Draft from hell or most hilarious ever?! (1 Viewer)

[ExtremeFajita]

My wife joined her own league this year. She has a very passable knowledge of all the basic do's and don'ts, who is injury prone, stud RB and best value theory etc. She relies on me for ADP info to avoid reaches and more recent player info. so I tagged along to her draft last night. Now this is a small league (8-teams) comprised primarily of Catholic school teachers, mostly women (now I am a big fan of both those groups of people but just laying the groundwork). My first surprise was that this was a money league ($20 entry) where every trade ($5) and waiver wire transaction ($1) goes into the pot for the league champion.

Upon arrival, the hostess and league commissioner offers me a beer. Ahh...maybe this won't be so bad after all. I usually wait until I draft my kicker to drink, but one pre-draft brew can't hurt. "I don't drink at all" she says, "so I didn't know what kind of beer to get. Is O'Douls ok?" I don't have the heart to tell her it's a non-alcoholic beer, so I just pass and take her up on a cup of coffee. "It's sugar-maple decaf". Hmm...I go with ice-water.

Next my wife and I are going over the draft format when the Commish mentions, "I don't like those serpentine drafts. If there are 12 teams the 1st team has to wait over 20 picks before they get another chance and they miss out on all those players." At this pont I am unable to keep my mouth shut. "Well having a Larry Johnson or LT2 more than makes up for the wait, and then you are also the first team to pick your 3rd player. The huge advantage of picking first is balanced by picking last in the next round. Plus, there are only 8-teams in this league." "Well, I figured out a way so everyone only waits 8 picks before they pick again", she replies. Here is the draft order she came up with...Round 1: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 Round 2: 8-1-2-3-4-5-6-7 Round 3: 7-8-1-2-3-4-5-6 etc. Even my wife had to pipe in..."So team seven gets screwed", she says. The final word was simply, "Well we're not doing this the man's way".

OK. I'm a guest here and I'm going to smile and shut up now. Of course we get Team 7 in the draft order and I just keep the smile glued to my face and get ready to help my wife have the best draft possible. At this point I felt like the guy in the Bud-Light commercial with the helmet and goggles on who has a talk with his girlfriend about their relationship.

The league starts 1QB/2RB/2WR/TE/K/D. Rounds 1-2-3 we take Rudi J., Larry Fitz and Edgerrin James. OK off to a good start. Typical guppie draft with QBs and big-names flying off the board quickly. Round 4 LaMont Jordan is sitting there...great!

Round 5...Roy Williams.

Round 6...Donald Driver.

Round 7...Reggie Bush.

Round 8...Jake Plummer (backup QBs were going at this point)

Round 9...Steve McNair

Round 10...Ben Watson

Round 11...Terry Glenn

Round 12...Baltimore D

Round 13...Chris Cooley

Round 14...Giants D

Round 15...Terrell Owens...yes, they had all decided he was a big doo-doo-head and they wouldn't touch him with a 10-foot pole. Fortunately I was able to convince my wife by whispering, "You don't get points off for character...do want these people's money or not?" in between every round and I finally broke her.

Round 16...Josh Brown.

Round 17...DeAngelo Williams

An evening to remember for sure. They were all very kind and personable people, but in the context of a FF $$$ draft it took on a very surreal atmosphere and reminded me that FF sharks in the real world are much more rare than they are in these forums.

 

[doughboydeluxe]

Now this is a small league (8-teams) comprised primarily of Catholic school teachers, mostly women

Mostly women? So there was a dude there that let you draft that team?The women should have had an auction... they would have felt like they were shopping for three hours.

 

[valhallan]

 

[Liquid Tension]

My wife joined her own league this year. She has a very passable knowledge of all the basic do's and don'ts, who is injury prone, stud RB and best value theory etc. She relies on me for ADP info to avoid reaches and more recent player info. so I tagged along to her draft last night. Now this is a small league (8-teams) comprised primarily of Catholic school teachers, mostly women (now I am a big fan of both those groups of people but just laying the groundwork). My first surprise was that this was a money league ($20 entry) where every trade ($5) and waiver wire transaction ($1) goes into the pot for the league champion.Upon arrival, the hostess and league commissioner offers me a beer. Ahh...maybe this won't be so bad after all. I usually wait until I draft my kicker to drink, but one pre-draft brew can't hurt. "I don't drink at all" she says, "so I didn't know what kind of beer to get. Is O'Douls ok?" I don't have the heart to tell her it's a non-alcoholic beer, so I just pass and take her up on a cup of coffee. "It's sugar-maple decaf". Hmm...I go with ice-water. Next my wife and I are going over the draft format when the Commish mentions, "I don't like those serpentine drafts. If there are 12 teams the 1st team has to wait over 20 picks before they another chance and they miss out on all those players." At this pont I am unable to keep my mouth shut. "Well having a Larry Johnson or LT2 more than makes up for the wait, and then you are also the first team to pick your 3rd player. The huge advantage of picking first is balanced by picking last in the next round. Plus, there are only 8-teams in this league." "Well, I figured out a way so everyone only waits 8 picks before they pick again", she replies. Here is the draft order she came up with...Round 1: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 Round 2: 8-1-2-3-4-5-6-7 Round 3: 7-8-1-2-3-4-5-6 etc. Even my wife had to pipe in..."So team seven gets screwed", she says. The final word was simply, "Well we're not doing this the man's way".OK. I'm a guest here and I'm going to smile and shut up now. Of course we get Team 7 in the draft order and I just keep the smile glued to my face and get ready to help my wife have the best draft possible. At this point I felt like the guy in the Bud-Light commercial with the helmet and goggles on who has a talk with his girlfriend about their relationship. The league starts 1QB/2RB/2WR/TE/K/D. Rounds 1-2-3 we take Rudi J., Larry Fitz and Edgerrin James. OK off to a good start. Typical guppie draft with QBs and big-names flying off the board quickly. Round 4 LaMont Jordan is sitting there...great! Round 5...Roy Williams.Round 6...Donald Driver.Round 7...Reggie Bush.Round 8...Jake Plummer (backup QBs were going at this point)Round 9...Steve McNairRound 10...Ben WatsonRound 11...Terry GlennRound 12...Baltimore DRound 13...Chris CooleyRound 14...Giants DRound 15...Terrell Owens...yes, they had all decided he was a big doo-doo-head and they wouldn't touch him with a 10-foot pole. Fortunately I was able to convince my wife by whispering, "You don't get points off for character...do want these people's money or not?" in between every round and I finally broke her.Round 16...Josh Brown.Round 17...DeAngelo WilliamsAn evening to remember for sure. They were all very kind and personable people, but in the context of a FF $$$ draft it took on a very surreal atmosphere and reminded me that FF sharks in the real world are much more rare than they are in these forums.

Good story, but I agree the auction would have made them happier

 

[Bluestaples]

I usually don't have the heart to read these threads all the way through, but this one was amusing!

 

[WisWolvrns]

I wouldn't knock that draft ordering. It is much better than serpentine. For a 12 team league, it means you draft a player every 13 picks. A constant amount, other than the rounds you get a double pick and every owner gets double picks throughout the course of the draft.

We have used such a draft ordering for well over a decade and it still comes down to picking the best players.

Albeit some voiced your concerns too, so the non-playoff teams from the previous season are randomly assigned picks 1-6 and the playoff teams randomly get picks 7-12. (the 6th slot person can swap over to 12th for the first double if he thinks it is better at the time of the randomization)

After the first round, everyone picks a player every 13th selection so you can't get any more fair than that. We also use IDP's and have a balanced scoring system with a 30 round draft.

We have had an 11th spot owner win it all in the past and are not a league of guppies. It still comes down to drafting the right players. Having a constant amount of picks between each of your picks and each owner (except the guy with the upcoming double) picking only 1 player in between each of your picks all draft long makes for a much more strategic draft, eliminating the "position runs" which can screw owners at the ends of serpentine drafts and the long boring waits between picks.

 

[Z-Dog]

:IBTL:

 

[CA_7]

Great story

 

[ExtremeFajita]

I know. I apologize for that. I was going to skip out on next year's, but I think I'll go back just for that purpose.

 

[doughboydeluxe]

I know. I apologize for that. I was going to skip out on next year's, but I think I'll go back just for that purpose.

Were any of them worthy?

 

[ExtremeFajita]

I wouldn't knock that draft ordering. It is much better than serpentine. For a 12 team league, it means you draft a player every 13 picks. A constant amount, other than the rounds you get a double pick and every owner gets double picks throughout the course of the draft.We have used such a draft ordering for well over a decade and it still comes down to picking the best players. Albeit some voiced your concerns too, so the non-playoff teams from the previous season are randomly assigned picks 1-6 and the playoff teams randomly get picks 7-12. (the 6th slot person can swap over to 12th for the first double if he thinks it is better at the time of the randomization)

Point well taken. However, I think your variation in the first round is what makes it an effective method. Picking 2nd to last in the first round and last in the 2nd (what our team was stuck with) did not make us happy campers.

 

[Jack Burton]

you should have offered to be the poor schmuck who has to wait till the end of the second round for another pick.

"... no really, we dont mind picking first"

 

[Klecko HOF]

My wife joined her own league this year. She has a very passable knowledge of all the basic do's and don'ts, who is injury prone, stud RB and best value theory etc. She relies on me for ADP info to avoid reaches and more recent player info. so I tagged along to her draft last night. Now this is a small league (8-teams) comprised primarily of Catholic school teachers, mostly women (now I am a big fan of both those groups of people but just laying the groundwork). My first surprise was that this was a money league ($20 entry) where every trade ($5) and waiver wire transaction ($1) goes into the pot for the league champion.Upon arrival, the hostess and league commissioner offers me a beer. Ahh...maybe this won't be so bad after all. I usually wait until I draft my kicker to drink, but one pre-draft brew can't hurt. "I don't drink at all" she says, "so I didn't know what kind of beer to get. Is O'Douls ok?" I don't have the heart to tell her it's a non-alcoholic beer, so I just pass and take her up on a cup of coffee. "It's sugar-maple decaf". Hmm...I go with ice-water. Next my wife and I are going over the draft format when the Commish mentions, "I don't like those serpentine drafts. If there are 12 teams the 1st team has to wait over 20 picks before they get another chance and they miss out on all those players." At this pont I am unable to keep my mouth shut. "Well having a Larry Johnson or LT2 more than makes up for the wait, and then you are also the first team to pick your 3rd player. The huge advantage of picking first is balanced by picking last in the next round. Plus, there are only 8-teams in this league." "Well, I figured out a way so everyone only waits 8 picks before they pick again", she replies. Here is the draft order she came up with...Round 1: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 Round 2: 8-1-2-3-4-5-6-7 Round 3: 7-8-1-2-3-4-5-6 etc. Even my wife had to pipe in..."So team seven gets screwed", she says. The final word was simply, "Well we're not doing this the man's way".OK. I'm a guest here and I'm going to smile and shut up now. Of course we get Team 7 in the draft order and I just keep the smile glued to my face and get ready to help my wife have the best draft possible. At this point I felt like the guy in the Bud-Light commercial with the helmet and goggles on who has a talk with his girlfriend about their relationship. The league starts 1QB/2RB/2WR/TE/K/D. Rounds 1-2-3 we take Rudi J., Larry Fitz and Edgerrin James. OK off to a good start. Typical guppie draft with QBs and big-names flying off the board quickly. Round 4 LaMont Jordan is sitting there...great! Round 5...Roy Williams.Round 6...Donald Driver.Round 7...Reggie Bush.Round 8...Jake Plummer (backup QBs were going at this point)Round 9...Steve McNairRound 10...Ben WatsonRound 11...Terry GlennRound 12...Baltimore DRound 13...Chris CooleyRound 14...Giants DRound 15...Terrell Owens...yes, they had all decided he was a big doo-doo-head and they wouldn't touch him with a 10-foot pole. Fortunately I was able to convince my wife by whispering, "You don't get points off for character...do want these people's money or not?" in between every round and I finally broke her.Round 16...Josh Brown.Round 17...DeAngelo WilliamsAn evening to remember for sure. They were all very kind and personable people, but in the context of a FF $$$ draft it took on a very surreal atmosphere and reminded me that FF sharks in the real world are much more rare than they are in these forums.

 

[Dolfan]

Now this is a small league (8-teams) comprised primarily of Catholic school teachers, mostly women

The women should have had an auction... they would have felt like they were shopping for three hours.

 

[rolliehouliranson]

You took 2 defenses before Owens?

 

[ExtremeFajita]

You took 2 defenses before Owens?

I was lucky to get her to take him at all. She hates having players on her FF team that are of poor character.

 

[phillzphan]

Wow lots of sexists here on FBG.

 

[bostonfred]

Congratulations, you just ripped off a bunch of catholic school teachers. I wouldn't be using the word hell lightly if I were you.

 

[Ted the Caver]

You took 2 defenses before Owens?

I was lucky to get her to take him at all. She hates having players on her FF team that are of poor character.

This thread is a

 

[blenderfrog]

Your team kinda sucks, hopefully, you'll have better luck next year.

 

[redman]

Now this is a small league (8-teams) comprised primarily of Catholic school teachers, mostly women

The women should have had an auction... they would have felt like they were shopping for three hours.

 

[Johnny Rock]

Was it actually your wife's team? What I'm asking is were you able to relax and let her make her way through the draft or did your eyes bug out at the value and sort of "take over?" Just wondering, cuz I'd be going nuts.

That draft order is whack. She did well to just run with it. Way to just arbitrarily change the draft at the last second Ms. Commish.

Did your wife use the Draft Dominator? If she did, did others look at her like she was crazy? Any other husbands there? What was the atmosphere like? Was it, "Oh, I was hoping to get him. He has a great butt."

Please post all the teams for curiosity sake. Great story.

 

[SKIDMARK]

The funniest part of this was that you let Owens sit there till the 15th round. You would have felt pretty stupid telling your buddies how you missed out on Owens in the 14th round.

 

[IM666]

comprised primarily of Catholic school teachers

Now, first I will admit I know as much about Catholic school teachers as I do about dating Jessica Alba. Having done neither, I will go on assumptions...

"I don't like those serpentine drafts. If there are 12 teams the 1st team has to wait over 20 picks before they get another chance and they miss out on all those players"

I would not be surprised they do not want to do a serpentine draft, isn't a snake what got them in trouble in the first place?

Upon arrival, the hostess and league commissioner offers me a beer. Ahh...maybe this won't be so bad after all. I usually wait until I draft my kicker to drink, but one pre-draft brew can't hurt. "I don't drink at all" she says, "so I didn't know what kind of beer to get. Is O'Douls ok?" I don't have the heart to tell her it's a non-alcoholic beer, so I just pass and take her up on a cup of coffee. "It's sugar-maple decaf". Hmm...I go with ice-water.

I knew there was a reason I keep a 40 under my wheelchair seat...Now, I need to know, what was the trash talk like?"Oh dear, your pick is utterly dreadful, go say the lords prayer five times""You picked Chad Johnson? I here he is a lutheran"On the upside, I'm guessing there were far less people scratching themselves at this draft than at mine.

 

[DoubleG]

The funniest part of this was that you let Owens sit there till the 15th round. You would have felt pretty stupid telling your buddies how you missed out on Owens in the 14th round.

Dude! It's his WIFE'S team. Hw was just..."helping".

 

[redman]

comprised primarily of Catholic school teachers

Now, first I will admit I know as much about Catholic school teachers as I do about dating Jessica Alba. Having done neither, I will go on assumptions...

Interesting syntax.

 

[ExtremeFajita]

Congratulations, you just ripped off a bunch of catholic school teachers. I wouldn't be using the word hell lightly if I were you.

My wife is one of those teachers...and she made all the picks except for when I convinced her to take T.O.. All I did was tell her to hold off on a few players if I thought they would be around later. As I mentioned before, they were all great people, funny, and they even let the expletives fly when it was called for. As far as a previous comment about FBG sexists, I never said any of these people were poor drafters because they were not men. It's something they do for fun although there is money involved, and the two men that were there made as many poor picks. We play for fun as well...we just spend more time researching it than the average league member there. My intention here is not to ridicule anyone...my wife and I just thought the whole experience with the beverages etc. was amusing...that's all. We all know that there is nothing sexist about the culture surrounding the NFL anyways.

 

[TheLaw]

My wife joined her own league this year. She has a very passable knowledge of all the basic do's and don'ts, who is injury prone, stud RB and best value theory etc. She relies on me for ADP info to avoid reaches and more recent player info. so I tagged along to her draft last night. Now this is a small league (8-teams) comprised primarily of Catholic school teachers, mostly women (now I am a big fan of both those groups of people but just laying the groundwork). My first surprise was that this was a money league ($20 entry) where every trade ($5) and waiver wire transaction ($1) goes into the pot for the league champion.

Upon arrival, the hostess and league commissioner offers me a beer. Ahh...maybe this won't be so bad after all. I usually wait until I draft my kicker to drink, but one pre-draft brew can't hurt. "I don't drink at all" she says, "so I didn't know what kind of beer to get. Is O'Douls ok?" I don't have the heart to tell her it's a non-alcoholic beer, so I just pass and take her up on a cup of coffee. "It's sugar-maple decaf". Hmm...I go with ice-water.

Next my wife and I are going over the draft format when the Commish mentions, "I don't like those serpentine drafts. If there are 12 teams the 1st team has to wait over 20 picks before they get another chance and they miss out on all those players." At this pont I am unable to keep my mouth shut. "Well having a Larry Johnson or LT2 more than makes up for the wait, and then you are also the first team to pick your 3rd player. The huge advantage of picking first is balanced by picking last in the next round. Plus, there are only 8-teams in this league." "Well, I figured out a way so everyone only waits 8 picks before they pick again", she replies. Here is the draft order she came up with...Round 1: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 Round 2: 8-1-2-3-4-5-6-7 Round 3: 7-8-1-2-3-4-5-6 etc. Even my wife had to pipe in..."So team seven gets screwed", she says. The final word was simply, "Well we're not doing this the man's way".

OK. I'm a guest here and I'm going to smile and shut up now. Of course we get Team 7 in the draft order and I just keep the smile glued to my face and get ready to help my wife have the best draft possible. At this point I felt like the guy in the Bud-Light commercial with the helmet and goggles on who has a talk with his girlfriend about their relationship.

The league starts 1QB/2RB/2WR/TE/K/D. Rounds 1-2-3 we take Rudi J., Larry Fitz and Edgerrin James. OK off to a good start. Typical guppie draft with QBs and big-names flying off the board quickly. Round 4 LaMont Jordan is sitting there...great!

Round 5...Roy Williams.

Round 6...Donald Driver.

Round 7...Reggie Bush.

Round 8...Jake Plummer (backup QBs were going at this point)

Round 9...Steve McNair

Round 10...Ben Watson

Round 11...Terry Glenn

Round 12...Baltimore D

Round 13...Chris Cooley

Round 14...Giants D

Round 15...Terrell Owens...yes, they had all decided he was a big doo-doo-head and they wouldn't touch him with a 10-foot pole. Fortunately I was able to convince my wife by whispering, "You don't get points off for character...do want these people's money or not?" in between every round and I finally broke her.

Round 16...Josh Brown.

Round 17...DeAngelo Williams

An evening to remember for sure. They were all very kind and personable people, but in the context of a FF $$$ draft it took on a very surreal atmosphere and reminded me that FF sharks in the real world are much more rare than they are in these forums.

Are you sure??? What are the scoring rules???

 

[DoubleG]

comprised primarily of Catholic school teachers

Now, first I will admit I know as much about Catholic school teachers as I do about dating Jessica Alba. Having done neither, I will go on assumptions...

Interesting syntax.

 

[Mmen of Steel]

:IBTL:

Again, Z-dog, if you have a problem, state it.You add no value here. Go away.

 

[Brassmonkey71]

Is your wife hot?

 

[FBGirl79]

Congratulations, you just ripped off a bunch of catholic school teachers. I wouldn't be using the word hell lightly if I were you.

My wife is one of those teachers...and she made all the picks except for when I convinced her to take T.O.. All I did was tell her to hold off on a few players if I thought they would be around later. As I mentioned before, they were all great people, funny, and they even let the expletives fly when it was called for. As far as a previous comment about FBG sexists, I never said any of these people were poor drafters because they were not men. It's something they do for fun although there is money involved, and the two men that were there made as many poor picks. We play for fun as well...we just spend more time researching it than the average league member there. My intention here is not to ridicule anyone...my wife and I just thought the whole experience with the beverages etc. was amusing...that's all. We all know that there is nothing sexist about the culture surrounding the NFL anyways.

I like that more women are getting into FF. This is my first year playing and I'm in a league with 9 guys from work, my girl friends want nothing to do with it but I've been a big time football fan for years so I thought I would give it a shot and now I'm hooked. It's going to be a beautiful thing to watch them get beat by a girl

 

[PudgieYngwie]

Congratulations, you just ripped off a bunch of catholic school teachers. I wouldn't be using the word hell lightly if I were you.

My wife is one of those teachers...and she made all the picks except for when I convinced her to take T.O.. All I did was tell her to hold off on a few players if I thought they would be around later. As I mentioned before, they were all great people, funny, and they even let the expletives fly when it was called for. As far as a previous comment about FBG sexists, I never said any of these people were poor drafters because they were not men. It's something they do for fun although there is money involved, and the two men that were there made as many poor picks. We play for fun as well...we just spend more time researching it than the average league member there. My intention here is not to ridicule anyone...my wife and I just thought the whole experience with the beverages etc. was amusing...that's all. We all know that there is nothing sexist about the culture surrounding the NFL anyways.

My thoughts exactly. Some of the replies I see are questionable, but the original post is just a funny story about a shark out of water...and out of beer and coffee.

 

[pettifogger]

Thanks for the story. It was a great read.

 

[SSOG]

Upon arrival, the hostess and league commissioner offers me a beer. Ahh...maybe this won't be so bad after all. I usually wait until I draft my kicker to drink, but one pre-draft brew can't hurt. "I don't drink at all" she says, "so I didn't know what kind of beer to get. Is O'Douls ok?"

That's solid gold.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

You helped her way too much.

OMG, my wife (AND ME) won a fantasy football league. We're so good!

 

[jplvr]

Bored at work, thought I'd give the Shark Pool another shot as I usually steer clear of this crap.

6 threads from the top of the first page... I'm going to go see if I can find some crap in the FFA.

 

[FoolishRufus]

You helped her way too much.OMG, my wife (AND ME) won a fantasy football league. We're so good!

Really? Didn't sound to me like he was bragging and didn't sound like he helped that much. Luck plays a much bigger role in an 8-team league so winning with his draft is far from definite. I've been to drafts before where there were husband/wife teams. Not unusual for those of us with healthy marriages who want to share our hobbies. I guess it's too much to ask to share a draft story w/o being attacked. There's enough "please look at my awesome draft' posts on here...IMHO this is not one of those.

 

[incubus0]

Funny story, thanks for posting it. Just to help the imagination along, were they all wearing plad skirts, white dress shirts tied in the front and patent leather shoes, or was that just you?

<--- So you know I'm kidding

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

You helped her way too much.OMG, my wife (AND ME) won a fantasy football league. We're so good!

Really? Didn't sound to me like he was bragging and didn't sound like he helped that much. Luck plays a much bigger role in an 8-team league so winning with his draft is far from definite. I've been to drafts before where there were husband/wife teams. Not unusual for those of us with healthy marriages who want to share our hobbies. I guess it's too much to ask to share a draft story w/o being attacked. There's enough "please look at my awesome draft' posts on here...IMHO this is not one of those.

"Honey, just take TO now...DO IT, I'm tellin' ya! It's the 12th round, forget the attitude, you HAVE TO!" Whatever. Telling your wife who to pick, WHATSOEVER, and coaching from the stands in a league against other women/novices is as ridiculous as it gets.The best part of that night would have been had TO gone undrafted.

 

[SSOG]

You helped her way too much.

OMG, my wife (AND ME) won a fantasy football league. We're so good!

Really? Didn't sound to me like he was bragging and didn't sound like he helped that much. Luck plays a much bigger role in an 8-team league so winning with his draft is far from definite. I've been to drafts before where there were husband/wife teams. Not unusual for those of us with healthy marriages who want to share our hobbies. I guess it's too much to ask to share a draft story w/o being attacked. There's enough "please look at my awesome draft' posts on here...IMHO this is not one of those.

Strongly disagreed. Luck plays a much smaller role in 8-teamers than in 12-teamers. Squads in 8-teamers have more depth and more quality on the waiver wire, so an injury doesn't hurt them as badly. If you lose a pair of studs in a 12-teamer, your season is over. If you lose them in an 8-teamer, you still have life.

 

[Steve Polychronopolous]

My wife joined her own league this year. She has a very passable knowledge of all the basic do's and don'ts, who is injury prone, stud RB and best value theory etc. She relies on me for ADP info to avoid reaches and more recent player info. so I tagged along to her draft last night. Now this is a small league (8-teams) comprised primarily of Catholic school teachers, mostly women (now I am a big fan of both those groups of people but just laying the groundwork). My first surprise was that this was a money league ($20 entry) where every trade ($5) and waiver wire transaction ($1) goes into the pot for the league champion.Upon arrival, the hostess and league commissioner offers me a beer. Ahh...maybe this won't be so bad after all. I usually wait until I draft my kicker to drink, but one pre-draft brew can't hurt. "I don't drink at all" she says, "so I didn't know what kind of beer to get. Is O'Douls ok?" I don't have the heart to tell her it's a non-alcoholic beer, so I just pass and take her up on a cup of coffee. "It's sugar-maple decaf". Hmm...I go with ice-water. Next my wife and I are going over the draft format when the Commish mentions, "I don't like those serpentine drafts. If there are 12 teams the 1st team has to wait over 20 picks before they get another chance and they miss out on all those players." At this pont I am unable to keep my mouth shut. "Well having a Larry Johnson or LT2 more than makes up for the wait, and then you are also the first team to pick your 3rd player. The huge advantage of picking first is balanced by picking last in the next round. Plus, there are only 8-teams in this league." "Well, I figured out a way so everyone only waits 8 picks before they pick again", she replies. Here is the draft order she came up with...Round 1: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 Round 2: 8-1-2-3-4-5-6-7 Round 3: 7-8-1-2-3-4-5-6 etc. Even my wife had to pipe in..."So team seven gets screwed", she says. The final word was simply, "Well we're not doing this the man's way".OK. I'm a guest here and I'm going to smile and shut up now. Of course we get Team 7 in the draft order and I just keep the smile glued to my face and get ready to help my wife have the best draft possible. At this point I felt like the guy in the Bud-Light commercial with the helmet and goggles on who has a talk with his girlfriend about their relationship. The league starts 1QB/2RB/2WR/TE/K/D. Rounds 1-2-3 we take Rudi J., Larry Fitz and Edgerrin James. OK off to a good start. Typical guppie draft with QBs and big-names flying off the board quickly. Round 4 LaMont Jordan is sitting there...great! Round 5...Roy Williams.Round 6...Donald Driver.Round 7...Reggie Bush.Round 8...Jake Plummer (backup QBs were going at this point)Round 9...Steve McNairRound 10...Ben WatsonRound 11...Terry GlennRound 12...Baltimore DRound 13...Chris CooleyRound 14...Giants DRound 15...Terrell Owens...yes, they had all decided he was a big doo-doo-head and they wouldn't touch him with a 10-foot pole. Fortunately I was able to convince my wife by whispering, "You don't get points off for character...do want these people's money or not?" in between every round and I finally broke her.Round 16...Josh Brown.Round 17...DeAngelo WilliamsAn evening to remember for sure. They were all very kind and personable people, but in the context of a FF $$$ draft it took on a very surreal atmosphere and reminded me that FF sharks in the real world are much more rare than they are in these forums.

Love the story.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Even my wife had to pipe in..."So team seven gets screwed", she says. The final word was simply, "Well we're not doing this the man's way".

Yeah!

Down with the man!

You say that they let a few expletives fly? Like...

1) Oh fiddlesticks, I wanted him!

2) Well Eunice. That pick was a load of poop

3) Oh darn, darn, darn, double darn!

4) You rotten little booger butt!

5) Oh Fudge!

 

[redman]

Was the refusal to do a serpentine draft a nod to original sin?

 

[FoolishRufus]

You helped her way too much.

OMG, my wife (AND ME) won a fantasy football league. We're so good!

Really? Didn't sound to me like he was bragging and didn't sound like he helped that much. Luck plays a much bigger role in an 8-team league so winning with his draft is far from definite. I've been to drafts before where there were husband/wife teams. Not unusual for those of us with healthy marriages who want to share our hobbies. I guess it's too much to ask to share a draft story w/o being attacked. There's enough "please look at my awesome draft' posts on here...IMHO this is not one of those.

Strongly disagreed. Luck plays a much smaller role in 8-teamers than in 12-teamers. Squads in 8-teamers have more depth and more quality on the waiver wire, so an injury doesn't hurt them as badly. If you lose a pair of studs in a 12-teamer, your season is over. If you lose them in an 8-teamer, you still have life.

Take that to the extreme though. What if you have a 2-team league? Yes luck plays a lesser role as far as injury goes but in a larger league you have tougher decisions to make since the smaller it gets the more likely you are to still get the player you decided not to pick in the previous round. In a 12-team league you better pick the right tier 2 WR since they will most likely be all gone when it gets back to you. In a smaller league you get more chances to get lucky and pick the breakout players. One of those teachers who just had their 1st FF draft and followed a magazine cheatsheet has a better chance to win the league since she most likely has starters just as studly as the others.

 

[SSOG]

You helped her way too much.

OMG, my wife (AND ME) won a fantasy football league. We're so good!

Really? Didn't sound to me like he was bragging and didn't sound like he helped that much. Luck plays a much bigger role in an 8-team league so winning with his draft is far from definite. I've been to drafts before where there were husband/wife teams. Not unusual for those of us with healthy marriages who want to share our hobbies. I guess it's too much to ask to share a draft story w/o being attacked. There's enough "please look at my awesome draft' posts on here...IMHO this is not one of those.

Strongly disagreed. Luck plays a much smaller role in 8-teamers than in 12-teamers. Squads in 8-teamers have more depth and more quality on the waiver wire, so an injury doesn't hurt them as badly. If you lose a pair of studs in a 12-teamer, your season is over. If you lose them in an 8-teamer, you still have life.

Take that to the extreme though. What if you have a 2-team league? Yes luck plays a lesser role as far as injury goes but in a larger league you have tougher decisions to make since the smaller it gets the more likely you are to still get the player you decided not to pick in the previous round. In a 12-team league you better pick the right tier 2 WR since they will most likely be all gone when it gets back to you. In a smaller league you get more chances to get lucky and pick the breakout players. One of those teachers who just had their 1st FF draft and followed a magazine cheatsheet has a better chance to win the league since she most likely has starters just as studly as the others.

Ah, but the other person has just as many increased chances to get "lucky" as you do. At that point, it comes down solely to projections- i.e. who correctly predicted more breakout candidates.Also, when last I checked, anything that involves a "decision" primarily revolves around SKILL. Your decisions may be tougher, but making the correct one is usually a skill. There's no decision involved when it comes to injury- you didn't DECIDE to have your player get injured. That's just bad luck.

 

[ExtremeFajita]

"Honey, just take TO now...DO IT, I'm tellin' ya! It's the 12th round, forget the attitude, you HAVE TO!"

Whatever. Telling your wife who to pick, WHATSOEVER, and coaching from the stands in a league against other women/novices is as ridiculous as it gets.

The best part of that night would have been had TO gone undrafted.



LOL! OK I have to take my lumps on that one. I should have kept my big mouth shut. In my defense though, these were not all novices, I wasn't the only one there with a significant other as a co-owner and the atmosphere was very open...several times people reminded someone that their pick was injured, or fell down in the depthcarts, or that they had a bye-week conflict. OK now I feel guilty. I still think it was funny though.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

"Honey, just take TO now...DO IT, I'm tellin' ya! It's the 12th round, forget the attitude, you HAVE TO!" Whatever. Telling your wife who to pick, WHATSOEVER, and coaching from the stands in a league against other women/novices is as ridiculous as it gets.The best part of that night would have been had TO gone undrafted. LOL! OK I have to take my lumps on that one. I should have kept my big mouth shut. In my defense though, these were not all novices, I wasn't the only one there with a significant other as a co-owner and the atmosphere was very open...several times people reminded someone that their pick was injured, or fell down in the depthcarts, or that they had a bye-week conflict. OK now I feel guilty. I still think it was funny though.

Well, props to admitting it right there.

 

[FoolishRufus]

You helped her way too much.

OMG, my wife (AND ME) won a fantasy football league. We're so good!

Really? Didn't sound to me like he was bragging and didn't sound like he helped that much. Luck plays a much bigger role in an 8-team league so winning with his draft is far from definite. I've been to drafts before where there were husband/wife teams. Not unusual for those of us with healthy marriages who want to share our hobbies. I guess it's too much to ask to share a draft story w/o being attacked. There's enough "please look at my awesome draft' posts on here...IMHO this is not one of those.

Strongly disagreed. Luck plays a much smaller role in 8-teamers than in 12-teamers. Squads in 8-teamers have more depth and more quality on the waiver wire, so an injury doesn't hurt them as badly. If you lose a pair of studs in a 12-teamer, your season is over. If you lose them in an 8-teamer, you still have life.

Take that to the extreme though. What if you have a 2-team league? Yes luck plays a lesser role as far as injury goes but in a larger league you have tougher decisions to make since the smaller it gets the more likely you are to still get the player you decided not to pick in the previous round. In a 12-team league you better pick the right tier 2 WR since they will most likely be all gone when it gets back to you. In a smaller league you get more chances to get lucky and pick the breakout players. One of those teachers who just had their 1st FF draft and followed a magazine cheatsheet has a better chance to win the league since she most likely has starters just as studly as the others.

Ah, but the other person has just as many increased chances to get "lucky" as you do. At that point, it comes down solely to projections- i.e. who correctly predicted more breakout candidates.Also, when last I checked, anything that involves a "decision" primarily revolves around SKILL. Your decisions may be tougher, but making the correct one is usually a skill. There's no decision involved when it comes to injury- you didn't DECIDE to have your player get injured. That's just bad luck.

I hear you, but a decision in predicting who will score more FF points does not always involve skill. You might know more about player upside, depthcharts, injuries etc. and I might know nothing and still outscore you because I got lucky and the next player down on my cheatsheet outproduced the one you used your skill to pick. At any rate, I understand your argument but I still contend that the more skilled owners will rise to the top in larger leagues and have a greater chance of losing to the lucky novice in smaller ones.

 

[Vikes Fan]

comprised primarily of Catholic school teachers

Now, first I will admit I know as much about Catholic school teachers as I do about dating Jessica Alba. Having done neither, I will go on assumptions...

"I don't like those serpentine drafts. If there are 12 teams the 1st team has to wait over 20 picks before they get another chance and they miss out on all those players"

I would not be surprised they do not want to do a serpentine draft, isn't a snake what got them in trouble in the first place?

Upon arrival, the hostess and league commissioner offers me a beer. Ahh...maybe this won't be so bad after all. I usually wait until I draft my kicker to drink, but one pre-draft brew can't hurt. "I don't drink at all" she says, "so I didn't know what kind of beer to get. Is O'Douls ok?" I don't have the heart to tell her it's a non-alcoholic beer, so I just pass and take her up on a cup of coffee. "It's sugar-maple decaf". Hmm...I go with ice-water.

I knew there was a reason I keep a 40 under my wheelchair seat...Now, I need to know, what was the trash talk like?"Oh dear, your pick is utterly dreadful, go say the lords prayer five times""You picked Chad Johnson? I here he is a lutheran"On the upside, I'm guessing there were far less people scratching themselves at this draft than at mine.

I have to reply here. I have taught in Catholic Schools for 10 years and now worked in administration for another 2 years. Catholic School teachers are nothing like this! They are some of the most raunchy people outside of the classroom that I have ever met...and let me tell you, they like to drink too! The O'Douls thing is really funny but not the norm!Thanks for a great story! It was a fun read!