Drew Brees is Ridiculous Good (1 Viewer)

[JMJ]

Its becoming more and more apparant that Drew Brees is the #2 QB in fantasy this year. Just yesterday in a different thread I agreed that Carson Palmer was the clear cut #2 but Brees is just lights out both last year and carrying into this year.

Drew Brees' statistics through 3 preseason games thus far:

Game 1

17/19 - 182 yards - 1 TD

Game 2

6/6 - 55 yards

Game 3

12/14 - 118 yards

Let me do the math for you:

35/39 (89.7 completion % ) - 355 yards - 1 TD - 0 INT

That is consistency people. New Orleans' offense shows absolutely no signs of slowing down from where they left off last season. You can currently draft Brees as QB #4 behind Peyton, CP, and Brady ...... I doubt that will last long.

 

[duaneok66]

agreed . . . the guy is missing Colston and Henderson and it doesnt matter; heck - he's missing his starting LT (he did get sacked twice though) . . .

agree with Brees at #2 . . .

 

[jurb26]

Did this really need to be said? I think I might consider Brady ahead of him as QB2, but that is about it.

 

[JMJ]

Did this really need to be said? I think I might consider Brady ahead of him as QB2, but that is about it.

Ask yourself the same thing about what you just posted.HTH.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

Forget #2. I think Brees can be #1 over Peyton Manning. And you can get him at least 2 rounds later.

 

[Crusaderfan]

The "in" thing this pre-season seems to be picking Brees as over-rated or a bust candidate. I just don't see it.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

worst thing AJ smith has ever done was let him go. Rivers might pan out, but Brees is better. Cant wait for my Charger homer brethern to chime in

 

[Horses Mouth]

makes me nauseous that we (MIA) didn't sign him.

 

[Fodasme69]

makes me nauseous that we (MIA) didn't sign him.

Yeah but Mia signed C-Pepp!

 

[Godsbrother]

Its becoming more and more apparant that Drew Brees is the #2 QB in fantasy this year. Just yesterday in a different thread I agreed that Carson Palmer was the clear cut #2 but Brees is just lights out both last year and carrying into this year.

Drew Brees' statistics through 3 preseason games thus far:

Game 1

17/19 - 182 yards - 1 TD

Game 2

6/6 - 55 yards

Game 3

12/14 - 118 yards

Let me do the math for you:

35/39 (89.7 completion % ) - 355 yards - 1 TD - 0 INT

That is consistency people. New Orleans' offense shows absolutely no signs of slowing down from where they left off last season. You can currently draft Brees as QB #4 behind Peyton, CP, and Brady ...... I doubt that will last long.

I think your stats are incomplete. Brees was 1/6 for 6 yards in the HOF game against the Steelers.Not a big deal. Just wanted to point it out...

 

[David Yudkin]

I missed the memo where preseason stats count for anything. The odds of Brees having as many yards are last year are slim. Very few QB have come close to having back-to-back years with 4,400+ passing yards.

As for the preseason stats, in 2005, Daunte Culpepper wnet 36 for 44 (82%) with 520 passing yards in the 2005 preseason after a unhuman 2004 season. How'd that turn out?

 

[Mungo Burrows]

I missed the memo where preseason stats count for anything. The odds of Brees having as many yards are last year are slim. Very few QB have come close to have back-to-back years with 4,400+ passing yards.As for the preseason stats, in 2005, Daunte Culpepper wnet 36 for 44 (82%) with 520 passing yards in the 2005 preseason after a unhuman 2004 season. How'd that turn out?

:buzzkill:

 

[Knight who says Ni]

Forget #2. I think Brees can be #1 over Peyton Manning. And you can get him at least 2 rounds later.

I am inclined to agree with this ... Brees challenged Marino's yardage record in his first year with a new team with a first-year coach. With one year under everyone's belt (including Bush and Payton), I believe Brees surpasses Peyton Manning this year.

worst thing AJ smith has ever done was let him go. Rivers might pan out, but Brees is better. Cant wait for my Charger homer brethern to chime in

A San Diego team with Brees would just be ... wow. ScaryNi

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Its becoming more and more apparant that Drew Brees is the #2 QB in fantasy this year. Just yesterday in a different thread I agreed that Carson Palmer was the clear cut #2 but Brees is just lights out both last year and carrying into this year.

Drew Brees' statistics through 3 preseason games thus far:

Game 1

17/19 - 182 yards - 1 TD

Game 2

6/6 - 55 yards

Game 3

12/14 - 118 yards

Let me do the math for you:

35/39 (89.7 completion % ) - 355 yards - 1 TD - 0 INT

That is consistency people. New Orleans' offense shows absolutely no signs of slowing down from where they left off last season. You can currently draft Brees as QB #4 behind Peyton, CP, and Brady ...... I doubt that will last long.

So, yesterday you believed that Palmer was the clear cut No.2 guy. Am I correct in assuming that 1 preseason game totally revamps your thinking of an entire winter and training camp?I'm not saying Brees or Palmer is NO.2 or who you should put there........but I'm telling you that 1 preseason game shouldn't make you flip flop unless of course there's some type of injury etc...

Drew Brees is as good as he was going into that game as he was going out.

 

[saintfool]

if the Saints offensive line can protect him again then Brees will have a very good year. he's got a ton of weapons. he's a smart, talented QB.

 

[az_prof]

Its becoming more and more apparant that Drew Brees is the #2 QB in fantasy this year. Just yesterday in a different thread I agreed that Carson Palmer was the clear cut #2 but Brees is just lights out both last year and carrying into this year.

Drew Brees' statistics through 3 preseason games thus far:

Game 1

17/19 - 182 yards - 1 TD

Game 2

6/6 - 55 yards

Game 3

12/14 - 118 yards

Let me do the math for you:

35/39 (89.7 completion % ) - 355 yards - 1 TD - 0 INT

That is consistency people. New Orleans' offense shows absolutely no signs of slowing down from where they left off last season. You can currently draft Brees as QB #4 behind Peyton, CP, and Brady ...... I doubt that will last long.

So, yesterday you believed that Palmer was the clear cut No.2 guy. Am I correct in assuming that 1 preseason game totally revamps your thinking of an entire winter and training camp?I'm not saying Brees or Palmer is NO.2 or who you should put there........but I'm telling you that 1 preseason game shouldn't make you flip flop unless of course there's some type of injury etc...

Drew Brees is as good as he was going into that game as he was going out.

I saw him make some guy named Moore and David Patten look pretty dang good...good enough that it makes me wonder whether Colston is a stud or just a good WR with a great QB. I think he will make any WR in that offense put up good fantasy numbers.

 

[JMJ]

Its becoming more and more apparant that Drew Brees is the #2 QB in fantasy this year. Just yesterday in a different thread I agreed that Carson Palmer was the clear cut #2 but Brees is just lights out both last year and carrying into this year.

Drew Brees' statistics through 3 preseason games thus far:

Game 1

17/19 - 182 yards - 1 TD

Game 2

6/6 - 55 yards

Game 3

12/14 - 118 yards

Let me do the math for you:

35/39 (89.7 completion % ) - 355 yards - 1 TD - 0 INT

That is consistency people. New Orleans' offense shows absolutely no signs of slowing down from where they left off last season. You can currently draft Brees as QB #4 behind Peyton, CP, and Brady ...... I doubt that will last long.

So, yesterday you believed that Palmer was the clear cut No.2 guy. Am I correct in assuming that 1 preseason game totally revamps your thinking of an entire winter and training camp?I'm not saying Brees or Palmer is NO.2 or who you should put there........but I'm telling you that 1 preseason game shouldn't make you flip flop unless of course there's some type of injury etc...

Drew Brees is as good as he was going into that game as he was going out.

Well,I had Brees at a close #3 because I couldn't possibly believe he could duplicate last season. However, last night's performance leaves me thinking if I am wrong to doubt that he can duplicate his 2006 statistics. His yardage total last year was obscene. Did you realistically think he'd come close to surpassing it this year? I didn't. However, he just doesn't stop. I'm beginning to doubt myself for doubting him.

And, I didn't say that Brees is now the clear cut #2 and Palmer no longer is. I just said that maybe Brees actually can be #2 now so I retract saying Carson Palmer was. I don't feel as strong as I did yesterday that there is a considerable gap between the two because Brees just doesn't stop completing passes and racking up yards. He's like a machine right now.

**edited to add**

You're right. In the original post I did use the word "is," when I should have used the words "could be" or "should be viewed as .....".

I rank him and CP in the same tier today where yesterday I had CP slightly ahead.

 

[Gonzo Stokes]

Its becoming more and more apparant that Drew Brees is the #2 QB in fantasy this year. Just yesterday in a different thread I agreed that Carson Palmer was the clear cut #2 but Brees is just lights out both last year and carrying into this year.

Drew Brees' statistics through 3 preseason games thus far:

Game 1

17/19 - 182 yards - 1 TD

Game 2

6/6 - 55 yards

Game 3

12/14 - 118 yards

Let me do the math for you:

35/39 (89.7 completion % ) - 355 yards - 1 TD - 0 INT

That is consistency people. New Orleans' offense shows absolutely no signs of slowing down from where they left off last season. You can currently draft Brees as QB #4 behind Peyton, CP, and Brady ...... I doubt that will last long.

So, yesterday you believed that Palmer was the clear cut No.2 guy. Am I correct in assuming that 1 preseason game totally revamps your thinking of an entire winter and training camp?I'm not saying Brees or Palmer is NO.2 or who you should put there........but I'm telling you that 1 preseason game shouldn't make you flip flop unless of course there's some type of injury etc...

Drew Brees is as good as he was going into that game as he was going out.

At some point extraordinary on-field performance has to count for something. Different people can make different evaluations.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I agree with all you guys......and I don't mean to be disrespectful.

I'm just saying 1 preseason game shouldn't make you switch your mind. It doesn't matter who we're talking about.

It's Drew Brees, so fine.

Ya, he could finish NO. 2......heck maybe No.1 because the Colts are 14-2 and Manning doesn't play much down the stretch and the Saints are in a wild card dog fight and Brees goes nuts down the stretch because they have to win.

Who knows.......my point is simply it's a preseason game, don't read too much into it and stick with what you had before that preseason game.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Its becoming more and more apparant that Drew Brees is the #2 QB in fantasy this year. Just yesterday in a different thread I agreed that Carson Palmer was the clear cut #2 but Brees is just lights out both last year and carrying into this year.

Drew Brees' statistics through 3 preseason games thus far:

Game 1

17/19 - 182 yards - 1 TD

Game 2

6/6 - 55 yards

Game 3

12/14 - 118 yards

Let me do the math for you:

35/39 (89.7 completion % ) - 355 yards - 1 TD - 0 INT

That is consistency people. New Orleans' offense shows absolutely no signs of slowing down from where they left off last season. You can currently draft Brees as QB #4 behind Peyton, CP, and Brady ...... I doubt that will last long.

So, yesterday you believed that Palmer was the clear cut No.2 guy. Am I correct in assuming that 1 preseason game totally revamps your thinking of an entire winter and training camp?I'm not saying Brees or Palmer is NO.2 or who you should put there........but I'm telling you that 1 preseason game shouldn't make you flip flop unless of course there's some type of injury etc...

Drew Brees is as good as he was going into that game as he was going out.

At some point extraordinary on-field performance has to count for something. Different people can make different evaluations.

Aye........and that point is the regular season.

 

[az_prof]

Its becoming more and more apparant that Drew Brees is the #2 QB in fantasy this year. Just yesterday in a different thread I agreed that Carson Palmer was the clear cut #2 but Brees is just lights out both last year and carrying into this year.

Drew Brees' statistics through 3 preseason games thus far:

Game 1

17/19 - 182 yards - 1 TD

Game 2

6/6 - 55 yards

Game 3

12/14 - 118 yards

Let me do the math for you:

35/39 (89.7 completion % ) - 355 yards - 1 TD - 0 INT

That is consistency people. New Orleans' offense shows absolutely no signs of slowing down from where they left off last season. You can currently draft Brees as QB #4 behind Peyton, CP, and Brady ...... I doubt that will last long.

So, yesterday you believed that Palmer was the clear cut No.2 guy. Am I correct in assuming that 1 preseason game totally revamps your thinking of an entire winter and training camp?I'm not saying Brees or Palmer is NO.2 or who you should put there........but I'm telling you that 1 preseason game shouldn't make you flip flop unless of course there's some type of injury etc...

Drew Brees is as good as he was going into that game as he was going out.

Well,I had Brees at a close #3 because I couldn't possibly believe he could duplicate last season. However, last night's performance leaves me thinking if I am wrong to doubt that he can duplicate his 2006 statistics. His yardage total last year was obscene. Did you realistically think he'd come close to surpassing it this year? I didn't. However, he just doesn't stop. I'm beginning to doubt myself for doubting him.

And, I didn't say that Brees is now the clear cut #2 and Palmer no longer is. I just said that maybe Brees actually can be #2 now so I retract saying Carson Palmer was. I don't feel as strong as I did yesterday that there is a considerable gap between the two because Brees just doesn't stop completing passes and racking up yards. He's like a machine right now.

**edited to add**

You're right. In the original post I did use the word "is," when I should have used the words "could be" or "should be viewed as .....".

I rank him and CP in the same tier today where yesterday I had CP slightly ahead.

I rank Palmer and Brees as equal at number Two.

 

[Gonzo Stokes]

Its becoming more and more apparant that Drew Brees is the #2 QB in fantasy this year. Just yesterday in a different thread I agreed that Carson Palmer was the clear cut #2 but Brees is just lights out both last year and carrying into this year.

Drew Brees' statistics through 3 preseason games thus far:

Game 1

17/19 - 182 yards - 1 TD

Game 2

6/6 - 55 yards

Game 3

12/14 - 118 yards

Let me do the math for you:

35/39 (89.7 completion % ) - 355 yards - 1 TD - 0 INT

That is consistency people. New Orleans' offense shows absolutely no signs of slowing down from where they left off last season. You can currently draft Brees as QB #4 behind Peyton, CP, and Brady ...... I doubt that will last long.

So, yesterday you believed that Palmer was the clear cut No.2 guy. Am I correct in assuming that 1 preseason game totally revamps your thinking of an entire winter and training camp?I'm not saying Brees or Palmer is NO.2 or who you should put there........but I'm telling you that 1 preseason game shouldn't make you flip flop unless of course there's some type of injury etc...

Drew Brees is as good as he was going into that game as he was going out.

At some point extraordinary on-field performance has to count for something. Different people can make different evaluations.

Aye........and that point is the regular season.

You're correct, but fantasy owners don't have the luxury of waiting until then to change an evaluation.

 

[dirtywaters20]

if the Saints offensive line can protect him again then Brees will have a very good year. he's got a ton of weapons. he's a smart, talented QB.

Couple that with a suspect secondary & I think they win alot of shoot outs this year.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Its becoming more and more apparant that Drew Brees is the #2 QB in fantasy this year. Just yesterday in a different thread I agreed that Carson Palmer was the clear cut #2 but Brees is just lights out both last year and carrying into this year.

Drew Brees' statistics through 3 preseason games thus far:

Game 1

17/19 - 182 yards - 1 TD

Game 2

6/6 - 55 yards

Game 3

12/14 - 118 yards

Let me do the math for you:

35/39 (89.7 completion % ) - 355 yards - 1 TD - 0 INT

That is consistency people. New Orleans' offense shows absolutely no signs of slowing down from where they left off last season. You can currently draft Brees as QB #4 behind Peyton, CP, and Brady ...... I doubt that will last long.

So, yesterday you believed that Palmer was the clear cut No.2 guy. Am I correct in assuming that 1 preseason game totally revamps your thinking of an entire winter and training camp?I'm not saying Brees or Palmer is NO.2 or who you should put there........but I'm telling you that 1 preseason game shouldn't make you flip flop unless of course there's some type of injury etc...

Drew Brees is as good as he was going into that game as he was going out.

At some point extraordinary on-field performance has to count for something. Different people can make different evaluations.

Aye........and that point is the regular season.

You're correct, but fantasy owners don't have the luxury of waiting until then to change an evaluation.

And what I'm saying is simply don't change that evaluation on 1 preseason game.If Marvin Harrison catches the ball 2 times for 33 yards....I'm not sliding him down my ladder.

I know what people are capable of.

I like preseason games for certain battles like Wr 2 and 3 battles, emerging TE's that get the starting roles if you're astute.

But I'm not all of a sudden bumping guys after 1 preseason game like Drew Brees over Carson Palmer IF I had Palmer ahead of him before the game.

If I had Brees 3 or 4 or 5 before this game.....I'd just feel good that he had a good game and I'd figure I was right, he is going to have a good year outside of some freak injury and go on from there.

 

[Tom Baker]

worst thing AJ smith has ever done was let him go. Rivers might pan out, but Brees is better. Cant wait for my Charger homer brethern to chime in

A San Diego team with Brees would just be ... wow. Scary

If Brees had been with the Chargers last year, I don't think even Marty could have kept them from winning the title . . .

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

worst thing AJ smith has ever done was let him go. Rivers might pan out, but Brees is better. Cant wait for my Charger homer brethern to chime in

A San Diego team with Brees would just be ... wow. Scary

If Brees had been with the Chargers last year, I don't think even Marty could have kept them from winning the title . . .

This will make a lot of Indy fans upset.....I like Peyton Manning myself and Indy but I honostly feel and would bet my paycheck that Indianapolis doesn't go INTO San Diego last year and win a game there like New England did.On that note, without that physical and emotional game New England played in San Diego and then traveling on the road to Indy.......Indy doesn't beat New England without that baggage in the 4th quarter.Just shows you how much better the AFC was last year as the Bears were AT BEST the 4th best team in the NFL last year if not worse.

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

So where would you take Brees in a standard scoring 12 team draft?

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

So where would you take Brees in a standard scoring 12 team draft?

I wouldn't because any top 4 (he's in my top 4) QB I have ranked always goes before I would draft him in a league.His adp is 35.... which is end of the 3rd round.PROBABLY if you are at that spot, you drafted RB, RB in round 1 and 2, putting you in a position of not having a WR yet.At that spot, you can take Colston, Javon Walker or Anquan Boldin if you like anyone of those guys.If you pass on a WR again and take Brees there, you then are taking your WR 1 in the 4th round.......I don't like it.I'd take him middle of the 4th round but he won't be there then.

 

[saintfool]

if the Saints offensive line can protect him again then Brees will have a very good year. he's got a ton of weapons. he's a smart, talented QB.

Couple that with a suspect secondary & I think they win alot of shoot outs this year.

I don't think the secondary is going to be awful at all. They will be mediocre, at worst. They have quality depth there with David and Kaenershivan added. Harper is returning healthy. Fred T might even get cut, given the improvements to the secondary. The LBs are the weak link for the Saints on defense.

 

[Unlucky]

I have Brees at #8 and I'm sticking with it. No rushing, and his TDs won't be quite as high as the guys above him.

Did you guys forget that McAllister and Bush will carry the ball quite a bit? Perhaps just a few rushing TDs thrown in as well?

 

[dirtywaters20]

if the Saints offensive line can protect him again then Brees will have a very good year. he's got a ton of weapons. he's a smart, talented QB.

Couple that with a suspect secondary & I think they win alot of shoot outs this year.

I don't think the secondary is going to be awful at all. They will be mediocre, at worst. They have quality depth there with David and Kaenershivan added. Harper is returning healthy. Fred T might even get cut, given the improvements to the secondary. The LBs are the weak link for the Saints on defense.

Have the new additions looked good? I didn't think Kaesviharn was a lock to start and wasn't sure how David would fair coming from the Cover 2. I have only seen the Hall of Fame game and the corners looked terrible. How do you think Brees' passing attempts will compare to last season. I always appreciate the local insight.

 

[Pygmy Marmoset]

I have Brees at #8 and I'm sticking with it. No rushing, and his TDs won't be quite as high as the guys above him. Did you guys forget that McAllister and Bush will carry the ball quite a bit? Perhaps just a few rushing TDs thrown in as well?

Yes, thanks. Everyone forgot about the best running back tandem in the NFL.

 

[ATC1]

IMO, it's all on the defense. They play well every Saint's current ADP is too high. They don't play well, everyone is worth their ADP or more.

 

[switz]

worst thing AJ smith has ever done was let him go. Rivers might pan out, but Brees is better. Cant wait for my Charger homer brethern to chime in

I don't disagree at al about the Brees>Rivers. But I will say that AJ did what was best for the team in the long run.

 

[switz]

makes me nauseous that we (MIA) didn't sign him.

Nauseous maybe, but were you really surprised? When was the last time MIA made a good personnel decision?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

worst thing AJ smith has ever done was let him go. Rivers might pan out, but Brees is better. Cant wait for my Charger homer brethern to chime in

I don't disagree at al about the Brees>Rivers. But I will say that AJ did what was best for the team in the long run.

I think right now that the Chargers would have had a better chance to win the SB with Brees than Rivers. That might not be true in 2 more years.

 

[switz]

This will make a lot of Indy fans upset.....I like Peyton Manning myself and Indy but I honostly feel and would bet my paycheck that Indianapolis doesn't go INTO San Diego last year and win a game there like New England did.On that note, without that physical and emotional game New England played in San Diego and then traveling on the road to Indy.......Indy doesn't beat New England without that baggage in the 4th quarter.Just shows you how much better the AFC was last year as the Bears were AT BEST the 4th best team in the NFL last year if not worse.

Considering NE shouldn't have won that game either it doesn't upset me. Do I tihnk INDY would have had a better shot going in than NE? Yeah. But both of them _should_ have lost against SD. And I'm a Colts fan.

 

[switz]

worst thing AJ smith has ever done was let him go. Rivers might pan out, but Brees is better. Cant wait for my Charger homer brethern to chime in

I don't disagree at al about the Brees>Rivers. But I will say that AJ did what was best for the team in the long run.

I think right now that the Chargers would have had a better chance to win the SB with Brees than Rivers. That might not be true in 2 more years.

 

[yellowdog]

I have Brees at #8 and I'm sticking with it. No rushing, and his TDs won't be quite as high as the guys above him. Did you guys forget that McAllister and Bush will carry the ball quite a bit? Perhaps just a few rushing TDs thrown in as well?

Yes, thanks. Everyone forgot about the best running back tandem in the NFL.

Bush will also be a beast catching the ball, thrown by Brees.

 

[dirtywaters20]

I have Brees at #8 and I'm sticking with it. No rushing, and his TDs won't be quite as high as the guys above him. Did you guys forget that McAllister and Bush will carry the ball quite a bit? Perhaps just a few rushing TDs thrown in as well?

Yes, thanks. Everyone forgot about the best running back tandem in the NFL.

They had nearly 120 receptions between them, how could we forget?

 

[Tom Baker]

I have Brees at #8 and I'm sticking with it. No rushing, and his TDs won't be quite as high as the guys above him. Did you guys forget that McAllister and Bush will carry the ball quite a bit? Perhaps just a few rushing TDs thrown in as well?

If he stays healthy, no way does he fall out of the top five, and odds are he'll be top-three. Saints had 17 rushing TDs last year, which is exactly what you have McAllister and Bush pegged for this year in your own projections. Guy had 180 yards and a TD in less than a half last night, with his starting receivers on the sidelines. The playcalling is very similar to last year, and Brees looks razor sharp. Don't see any evidence for a decline at this point.

 

[dirtywaters20]

IMO, it's all on the defense. They play well every Saint's current ADP is too high. They don't play well, everyone is worth their ADP or more.

That is the main constraint on Brees imo. Any homer insights on the d would be appreciated.

 

[ATC1]

IMO, it's all on the defense. They play well every Saint's current ADP is too high. They don't play well, everyone is worth their ADP or more.

That is the main constraint on Brees imo. Any homer insights on the d would be appreciated.

I have not been impressed thus far. Every FA pick up has yet to assert themselves as a starter. Simmons, Kavhorn*, or even David IMO. KC was still running the ball very well against the Saints D last night. Although they did not give up the long ball, it was againts Croyle, and it seems like they were playing back and giving the WR's cushions for under routes. I wonder if that will be the style this year. Control the clock, make the opposing offense beat themselves. So far the 1st team defense has looked good against KC and BUF. Looked terrible against PIT in the Hall of Fame game, which I would not look too much into it. It could be a long opening night against the Colts for this defense, and the only way I see us winning is a shoot out and winning the TO battle.

 

[jurb26]

It could be a long opening night against the Colts for this defense, and the only way I see us winning is a shoot out and winning the TO battle.

I'd say Saints fans better hope for a few turn overs. I don't think they can win any other way. Saints will have to be +2 in turnover margin IMO.

 

[monkeysee]

This just in....Drew Brees is good.

 

[flufhed]

I will be taking Brees at the end of the third if he is there (I have the 10th pick in a 12-team re-draft where QBs get 6 pts per TD and -2 per INT). While I agree it is hard to imagine him duplicating last year, just based on history, people have to remember that it was only a little more than a year ago when Brees was still trying to get his arm up to 100%, he was going to a brand-new offense, and he was working with a very young o-line and young skill position players, except for Deuce (which is a BIG exception, I admit). Hard to see Brees really taking a step back, and he could be better this year. He is re-born professionally, in the prime of his career, with everyone but the oft-injured Joe Horn returning, with a new TE in Johnson, and with all the rooks from last year having a full year under their belts. What's not to like?

All that said, i like Brady alot this year, too. QBs will go early and often in my draft, and I doubt I will have a chance at either because I am highly unlikely to even think about one of these guys or Palmer at 2.3.

 

[kensat30]

Deuce + Bush running the ball in at the stripe limits his upside IMO.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I will be taking Brees at the end of the third if he is there (I have the 10th pick in a 12-team re-draft where QBs get 6 pts per TD and -2 per INT). While I agree it is hard to imagine him duplicating last year, just based on history, people have to remember that it was only a little more than a year ago when Brees was still trying to get his arm up to 100%, he was going to a brand-new offense, and he was working with a very young o-line and young skill position players, except for Deuce (which is a BIG exception, I admit). Hard to see Brees really taking a step back, and he could be better this year. He is re-born professionally, in the prime of his career, with everyone but the oft-injured Joe Horn returning, with a new TE in Johnson, and with all the rooks from last year having a full year under their belts. What's not to like?All that said, i like Brady alot this year, too. QBs will go early and often in my draft, and I doubt I will have a chance at either because I am highly unlikely to even think about one of these guys or Palmer at 2.3.

Take a look at all the QBs who have ever thrown for 4400+ yards. Equalling that the following season rarely ever happens (only happened twice). Guys like Marino, Favre and Manning have all had statistically inferior seasons following their 4400+ pass yard season. Most of them don't even hit 4000 yards the following year.

 

[David Yudkin]

I will be taking Brees at the end of the third if he is there (I have the 10th pick in a 12-team re-draft where QBs get 6 pts per TD and -2 per INT). While I agree it is hard to imagine him duplicating last year, just based on history, people have to remember that it was only a little more than a year ago when Brees was still trying to get his arm up to 100%, he was going to a brand-new offense, and he was working with a very young o-line and young skill position players, except for Deuce (which is a BIG exception, I admit). Hard to see Brees really taking a step back, and he could be better this year. He is re-born professionally, in the prime of his career, with everyone but the oft-injured Joe Horn returning, with a new TE in Johnson, and with all the rooks from last year having a full year under their belts. What's not to like?

All that said, i like Brady alot this year, too. QBs will go early and often in my draft, and I doubt I will have a chance at either because I am highly unlikely to even think about one of these guys or Palmer at 2.3.

Here's the thing. Based on where he's getting drafted, if he DOESN'T repeat his production from last year he's not worth where he's getting drafted.If Brees drops 500 passing yards and 2 TD (not a stretch in my book), he's have scored 33 fewer points in a 4 pt per TD system. If he did that last year, he would have ranked 7th. Is Brees as the #7 QB worth a third round pick?

Don't get me wrong, I like Brees and have owned him in a dynasty league since he was a rookie. But I said the same think the year after Manning chased 50 TDs. People made him a Top 5 pick overall the next year and he produced 4th round value even though he was the #3 QB that year.

I suspect that Brees will be the classic case of overpaying the year after a season with great production. Basically, people will be drafting his 2006 numbers, not his 2007 numbers.

 

[Scruff Mcgruff]

I will be taking Brees at the end of the third if he is there (I have the 10th pick in a 12-team re-draft where QBs get 6 pts per TD and -2 per INT). While I agree it is hard to imagine him duplicating last year, just based on history, people have to remember that it was only a little more than a year ago when Brees was still trying to get his arm up to 100%, he was going to a brand-new offense, and he was working with a very young o-line and young skill position players, except for Deuce (which is a BIG exception, I admit). Hard to see Brees really taking a step back, and he could be better this year. He is re-born professionally, in the prime of his career, with everyone but the oft-injured Joe Horn returning, with a new TE in Johnson, and with all the rooks from last year having a full year under their belts. What's not to like?

All that said, i like Brady alot this year, too. QBs will go early and often in my draft, and I doubt I will have a chance at either because I am highly unlikely to even think about one of these guys or Palmer at 2.3.

Here's the thing. Based on where he's getting drafted, if he DOESN'T repeat his production from last year he's not worth where he's getting drafted.If Brees drops 500 passing yards and 2 TD (not a stretch in my book), he's have scored 33 fewer points in a 4 pt per TD system. If he did that last year, he would have ranked 7th. Is Brees as the #7 QB worth a third round pick?

Don't get me wrong, I like Brees and have owned him in a dynasty league since he was a rookie. But I said the same think the year after Manning chased 50 TDs. People made him a Top 5 pick overall the next year and he produced 4th round value even though he was the #3 QB that year.

I suspect that Brees will be the classic case of overpaying the year after a season with great production. Basically, people will be drafting his 2006 numbers, not his 2007 numbers.

When do you think he should be drafted?