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[Will]

I was hoping this might get a little more attention in the Keyshawn threads but I didn't see much.

I am wondering if Keyshawn's release will mean Carter will get a shot or will it just mean that Carolina is going to go with Jarrett as a starter?

Can anyone tell me just how ready Jarrett is for the NFL. I know Keyshawn was talking like he needed a bit of time to learn and he (key) was going to mentor him. That plan is out obviously, but does anyone really have an idea how Carolina plans to use Jarrett right away? Or is it too soon to tell?

I'm just trying to get a feel for what (if any) value Carter (and also Colbert) may have right now.

Add in the Delhomme/Carr saga and I am lost.

I know Carter has struggled to stay (get) healthy and that may be where this pick came from. Insurance because Keyshawn is older and Carter can't stay healthy and Colbert has disappointed since his rookie year.

just looking for any insight into the whole Carolina WR situation.

Thanks

 

[simey]

nobody really knows how much playing time the young receivers will get, and i doubt the panthers know yet either until they evaluate them all via training camp, and the preseason. i would think that carter would get plenty of reps being that he is more seasoned now. as for the delhomme/carr saga, there is no saga. jake is the starting quarterback, and carr is the backup. there is no controversy there. here is alittle insight the panthers gave on releasing keyshawn, and about their young receivers. link

Comments from general manager Marty Hurney

On the decision to release Johnson: We got through the weekend and were fortunate enough to get those two young receivers in Dwayne Jarrett and Ryne Robinson. We talked and those two guys along with the young guys we have already on the team in Drew Carter, Keary Colbert and Taye Biddle, we just thought that we had a number of young wide receivers that we wanted to commit to as far as time and reps to accelerate their development. We appreciate everything Keyshawn did for us. He was everything we thought when we signed him. Seventy catches in this League is a lot of catches in a year. He brought us everything that we had hoped he would. We just made the decision that now is the time to focus on the group of young receivers we have and try to give them the time and reps to accelerate their development.

On Johnson's reaction to being released: I think Keyshawn understood. One thing about Keyshawn is he understands the business aspect of everything. We had a couple of conversations. Obviously, he was disappointed. I think he feels like he could help our team try to get to a championship, which was his goal. I know he does not agree with the decision but I think he understood it.

On if Johnson's personality factored into the decision: No. The reasoning was just what I explained. We added two young wide receivers. We have a group of young wide receivers that we want to commit to to accelerate their development.

On if this was a salary-cap decision at all: No. It really has everything to do with giving the time and reps to the young receivers that we have on the roster and, hopefully, accelerating their development.

On if the Panthers have a Plan B if wide receiver Steve Smith gets hurt: Anything that you do in the offseason, people are going to have their opinions. Everybody is going to have a different opinion. Basically, it's our job to make decisions, and, hopefully, they will work out. Obviously, we put a lot of thought into the decisions we make. I think that we do have a lot of confidence in our young wide receivers. I'm hoping that in October and November everybody is saying, “Hey, that was a great decision. These young wide receivers are working and making plays for the Panthers.” Obviously, we would not have made this decision if we didn't feel that way. You have to wait and see how it works out, but we feel like our young guys are going to come through for us.

On if this is a vote of confidence for rookie wide receiver Dwayne Jarrett: We are very excited to have Dwayne, but I think that it really is more confidence in the group. We have five young guys who we think have the ability to be good players at this level. Obviously, the ability to acquire Dwayne Jarrett and Ryne Robinson this weekend was the closing factor on this decision.

 

[Couch Potato]

He's a speed guy, goes on the deeper routes and clears out zones for others' underneath patterns. He's a good role player and after a mess of early injuries in his college/pro career, has turned out to be a nice value for a 5th round pick.

It's pretty clear to me CAR views his role as just that, though, and not more. Jarrett replaces Key, and Carter continues to do what he does as the #3. That's likely to be his career upside.

 

[DocNiner52]

Colston did pretty good as a rookie and 7th round pick for the Saints so I guess the Panthers feel that they have a decent enough QB that would allow Jarrett to step right in and be the #2 guy. I think he'll get more looks than Carter. Whether that translates into production or not we'll just have to wait and see. If he can produce even moderately out of the gate I think that would help Steve Smith's numbers.

 

[LHUCKS]

Colston did pretty good as a rookie and 7th round pick for the Saints

There are a lot of physical similarities between Jarrett and Colston.

 

[kensat30]

I'm really surprised on how low Jarrett is being rated on most dynasty boards. Seems like it is a wide open opportunity for him to be starting by 2008 if not 2007. Keary Colbert and Drew Carter almost seem like slot WR candidates to me, while Jarrett seems to be ideally suited to be the big target across from Steve Smith.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Colston did pretty good as a rookie and 7th round pick for the Saints

There are a lot of physical similarities between Jarrett and Colston.

frame wise, yes. What others do you see?

 

[Jiggyonthehut]

Colston did pretty good as a rookie and 7th round pick for the Saints

There are a lot of physical similarities between Jarrett and Colston.

frame wise, yes. What others do you see?

Jarrett: 6'4 219Colston: 6'4 231What am I missing here? I really dont see any way to relate the two save a mediocre 40 time. I will give you this, however, both play much faster than advertised and both get great leverage over DB's. I like Jarrett's hands too. His route-running is also a bit underrated by many. That said, I dont envision similar roles for the two given Jarrett's weight. If Pac-10 DB's could actually tackle, he'd be in the hospital a few times alreadu. Im not sure he's a starter just yet; I just have this feeling that press coverage will really him, even if is just a simple bump-and-run, i feel it could really throw him off. Perhaps he will start off in the slot?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Colston did pretty good as a rookie and 7th round pick for the Saints

There are a lot of physical similarities between Jarrett and Colston.

frame wise, yes. What others do you see?

Jarrett: 6'4 219Colston: 6'4 231What am I missing here? I really dont see any way to relate the two save a mediocre 40 time. I will give you this, however, both play much faster than advertised and both get great leverage over DB's. I like Jarrett's hands too. His route-running is also a bit underrated by many. That said, I dont envision similar roles for the two given Jarrett's weight. If Pac-10 DB's could actually tackle, he'd be in the hospital a few times alreadu. Im not sure he's a starter just yet; I just have this feeling that press coverage will really him, even if is just a simple bump-and-run, i feel it could really throw him off. Perhaps he will start off in the slot?

Thats kinda what I was getting at. They are both tall long limbed WRs, but their styles and strengths/weaknesses are where they diverge. BTW, Colston's speed is advertised - he ran a 4.5 at the combine, which is like a 4.4 when you are as a lanky as Colston - deceptive looking, but not deceptive on the stopwatch.

 

[pantherclub]

Jarrett is a stud who will make a ton of teams regret passing on him. He was a 2 time AA so he knows how to play. Forget 40 times the dude is sick.

Drew Carter, he is not very good. Not very good at all. Very fast, but doesnt like contact and doesnt catch all that well.

 

[Giggity]

Colston did pretty good as a rookie and 7th round pick for the Saints

There are a lot of physical similarities between Jarrett and Colston.

Not really.

 

[LHUCKS]

Colston did pretty good as a rookie and 7th round pick for the Saints

There are a lot of physical similarities between Jarrett and Colston.

frame wise, yes. What others do you see?

hands and body control are both strengths, although I'd give Jarrett a small advantage in hands.So similar frames, non-blazing 40 times, body control and hands. They are very similar.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Colston did pretty good as a rookie and 7th round pick for the Saints

There are a lot of physical similarities between Jarrett and Colston.

frame wise, yes. What others do you see?

hands and body control are both strengths, although I'd give Jarrett a small advantage in hands.So similar frames, non-blazing 40 times, body control and hands. They are very similar.

I would actually give Jarrett the edge in body control. Colston is more natural at using his frame to block out. Colston has a huge advantage in quicks and general skills to get off the line free against press coverage, but he doesn't make the circus catches that Jarrett can make.Colston's 40 was 4.50, which is actually dang fast for a guy with his frame.

 

[LHUCKS]

Colston did pretty good as a rookie and 7th round pick for the Saints

There are a lot of physical similarities between Jarrett and Colston.

frame wise, yes. What others do you see?

hands and body control are both strengths, although I'd give Jarrett a small advantage in hands.So similar frames, non-blazing 40 times, body control and hands. They are very similar.

I would actually give Jarrett the edge in body control. Colston is more natural at using his frame to block out. Colston has a huge advantage in quicks and general skills to get off the line free against press coverage, but he doesn't make the circus catches that Jarrett can make.Colston's 40 was 4.50, which is actually dang fast for a guy with his frame.

I agree with most of that...sounds like they're very similar to me but to each his own.

 

[greeklightnin]

I've scouted both. I'm not getting how Colston has less body control than Jarrett. Anybody see the Saints vs Bears playoff game? Colston made a catch with Urlacher on him that was thrown 2-3 feet behind the direction he was moving in. He made a sick catch reminiscent of the famous Calvin Johnson catch where they both had to jump backwards to make the catch.

Jarrett vs Carter is onesided in favor of Jarrett. Carter has speed but almost no ball skills. He demonstrated that during Stevonne' absence.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I've scouted both. I'm not getting how Colston has less body control than Jarrett. Anybody see the Saints vs Bears playoff game? Colston made a catch with Urlacher on him that was thrown 2-3 feet behind the direction he was moving in. He made a sick catch reminiscent of the famous Calvin Johnson catch where they both had to jump backwards to make the catch.Jarrett vs Carter is onesided in favor of Jarrett. Carter has speed but almost no ball skills. He demonstrated that during Stevonne' absence.

It's not that Colston is weak in the area of body control, it's that Jarrett is outstanding.Jarrett vs. Carter for this year is tough. Teams are going to unmercifully pick on Jarrett with press coverage until he learns how to outquick it or handfight through it, since he hasn't really shown the inclination to do either with much enthusiasm.

 

[joffer]

bump

interested to hear BNB's take on this.

 

[fatness]

interested to hear BNB's take on this.

Same here. He's been very high on Carter.

 

[LHUCKS]

Teams are going to unmercifully pick on Jarrett with press coverage until he learns how to outquick it or handfight through it, since he hasn't really shown the inclination to do either with much enthusiasm.

it's not like this is very complex...the technique is very simple. We're not teaching a QB how to read defenses here.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Teams are going to unmercifully pick on Jarrett with press coverage until he learns how to outquick it or handfight through it, since he hasn't really shown the inclination to do either with much enthusiasm.

it's not like this is very complex...the technique is very simple. We're not teaching a QB how to read defenses here.

If its so simple, why wasnt he doing it in college? Its not like other USC WRs had trouble with getting a release against press coverage - which would indicate a deficiency in the coaching. No, I think the deficiency is in Jarrett.For Jarrett, I dont think its about knowing how to do it, i think its about wanting/willingness to do it.

 

[massraider]

If you dislike Jarrett's chances, you have to love Carter as a value pick.

Course, that assumes Delhomme even looks away from Steve Smith.

 

[LHUCKS]

For Jarrett, I dont think its about knowing how to do it, i think its about wanting/willingness to do it.

I agree with this.

 

[BassNBrew]

interested to hear BNB's take on this.

Same here. He's been very high on Carter.

Will dig into this in depth when I have more time. There are a ton of variables I need to look at. Hopefully I'll be able to get some camp insight on Monday from the local radio stations. Suffice to say the Keyshawn move shocked me. Fox is pretty predictable so I need to look at some history to see what this might mean.