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Double Fantasy TD for Allen on the Crazy Cooper Play? (1 Viewer)

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Don't have a personal dog in this fight, but am fielding some questions about it as commish in a couple of leagues. I understand that the NFL is scoring it as both a passing and Receiving TD, without a reception, but that makes zero sense to me. If the ball would have been deflected back to Allen or if Cooper never had full control, I could see it. However, since Cooper did have full control and then willingly pitched it back to him, it would logically seem like a short reception for Cooper and a rushing score for Allen, even though the exchange was beyond the line of scrimmage.

Darn good play by both players....but is anyone else fielding questions about it or have any thoughts?
 
I also was surprised to see it scored as a passing and receiving TD. I thought laterals are typically viewed as rushing TDs only for the guy that ran it in, but I don't recall for sure. Seems like it should be a reception for Cooper, a completion for Allen, and a rushing TD for Allen. But what do I know.
 
Not the first time this type of play has happened and this is how it is always scored.

The passer gets credit for the completion, all pass yards, and when the play goes for a TD, a passing TD as well.

The initial receiver gets credit for a reception and receiving yardage up to the point of the lateral.

Whomever is the recipient of the lateral does NOT get credited with a reception, but they do get credit for receiving yardage if they go beyond the spot of the lateral, and in the event they go in for a TD as in this particular play, they receive credit for a receiving TD.

Page 20 of the NFL Guide for Statisticians covers this exact play:

Laterals subsequent to the originating play are considered as part of the play from which theyoriginate. The receiver of a lateral is given credit for the yardage he gains from the point he receivesthe lateral, BUT he is not given an attempt, return, or reception on the play. (See Exceptions listedunder Kickoff Returns.) For example, a forward pass is completed and the receiver advances 40yards, then laterals to a teammate who advances the ball an additional 20 yards. This is considereda 60-yard pass play. The first receiver is credited with the reception and 40 yards gained; histeammate, although not credited with a reception, would appear in the pass receiving section with20 yards gained. If a touchdown is scored as a result of such a play, the player who scores shall be credited with a touchdown via receiving. In any case, the original play determines in what category the touchdown was made.
 
Does the QB get credited for a passing TD on an end of game play with a ton of laterals? Does the QB get credited for a passing TD on a hook and ladder play?
 
Does the QB get credited for a passing TD on an end of game play with a ton of laterals? Does the QB get credited for a passing TD on a hook and ladder play?
This was my question, as well. I didn't think so....but perhaps I'm wrong.

Also, the Mariota double TD play was a pass that was deflected back to him, and he ran it in. That one makes sense to me. Link to that play below:

 
Does the QB get credited for a passing TD on an end of game play with a ton of laterals? Does the QB get credited for a passing TD on a hook and ladder play?
If the play started with a forward pass, then yes, the passer would get passing yardage for all yardage gained on the play - it can be lateralled 15 times, the original passer gets all passing yardage, the original receiver is the only one to get credit for a reception, and everyone that touches the ball via lateral gets credit for receiving yardage when they are in possession of the ball.
 
I just tell them I'm not sure why you would argue with official NFL rules. Do they question why QB's that complete a 2 yard pass that goes 78 more yards for the TD get credit for the full 80 yards passing with a TD? Should the QB not get 2 yards passing and the receiver 78 yards rushing and the rushing TD? Passing TD's should only be credited on passes caught in the end zone?

This is how the NFL chooses to credit the yards. End of discussion.
 
Does the QB get credited for a passing TD on an end of game play with a ton of laterals? Does the QB get credited for a passing TD on a hook and ladder play?
Yes

Lions had a hook and ladder TD pass earlier this year vs Cardinals. Goff passed to St Btown who lateraled to Gibbs who scored. Goff got credit for TD pass, Gibbs got credit for TD.
 

An easy, famous example was the Miami Dolphins' hook-and-ladder play just before halftime of their 1981 Divisional Playoff game vs the Chargers.

The ball was snapped just past the 40-yard line. How the play was scored for Miami:

- QB Don Strock - 40-yard TD pass
- WR Duriel Harris - One reception for 15 yards
- RB Tony Nathan - Zero receptions for 25 yards, one TD receiving

Had Nathan been tackled soon after receiving the lateral from Harris, Nathan would've been scored with something like -3 or -4 yards receiving.
 
Shows what kind of fantasy season Cooper has had for his owners. Even when he makes a great heads up NFL play, he messes up his fantasy owners.
 

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