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Dropping Tom Brady. (1 Viewer)
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fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
YES!!!!! I almost started this thread earlier...I started Foles over him, but same result - Brady just sucks this year. He is doing what Rivers did 2 years ago in terms of fantasy - Which was going from good to bad out of nowhere.
Speaking of Rivers, after today's performances, I traded Mike Wallace for him.
Rivers has a bye next week so I have to throw Brady out there one more time against Miami next week, but anything short of a 50 pt performance and he is on the waivers.
Rivers is a great guy to target for Brady owners. Prob a teams number 2, plus he is on a bye this week so you might be able to get a favorable deal. Weeks 14-16 are NYG, DEN, OAK.
GL to my fellow Brady's in Arms!
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T with T
Footballguy
Gustavo Fring
Footballguy
Tom Brady would never be dropped in any serious money league, so why even start a thread with this non-sense? Let's keep the junk material in the Assistant Coach.
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fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
My league has 4 g's in the prize pool on 10 teams... I consider it a serious money league. I won last year and finished 2nd the year before. My team is stacked this year and I don't have the roster space for a guy getting outplayed by Weeden/Alex smith on a weekly basis.
Have you looked at his numbers so far? He's awful!!! 7 games is a decent sample size too... This is what happens when you take away all of a QBs weapons.
Gustavo Fring
Footballguy
If this is a serious money league, like you say, why would you drop him to the other 9 teams no matter how stacked your team is? He just got his main weapon back in Gronk, that is going to open up things for that offense.
Go ahead and drop him, but just know he will not clear waivers, and will most likely come back to bite you when he turns it on later in the year. Good luck winning your league with Weeden/Alex Smith if your other QB happens to go down.
Awful Waffle
Footballguy
I have Cam as my backup. Thinking about trying to trade Brady for anything.
ckalltheway
Footballguy
The biggest problem is a lack of TDs. In a pass first, high scoring league now, you cant be patient with guys that dont get touchdowns.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
No ####.
The week Gronk returns is a great time to "drop" Tom Brady. Shark move.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Have you guys even watched his games or are you just buying the name?
He looks terrible this year, I couldn't trade him for a bag of popcorn. Throws are inaccurate, looks frustrated, & his rookie WRs are playing just like that. Sure, Gronk will get his, but nobody else will.
I just traded for Rivers, I offered Mike Wallace and Brady - The team I traded to didnt want to drop anyone so he countered with just Wallace for Rivers. I CAN'T GIVE HIM AWAY!
Yea, he looked big time the week Gronk returned FYI. I have no choice but to start him again this week since Rivers is on a bye, but that will prob be it. There are at least a dozen QBs I'd rather start over him as of now, maybe even 15 or 16.
He looks terrible this year, I couldn't trade him for a bag of popcorn. Throws are inaccurate, looks frustrated, & his rookie WRs are playing just like that. Sure, Gronk will get his, but nobody else will.
I just traded for Rivers, I offered Mike Wallace and Brady - The team I traded to didnt want to drop anyone so he countered with just Wallace for Rivers. I CAN'T GIVE HIM AWAY!
Yea, he looked big time the week Gronk returned FYI. I have no choice but to start him again this week since Rivers is on a bye, but that will prob be it. There are at least a dozen QBs I'd rather start over him as of now, maybe even 15 or 16.
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He has 225 or less in three games and only one 300 yard game. He averages a little more than one TD per game.
Gronk's return gave him 269.
If you can get your opponent to start him and get only 200 yards and a TD, you're in good shape.
Brady has been terrible for FF.
Why isn't six weeks a reasonable wait and see amount of time to you?
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I traded Brady last week for Gio. Not really crazy about Gio's week, but I think that's pretty decent value. I don't understand all the gibberish about Brady not having trade value. If anything his value jumped on the news of Gronk coming back. And it will go up as Gronk gets more comfortable and the return of Vereen.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Brady, 20th ranked QB.Outscored so far by Flacco, Locker (in only 5 games), Geno Smith, Bradford, Alex Smith, & Jay Cutler to name a few.
The Pats have become a run first win on def team.... Unfortunately for them, the loss of Wilfork & Mayo is crippling.
It isn't just the numbers, he looks terrible!!!
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althepostman
Footballguy
The trolls are out in numbers tonight.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
As much as I hate the Pats and would love for Tom Brady to continue declining until he's out of the league, it would be beyond shortsighted to drop him now. Gronk was a little out of shape yesterday and didn't properly utilize his injured arm at times - he looked like the Gronk of old for the most part. Amendola will likely be back soon as well. There's no reason to drop Brady now.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
QB33 based on average points in my league. 100% dropable. Guy is terrible.
BrotherEsau
Footballguy
I have him in a serious money league. I can't drop him unless I want to roll with Freeman or someone similar. It's a 14 team league, and there is no one on the wire. I don;t have a backup, so I'm stuck with him for now.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
This is a list of QBs I'd start over Brady right now (fantasy only, relax) WITHOUT EVEN THINKING:
Peyton, Brees, Rogers, Cam, Stafford, Rivers, Romo, Luck, RG3, Wilson, Ryan, Dalton, Kaep, & Vick (when healthy).
14 guys without thinking twice - In a 10 team league QB14 or 15 isn't that special. If you have short benches a lot of teams don't even roster 2 QBs.
Peyton, Brees, Rogers, Cam, Stafford, Rivers, Romo, Luck, RG3, Wilson, Ryan, Dalton, Kaep, & Vick (when healthy).
14 guys without thinking twice - In a 10 team league QB14 or 15 isn't that special. If you have short benches a lot of teams don't even roster 2 QBs.
The question isn't sit vs. start Brady. It's whether you drop him.
The answer is a resounding NO since it is only midseason and he has 9 more games in which to improve and turn things around. Who on the waiver wire offers more upside?
A good comp is Eli Manning. Both have proven histories of stellar performance and if you bail on them at this point then all you do is give your opponents a potential high-upside solution later in the year.
Trade Brady. Sure. Sit him for QB2's with good matchups. Sure.
But dropping guys like that is just letting emotions get in the way of rational decision making.
Take the pain.
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Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Uh, that is kind of the opposite of rational decision making. Rational decision making would be to drop the guy who has thrown 1 TD in the last 3 games (well, 1 TD to HIS team), has been terrible all season and has been trending downwards. 4 of his next 6 games are against top 10 pass D's. He might put up average numbers in weeks 8, 12 and 15. Good luck with that.
Hanging on to a guy that seems to be washed up is the emotional play.
No problem. As was said in the WW thread, the best WW pickups this time of year are the underperforming studs that impatient owners drop to the wire.
Fleener
DHB
Mike James
Kellen Clemens
Josh McCown
Case Keenum
Jeremy Kerley
Marvin Jones
Finley's backup
Brandon Gibson
These are the Week 8 WW pickups being discussed for many leagues. Go ahead and add Brady to that list if you want.
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I see some don't understand value. Yes, Brady is underachieving big time this year, but because of his proven track record, he still has a lot of value, and thus dropping him would be an incredibly stupid move. Think of it this way: while Brady is not even a top 20 QB so far this year, if redrafts were done this week for the rest of the season, Brady would still be drafted in most leagues probably in the 12-16 QB range (especially with the recent injuries to Cutler, Vick, Bradford and Schaub). Thus, he still has value.
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fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Put 200 yds and possibly 1 TD in my opponents lineup (if anyone is dumb enough to start Brady) appears to be the shark move to me.
I just traded for Rivers, who has NYG, DEN, OAK in weeks 14-16. I hope I play Brady in any of those 3 weeks with Rivers at QB... I'll then not only have the RB/WR/TE advantage, but also QB advantage.
I just traded for Rivers, who has NYG, DEN, OAK in weeks 14-16. I hope I play Brady in any of those 3 weeks with Rivers at QB... I'll then not only have the RB/WR/TE advantage, but also QB advantage.
There's NO VALUE to a guy who is a risk of throwing 0 Touchdowns. I'm actually Playoff Bound (5 - 2) with the team I have him as my starting Quarterback and once Playoffs start, I'll need to be scoring over 200 Points (this is a 2PPR League) when there's $300 - 350 points on the line.
I can't have him putting up 4 points...
I traded away Foles for Brady at noon Sunday. I have Luck as my starter. Picked up foles off waivers a week ago. I needed a QB for this week(8) and just had a bad feeling about Foles. The Brady owner had him on the bench so I assumed he had given up on him and he had Vick as his other QB. I think Brady will show improvement with Gronk playing and especially after Vereen comes back week 11.
People need to get on point.
The question isn't whether Brady has sucked so far this year. It is whether you drop him to the waiver wire.
For those dropping him, let's see who you pick up for him. Then take a look at who the guy who picked up Brady exchanged him for.
That difference in value and who improved their team more is the only thing worth discussing. All this other Brady-hating is just Shark Pool BS.
The question isn't whether Brady has sucked so far this year. It is whether you drop him to the waiver wire.
For those dropping him, let's see who you pick up for him. Then take a look at who the guy who picked up Brady exchanged him for.
That difference in value and who improved their team more is the only thing worth discussing. All this other Brady-hating is just Shark Pool BS.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
He looks like a backup throwing to rookies. Idk wtf is wrong with him. I traded Luck and Fred Jackson for him last month... Man I ####ed up... Dropping Foles first who I started this week (wouldn't have mattered as Brady was just as bad), giving Brady the start against MIA since Rivers is on a bye, & if he doesn't find pay dirt twice next week, he's out!
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Bottom line:
10 team leagues borderline droppable
12 team less droppable
14 and up is an unfortunate hold
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Lol. Jets fans crack me up.he was never good to begin with. Just got lucky being a "system" player in a good situation. This is the team that made Drew Bledsoe look good.
First game back and gronk dives at the one yard line and barely drops a onehanded catch behind the secondary.
Now is the time for the buy low play of the year; guppies are ready to drop brady.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Luck also has two games this year with 0 TD passes. Is he droppable, too?
Serious question: do you think Brady will continue to be as non-productive as he has been in October?
Exactly. Even if you think Brady won't turn it around completely, he still has too much value to drop.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Everyone keeps saying he has "value". Uh, what kind of value do you get for a bottom of the barrel QB? TE2? WR4? RB4? I'd rather not have him taking up a roster spot so I could a take flyer on guys like Boykins, Douglas, Kerley, Reed, etc.
The only value Brady has is in his name. I guess if you're in a guppy league that might still count for something.
The only value Brady has is in his name. I guess if you're in a guppy league that might still count for something.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
this should be a rap
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I've been saying since late last year that Brady has lost some arm strength and that it's clearly affecting his accuracy. He threw more terrible passes last year than I've ever seen from him. Welker, Gronk, and Hernandez bailed him out a lot with great catches. When you watch him, he typically looks great throwing right down the middle, but when he starts having to throw to the sidelines or deep downfield the ball is all over the place. The balls are bouncing, 5 feet over the WR's head or just way wide. PFF has actually graded Brady as having the worst adjusted accuracy of any QB right now.
Patriot fans, Brady owners and the stupid media talking heads all kept blaming the young receivers (and so did Brady with all his screaming antics) when it seemed clear to me that Brady's arm is declining and it's having terrible consequences.
I still think a healthy Amendola and healthy Gronk can help Brady put up decent numbers because it will allow Brady to mostly use the middle of the field where arm strength isn't as important. But I think he'll be really hit and miss going to Dobson and Thompkins because of where those guys are running their routes. I fully expect Brady to throw a higher percentage of INTs than he ever has though.
Patriot fans, Brady owners and the stupid media talking heads all kept blaming the young receivers (and so did Brady with all his screaming antics) when it seemed clear to me that Brady's arm is declining and it's having terrible consequences.
I still think a healthy Amendola and healthy Gronk can help Brady put up decent numbers because it will allow Brady to mostly use the middle of the field where arm strength isn't as important. But I think he'll be really hit and miss going to Dobson and Thompkins because of where those guys are running their routes. I fully expect Brady to throw a higher percentage of INTs than he ever has though.
T with T
Footballguy
he's just not the same and def doesn't have the zip and accuracy he used to. All the brady fan boys are hoping on a prayer that when all the wrs come back he will magically turn into a stud qb... If your in a 12 team league he is performing 33 overall that's qb3 numbers which imo is benchable because Im sure as hell gonna put more points in my line up with somoene else and hope and pray the guy I play has brady in his line up... Keenum, clemens,pryor, locker all are probably better plays at this junction and that's super sad to even say. Brady isn't the same guy characters. Im not saying Go drop the guy because that is to ballsy just in case he does pick it up at the end. All Im saying is he better not be in anyone's starting line up or the team is gonna be seriously Handicapped... Especially going against a Manning,brees,rg3,cam,stafford,rivers, etc.GroveDiesel said:
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
MoveToSkypager
Footballguy
I think we all knew how this would turn out.
wilked
Footballguy
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
MoveToSkypager
Footballguy
Ahh yes. Now the people that dropped him said they didn't. Like clockwork.
