Draft spot number 4 (1 Viewer)

[easy like sunday morning]

My league drafts Sept. 2

Today the draft order was set randomly. I ended up wth the 4th pick. Our league awards 1pt/reception. That seems to put with Tiki, Portis, or Ronnie Brown. I just can't seem to get that excited about them. The biggest reason I don't like it is due to the fact that our league is 12 teams and by the time I draft again the players I am looking at aren't all that exciting for 2nd round picks.

Am I missing something? Anyone have words of wisdom that should make me look at the 4 spot in a better light?

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

draft Adam Vinatieri !

 

[MLBrandow]

Portis for sure.

Laugh @ RB.

 

[Slinger]

Am I missing something? Anyone have words of wisdom that should make me look at the 4 spot in a better light?

Pick wisely with all your picks. Whoever you pick at number 4 will be a good player.

 

[Pots]

Sure.

1650/11 53/550/2

Tiki Barber's average lstats last 2 years.

2000 total yards, 50 catches, and 10 TDs = 310 FPs

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

I got the 4-hole, but we are able to choose, in that order, what spots we want (that are open). 1,2,3 took those same spots. With the rest of the board open, I moved to 10. So, I agree with you. If not at the top, I'd rather be towards the bottom.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Sure.1650/11 53/550/2Tiki Barber's average lstats last 2 years.2000 total yards, 50 catches, and 10 TDs = 310 FPs

That's great, but we know. The feeling is that he won't repeat that. Age or whatever, but clearly people are skeptical.

 

[MLBrandow]

Sure.1650/11 53/550/2Tiki Barber's average lstats last 2 years.2000 total yards, 50 catches, and 10 TDs = 310 FPs

That's great, but we know. The feeling is that he won't repeat that. Age or whatever, but clearly people are skeptical.

People are dumb. He has significantly less mileage than his similarly-age counterparts.He can/should/will clone his averages.That said, Portis is simply a better option.

 

[easy like sunday morning]

Sure.1650/11 53/550/2Tiki Barber's average lstats last 2 years.2000 total yards, 50 catches, and 10 TDs = 310 FPs

That's great, but we know. The feeling is that he won't repeat that. Age or whatever, but clearly people are skeptical.

That is exactly my problem and the reason I am leaning towards Portis. There was news today that he is going to get involved in the passing game more. In a 1pt/reception league I need him to if I take him.

 

[jurb26]

You have the best spot in all of the draft. You can take Portis (the best RB in FF this year ) and then follow it up with Moss or another stud WR easily.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Sure.1650/11 53/550/2Tiki Barber's average lstats last 2 years.2000 total yards, 50 catches, and 10 TDs = 310 FPs

That's great, but we know. The feeling is that he won't repeat that. Age or whatever, but clearly people are skeptical.

People are dumb. He has significantly less mileage than his similarly-age counterparts.He can/should/will clone his averages.That said, Portis is simply a better option.

That's fine. I'm just saying why there is some skepticism. There is also (for some reason) always been this notion that Barber isn't "for real", if you know what I mean. That he is very good, but not elite. I think that comes from watching him. He's not exactly electrifying like other top backs, but whatever.For Barber fans, all the above is great. Value.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Hey, let's do this.

Name your preferential draft order. I'll start:

3, 2, 1, 10, 9, 8, 4, 11, 12, 7, 6, 5

 

[-OZ-]

Hey, let's do this.

Name your preferential draft order. I'll start:

3, 2, 1, 10, 9, 8, 4, 11, 12, 7, 6, 5

I'm interested in seeing why you prefer 10,9,8 to 4.I'd probably go

2, 1, 3, 4, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 12, 11

I like 4, but then, I'm looking to a big year from Portis.

 

[Sea Bass]

Take Portis, Although there is an outside chance that one of the big three drops to you.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

I'd take Portis at the 4 spot as well and I also feel anyone moving out of the top 5 spots this year would be making a big mistake. I feel the top 5 picks this year are very clear and you can't go wrong with any of them. I was originally skeptical a couple of weeks ago when I selected the 5 spot for my draft, but after careful analysis I couldn't be more happy having either Tiki or Portis after the big 3.

It will fall this way:

1a) LT

1b) Alexander

1c) LJ

2) Portis

3) Tiki

At the 4 and 5 spot you are getting consistently proven fantasy players with an extremely low level of bust potential. Anyone should be happy with a top 5 pick this season. These guys have the least question marks out of any of the other RB's behind them. Take one of these guys and be happy.

 

[MLBrandow]

Take Portis, Although there is an outside chance that one of the big three drops to you.

You can have SA and his tier-2 RB1 production this year.Give me LJ/Portis/LT/Tiki/Cadillac

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Hey, let's do this.

Name your preferential draft order. I'll start:

3, 2, 1, 10, 9, 8, 4, 11, 12, 7, 6, 5

I'm interested in seeing why you prefer 10,9,8 to 4.I'd probably go

2, 1, 3, 4, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 12, 11

I like 4, but then, I'm looking to a big year from Portis.

Because I don't see a huge difference in that second tier of backs. I'll take most any, and on the way back I get the best of the WR's, or even Manning or Gates. Keep in mind, the league I'm in is 1 PPR, and a whopping 2 for TE's, thus the Gates STRONG consideration.

 

[-OZ-]

Hey, let's do this.

Name your preferential draft order. I'll start:

3, 2, 1, 10, 9, 8, 4, 11, 12, 7, 6, 5

I'm interested in seeing why you prefer 10,9,8 to 4.I'd probably go

2, 1, 3, 4, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 12, 11

I like 4, but then, I'm looking to a big year from Portis.

Because I don't see a huge difference in that second tier of backs. I'll take most any, and on the way back I get the best of the WR's, or even Manning or Gates. Keep in mind, the league I'm in is 1 PPR, and a whopping 2 for TE's, thus the Gates STRONG consideration.

That makes sense, although I'd be surprised to see Gates going before pick #21 in almost all leagues, leaving you with Portis, Gates and perhaps a RB2 like Droughns or Jamal Lewis. If your league habitually takes TEs higher, that changes things.

 

[Post Corner]

There's no "feel" about it. It is bad. After the big 3, you get to guess who will be next. Trade down. I love Ronnie Brown, but too high at 4. Don't know if I am sold on Portis hype.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

There's no "feel" about it. It is bad. After the big 3, you get to guess who will be next. Trade down.

Great in theory, but who would trade up to 4?

 

[jurb26]

There's no "feel" about it. It is bad. After the big 3, you get to guess who will be next. Trade down.

Great in theory, but who would trade up to 4?

Anyone who wants Portis or Barber, so pretty much everyone.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

There's no "feel" about it. It is bad. After the big 3, you get to guess who will be next. Trade down.

Great in theory, but who would trade up to 4?

Anyone who wants Portis or Barber, so pretty much everyone.

I couldn't agree more.Why is everyone afraid of consistent fantasy producers? Take Portis and Tiki in 4 and 5 and be happy you were in that slot. These guys have as little question marks as the big 3 of producing numbers similiar to last season. Sometimes people over analize these picks. Take them and be happy.

 

[wannabee]

There's no "feel" about it. It is bad. After the big 3, you get to guess who will be next. Trade down.

Great in theory, but who would trade up to 4?

Anyone who wants Portis or Barber, so pretty much everyone.

I couldn't agree more.Why is everyone afraid of consistent fantasy producers? Take Portis and Tiki in 4 and 5 and be happy you were in that slot. These guys have as little question marks as the big 3 of producing numbers similiar to last season. Sometimes people over analize these picks. Take them and be happy.

I think 6 is the spot I do not want

 

[Routilla]

There's no "feel" about it. It is bad. After the big 3, you get to guess who will be next. Trade down.

Great in theory, but who would trade up to 4?

One of the Portis believers perhaps? Maybe you should check with the top 3 guys and see if they want to trade down as well. I'd rather have any of the top 3 instead of drafting 4th if at all possible.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Hey, let's do this.

Name your preferential draft order. I'll start:

3, 2, 1, 10, 9, 8, 4, 11, 12, 7, 6, 5

I'm interested in seeing why you prefer 10,9,8 to 4.I'd probably go

2, 1, 3, 4, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 12, 11

I like 4, but then, I'm looking to a big year from Portis.

Because I don't see a huge difference in that second tier of backs. I'll take most any, and on the way back I get the best of the WR's, or even Manning or Gates. Keep in mind, the league I'm in is 1 PPR, and a whopping 2 for TE's, thus the Gates STRONG consideration.

That makes sense, although I'd be surprised to see Gates going before pick #21 in almost all leagues, leaving you with Portis, Gates and perhaps a RB2 like Droughns or Jamal Lewis. If your league habitually takes TEs higher, that changes things.

Do you realize how big 2pts per reception is for Gates? He will outscore the top WR, and destroy the rest of the TE's...and that's on the LOW projection side. It sounds nuts, but the numbers say otherwise, plain and simple.

 

[stealthrunner]

All of the Portis hype is pushing me away from him. He has been disappointing, at least slow starts, the last two seasons. I am just going off memory, too late to look up stats. I know there is a new coach and system that is supposed to be better than him, but with all the hype, watch out. Just my gut feeling.

 

[tribecalledjeff]

All of the Portis hype is pushing me away from him. He has been disappointing, at least slow starts, the last two seasons. I am just going off memory, too late to look up stats. I know there is a new coach and system that is supposed to be better than him, but with all the hype, watch out. Just my gut feeling.

i don't know where to start with this one...

 

[Pick]

All of the Portis hype is pushing me away from him. He has been disappointing, at least slow starts, the last two seasons. I am just going off memory, too late to look up stats. I know there is a new coach and system that is supposed to be better than him, but with all the hype, watch out. Just my gut feeling.

There's a reason for the hype. Portis has been one of the more consistent backs lately. And prolly the best bet to break into that top-3.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

All of the Portis hype is pushing me away from him. He has been disappointing, at least slow starts, the last two seasons. I am just going off memory, too late to look up stats. I know there is a new coach and system that is supposed to be better than him, but with all the hype, watch out. Just my gut feeling.

i don't know where to start with this one...

Probably just leave it as is.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

All of the Portis hype is pushing me away from him. He has been disappointing, at least slow starts, the last two seasons. I am just going off memory, too late to look up stats. I know there is a new coach and system that is supposed to be better than him, but with all the hype, watch out. Just my gut feeling.

He finished 6th in FBGs scoring among RBs last season, I believe. On paper, just about every condition for him has improved. Is it such a stretch for him to be considered at #4 or #5 this season?

 

[Post Corner]

Great in theory, but who would trade up to 4?

Just keep hoping Portis hype keeps flowing out of DC. Should take care of itself for you and allow you to trade down.

 

[easy like sunday morning]

Hey, let's do this.

Name your preferential draft order. I'll start:

3, 2, 1, 10, 9, 8, 4, 11, 12, 7, 6, 5

I'm interested in seeing why you prefer 10,9,8 to 4.I'd probably go

2, 1, 3, 4, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 12, 11

I like 4, but then, I'm looking to a big year from Portis.

Because I don't see a huge difference in that second tier of backs. I'll take most any, and on the way back I get the best of the WR's, or even Manning or Gates. Keep in mind, the league I'm in is 1 PPR, and a whopping 2 for TE's, thus the Gates STRONG consideration.

That makes sense, although I'd be surprised to see Gates going before pick #21 in almost all leagues, leaving you with Portis, Gates and perhaps a RB2 like Droughns or Jamal Lewis. If your league habitually takes TEs higher, that changes things.

Do you realize how big 2pts per reception is for Gates? He will outscore the top WR, and destroy the rest of the TE's...and that's on the LOW projection side. It sounds nuts, but the numbers say otherwise, plain and simple.

I'm not sure I understand the theory behind giving TE's 2pts/reception. Gates is really important to his team but I'm not sure he is the most important pass catching individual in the league. Why make the TE so important?

 

[djcolts]

If I get 1-5 or 9-10, I'm OK with that. If I get 6, 7 or 8, I'm going to try like heck to trade down.

My preferences (from best to worst): 3, 2, 1, 5, 4, 10, 9, 6, 8, 7 (6 is ahead of 8 or 7 in case someone screws up in the first 5 picks).

 

[Godsbrother]

I got #1. Now I have to decide on LJ, LT2, or SA. It is NOT an easy choice.

 

[easy like sunday morning]

I got #1. Now I have to decide on LJ, LT2, or SA. It is NOT an easy choice.

Now that LJ lost his top lineman this is a more difficult decision. I would go with LT2 in a ppr.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

I got #1. Now I have to decide on LJ, LT2, or SA. It is NOT an easy choice.

Same boat here. Except that I'm muddying the waters even more by adding Portis to that group.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Hey, let's do this.

Name your preferential draft order. I'll start:

3, 2, 1, 10, 9, 8, 4, 11, 12, 7, 6, 5

I'm interested in seeing why you prefer 10,9,8 to 4.I'd probably go

2, 1, 3, 4, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 12, 11

I like 4, but then, I'm looking to a big year from Portis.

Because I don't see a huge difference in that second tier of backs. I'll take most any, and on the way back I get the best of the WR's, or even Manning or Gates. Keep in mind, the league I'm in is 1 PPR, and a whopping 2 for TE's, thus the Gates STRONG consideration.

That makes sense, although I'd be surprised to see Gates going before pick #21 in almost all leagues, leaving you with Portis, Gates and perhaps a RB2 like Droughns or Jamal Lewis. If your league habitually takes TEs higher, that changes things.

Do you realize how big 2pts per reception is for Gates? He will outscore the top WR, and destroy the rest of the TE's...and that's on the LOW projection side. It sounds nuts, but the numbers say otherwise, plain and simple.

I'm not sure I understand the theory behind giving TE's 2pts/reception. Gates is really important to his team but I'm not sure he is the most important pass catching individual in the league. Why make the TE so important?

I completely agree, and will lobby against it.

 

[HULLOBUDMAN]

Hey, let's do this.

Name your preferential draft order. I'll start:

3, 2, 1, 10, 9, 8, 4, 11, 12, 7, 6, 5

I'm interested in seeing why you prefer 10,9,8 to 4.I'd probably go

2, 1, 3, 4, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 12, 11

I like 4, but then, I'm looking to a big year from Portis.

Because I don't see a huge difference in that second tier of backs. I'll take most any, and on the way back I get the best of the WR's, or even Manning or Gates. Keep in mind, the league I'm in is 1 PPR, and a whopping 2 for TE's, thus the Gates STRONG consideration.

That makes sense, although I'd be surprised to see Gates going before pick #21 in almost all leagues, leaving you with Portis, Gates and perhaps a RB2 like Droughns or Jamal Lewis. If your league habitually takes TEs higher, that changes things.

Do you realize how big 2pts per reception is for Gates? He will outscore the top WR, and destroy the rest of the TE's...and that's on the LOW projection side. It sounds nuts, but the numbers say otherwise, plain and simple.

I'm not sure I understand the theory behind giving TE's 2pts/reception. Gates is really important to his team but I'm not sure he is the most important pass catching individual in the league. Why make the TE so important?

I completely agree, and will lobby against it.

In our league we did this to devalue running backs so every draft is not the same. You know, we all have been in them, 18 of the first 24 picks are runningbacks. We even reduced our starting requirements to 1 RB, 2 wr and 1 flex that can consist of RB,WR,TE. If nothing else the draft is more interesting.

 

[Wingnut]

I got #1. Now I have to decide on LJ, LT2, or SA. It is NOT an easy choice.

Same boat here. Except that I'm muddying the waters even more by adding Portis to that group.

I traded down to pick 3, and may trade down one more spot on draft day and take whoever's left of the Big 4.

 

[doughboydeluxe]

Take Portis, Although there is an outside chance that one of the big three drops to you.

You can have SA and his tier-2 RB1 production this year.Give me LJ/Portis/LT/Tiki/Cadillac

Don't mean to hijack, but... just wondering why you include Caddy in your top 5 RB but laugh at putting Ronnie Brown there.

 

[Unlucky]

Portis is the #2 RB on my board, and he's just barely behind LJ.

#4 is the BEST spot to draft this year, IMO, assuming Portis falls to you there.

Quick, name the RBs that Al Saunders has coached the past 6 years. Here, let me help you: Marshall Faulk (99-00), Priest Holmes (01-04), and Larry Johnson (02-04). Seems to me those guys put up OK numbers.

 

[easy like sunday morning]

Take Portis, Although there is an outside chance that one of the big three drops to you.

You can have SA and his tier-2 RB1 production this year.Give me LJ/Portis/LT/Tiki/Cadillac

Don't mean to hijack, but... just wondering why you include Caddy in your top 5 RB but laugh at putting Ronnie Brown there.

I agree. I have Brown above Caddy this year. I am having trouble trusting Caddy to stay healthy.

 

[FF for Dummies]

Take Portis and don't look back....

you won't be let down!

 

[avoiding injuries]

Hey, let's do this.

Name your preferential draft order. I'll start:

3, 2, 1, 10, 9, 8, 4, 11, 12, 7, 6, 5

Can we make this a seperate thread? I'll do it...

 

[jwvdcw]

Portis, son! You guys suck.

 

[BlueDredSo]

Portis is the #2 RB on my board, and he's just barely behind LJ. #4 is the BEST spot to draft this year, IMO, assuming Portis falls to you there.Quick, name the RBs that Al Saunders has coached the past 6 years. Here, let me help you: Marshall Faulk (99-00), Priest Holmes (01-04), and Larry Johnson (02-04). Seems to me those guys put up OK numbers.

That post right there, just convinced me that I definitely want the #4 pick this year...To me, it's such a toss-up of the top 3 that I'd rather take Portis and hope that he finishes top 3. Makes sense, right? Or am I for not wanting LJ, LT2, or SA???

 

[Warpig]

I would be more than happy with Portis or Tiki (preferably Portis).

Or you can throw your sack out on the table and take Peyton Manning!

 

[Mungo Burrows]

I would be more than happy with Portis or Tiki (preferably Portis).

Or you can throw your sack out on the table money down the drain and take Peyton Manning!

fixed

 

[Mmen of Steel]

I would be more than happy with Portis or Tiki (preferably Portis).

Or you can throw your sack out on the table money down the drain and take Peyton Manning!

fixed

Nope. I am sacking up and taking Manning at #4. He has carried my team for the past 2 years (1 championship, 1 regular-season champ).Granted our scoring is waaaay different. Buku bonus points are given for 20, 30 and 40+ yard TDs.

I am hoping that Caddy, Lamont or Reuben falls to me in the late 2nd. If I can pair one of those

guys with a Jamal Lewis or a Chester Taylor I will be happy.

 

[tangfoot]

Buku bonus points are given for 20, 30 and 40+ yard TDs.

French major?