perfectly thrown 4th and 10 pass.

If McNabb weren't such a choker, he'd have been a team-leader and demanded that Reid let him take the field as a defender to stop the Cradinals drive and he would have caught his own pass at teh end.
Sorry, that was far from a perfectly thrown pass.
No, I'm sorry. When the pass actually hits the receiver, the quarterback has done his job.
 
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Once again the QB gets too much credit for a win and too much blame for a loss

The “vaunted” Eagle defense gave up 32 points, surrendering the lead on a 14 play 72 yard 8 minute touchdown scoring drive late in the 4th quarter.

Yet somehow its all “McChokes” fault they lost
:goodposting: And Mcnabb procedes to march them back down the field to have it end when Curtis drps a perfectly thrown 4th and 10 pass.

If McNabb weren't such a choker, he'd have been a team-leader and demanded that Reid let him take the field as a defender to stop the Cradinals drive and he would have caught his own pass at teh end.
Sorry, that was far from a perfectly thrown pass.
No, I'm sorry. When the pass actually hits the defender, the quarterback has done his job.
Wat?
 
Once again the QB gets too much credit for a win and too much blame for a loss

The “vaunted” Eagle defense gave up 32 points, surrendering the lead on a 14 play 72 yard 8 minute touchdown scoring drive late in the 4th quarter.

Yet somehow its all “McChokes” fault they lost
:goodposting: And Mcnabb procedes to march them back down the field to have it end when Curtis drps a perfectly thrown 4th and 10 pass.

If McNabb weren't such a choker, he'd have been a team-leader and demanded that Reid let him take the field as a defender to stop the Cradinals drive and he would have caught his own pass at teh end.
Sorry, that was far from a perfectly thrown pass.
No, I'm sorry. When the pass actually hits the defender, the quarterback has done his job.
Wat?
fixed
 

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