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Draft Kings Week 2 (1 Viewer)

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I know there is some discussion in the Fan Duel thread but I think since not everyone plays both, it makes sense to keep the discussions separate. And if you play both it's important to recognize that a good play at one site doesn't mean it's a good play at the other.

I'll start with some of my thoughts. In cash games I'm looking for players that I think can hit 3x value (Salary * 3 / 1000), this gives a target score of 150, which gives nice room for error to cash (you probably only need 2.5x). In GPP's I'm looking for players that can 4x value, for a target score of 200.

Some thoughts for this week:

QB:

Peyton Manning - Would need about 300/3 to hit value, but has a nice floor making him a nice option in Cash games He is a bit costly at 8.8K and I worry a little about a) this game getting out of hand and b) Manning constantly checking to run plays due to DeVito and Johnson missing from KC's line up. His high floor keeps him in play as I see Denver putting up 35 on KC.

Andrew Luck - Expect him to be pretty highly owned going against a suspect Philly D. Not to mention he's on MNF so that'll probably bump his ownership up a tad. Indy's run game is not great and Philly actually does have the players capable of bottling up the run, this will lead Luck to a nice volume of pass attempts. Thanks to value added with legs, he can probably hit value with a 300/2 game. I think he makes a nice play in both Cash and GPP, but be aware of high ownership.

Drew Brees - Slightly cheaper than Luck, I think he makes a decent alternate. He goes against a Cleveland defense that offers very little in terms of pass rushing ability and I have New Orleans ranked 2nd in pass protection. That should leave Brees all day to find his targets. Vegas has them expected to score about 27 points. He won't run so he'll need to throw for a bit more yardage than Luck to hit value. I know Brees has some pretty big home/away splits but if you give Brees enough time, he'll put up stats anywhere.

Matt Ryan - Cincy has a pretty well rounded secondary, although I still see Ryan, Jones, and White all getting decent numbers this week. He offers a decent floor, but I think his upside is limited. Vegas only has Atlanta scoring about 21 points. Without rushing stats he'd need to get 325/2 or 300/3 to reach 3x Value.

Aaron Rodgers - It's not often you'll find Rodgers this cheap. His price is deflated after putting up subpar numbers against Seattle. He goes against a hurting secondary and a pass rushers that I have ranked toward the bottom of the league. The Jets defensive strength is stopping the run, which means we should see a heavy dose of Rodgers. If he can get you 20 yards rushing, he'd only need 300/2 to reach 3x Value.

Andy Dalton - Again I see Dalton having all day to throw. Atlanta is sub par in pash rushing ability Cincy's pass protection is very good, they didn't allow Dalton to get hit last week let alone sacked. Without any rushing stats you'd need 300/2 to get to 3x Value. Keep an eye on A.J. Greens health.

Russell Wilson - At only 7.1K, he doesn't need much to hit value. He usually adds 30 yards rushing, which puts the 3x Value mark at 250/2 passing. Palmer put up excellent numbers against SD's secondary. SD can put some pressure on the QB, which may lead to Wilson having to leave the pocket and ultimately end up with some more rushing yards.

Ryan Fitzpatrick - A punt option at 5K. 275/1 or 150/2 will get to 3x value, both doable, however Houston has shown they are a run first, second and third team, and I think in this match up they have a big advantage running the ball. I wouldn't be shocked too FItzpatrick hit value, but I think he should be limited to GPP teams.

Honorable Mentions

Matthew Stafford 8.3K - Carolinas defensive strength is run defense. Stafford is a volume pass and I can see him hitting value, but like others better.

Nick Foles 8.1K - This the cost is a little high. He hasn't looked sharp and this is a run first team. Will be involved in a high scoring game most likely, but rather spend up and get Luck.

Colin Kaepernick - Came out sharp last week, but what got lost in that game is that SF's offense did next to nothing after the first quarter. Concerned a little and think Rodgers at the same price is the better play.

Jay Cutler - I actually like the matchup against SF, but am concerned about the health of Marshall and Jeffery

Jake Locker 7.1 - He's interesting but I think a lot of people will have him on their team. Not saying he'll disappoint, but I think Dallas' defense is equally bad in pass and run game and if given the choice Fisher would prefer to run the ball. I can't blame you for taking a chance here, but I think he's too risky for a cash game and will be too highly owned for a GPP.

Will post later some RB/WR and TE thoughts.

 
Some thoughts on RB:

Matt Forte - SF's defense is battered, injuries and suspensions have left this team as just an average defense imo, especially their run defense. Murray ran all over them last week and could have had an even bigger day if early turnovers didn't Dallas in such a huge deficit. Dallas was moving the ball on them, but Romo made 4 mental mistakes by my count. That said, make no mistake the Chicago offense is centered around Forte and he has a plus match up here. Forte also makes a nice play due to the PPR format, making him a high floor player who will be involved in the game no matter what the score is. Assuming 5 receptions, he'll probably need a TD to secure 3x value, but he has such a high floor he makes a great cash game play for 8K

Adrian Peterson - 7.4 K The only real knock on Peterson is that he isn't too involved in the passing game. But he draws a nice matchup against an overrated Patriot defense, and I have Minnesota as the 2nd best run blocking team. Peterson is a huge part of the offense and thus has a decent floor, and he's one of the few RB's that you can easily put up a multi-td game. Assuming 2 receptions, he'll need 100/1 to get to 3x value.

Marshawn Lynch - 7.2K A plus matchup against a SD defense, but like Peterson isn't too involved in passing game. Fairly safe play for points in cash game.

Arian Foster - 7K In line with Peterson and Lynch for a slightly cheaper price. Love the matchup against the Raiders in a game that I can see Houston consistently pounding the rock. Another with 2 TD potential.

Montee Ball - 6.8K A very interesting play as he gets to face a team missing 2 big pieces to their defense, and they are large favorites which means they could be running out the clock at the end of the game. Historically hasn't been involved in the pass game. I like the Broncos to score a bunch of points and Ball should get an opportunity or two to punch it in.

Giovani Bernard - 6.3K A very nice floor thanks to his involvement in the passing game. Due to this, he doesn't necessarily have to find the end zone to reach value. Hill is again said to be more involved in the offense, but they get to go against a defense that gave up 148 yards and 3 TD's to New Orleans last week. Also like that he became an almost automatic check-down option for Dalton last week. Wouldn't be surprised to see him get 7 or 8 receptions.

Shane Vereen - 5.9K Another player who gets a nice floor boost with his receiving ability. He only needs 18 points to reach value which is definitely doable with his pass catching, a 50/50 run share (which he had with Ridley last week) and his big play potential. I have Minnesota as the worst coverage team in terms of their front 7, which should help Vereen.

Adrian Ellington - 5.8K The foot injury looked like it was blown out of proportion last week. He looked explosive and adds a nice boost with his involvement in the passing game. He'll probably be a low owned player this week going against a Giant team that held the Lions to 76 yards on 30 carries. But the giants did allow Bush to put up 6 for 49 in the passing game, as well a rushing TD to Bell. His explosive ability makes him a high floor, high ceiling player.

Alfred Morris - 5.2K Won't get you many (any?) points in the passing game, but at his price, he may not have to. He ran for 91 yards on 14 carries against a strong run defense last week. He only needs 15.6 points to get to 3x value, and with a 3 pt bonus for breaking 100 yards, he gets very close without a TD. He also gets to face a team who I have ranked as the worst run defense.

Justin Forsett - 5K I realize he played last night, but I had him on my list, so I'll just speak briefly about him. Another player who is involved in the passing game, raising his floor. There is a bit of uncertainty involving how much of a role he'll have compared to Pierce, but I'd imagine at worst it's a 50/50 split. I can see 4 catches for him and that makes his 15 points needed as very attainable, especially if they let him handle most of the workload. It wasn't an ideal game for Forsett, but not terrible either. He got 11.2 points which isn't what we wanted but could have been better if he had gotten that TD at the end. It was very interesting to see that him and Pierce were basically alternating series with Pierce getting most of the GL work and Forsett getting 3rd downs, yet when it was Forsetts "turn" in the game, Baltimore moved almost exclusively to a passing attack.

Mark Ingram - 4.5K Limited involvement in passing game limits his ceiling, but price could be right in this situation. I wouldn't be shocked to see the Saints with a big lead and using Ingram at the end to drain the clock. They also showed last week that they have no problem running the ball into the end zone, so a TD is in play here. He's a good option if you're trying to save some cap.

Honorable Mentions:

LeSean McCoy: Pretty safe, but am concerned that the amount of touches Sproles got last week could limit his upside.

Le'Veon Bell: Don't love the matchup and think the price might be a little inflated, but can't go wrong with a bell cow who will be in the game regardless of the score and situation.

Jamaal Charles: After getting limited touches last week I think Reid makes up for it and puts the ball in his best playmaker hands as he tries to keep up with the Broncos. However, the Broncos do have a good defense and think there are better options around Charles price point.

Chris Johnson: Some involvement in the pass game and I think the Jets will be losing which I think means more Johnson and less Ivory.

Rashad Jennings: Thanks to Eli's checkdowns, as long as he's priced somewhere around the 5k he's always in play. However, I don't think this is a good matchup for him and I don't think he's overly talented.

Terrance West: Price has been moved to reflect the possibility of him starting. He didn't offer anything in the pass game and their is the question whether Crowell vultures goal line carries.

Jordan Toddman: In play if Gerhart misses the game.

Shonn Greene: Gets to play a terrible Dallas Defense and at just 3.3k he's definitely in play. He's not involved in the passing game at all though which means he has to hit 100 or get a TD to hit value. He got to play a below avg run defense last week and Tenn had the game in hand but still only gave Greene 15 of the 38 run attempts. Don't think the upside is huge.

 
I think Gio may be the no1 RB value this week. I put him in top tier of RBs this week and his price is lower than all the rest with Foster being the next cheapest at 700 more. Morris could be a great value, usage is what scares me. They should run a lot against a weaker run D but will they? Not on your list is Gerhart, it appears like he will play and could be a very nice play against a lesser run defense and he is involved in the passing game.

Another cheap option is Bradshaw. He looked better than TRich last week and this weeks game could be a shootout and Bradshaw clearly is the preferred option in the passing game.

 
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I think Gio may be the no1 RB value this week. I put him in top tier of RBs this week and his price is lower than all the rest with Foster being the next cheapest at 700 more. Morris could be a great value, usage is what scares me. They should run a lot against a weaker run D but will they? Not on your list is Gerhart, it appears like he will play and could be a very nice play against a lesser run defense and he is involved in the passing game.

Another cheap option is Bradshaw. He looked better than TRich last week and this weeks game could be a shootout and Bradshaw clearly is the preferred option in the passing game.
Agree with Gerhart, he almost made my list as an honorable mention, but am worried about the injury so I don't think he's worth it in cash games. He's definitely in play in GPP's though.

Good thought with Bradshaw

 
Nice thread, just started looking over things for this weekend. Got money at Fanduel and DraftKings. Actually liking DK more so far, like the flex and no kicker and lower min priced players,

 
Well have to make some adjustments since Peterson is no longer an option. Wouldn't touch either of the other Vikings RBs even though they are cheap options. Probably changing most of the Peterson spots I had to Foster who is 400 cheaper I believe.

 
Hello all. I've been lurking for a while and I decided to take the plunge this week. Any comments or suggestions on the following lineup? I'm going for beginner 50/50 games mostly, with maybe a few beginner H2H.

QB: P. Manning (DEN) 8.8K

RB: L. McCoy (PHI) 8.2K

RB: S. Greene (TEN) 3.3K

WR: D. Thomas (DEN 7.0K

WR: M. Colston (NO) 5.4K

WR: H. Douglas (ATL) 4.1K

WR: T.Y. Hilton (IND) 5.0K

TE: J. Witten (DAL) 3.8K

DEF: Seattle 4.1K

(Remaining 0.3K)

Could someone please tell me for sure if Haden (DB CLE) will be on Colston or Cooks? If somebody can tell me they are 95% sure Haden will be on Colston then I will swap out Colston for Cooks!

Thanks!

 
Would be surprised if GPP's weren't mostly all won by guys just hitting on a bunch of cheap fliers at RB.

Matt Asiata 3,000

Isaiah Crowell 3300

Shonn Greene 3300
Ahmad Bradshaw 4000
Mark Ingram 4500

All of these guys could end up with the bulk of carries (except Ingram who looks to the GL guy for NO). Makes it very easy to stack elsewhere and get reasonable returns.

WR's Colston, C. Patterson, Maclin, Reggie Wayne and Decker all seem very reasonable for the cost. Hurns, Malcom Floyd, TY Hilton and Sanu are all fliers that could have reasonable weekends.
 
A lot of good cheap options at RB due to injuries and opportunity. Here are a few with Draft Kings salary and Fantasy Pros PPR ranking- using updated projections entered 9-13-14

Stewart- $3,000 #42

Asiata- $3,000 #31

McFadden- $3,000 #35

Bradshaw- $4,000 #38

West- $4,800 #23

IMO Asiata is the best play in daily games with salary factored in and West the safest play

Bradshaw may be the swing for the fences pick in PPR with the Colts in a shootout with Philly

 
A lot of good cheap options at RB due to injuries and opportunity. Here are a few with Draft Kings salary and Fantasy Pros PPR ranking- using updated projections entered 9-13-14

Stewart- $3,000 #42

Asiata- $3,000 #31

McFadden- $3,000 #35

Bradshaw- $4,000 #38

West- $4,800 #23

IMO Asiata is the best play in daily games with salary factored in and West the safest play

Throw Greene in at 3300. I think Aiata is the best play in 50/50 while Bradshaw might have the most upside in GPP.

Bradshaw may be the swing for the fences pick in PPR with the Colts in a shootout with Philly
 
My TE and RB pick are doing well. Bernard, Morris, Asainte, Graham

WR Picks sucking: Hunter, Hawkins

QB and DT and other WRs yet to come

 
I ought to try a Draft Kings lineup on a Sunday sometime as I've only been playing games that lock rosters before Thursday.

Worked out well for me this week at least.

Ran with all of Tremblay's consensus picks except for Cameron (whose status was shaky) - Luck, Bernard, Bell, Nelson, D. Thomas, Bucs.

Subbed in Walker due to the sweet Dallas matchup, fine-tuned a bit with my surplus salary to get Sanu in my lineup and I'm already sitting pretty in the money with Luck on deck tomorrow night to make a run for 1st place out of my group of 48 (top 5 is pretty much a foregone conclusion). And that's with swinging and missing on Robert Woods.

 
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