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Draft Analysis -- Tennessee Titans (1 Viewer)

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Summary: The Titans entered the draft with 4 glaring needs -- CB, DE, RB, and WR. With 10 picks in the draft, the Titans ended up directly addressing only one of them. :banned: RB was addressed with a 2nd stringer from Arizona with virtually no production in college. WR was addressed, but with a motley assortment of low producing, oft injured WRs. The Titans first pick at WR, Paul Williams :confused: , scored a grand total of 8 touchdowns in his college career. Interestingly, the Titans passed on Steve Smith to draft Chris Henry.

Most draftniks have panned the Titans' draft. However, one noted analyst, Rich Gosselin, gives the Titans an "A", and feels it was a solid draft with solid picks.

I feel much better about day two than day one. I think there is a lot of value in day 2. However, when your first day draft board is so radically different than everyone else's it makes one wonder just what is going on.

Also, the Titans appeared to get hoodwinked by Detroit and Oakland regarding the Mike Williams trade. It is my position that the Titans drafted in rounds 1 and 2 with the assumption that the Mike Williams trade was in the bag and went other than WR. Then, OAK gets McCown AND Williams for a 4th. The Titans had 10 picks and couldn't swing a trade?

Analysis, pick by pick:

1. Michael Griffin / Safety-- I have no problem with this pick, other than he could likely have been had a few picks later. I believe he is an immediate starter, a big upgrade to the defense and one that will help the CBs. This pick tells us that the Pacman CB void will be filled by Cortland Finnegan who filled in admirably last year for Pacman against the Jags.

2. Chris Henry / RB -- an acorn has the potential to be a mighty oak, I guess. A draft day warrior with very little college production. Granted, that production was in a 4 game stretch late this past season. Other similarly rated RBs were still on the board and could have been had in later rounds, most notably Bush and Pittman in the 4th round.

3. Paul Williams / WR and cabaret singer extraordinaire -- scored 8 TDs in college. Often injured. Not a happy camper. Most of the draft analysis centered on the fact that he'd be better served by switching to defense. :mellow: Good pick, boys.

4. Leroy Harris / C -- really good value pick. Rated as either the 2nd or 3rd best C in the draft. Good pick but not a need, though Olsen and Mawae are aging.

4. Chris Davis / WR-- small but solid WR. Good route runner. Not overly fast for his size.

5. Antonio Johnson / DT -- when the main items discussed are limited intelligence and a lack of football instincts...it doesn't matter how big you are. By the way, he started 5 games in Div 1A.

6. Joel Filani / WR -- Lola's boy :loco: . Comes from pass happy Texas Tech where he did indeed put up the numbers. At 6'2" 216 he could be something to watch. Playmaker but not overly fast at 4.7.

6. Jacob Ford / DE -- 6'4" 249 and runs a 4.6. That causes a raised eyebrow. Smart player but possibly better suited to a 3-4. Titans looking for a speed rush. What did Kearse way as a rookie?

6. Ryan Smith / CB -- Florida starter 32 out of 35 games. Small but quick, agile, and smart. Can he be a returner? Likely a nickel back.

7. Michael Otto / OT -- Could end up vying as the value steal of the draft in the long term. 6'5" 308. Didn't allow a single sack his senior season at Purdue.

Truly a wait and see draft.

 
I'd worry about Antonio Johnson's intelligence when they start requiring written tests at halftime. In the meantime, he's a physical speciman. Good pick, I thought.

It all comes back to Chris Henry, right? Maybe the biggest "what the....." moment for me in the draft.

 
I'd worry about Antonio Johnson's intelligence when they start requiring written tests at halftime. In the meantime, he's a physical speciman. Good pick, I thought.It all comes back to Chris Henry, right? Maybe the biggest "what the....." moment for me in the draft.
Me, too. Especially with Steve Smith ripe for the picking. When you pick a RB in the 2nd round two years in a row...
 
I have finally stomached the Griffin pick. I think he was a top-20 player, and he fits one of the needs the Titans had. He'll start immediately in front of Lamont, which is a good thing. That said, I would have preferred Aaron Ross since he can return kicks as well.

The 2nd and 3rd are the problem children. I can think of 50 different combos that would have been preferred. Eric Wright/Michael Bush....Steve Smith/Charles Johnson...uck.

As I have pointed out: THe Titans now have 9 receivers on their roster. Only Justin Gage and David Givens have more then 2 years of service time in the NFL. Only Jones and Givens would see time for any other NFL team.

 
The Titans aren't going to throw the ball that much anyway. None of their WR have any fantasy value.

I like the Griffin pick because Lamont looks like a pez dispencer everytime there's a deep ball thrown. I think Henry will be a nice change of pace back if Lendale fatty McFat#### will get his ### in gear.

The jury is out on the WR, especially the headcase Williams. I did like the Johnson, Ford, and Smith picks....day 2 wasn't too bad.

 
I have finally stomached the Griffin pick. I think he was a top-20 player, and he fits one of the needs the Titans had. He'll start immediately in front of Lamont, which is a good thing. That said, I would have preferred Aaron Ross since he can return kicks as well.The 2nd and 3rd are the problem children. I can think of 50 different combos that would have been preferred. Eric Wright/Michael Bush....Steve Smith/Charles Johnson...uck.As I have pointed out: THe Titans now have 9 receivers on their roster. Only Justin Gage and David Givens have more then 2 years of service time in the NFL. Only Jones and Givens would see time for any other NFL team.
Jones = good WR, and would start on many NFL teams.Givens, the same, but he can't do it on one leg.I see no one else on the roster that remotely resembles a starting WR. We'll have to sign someone that gets cut or trade for someone. How could we not trade for DJax?Likewise, I have no problems except Henry and Williams.
 
i was disappointed at first, but the more i watch the highlights on these guys the more excited i am !

Griffin is a solid player and i'm glad that i never have to watch Lamont play again.

Paul Williams is going to be a beast!

GO TITANS !!!

 
his brother died from football and both his mom and dad died recently...

i'm sure his head wasn't in the game for most of his time in college, but there is a lot of potential with him.

as with all of our picks....there is a lot of potential with all of them. All the players we picked are very versatile and can play a few positions. I think they reached with some of the picks because they wanted to make sure they got the players they wanted.

it's going to be exciting to watch them..... i can't wait to go to Clarksville for training camp!!!!

 
The quickest capsule from my viewpoint is this:

Going into the draft the Titan's had one of, if not the, worst WR corps in the entire NFL and the RB corp was at best marginally better. After the draft they seem to be in much the same position.

 
I basically like all the picks except for the C. Henry pick. I think Paul Williams is actually going to exceptional. It's just a hunch, but based on what I have seen he is as athletically gifted as any WR in the draft not named Calvin Johnson. His nickname is "the freak" as he has like 35 inch arms and 10 1/2 inch hands. As a Junior he was great. I think he will be the story of traing camp just like Brandon Jones was two years ago. Also, I love the Chris Davis pick to play the slot WR spot as he looks to be a D. Mason clone.

Now, my take on C. Henry is as follows. RB is perhaps the most instinctive position in football. Finding, hitting, and exploding through a moving hole 3 feet wide at full speed is very hard to do. And to a certain degree it can't be taught. I don't care if your 250 lbs. and run a 4.3 if you can't find the hole, you can't be a succesful NFL RB. Based on Chirs Henry's YPC and watching film it is apparent to me that this kid hasnt yet learned how to do just this. Can Coach Sherman teach him how to be more patient and not run into the backs of his blockers and/or bounce everyone run outside?

Now I am hopeful that our FO was right about C. Henry. I just can't overlook the fact that he averaged 3.5 YPC in 2007 behind the same offensive line that his "less talented" backup averaged 4.3 YPC.

Here are the stats:

Henry,Chris 165 668 3.5 7

Jennings, C. 105 500 4.3 3

 
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I'm beginning the think the FO knows something that I/we are missing about a potential cut coming before June 1 at WR. Derrick Mason perhaps?

 
I'm beginning the think the FO knows something that I/we are missing about a potential cut coming before June 1 at WR. Derrick Mason perhaps?
Oh, I think that is definitely something in the back pocket. Also, somebody is going to get cut in New England. How many million do they have in WR now? McCareins may be released, too, not that he's exactly Jerry Rice.
 
All the talk about Griffin playing corner...Is it just to pacify Lamont Thompson for the time being or are they seriously considering playing more zone or cover 2..

Griffin probably would make for a very good Cover 2 corner because of his aggressiveness and tackling ability

I wouldn't feel bad with

Harper and Griffin at Corner

Finnigan at nickle

Hope and Lowry at Safety(If not Lowery...anyone but Lamont..lol

 
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Weapon of Mass Instruction said:
Colin Dowling said:
I'm beginning the think the FO knows something that I/we are missing about a potential cut coming before June 1 at WR. Derrick Mason perhaps?
Oh, I think that is definitely something in the back pocket. Also, somebody is going to get cut in New England. How many million do they have in WR now? McCareins may be released, too, not that he's exactly Jerry Rice.
I dont doubt that someone from the Pats could be cut that would be a nice addition to the Titans but it wont be because of $:Moss = $3.5 millionStallworth = $3.5 millionWelker = < $2 millionCaldwell = $1 millionGaffney = $500,000Washington = $1.5 millionThe Pats only have about $12 million tied up in their whole receiving corps. Thats not a huge amount on a $110 million salary cap. The Colts probably have that tied up in their top 3 receivers.
 
I know that judging the draft immediately after is a crap-shoot, but I think the Titans got good value in their most of their selections, especially in the mid to late rounds.

 
TOMB (Titans board) is tossin gout the name of Ogunye Algowhatever or Alex Brown from the Bears possibly getting cut. Either would be a huge help and would make passing on Charles Johnson in the 3rd a little more understandable.

They are also "reporting" that the Titans have already talked to Griffin about playing corner, which could suggest a move to more zone schemes since Harper is much better in zone. At least until Pac is back. If that is the case, don't forget bryon Scott was added. Not a great player, but certainly no worse then Lamont.

Lots of people over there like the Griffin pick, trying to have faith with Henry/Williams, like the other two WRs in the slot (I happen to agree) and think that the C, DT< and OT were great picks (agree).

I think rounds 2 and 3, in addition to not taking the Browns trade (which could have still resulted in Griffin a la the deal Dallas made w/ Phi) are the things people are rightfully hung up on. Speculation on my part, but i imagine that Norm did his due diligence w/ his Pac 10/West Coast contacts to perhaps get deeper insight to Henry and Williams. WIlliams has some nice catches on his highlight reel, but then again, that's what highlight reels are for.

 
TOMB (Titans board) is tossin gout the name of Ogunye Algowhatever or Alex Brown from the Bears possibly getting cut. Either would be a huge help and would make passing on Charles Johnson in the 3rd a little more understandable.
Adewale Ogunleye had a killer year in Miami, apparently piggy backing on Jason Taylor and then signed with CHI for big bucks, underwhelming across from Alex Brown who also haven't been living up to his potential. O-Gun has also been injured a bit. If the Bears cut either I'd have to believe it is to get Mark Anderson on the field.IF Ogunleye is healthy, motivated and properly coached he would be an instant upgrade over Laboy and Odom.
 
They are also "reporting" that the Titans have already talked to Griffin about playing corner, which could suggest a move to more zone schemes since Harper is much better in zone. At least until Pac is back. If that is the case, don't forget bryon Scott was added. Not a great player, but certainly no worse then Lamont.people over there like the Griffin pick, trying to have faith with Henry/Williams, like the other two WRs in the
Here are some quotes from Fishers press conference to back it up..This is what I was alluding to in my earlier post...not the TOMB though :lol: (real Titan fans get their info from here :lmao: )HEAD COACH JEFF FISHER(opening statement)I know some of you have already had a chance to visit and meet Michael, but at this time, I want to formally introduce to you our first round pick of this year’s draft, Michael Griffin, safety, corner, kicker, linebacker, or whatever else he is going to play for us.....(on if he is going to play cornerback in addition to safety)We are going to give him a chance to line up in several different spots. We know what he can do at safety and he is only going to get better because he is going to have more time to work on it. What we are going to do is allow him to work outside and fine tune his man-to-man cover skills. ..........(on why the Titans think he can move around and play different positions)He is a versatile player. He understands things. He is a football player first. He is very good in space. He can change direction. He can tackle. ........DB MICHAEL GRIFFIN(on possibly being converted from a safety to a cornerback)I feel great. I learned a lot at the University of Texas. I learned all positions on the field. Just to go out there and play corner, I know exactly what to do. I’ve learned all the concepts.........(on how many other teams looked at you playing corner)There were many team every since I went to the Senior Bowl. I went out there and did one-on-ones. I think I did a very good job out there. Some teams came out to the school and watched our tapes every since I was a freshman until my senior year. Every day in practice we did one-on-ones. Just from there, a lot of people asked me, “do you think you are able to play corner.?” On some people’s boards I wasn’t the top corner but I was the top safety, but some people needed a strictly a corner, some needed safety. Coach Jeff Fisher brought me in here and said you know I think you are able to play both positions and in any position I put you out there in just go out there and do the best you can and get the job done. ......All this reads...him playing corner....wouldn't be surprised in Hill was our nickle and Courtland moved to FS. They like how Courtland tackles and his cover skills...remember he was the nickle back last year and made plays...so my depth chart might not be so off :)
 
They are also "reporting" that the Titans have already talked to Griffin about playing corner, which could suggest a move to more zone schemes since Harper is much better in zone. At least until Pac is back. If that is the case, don't forget bryon Scott was added. Not a great player, but certainly no worse then Lamont.people over there like the Griffin pick, trying to have faith with Henry/Williams, like the other two WRs in the
Here are some quotes from Fishers press conference to back it up..This is what I was alluding to in my earlier post...not the TOMB though :goodposting: (real Titan fans get their info from here :thumbup: )HEAD COACH JEFF FISHER(opening statement)I know some of you have already had a chance to visit and meet Michael, but at this time, I want to formally introduce to you our first round pick of this year’s draft, Michael Griffin, safety, corner, kicker, linebacker, or whatever else he is going to play for us.....(on if he is going to play cornerback in addition to safety)We are going to give him a chance to line up in several different spots. We know what he can do at safety and he is only going to get better because he is going to have more time to work on it. What we are going to do is allow him to work outside and fine tune his man-to-man cover skills. ..........(on why the Titans think he can move around and play different positions)He is a versatile player. He understands things. He is a football player first. He is very good in space. He can change direction. He can tackle. ........DB MICHAEL GRIFFIN(on possibly being converted from a safety to a cornerback)I feel great. I learned a lot at the University of Texas. I learned all positions on the field. Just to go out there and play corner, I know exactly what to do. I’ve learned all the concepts.........(on how many other teams looked at you playing corner)There were many team every since I went to the Senior Bowl. I went out there and did one-on-ones. I think I did a very good job out there. Some teams came out to the school and watched our tapes every since I was a freshman until my senior year. Every day in practice we did one-on-ones. Just from there, a lot of people asked me, “do you think you are able to play corner.?” On some people’s boards I wasn’t the top corner but I was the top safety, but some people needed a strictly a corner, some needed safety. Coach Jeff Fisher brought me in here and said you know I think you are able to play both positions and in any position I put you out there in just go out there and do the best you can and get the job done. ......All this reads...him playing corner....wouldn't be surprised in Hill was our nickle and Courtland moved to FS. They like how Courtland tackles and his cover skills...remember he was the nickle back last year and made plays...so my depth chart might not be so off :hot:
I guess they are figuring Griffin can play corner opposite Harper while Fuller/Scott/Lamont and Hope play safety. Then, if/when Jones comes back, Griffin can move back to safety. Ok, that makes sense. I'm not sure that's how I'd have done it, but it makes sense.
 
Summary:

3. Paul Williams / WR and cabaret singer extraordinaire

6. Joel Filani / WR -- Lola's boy :lmao:
Couldn't resist posting this:
lola&paul.jpg


EDIT: Sorry, it seems that I'm a plank and can't properly post the pic, even though the code looks correct. If you copy-and-paste it into the address field you should be able to see it, although the joke's probably shot to hell now...I'll do better...

 
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After digesting this and researching, I'm really excited about one of the later draft picks. Joel Filani in the 6th round. 6'2" or 6'3" and over 200. Played at Texas Tech. I know the numbers will be somewhat distorted by being in the pass happy Texas Tech system but the guy can play. Solid, solid. Good hands, and appears to be very instinctive in getting open and catching the ball. I think he will prove to be the most productive WR from our draft and the one to contribute first.

My next favorite, after Michael Griffin, is Michael Otto. Started 50 games at LT for Purdue.

 
according to an insider.... the Bengals got our first two draft picks!

we were prepared to draft Leon Hall with the first pick and Kenny Irons with the second pick.

since Cinci already had a couple of rb's the titans didn't expect them to take Irons.

i'm glad we didn't get hall, i haven't been impressed with him from what i've seen .... but irons would have been good for us!

 
After digesting this and researching, I'm really excited about one of the later draft picks. Joel Filani in the 6th round. 6'2" or 6'3" and over 200. Played at Texas Tech. I know the numbers will be somewhat distorted by being in the pass happy Texas Tech system but the guy can play. Solid, solid. Good hands, and appears to be very instinctive in getting open and catching the ball. I think he will prove to be the most productive WR from our draft and the one to contribute first.

I like the Harris and Otto picks the best by far. I think that the Titan O-line should be in good shape for a while, especially if they can afford to pay Roos is "billions."
 
according to an insider.... the Bengals got our first two draft picks! we were prepared to draft Leon Hall with the first pick and Kenny Irons with the second pick. since Cinci already had a couple of rb's the titans didn't expect them to take Irons. i'm glad we didn't get hall, i haven't been impressed with him from what i've seen .... but irons would have been good for us!
If they'd wanted Hall, they should have traded up for him. Aside from Quinn slipping past the Bengals, Hall slipping past the Texans was the biggest head-scratcher of the first round.I can say with absolute confidence that I would feel the exact same about the first day picks if they had been Hall and Irons and Williams instead of Griffin, Henry, and Williams.
 
I can say with absolute confidence that I would feel the exact same about the first day picks if they had been Hall and Irons and Williams instead of Griffin, Henry, and Williams.
i agree with you there, except that the guys we got could provide a little more excitement ! it's going to be a fun season!
 
according to an insider.... the Bengals got our first two draft picks! we were prepared to draft Leon Hall with the first pick and Kenny Irons with the second pick. since Cinci already had a couple of rb's the titans didn't expect them to take Irons. i'm glad we didn't get hall, i haven't been impressed with him from what i've seen .... but irons would have been good for us!
If they'd wanted Hall, they should have traded up for him. Aside from Quinn slipping past the Bengals, Hall slipping past the Texans was the biggest head-scratcher of the first round.I can say with absolute confidence that I would feel the exact same about the first day picks if they had been Hall and Irons and Williams instead of Griffin, Henry, and Williams.
I wouldn't be excited by Hall. I think he has more bust risk than some of the other corners. Irons, I don't see as any better prospect than Henry.I like the Griffin pick. You look at most of the big plays we gave up last year and, surprise surprise, it was where Thompson didn't get the handoff from Pac or Hill on coverage. I think Griffin makes the corners much better. The next thing that can help the corners is a pass rush from the right DE.I really like the 2nd day draft. I like it all, except picks 2 and 3. I just have a really hard time passing on Steve Smith to take Chris Henry.
 
By the way, what are the terms of Kerry Collins' contract? I'm thinking that Kelly Holcomb is going to be available since PHI drafted Kolb. Frankly, with Collins' physical limitations, I think I'd rather have Holcomb.

 
I had my sights set on a Meachem/Irons 1st/2nd rd combo

I'm not a fan that needs sexy picks to be happy, but Meachem/Bowe sitting there and not taking them made me almost vomit ... Griffin can play but Vince can't go catch his own passes

and when the Bungles picked Irons I did vomit ... they have frikking Rudi and they pick the one back one pick before us

I hate to say this but I had this same sinking feeling when we picked Adam Jones (wanted Antrelle Rolle)

 
i thought we'd take rolle also, but i've been more than happy with pacman (on the field!), he brings excitement and energy that rolle doesn't (besides pacman returns kicks and is one of the best at it).....

did you all see the chris henry blog? i'm not sure if it's legit or not, but it's a good read none-the-less....

http://yardbarker.com/users/Chris_Henry

 

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