MIAMI -- Cleveland Browns wide receiver Donte Stallworth will be charged with DUI manslaughter after a Miami car crash that killed a pedestrian, according to people familiar with the case.
Two people with knowledge of the case said on condition of anonymity the charges will be filed Wednesday against Stallworth in the March 14 accident that killed 59-year-old Mario Reyes. The sources requested anonymity because the charges haven't been announced.
Depending on the circumstance and blood alcohol level I may show him some sympathy.I don't feel sorry for him.
Are you saying it depends how bad he killed him?Depending on the circumstance and blood alcohol level I may show him some sympathy.I don't feel sorry for him.
Take into consideration he said he flashed his lights as a warning before running over himAre you saying it depends how bad he killed him?Depending on the circumstance and blood alcohol level I may show him some sympathy.I don't feel sorry for him.

If he was legally drunk when he hit the man I don't think the lights is a legal excuse, but beyond that, does anyone else find it hard to fathom how someone has time to flash their lights but not to hit the brakes? I mean, it takes longer to reach over and flash the lights then it does to slam your foot on the brake, doesn't it? And if you are about to hit someone, which do you do first? This doesn't make alot of sense to me.Take into consideration he said he flashed his lights as a warning before running over himAre you saying it depends how bad he killed him?Depending on the circumstance and blood alcohol level I may show him some sympathy.I don't feel sorry for him.![]()
When I read it it almost seemed like he was trying to say: ya know I flashed the lights and he didn't get out of the way so.........If he was legally drunk when he hit the man I don't think the lights is a legal excuse, but beyond that, does anyone else find it hard to fathom how someone has time to flash their lights but not to hit the brakes? I mean, it takes longer to reach over and flash the lights then it does to slam your foot on the brake, doesn't it? And if you are about to hit someone, which do you do first? This doesn't make alot of sense to me.Take into consideration he said he flashed his lights as a warning before running over himAre you saying it depends how bad he killed him?Depending on the circumstance and blood alcohol level I may show him some sympathy.I don't feel sorry for him.![]()
The construction crane operator was trying to catch a bus home after finishing his shift around 7:15 a.m.
Just wow.Stallworth's blood-alcohol level after the crash was .12, well above Florida's legal limit of .08, according to results of a blood test.
Drinking impairs decision making. HTH.If he was legally drunk when he hit the man I don't think the lights is a legal excuse, but beyond that, does anyone else find it hard to fathom how someone has time to flash their lights but not to hit the brakes? I mean, it takes longer to reach over and flash the lights then it does to slam your foot on the brake, doesn't it? And if you are about to hit someone, which do you do first? This doesn't make alot of sense to me.Take into consideration he said he flashed his lights as a warning before running over himAre you saying it depends how bad he killed him?Depending on the circumstance and blood alcohol level I may show him some sympathy.I don't feel sorry for him.![]()
You haven't been to Miami much, huh?Serious red flag when somebody is plastered at 7 in the morning.
The construction crane operator was trying to catch a bus home after finishing his shift around 7:15 a.m.Just wow.Stallworth's blood-alcohol level after the crash was .12, well above Florida's legal limit of .08, according to results of a blood test.
Not surprising. If he was out drinking all night until 2-3am and went to sleep (pass out) for a few hours, he'd still have a BAC in the morning. Not saying it's right, just saying it's possible that his BAC was from the night before and not from drinking at 7 in the morning.Serious red flag when somebody is plastered at 7 in the morning.
The construction crane operator was trying to catch a bus home after finishing his shift around 7:15 a.m.Just wow.Stallworth's blood-alcohol level after the crash was .12, well above Florida's legal limit of .08, according to results of a blood test.
I agree the players should hire a driver, rent a limo for the night, etc....But I'm not sure how you expect Cleveland to have a taxi company on payroll in Miami...I don't think it would work anyway, I'm sure the cost is not the reason he didn't take a cab. I'd also like to know what he meant when he said he flashed his lights, and why if he had time to do that he couldn't stop. Bentley's are usually pretty heavy cars but I'm sure they have some massive brakes as well. For now I'm going to reserve judgement until more facts come out. Maybe Donte flashed his lights because the guy was on the side of the road and looked like he might cross? The guy wasn't in the crosswalk, unless Donte was swerving all over the road, how do you get hit by a car? Looking both ways before you cross down? If the dude just bolted across the street without looking (I've seen people do it) then I'll have some sympathy for Donte. It is a sad story though.I HATE this kind of situation. I HATED it when Leonard Little was the perp in a DUI-related fatality. I HATE it now with Stallworth as the accused perp. These guys are so wealthy, and the teams have so much $ invested in them. What's wrong with having a taxi company on the team payroll, so players can call for a ride whenever they need one, no questions asked? Hand out a key-chain tag like the ones Kroger or another grocery chain gives to "preferred customers", with a bar-code that charges rides to the Browns (or Raiders, or whoever). Alternatively, why don't these players just hire a professional driver for their luxury cars (in this case a Bentley). What would a full-time chaffeur cost, $50K a year? Peanuts compared to the signing bonuses. As an added plus, you don't have to go to jail for running down a pedestrian...My .02.
Not surprising. If he was out drinking all night until 2-3am and went to sleep (pass out) for a few hours, he'd still have a BAC in the morning. Not saying it's right, just saying it's possible that his BAC was from the night before and not from drinking at 7 in the morning.Serious red flag when somebody is plastered at 7 in the morning.
The construction crane operator was trying to catch a bus home after finishing his shift around 7:15 a.m.Just wow.Stallworth's blood-alcohol level after the crash was .12, well above Florida's legal limit of .08, according to results of a blood test.

You're right about the problems with having a "National" taxi company on payroll. Maybe a pre-paid credit card for each player with the understanding that the CC can only be used for transportation/cabs? Not sure here, but there has to be a way for the NFL or the NFLPA or the teams individually to provide for transport in the event of "one too many". The black eyes an organization gets when a player causes a serious injury/fatality due to DUI is way more damaging than the cost of a plan to provide transport to the players - make it easy, make it free, and the players would avail themselves of it, IMO. Bottom line: The expectation of the NFL should be that the NFL Players, NFL coaches, NFL Execs, etc. do not drive drunk. Heck, that should be the expectation we have for the whole society. In this paradigm, the small pool of the NFL, the employer (the NFL, the teams) have a vested interest to keep this sort of incident off the front pages of newspapers. There should be some sort of standardized effort to keep it from happening, IMO, for the good of the league. My further .02.I agree the players should hire a driver, rent a limo for the night, etc....But I'm not sure how you expect Cleveland to have a taxi company on payroll in Miami...I don't think it would work anyway, I'm sure the cost is not the reason he didn't take a cab. I'd also like to know what he meant when he said he flashed his lights, and why if he had time to do that he couldn't stop. Bentley's are usually pretty heavy cars but I'm sure they have some massive brakes as well. For now I'm going to reserve judgement until more facts come out. Maybe Donte flashed his lights because the guy was on the side of the road and looked like he might cross? The guy wasn't in the crosswalk, unless Donte was swerving all over the road, how do you get hit by a car? Looking both ways before you cross down? If the dude just bolted across the street without looking (I've seen people do it) then I'll have some sympathy for Donte. It is a sad story though.I HATE this kind of situation. I HATED it when Leonard Little was the perp in a DUI-related fatality. I HATE it now with Stallworth as the accused perp. These guys are so wealthy, and the teams have so much $ invested in them. What's wrong with having a taxi company on the team payroll, so players can call for a ride whenever they need one, no questions asked? Hand out a key-chain tag like the ones Kroger or another grocery chain gives to "preferred customers", with a bar-code that charges rides to the Browns (or Raiders, or whoever). Alternatively, why don't these players just hire a professional driver for their luxury cars (in this case a Bentley). What would a full-time chaffeur cost, $50K a year? Peanuts compared to the signing bonuses. As an added plus, you don't have to go to jail for running down a pedestrian...My .02.
He put himself into a situation in which he could make a stupid decision. It's not the team's responsibility to babysit them, or pay for their players to get their drunk asses taxied around, why would they promote such behavior anyway? If the player wants to drink heavily it's his responsibility to find a way around, Stallworth chose...poorly.I HATE this kind of situation. I HATED it when Leonard Little was the perp in a DUI-related fatality. I HATE it now with Stallworth as the accused perp. These guys are so wealthy, and the teams have so much $ invested in them. What's wrong with having a taxi company on the team payroll, so players can call for a ride whenever they need one, no questions asked? Hand out a key-chain tag like the ones Kroger or another grocery chain gives to "preferred customers", with a bar-code that charges rides to the Browns (or Raiders, or whoever). Alternatively, why don't these players just hire a professional driver for their luxury cars (in this case a Bentley). What would a full-time chaffeur cost, $50K a year? Peanuts compared to the signing bonuses. As an added plus, you don't have to go to jail for running down a pedestrian...My .02.
I do. While he made a boneheaded move by drinking and driving, I don't think he set out to kill anyone.I don't feel sorry for him.
I disagree with that perspective. Many companies, including my own, offer a program under which they will reimburse employees for taking a taxi. It's not about holding hands or promoting behavior, it's providing an employee benefit which offers greater community benefits. People drink, and in our society that often means travelling to a public establishment or friends' house. Furthermore, some would argue that .08 is a very low standard for drunkeness. I never needed the service but knew a number of coworkers who used it.He put himself into a situation in which he could make a stupid decision. It's not the team's responsibility to babysit them, or pay for their players to get their drunk asses taxied around, why would they promote such behavior anyway? If the player wants to drink heavily it's his responsibility to find a way around, Stallworth chose...poorly.I HATE this kind of situation. I HATED it when Leonard Little was the perp in a DUI-related fatality. I HATE it now with Stallworth as the accused perp. These guys are so wealthy, and the teams have so much $ invested in them. What's wrong with having a taxi company on the team payroll, so players can call for a ride whenever they need one, no questions asked? Hand out a key-chain tag like the ones Kroger or another grocery chain gives to "preferred customers", with a bar-code that charges rides to the Browns (or Raiders, or whoever). Alternatively, why don't these players just hire a professional driver for their luxury cars (in this case a Bentley). What would a full-time chaffeur cost, $50K a year? Peanuts compared to the signing bonuses. As an added plus, you don't have to go to jail for running down a pedestrian...My .02.
I put the blame on the players because even if the team provided one of these services who is going to make them place the call. Stallworth would have done the exact same thing. I just can't understand how someone with so much money and so much to lose would take this kind of risk when getting a driver is like putting .25 in a gumball dispenser.Mark Wimer said:I HATE this kind of situation. I HATED it when Leonard Little was the perp in a DUI-related fatality. I HATE it now with Stallworth as the accused perp. These guys are so wealthy, and the teams have so much $ invested in them. What's wrong with having a taxi company on the team payroll, so players can call for a ride whenever they need one, no questions asked? Hand out a key-chain tag like the ones Kroger or another grocery chain gives to "preferred customers", with a bar-code that charges rides to the Browns (or Raiders, or whoever). Alternatively, why don't these players just hire a professional driver for their luxury cars (in this case a Bentley). What would a full-time chaffeur cost, $50K a year? Peanuts compared to the signing bonuses. As an added plus, you don't have to go to jail for running down a pedestrian...My .02.
LinkThread title needs fixing.On Thursday, Browns receiver Donte’ Stallworth will appear in Court in connection with looming DUI manslaughter charges.
The appearance will be voluntary, and is the result of a brokered deal between authorities and Stallworth’s lawyers. Stallworth will not be arrested in the traditional cuffs-and-perp-walk sense.
Lawyer David Cornwell explained the situation via a statement forwarded to us via e-mail earlier this hour.
“Today, law enforcement filed an affidavit to establish that there is probable cause to arrest Donte’,” Cornwell said. “We have been in constant communication with law enforcement and the prosecution and, as result, Donte’s appearance in court tomorrow is voluntary and by agreement among the parties and Court. Donte will be processed and released on bond. These matters have been in the works for the past two weeks or more.”
Cornwell also pointed out that, contrary to published reports from WSVN and others, Donte’ will not be charged at this time.
Though in many cases it’s a distinction without a difference, Cornwell explained that the absence of formal charges is particularly important in this matter because the charges listed in a probable cause affidavit often differ from those that are formally made at an arraignment.
I don't think NFL players refuse to take a taxi because of the lack of opportunity to call a taxi. It's all about leaving the nice car in a parking lot overnight in god knows what part of town or not wanting to have the inconvenience of getting someone to drive them back over the next day to pick it up.A taxi ride doesn't solve that problem...hence it won't stop them from DUI.Finding their car with a smashed in window, their DVD players, GPS system and dashboard plasma screen missing is where the heartburn is. It's the inconvenience, not the cab fair. Offering them free cab fair isn't going to do anything.BigJim® said:I disagree with that perspective. Many companies, including my own, offer a program under which they will reimburse employees for taking a taxi. It's not about holding hands or promoting behavior, it's providing an employee benefit which offers greater community benefits. People drink, and in our society that often means travelling to a public establishment or friends' house. Furthermore, some would argue that .08 is a very low standard for drunkeness. I never needed the service but knew a number of coworkers who used it.MAC_32 said:He put himself into a situation in which he could make a stupid decision. It's not the team's responsibility to babysit them, or pay for their players to get their drunk asses taxied around, why would they promote such behavior anyway? If the player wants to drink heavily it's his responsibility to find a way around, Stallworth chose...poorly.Mark Wimer said:I HATE this kind of situation. I HATED it when Leonard Little was the perp in a DUI-related fatality. I HATE it now with Stallworth as the accused perp. These guys are so wealthy, and the teams have so much $ invested in them. What's wrong with having a taxi company on the team payroll, so players can call for a ride whenever they need one, no questions asked? Hand out a key-chain tag like the ones Kroger or another grocery chain gives to "preferred customers", with a bar-code that charges rides to the Browns (or Raiders, or whoever). Alternatively, why don't these players just hire a professional driver for their luxury cars (in this case a Bentley). What would a full-time chaffeur cost, $50K a year? Peanuts compared to the signing bonuses. As an added plus, you don't have to go to jail for running down a pedestrian...My .02.
I agree with that, but that's not what you said in the post I responded to. You pooh poohed the idea because "It's not the team's responsibility to babysit them, or pay for their players to get their drunk asses taxied around, why would they promote such behavior anyway? If the player wants to drink heavily it's his responsibility to find a way around." That's completely different than saying it probably wouldn't help.I don't think NFL players refuse to take a taxi because of the lack of opportunity to call a taxi. It's all about leaving the nice car in a parking lot overnight in god knows what part of town or not wanting to have the inconvenience of getting someone to drive them back over the next day to pick it up.A taxi ride doesn't solve that problem...hence it won't stop them from DUI.Finding their car with a smashed in window, their DVD players, GPS system and dashboard plasma screen missing is where the heartburn is. It's the inconvenience, not the cab fair. Offering them free cab fair isn't going to do anything.BigJim® said:I disagree with that perspective. Many companies, including my own, offer a program under which they will reimburse employees for taking a taxi. It's not about holding hands or promoting behavior, it's providing an employee benefit which offers greater community benefits. People drink, and in our society that often means travelling to a public establishment or friends' house. Furthermore, some would argue that .08 is a very low standard for drunkeness. I never needed the service but knew a number of coworkers who used it.MAC_32 said:He put himself into a situation in which he could make a stupid decision. It's not the team's responsibility to babysit them, or pay for their players to get their drunk asses taxied around, why would they promote such behavior anyway? If the player wants to drink heavily it's his responsibility to find a way around, Stallworth chose...poorly.Mark Wimer said:I HATE this kind of situation. I HATED it when Leonard Little was the perp in a DUI-related fatality. I HATE it now with Stallworth as the accused perp. These guys are so wealthy, and the teams have so much $ invested in them. What's wrong with having a taxi company on the team payroll, so players can call for a ride whenever they need one, no questions asked? Hand out a key-chain tag like the ones Kroger or another grocery chain gives to "preferred customers", with a bar-code that charges rides to the Browns (or Raiders, or whoever). Alternatively, why don't these players just hire a professional driver for their luxury cars (in this case a Bentley). What would a full-time chaffeur cost, $50K a year? Peanuts compared to the signing bonuses. As an added plus, you don't have to go to jail for running down a pedestrian...My .02.
bolldpt said:maybe if people started looking at the fact that your chance of killing someone while driving impaired dramatically escalates it might reduce such thoughtless actions.

Maybe not.Thread title needs fixing.
LinkAccording to the warrant, Stallworth was drinking at the upscale Club Liv at the Fontainebleau in Miami Beach before returning to a home in Miami at 6:18 a.m. The affadavit didn't clarify whether or not the home was one of Stallworth's three residences in the Miami area.
About an hour later, he left again in his Bentley and struck and killed Reyes on the MacArthur Causeway, which connects Miami and Miami Beach. Reyes sustained critical head, chest and abdominal injuries, and died a short time later at Jackson Memorial Hospital's trauma center.
When officers arrived at the scene, Stallworth was standing outside his car, and told them, "I hit the man lying in the road.'' One of them reported that he smelled alcohol on Stallworth's breath and that his eyes looked "bloodshot and watery.''
A field sobriety test, part of which appears on a video obtained by the Miami Herald, was conducted and blood was drawn at the scene. The lab at the University of Miami revealed that his blood alcohol level was .126.
Sure, taking a cab, renting a limo all make sense. But what's the fun in that? Naturally these guys like looking like NFL players... my buddies and I can rent a limo for the night if we really wanted to as well as get a cab obviously but that doesn't look flashy enough for most of these guys. Now pulling up to the club in my brand new Bentley, that's a different story. These guys like the attention and like the flash, they sometimes don't do the responsible thing for this reason. My feelings on Stallworth, terrible situation, not a known trouble-maker.. just an unfortunate situation all around.dotman said:I agree the players should hire a driver, rent a limo for the night, etc....But I'm not sure how you expect Cleveland to have a taxi company on payroll in Miami...I don't think it would work anyway, I'm sure the cost is not the reason he didn't take a cab. I'd also like to know what he meant when he said he flashed his lights, and why if he had time to do that he couldn't stop. Bentley's are usually pretty heavy cars but I'm sure they have some massive brakes as well. For now I'm going to reserve judgement until more facts come out. Maybe Donte flashed his lights because the guy was on the side of the road and looked like he might cross? The guy wasn't in the crosswalk, unless Donte was swerving all over the road, how do you get hit by a car? Looking both ways before you cross down? If the dude just bolted across the street without looking (I've seen people do it) then I'll have some sympathy for Donte. It is a sad story though.Mark Wimer said:I HATE this kind of situation. I HATED it when Leonard Little was the perp in a DUI-related fatality. I HATE it now with Stallworth as the accused perp. These guys are so wealthy, and the teams have so much $ invested in them. What's wrong with having a taxi company on the team payroll, so players can call for a ride whenever they need one, no questions asked? Hand out a key-chain tag like the ones Kroger or another grocery chain gives to "preferred customers", with a bar-code that charges rides to the Browns (or Raiders, or whoever). Alternatively, why don't these players just hire a professional driver for their luxury cars (in this case a Bentley). What would a full-time chaffeur cost, $50K a year? Peanuts compared to the signing bonuses. As an added plus, you don't have to go to jail for running down a pedestrian...My .02.
Some people have the ability to see both sides of this tragedy.Wonder how those who are sympathetic would feel if it were there family member killed.Get a grip, no one should drink and drive.
Some people have the ability to see both sides of this tragedy.Wonder how those who are sympathetic would feel if it were there family member killed.Get a grip, no one should drink and drive.
I definitely think what Stallworth did was wrong and he should suffer a consequence..... Drinking and driving is very dangerous, however, I am not going to lable Stallworth a "killer" or even a "bad person" for this decision. He made an extremely large mistake. He will have to go through life with that decision and I am sure it won't be easy.I know I will be in the minority here and I have not had anyone killed due to a drunk driver, but I think large jail sentences for a DUI manslaughter is not the best way of dealing with these types of tragedies.Very few drunk drivers do.Christo said:I do. While he made a boneheaded move by drinking and driving, I don't think he set out to kill anyone.I don't feel sorry for him.
I have sympathy for all concerned, but choosing to drive drunk is choosing to be responsible for whatever damages are inflicted on innocent people.He should look on the bright side - with good investing in this down market he could double that $5M by the time he's out of jail.Too bad the guy he killed is always going to be dead.Stallworth just receive a 5 million dollar roster bonus the day before this accident.Limos, cabs, paying a friend to drive you around seems like a better option than driving drunk.
And that's why he'll get charged with manslaughter instead of 1st degree murder.Christo said:I do. While he made a boneheaded move by drinking and driving, I don't think he set out to kill anyone.I don't feel sorry for him.
Let's not joke about premeditated murder - it is pretty tasteless. TIAcstu said:Me either. The best way is for one of the deceased's family members to put a bullet in his head.Some people have the ability to see both sides of this tragedy.Wonder how those who are sympathetic would feel if it were there family member killed.
Get a grip, no one should drink and drive.I definitely think what Stallworth did was wrong and he should suffer a consequence..... Drinking and driving is very dangerous, however, I am not going to lable Stallworth a "killer" or even a "bad person" for this decision. He made an extremely large mistake. He will have to go through life with that decision and I am sure it won't be easy.
I know I will be in the minority here and I have not had anyone killed due to a drunk driver, but I think large jail sentences for a DUI manslaughter is not the best way of dealing with these types of tragedies.