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Chaos Commish!)
If it's non-ppr, I think I'd go RB-RB-WR. WR's in the third that would be good #1's if you get good RB's with the first two are guys like Lee Evans, Javon Walker, Donald Driver, Houshmandzadeh, and Colston.
Maybe its just me
It's theoretical that ANY player can bust, so I don't really draft with that in mind.I view my first three picks as the "core" of my team and therefore I try and maximize my value for a trio rather than thinking about the best value at the particular slot.That's why I think, in general, summing up a first three trio of RB-RB-WR is almost always going to get you a better total week in/week out than a combination of RB-WR-RB, WR-RB-RB, RB-WR-WR, or RB-WR-QB. (In non-PPR that is.)
I just used his name as someone that is going in about that spot in drafts. In my eyes, the Skeletor factor is just something I wouldn't be able to swallow for an entire season - especially if it's involving my first round pick. The #9 spot is tough though since all the "for sure" guys are likely gone, although it is possible that Alexander could slide to that spot. I'd personally probably go Parker or Westbrook before Henry.I also don't understand all the Henry love around here.
Dude. You nailed it. Good job.
I'm giving way too much away here, but at the 2.04 spot, I'm praying to the fantasy gods that Portis is available.
in non ppr leagues I always go rb-rb myself, they are just so valuable with no ppr and just seem way more consistent than even the top wr's. Maybe you get lucky and pick the #1 wide out maybe you don't, but I like the wr's available in the 3rd/4th better than the rb's available, I just don't see a whole lot of td's out of guys in that range.Is going RB/RB just a way of protecting yourself from the potential of a 1st round bust or is it going after actual value? If you go RB/WR and your RB busts......it will be tough going. I also don't understand all the Henry love around here.Maybe its just me
Yup. Especially the bolded.in non ppr leagues I always go rb-rb myself, they are just so valuable with no ppr and just seem way more consistent than even the top wr's. Maybe you get lucky and pick the #1 wide out maybe you don't, but I like the wr's available in the 3rd/4th better than the rb's available, I just don't see a whole lot of td's out of guys in that range.Is going RB/RB just a way of protecting yourself from the potential of a 1st round bust or is it going after actual value? If you go RB/WR and your RB busts......it will be tough going. I also don't understand all the Henry love around here.Maybe its just me
I have a feeling that as we get closer to the season Portis will begin to move up the ADP ranks. Currently he is RB#16 but I see him actually creeping into the first round at 1.12. IMO he is much more solid than some of the RBBC backs going before him.Dude. You nailed it. Good job.I'm giving way too much away here, but at the 2.04 spot, I'm praying to the fantasy gods that Portis is available.
A trio of Parker/Portis/Evans would make me very happy.
I agree with that. As the preseason progresses, the liklihood of getting Portis in the 2nd will decrease, IMO.I have a feeling that as we get closer to the season Portis will begin to move up the ADP ranks. Currently he is RB#16 but I see him actually creeping into the first round at 1.12. IMO he is much more solid than some of the RBBC backs going before him.Dude. You nailed it. Good job.
A trio of Parker/Portis/Evans would make me very happy.
Depends on your stomach for risk. Of the players you have listed, I agree in general, but I think I'd roll the dice with McGahee in the 2nd - even ahead of the WRs.
Are you sure about that? People usually do go by what the experts say and almost all of them (including Football Guys) are not that high on him. I'm not debating whether they should or shouldn't be but from everything I've read Clinton Portis has become an injury prone who is in a RBBC with Ladell Betts.Unless he goes balls out in the preseason I don't see him rising that high in drafts. Considering what happened last preseason when he separated his shoulder I can see Gibbs playing Portis very little in exhibition games. Clinton Portis getting drafted in the first round will be the exception not the rule.I have a feeling that as we get closer to the season Portis will begin to move up the ADP ranks. Currently he is RB#16 but I see him actually creeping into the first round at 1.12. IMO he is much more solid than some of the RBBC backs going before him.Dude. You nailed it. Good job.
A trio of Parker/Portis/Evans would make me very happy.
this is very true but picking at number 9 you should be able to land a good one in round 2, I don't like being the very first guy to pick a wide out myself. If I had Jackson or LT I could see myself waiting a little longer for my rb#2 possibly. Picking 8th in a recent draft non ppr I went with westbrook and portis to start out, like others have said not sure if portis would have been there a month from now. Mcghee, jones-drew and benson were the next three taken in that round.
I dunno. 2.04 seems WAY too high for me for MJD. Maybe I'm sleeping on him a bit.
in wcoff he went on the turn before he fell to me. his wcoff adp is 2.07, so at 2.04 it is early for ADP, but not by much and likely within reason.i'll admit he's not a steal, but in a PPR league i think he will be top 10, or close to it.
I think you got him in the right spot based on where his ADP is this year, so that's not what I'm saying.I'm just wary of him repeating last year's performance and am surprised that so many are as high on him as they are.
He's on my "let someone else risk it" list. That list also includes Tony Romo and Marques Colston.
i hear you. my projections for him are: 48 rec for 468 yards and 2 TDs, along with 233 carries for 1,071 yards and 13 TDs.now admittedly his TDs i am projecting may be high. however with Taylor at 31, the potential for MJD to be THE MAN outweighs the likelihood that his TDs will diminish by 3-4. even if i lower his TDs by 5, he is still in my top 15 for RBs. i think that is what lets me sleep at night grabbing him.with that said, if he was a complete bust i wouldn't look back and be shocked how that happened. i just like him so much better than any other RB there that it is either him or a top WR, and load up on RBs later.in the wcoff league where i didn't get MJD i got Norwood at 4.04 and JaLew at 7.09 to round out my RBs with FWP.I think you got him in the right spot based on where his ADP is this year, so that's not what I'm saying.I'm just wary of him repeating last year's performance and am surprised that so many are as high on him as they are.He's on my "let someone else risk it" list. That list also includes Tony Romo and Marques Colston.
for me it is a question of how difficult it is for RBs who are the clear cut #1 backs and how hard it is for them to do that, let alone a guy who isn't even technically the starter.however, in PPR leagues at least, you can discount that fairly well and still have him look good in the mid 2nd.i recognize the risk that is there, but i just like his upside too much backing up a 31 y/o taylor, much like i do with norwood to a lesser extent (even before the dunn news came out).i pretty much have any RB over 30 on a do not draft list and upgrade their backups significantly.
Strongly disagree here.Bigtime mistake to WR early in the 2nd round this year. There is a big dropoff from RB15ish to RB25ish. Not so big dropoff from WR1 to WR10. In a non-ppr league, I don't think WR in the early 2nd is an option.I'm in a non-PPR league with the #9 pick, soChaos Commish!)At #9, there's a lot of possibilities - Travis Henry, Willis McGahee, Willie Parker, Joe Addai, Brian Westbrook, Reggie Bush.At 2.04, I think the targets are Rudi Johnson, Laurence Maroney, or one of the top WRs remaining.
Well, fwiw in the league Andy is talking about -- non-ppr, performance -- the champion last year (and highest scoring team) went, RB, RB, TE --Portis/Chester Taylor/Gates. It was Bulger Gore and Gates who made the difference. The runner up, went WR WR. The second highest scoring teamYup. Especially the bolded.in non ppr leagues I always go rb-rb myself, they are just so valuable with no ppr and just seem way more consistent than even the top wr's. Maybe you get lucky and pick the #1 wide out maybe you don't, but I like the wr's available in the 3rd/4th better than the rb's available, I just don't see a whole lot of td's out of guys in that range.Is going RB/RB just a way of protecting yourself from the potential of a 1st round bust or is it going after actual value? If you go RB/WR and your RB busts......it will be tough going. I also don't understand all the Henry love around here.Maybe its just me
went RB, WR, WR.
Um. I said the first option was to go RB, so I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with.WR is worst case scenario if all of the RB's (I missed Portis too) are gone by the time it gets to 2.04.Strongly disagree here.Bigtime mistake to WR early in the 2nd round this year. There is a big dropoff from RB15ish to RB25ish. Not so big dropoff from WR1 to WR10. In a non-ppr league, I don't think WR in the early 2nd is an option.I'm in a non-PPR league with the #9 pick, so(
It's the amount of touchdowns based on the # of touches he had. I do not know what the actual percentage was but I do know it was extremely high (one of the highest ever, i believe) and for him to repeat touchdowns at that rate is unlikely.
That's what I don't get. Why is it so unlikely? The fact that he was so productive while touching the ball so few times should be encouraging and not discouraging. I mean seriously. He was a stud in every sense of the word last season. He put up 1500 yards and 15 touchdowns in essentially 14 games (they didn't use him the first 2 weeks). Now I'm supposed to be down on him because of his greatness? No sir. If I can get him in the second round I'm doing cartwheels. And that's with Fred Taylor healthy.
Jones-Drew HighlightsHe is pretty amazing if you watch.......I think Jax would be stupid not to get him the ball more! I will be pissed if I pass him up and he does even better
Does the recent news of his further knee problems worry you? Would you rather go for someone like MJD, Ronnie Brown, McGahee or Benson who are not injured going into the season?Dude. You nailed it. Good job.
A trio of Parker/Portis/Evans would make me very happy.
At this point there is no way Westbrook or Parker are there. Consider yourself lucky if Westbrook is there and then do some backflips as you call out his name. Reaching?
Oh, I thought you meant YOU would be reaching to take Westbrook at 1.09. I understand now.
Gracias! This pains me to read. I really like Portis and have been a fan of his talent back to his U of Miami days. I was really thinking that he was going to be one of those 2nd round players that could win a championship for your squad but the continued news of his knee is not good.Sorry to hijack
