Don't you guys think you should wait on saying AP a stud? (1 Viewer)

[bad-golfer]

Now i know i'll get flamed for this and could be wrong but how come all i read is AP AD 'o he's a top 5 rb now' or 'he's a stud now'

here are some of my concerns bout AP or AD what ever ya call him

1 He played 1 game vs proble 1 of the worst teams in the n.f.l

2 chester got hurt and will be back soon ,once he does come back it's rbbc for the most part,can't see the vikes sitting chester he did have 1,200 + rushing last yr . kind of hard to just leave the guy on the bench

3 Tarvaris Jackson won't scare any team in the n.f.l and once teams start playing 8 men in the box it ant easy running.(vikes do have a great o line)

4 No big play wr's in min teams don't have to leave a safeties on wr's leaveing them free to play the run

5 AP or AD has had major injury's in the past and that is a big concern

now haveing said all this i do think the guy will be a great player , but i'am reading all the crazy talk and how people are tradeing prove studs for him .

Lets see what he does when he plays a real d and in 6 weeks if he's still playing great then yes he's a stud .but as of now he's still in rbbc on a team with no passing game

flame away

 

[BroadwayG]

Kids, this is why you should pay attention in your spelling and grammar classes.

He may have a great point, but I just cannot take him seriously.

 

[gianmarco]

Now i know i'll get flamed for this and could be wrong but how come all i read is AP AD 'o he's a top 5 rb now' or 'he's a stud now'here are some of my concerns bout AP or AD what ever ya call him1 He played 1 game vs proble 1 of the worst teams in the n.f.l2 chester got hurt and will be back soon ,once he does come back it's rbbc for the most part,can't see the vikes sitting chester he did have 1,200 + rushing last yr . kind of hard to just leave the guy on the bench3 Tarvaris Jackson won't scare any team in the n.f.l and once teams start playing 8 men in the box it ant easy running.(vikes do have a great o line)4 No big play wr's in min teams don't have to leave a safeties on wr's leaveing them free to play the run5 AP or AD has had major injury's in the past and that is a big concern now haveing said all this i do think the guy will be a great player , but i'am reading all the crazy talk and how people are tradeing prove studs for him .Lets see what he does when he plays a real d and in 6 weeks if he's still playing great then yes he's a stud .but as of now he's still in rbbc on a team with no passing gameflame away

The problem with this is anyone can wait 6 weeks to see what he does and proclaim him a stud if he delivers. If you REACT to things in fantasy football, you will always be one step behind. This is especially true in dynasty leagues. So if you wait 6 weeks and he does blow up as many are expecting, you've now lost any chance to get him. It's the ones that can see the talent he has, evaluate the situation, and gamble on the fact that he has a good chance of being that stud that will succeed or fail. Or, you can just wait and watch from the sidelines and watch the people with AP either boom or bust.

 

[PahtyTom]

Now i know i'll get flamed for this and could be wrong but how come all i read is AP AD 'o he's a top 5 rb now' or 'he's a stud now'here are some of my concerns bout AP or AD what ever ya call him1 He played 1 game vs proble 1 of the worst teams in the n.f.l2 chester got hurt and will be back soon ,once he does come back it's rbbc for the most part,can't see the vikes sitting chester he did have 1,200 + rushing last yr . kind of hard to just leave the guy on the bench3 Tarvaris Jackson won't scare any team in the n.f.l and once teams start playing 8 men in the box it ant easy running.(vikes do have a great o line)4 No big play wr's in min teams don't have to leave a safeties on wr's leaveing them free to play the run5 AP or AD has had major injury's in the past and that is a big concern now haveing said all this i do think the guy will be a great player , but i'am reading all the crazy talk and how people are tradeing prove studs for him .Lets see what he does when he plays a real d and in 6 weeks if he's still playing great then yes he's a stud .but as of now he's still in rbbc on a team with no passing gameflame away

The problem with this is anyone can wait 6 weeks to see what he does and proclaim him a stud if he delivers. If you REACT to things in fantasy football, you will always be one step behind. This is especially true in dynasty leagues. So if you wait 6 weeks and he does blow up as many are expecting, you've now lost any chance to get him. It's the ones that can see the talent he has, evaluate the situation, and gamble on the fact that he has a good chance of being that stud that will succeed or fail. Or, you can just wait and watch from the sidelines and watch the people with AP either boom or bust.

GREAT post.

 

[CrossEyed]

Kids, this is why you should pay attention in your spelling and grammar classes.He may have a great point, but I just cannot take him seriously.

But he spelled Tarvaris correctly.

 

[BroadwayG]

Kids, this is why you should pay attention in your spelling and grammar classes.He may have a great point, but I just cannot take him seriously.

But he spelled Tarvaris correctly.

Since it was capitalized, I'm assuming a cut/paste job.

 

[bad-golfer]

Kids, this is why you should pay attention in your spelling and grammar classes.He may have a great point, but I just cannot take him seriously.

Ok so my spelling and grammar is not goodBut i think i make some good points

 

[Sheriff66]

He has a lot of wear on those tires already, and a history of injury, I wouldn't call him a stud until he plays all 16 games and dominates someone other than ATL

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I think he is a stud right now.

 

[bad-golfer]

He has a lot of wear on those tires already, and a history of injury, I would call him a stud until he plays all 16 games and dominates someone other than ATL

Wow some one not on AP or AD's jockI just don't see how people can trade prove player that HAVE DONT IT FOR YEARS for a guy that did it 1 game. And is in a rbbc and plays on a bad offense

 

[BILLY_THE_BULL]

so you wont trade me LT2 for him?

 

[Sheriff66]

He has a lot of wear on those tires already, and a history of injury, I would call him a stud until he plays all 16 games and dominates someone other than ATL

Wow some one not on AP or AD's jockI just don't see how people can trade prove player that HAVE DONT IT FOR YEARS for a guy that did it 1 game. And is in a rbbc and plays on a bad offense

I meant to say wouldn't call him one, he could become a stud, but let's see him play more than one game in the NFL before crowning his a##

 

[bad-golfer]

so you wont trade me LT2 for him?

You guy's have yet to reply to one of my reason's why ??

 

[kensat30]

Kids, this is why you should pay attention in your spelling and grammar classes.He may have a great point, but I just cannot take him seriously.

Ok so my spelling and grammar is not goodBut i think i make some good points

You can't take someone seriously if they can't even write a sentence. Sorry guy.

 

[bad-golfer]

He has a lot of wear on those tires already, and a history of injury, I would call him a stud until he plays all 16 games and dominates someone other than ATL

Wow some one not on AP or AD's jockI just don't see how people can trade prove player that HAVE DONT IT FOR YEARS for a guy that did it 1 game. And is in a rbbc and plays on a bad offense

I meant to say wouldn't call him one, he could become a stud, but let's see him play more than one game in the NFL before crowning his a##

Thats what i said also,and just said the fact's causs he's on a bad offense.Yet my spelling is the only come back thay have

 

[BILLY_THE_BULL]

Dynasty, Re-Draft or Keeper league? How many running backs do you have to start? There are so many questions that need to be answered before we can answer your question.

 

[The Shizzle]

@ n.f.l

 

[Debeucci]

Kids, this is why you should pay attention in your spelling and grammar classes.He may have a great point, but I just cannot take him seriously.

Ok so my spelling and grammar is not goodBut i think i make some good points

You can't take someone seriously if they can't even write a sentence. Sorry guy.

Reminds me of a few years back when Quentin Griffon absolutely roasted the opossing team in week 1. Everyone went nuts about him...And then...that was it. He pooped a big one for the rest of the season and is out of fooseball now.

 

[bad-golfer]

Dynasty, Re-Draft or Keeper league? How many running backs do you have to start? There are so many questions that need to be answered before we can answer your question.

I'am just saying let's give it some time before we call him a STUD and the trades i'am seeing for this guy is crazy

 

[mrreid]

Kids, this is why you should pay attention in your spelling and grammar classes.He may have a great point, but I just cannot take him seriously.

Ok so my spelling and grammar is not goodBut i think i make some good points

You can't take someone seriously if they can't even write a sentence. Sorry guy.

Reminds me of a few years back when Quentin Griffon absolutely roasted the opossing team in week 1. Everyone went nuts about him...And then...that was it. He pooped a big one for the rest of the season and is out of fooseball now.

im in a 2 player keeper league 1 point for every 2 rec and someone offered me s.smith and m.barber for him i dont know what to do

 

[Skinsfansince72]

No.

 

[bad-golfer]

Kids, this is why you should pay attention in your spelling and grammar classes.He may have a great point, but I just cannot take him seriously.

Ok so my spelling and grammar is not goodBut i think i make some good points

You can't take someone seriously if they can't even write a sentence. Sorry guy.

Reminds me of a few years back when Quentin Griffon absolutely roasted the opossing team in week 1. Everyone went nuts about him...And then...that was it. He pooped a big one for the rest of the season and is out of fooseball now.

LOL ya i think he went to college at Oklahoma also

 

[Sheriff66]

He has a lot of wear on those tires already, and a history of injury, I would call him a stud until he plays all 16 games and dominates someone other than ATL

Wow some one not on AP or AD's jockI just don't see how people can trade prove player that HAVE DONT IT FOR YEARS for a guy that did it 1 game. And is in a rbbc and plays on a bad offense

I meant to say wouldn't call him one, he could become a stud, but let's see him play more than one game in the NFL before crowning his a##

Thats what i said also,and just said the fact's causs he's on a bad offense.Yet my spelling is the only come back thay have

Got ya...

 

[bad-golfer]

Funny how no one has replyed to any of my reasons why i have some concerns bout AP ??

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I need to save this quote because I've said it before then lost it:

Adrian Peterson is one of the most gifted runningbacks to come to the NFL in the past 25 years. Only Bush, Sanders, and Bo Jackson had more to offer athletically than AP. He is Eric Dickerson only much faster. He runs upright, downhill, but can and will juke defenders. He was the most highly recruited player in recent NCAA history and a Miami Florida coach got into a fistfight with another coach at A.P.'s HS in Texas for his attention.

His only drawback and the reason he wasn't the first overall pick is that he has the penchant to get hurt. If he stays healthy in the NFL, he will be the #1 RB in the league by 2009 (LT2 is pretty incredible). There is no doubt in my mind.

Sincerely,

(Not a Vikings fan)

 

[NoFBinLA]

Now i know i'll get flamed for this and could be wrong but how come all i read is AP AD 'o he's a top 5 rb now' or 'he's a stud now'

here are some of my concerns bout AP or AD what ever ya call him

1 He played 1 game vs proble 1 of the worst teams in the n.f.l Just as it's too early to call AP/AD/ADP/APD a stud after one game, you can't throw the ATL run D under a bus. They may suck. They may rebound.

2 chester got hurt and will be back soon ,once he does come back it's rbbc for the most part,can't see the vikes sitting chester he did have 1,200 + rushing last yr . kind of hard to just leave the guy on the bench I think you're right here - there is a very strong chance that no mnatter what Peterson does, RBBC will impact his numbers this year. He's a home run threat whenever he touches the ball though and that makes him a strong candidate for a flex/#2 or bye week filler.

3 Tarvaris Jackson won't scare any team in the n.f.l and once teams start playing 8 men in the box it ant easy running.(vikes do have a great o line) Good point. Still a good player at RB can get good numbners on a team that cannot pass.

4 No big play wr's in min teams don't have to leave a safeties on wr's leaveing them free to play the run. see my response for 3

5 AP or AD has had major injury's in the past and that is a big concern While perhaps a worry, I give the guy the benefit of the doubt - he hasn;t gotten hurt yet this year and frankly, he tried to come back from his shoulder injury too early in college (IIRC) and that shows some gnads. Big points for that.

now haveing said all this i do think the guy will be a great player , but i'am reading all the crazy talk and how people are tradeing prove studs for him .

Depends on the stud and format, but right now, a proven stud does seem alot to pay for him. All depends on what depth you have though. LJ is a proven stud - if he keeps stinking up the join, one could make the arguement that acquiring AP and dumpin LJ might be a smart move.

Lets see what he does when he plays a real d and in 6 weeks if he's still playing great then yes he's a stud .but as of now he's still in rbbc on a team with no passing game

flame away

No Flames. Grammer/spelling aside some good points. My responses in bold. As you can see, I don't totally disagree but I do think that despite RBBC he can put up very good FF numbers.

 

[bad-golfer]

Now i know i'll get flamed for this and could be wrong but how come all i read is AP AD 'o he's a top 5 rb now' or 'he's a stud now'

here are some of my concerns bout AP or AD what ever ya call him

1 He played 1 game vs proble 1 of the worst teams in the n.f.l Just as it's too early to call AP/AD/ADP/APD a stud after one game, you can't throw the ATL run D under a bus. They may suck. They may rebound.

2 chester got hurt and will be back soon ,once he does come back it's rbbc for the most part,can't see the vikes sitting chester he did have 1,200 + rushing last yr . kind of hard to just leave the guy on the bench I think you're right here - there is a very strong chance that no mnatter what Peterson does, RBBC will impact his numbers this year. He's a home run threat whenever he touches the ball though and that makes him a strong candidate for a flex/#2 or bye week filler.

3 Tarvaris Jackson won't scare any team in the n.f.l and once teams start playing 8 men in the box it ant easy running.(vikes do have a great o line) Good point. Still a good player at RB can get good numbners on a team that cannot pass.

4 No big play wr's in min teams don't have to leave a safeties on wr's leaveing them free to play the run. see my response for 3

5 AP or AD has had major injury's in the past and that is a big concern While perhaps a worry, I give the guy the benefit of the doubt - he hasn;t gotten hurt yet this year and frankly, he tried to come back from his shoulder injury too early in college (IIRC) and that shows some gnads. Big points for that.

now haveing said all this i do think the guy will be a great player , but i'am reading all the crazy talk and how people are tradeing prove studs for him .

Depends on the stud and format, but right now, a proven stud does seem alot to pay for him. All depends on what depth you have though. LJ is a proven stud - if he keeps stinking up the join, one could make the arguement that acquiring AP and dumpin LJ might be a smart move.

Lets see what he does when he plays a real d and in 6 weeks if he's still playing great then yes he's a stud .but as of now he's still in rbbc on a team with no passing game

flame away

No Flames. Grammer/spelling aside some good points. My responses in bold. As you can see, I don't totally disagree but I do think that despite RBBC he can put up very good FF numbers.

Thank you for the nice reply

 

[NoFBinLA]

Thank you for the nice reply

No problem. I really like Peterson this year and beyond, but looking at that lack-of-passing offence worries me a bit. Thing is, even if they split the carries, CT and AP will get plenty at least early in a game, if just to grind the clock.If CT stays out too long, there is always the chance Peterson does well enough to secure the lion's share of carries. I think he's probably a real nice value in redrafts leagues where he got picked up 3/4 onward.FWIW I just activated him off the DS on a Dynasty team - that should tell you I believe in hom quite a bit. However I have LT2 as my #1, so I have some leeway to roll the dice. Still I think he's a safe bet.

 

[Phurfur]

Now i know i'll get flamed for this and could be wrong but how come all i read is AP AD 'o he's a top 5 rb now' or 'he's a stud now'

here are some of my concerns bout AP or AD what ever ya call him

1 He played 1 game vs proble 1 of the worst teams in the n.f.l

2 chester got hurt and will be back soon ,once he does come back it's rbbc for the most part,can't see the vikes sitting chester he did have 1,200 + rushing last yr . kind of hard to just leave the guy on the bench

3 Tarvaris Jackson won't scare any team in the n.f.l and once teams start playing 8 men in the box it ant easy running.(vikes do have a great o line)

4 No big play wr's in min teams don't have to leave a safeties on wr's leaveing them free to play the run

5 AP or AD has had major injury's in the past and that is a big concern

now haveing said all this i do think the guy will be a great player , but i'am reading all the crazy talk and how people are tradeing prove studs for him .

Lets see what he does when he plays a real d and in 6 weeks if he's still playing great then yes he's a stud .but as of now he's still in rbbc on a team with no passing game

flame away

The problem with this is anyone can wait 6 weeks to see what he does and proclaim him a stud if he delivers. If you REACT to things in fantasy football, you will always be one step behind. This is especially true in dynasty leagues. So if you wait 6 weeks and he does blow up as many are expecting, you've now lost any chance to get him. It's the ones that can see the talent he has, evaluate the situation, and gamble on the fact that he has a good chance of being that stud that will succeed or fail. Or, you can just wait and watch from the sidelines and watch the people with AP either boom or bust.

I hate to hijack but This Is One Of The Most Important Rues of FF.

 

[beto]

3 and 4 were concern for LT2 when he was a rookie.

Things change.

As someone mentioned above, All Day is as talented as they come so he should have been considered even before he had 1 good game.

 

[NoFBinLA]

3 and 4 were concern for LT2 when he was a rookie.Things change.As someone mentioned above, All Day is as talented as they come so he should have been considered even before he had 1 good game.

Absolutely. He has the talent. the situation isn't a sure thing, but niether was LT2s, as has been mentioned. The Vikes might runrunrun all day and they'll give both backs a chance to perform, if just to make sure AD doesn't wear down come November.

 

[bad-golfer]

3 and 4 were concern for LT2 when he was a rookie.Things change.As someone mentioned above, All Day is as talented as they come so he should have been considered even before he had 1 good game.

Please dont put AP with LT . and can you post who the qb was at the time ,wr's other rb's?

 

[BILLY_THE_BULL]

I guess I am just pissed that I have never owned LT and don't own "AD AP" and probably never will.

 

[FFdork]

Funny how no one has replyed to any of my reasons why i have some concerns bout AP ??

I don't think you're getting a lot of responses because your original post summarized things that most people here already know. If it was all clear-cut about AP (superb talent, no injury history, great team, no competition at the position), he would have been a first round pick.Larry Johnson certainly had to deal with quite a few negatives last season (e.g. no WR threats, bad QB, worse O-line than MN), but he managed win quite a few people championships. It remains to be seen what will happen with AD, but most people believe he has more talent than LJ. There are only maybe 3 elite RBs in the NFL, so for the other 9-12 teams in a league, you have to take some chances. If you don't think he's going to be very good this year, then trade him or don't trade for him. As you pointed out, there are a number of reasons to be skeptical.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I need to save this quote because I've said it before then lost it:Adrian Peterson is one of the most gifted runningbacks to come to the NFL in the past 25 years. Only Bush, Sanders, and Bo Jackson had more to offer athletically than AP. He is Eric Dickerson only much faster. He runs upright, downhill, but can and will juke defenders. He was the most highly recruited player in recent NCAA history and a Miami Florida coach got into a fistfight with another coach at A.P.'s HS in Texas for his attention. His only drawback and the reason he wasn't the first overall pick is that he has the penchant to get hurt. If he stays healthy in the NFL, he will be the #1 RB in the league by 2009 (LT2 is pretty incredible). There is no doubt in my mind. Sincerely, (Not a Vikings fan)

I was two years off.

 

[fatboyj711]

Now i know i'll get flamed for this and could be wrong but how come all i read is AP AD 'o he's a top 5 rb now' or 'he's a stud now'

here are some of my concerns bout AP or AD what ever ya call him

1 He played 1 game vs proble 1 of the worst teams in the n.f.l



2 chester got hurt and will be back soon ,once he does come back it's rbbc for the most part,can't see the vikes sitting chester he did have 1,200 + rushing last yr . kind of hard to just leave the guy on the bench

3 Tarvaris Jackson won't scare any team in the n.f.l and once teams start playing 8 men in the box it ant easy running.(vikes do have a great o line)

4 No big play wr's in min teams don't have to leave a safeties on wr's leaveing them free to play the run

5 AP or AD has had major injury's in the past and that is a big concern

now haveing said all this i do think the guy will be a great player , but i'am reading all the crazy talk and how people are tradeing prove studs for him .

Lets see what he does when he plays a real d and in 6 weeks if he's still playing great then yes he's a stud .but as of now he's still in rbbc on a team with no passing game

flame away

The bolded portions of your quote are exactly why he is already a STUD.2. AP has been in a committee with Chester all season and is putting up scary numbers on limited touches.

3. Opposing teams are already stacking the box focusing on Minn's running game.

4. See above.

 

[drdgreenlove]

All Day is unstoppable...

Stack the box and there is less secondary there to stop his big runs

Don't stack it and he'll get 7 YPC.