Droughns to lose short yardage carries (1 Viewer)

[Righetti]

September 15, 2006, 11:53

Browns :: RB

RB Droughns Losing Short Yardage Carries

Tony Grossi, Plain Dealer - [Full Article]

The removal of RB Reuben Droughns on short-yardage plays against the Saints last Sunday, was evidence that the Browns sixth-round pick Lawrence Vickers would be featured as the Browns short-yardage runner. Droughns had only 11 carries against the Saints

 

[Keys Myaths]

Heh, yikes.

That sucks.

 

[joffer]

The removal of RB Reuben Droughns on short-yardage plays against the Saints last Sunday, was evidence that the Browns sixth-round pick Lawrence Vickers would be featured as the Browns short-yardage runner. Droughns had only 11 carries against the Saints

Vickers had 2 carries for 0 yardsthat's evidence?

 

[softball]

The removal of RB Reuben Droughns on short-yardage plays against the Saints last Sunday, was evidence that the Browns sixth-round pick Lawrence Vickers would be featured as the Browns short-yardage runner. Droughns had only 11 carries against the Saints

Vickers had 2 carries for 0 yardsthat's evidence?

Around these parts it is....

 

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I think it's pretty obvious that the writing is on the wall. The browns plan to have Droughns fitted for a pair of concrete shoes and dropped off a bridge.

 

[gregjcross]

It is kind of funny that when Bellichick used to coach the Brownies he had all kinds of rotations too, like Eric Metcalf and TouchDown Tommy Vardell at RB as well at QB with Testaverde and Todd Philcox or something.

Coach Romeon is from that school I expect all kinds of rotating and bad fantasy results until this team is winning on a regular basis.

The removal of RB Reuben Droughns on short-yardage plays against the Saints last Sunday, was evidence that the Browns sixth-round pick Lawrence Vickers would be featured as the Browns short-yardage runner. Droughns had only 11 carries against the Saints

Vickers had 2 carries for 0 yardsthat's evidence?

 

[PahtyTom]

This is news? I think the real news should be that Browns are talking about getting Droughns the rock a ton in the future, as opposed to what happened last Sunday.

 

[qimqam]

The removal of RB Reuben Droughns on short-yardage plays against the Saints last Sunday, was evidence that the Browns sixth-round pick Lawrence Vickers would be featured as the Browns short-yardage runner. Droughns had only 11 carries against the Saints

Vickers had 2 carries for 0 yardsthat's evidence?

It's evidence that you should not own a Browns RB.

 

[CA_7]

Clear as mud....

Droughns can't feature drone role

Rather, it motivated him to have a better year. He has talked of reaching 1,500 yards.

“You have to prove something every year when you play football,” he said. “Some guys fall off, some guys don’t. I feel I have to prove that I deserve this contract.”

Since last season ended, the Browns talked of complementing Droughns with a change-of-pace back. They drafted Jerome Harrison in the fifth round and showcased him in the preseason.

What nobody fathomed was that yet another rookie back, sixth-round pick Lawrence Vickers, would be featured as a short-yardage runner. Vickers was stopped cold on two third-and-1 attempts in the New Orleans game.

“I knew the ball was going to be spread around a little more,” Droughns said. “I knew we would use different guys in different packages. I hope we can spread the ball around a little bit but use me a little more.”

With no running game to speak of against the Saints, Frye scrambled six times and was sacked five times. Everyone knows the philosophy of the offense must change for the Browns to have a chance Sunday against the heavily favored Cincinnati Bengals. It was General Manager Phil Savage who said the offense will be built around Frye, not through him.

“I think Reuben’s obviously going to get the ball a lot more,” Frye said. “He’s a great back. I think when we’re able to run the ball, it makes my job a lot easier. They can’t focus on just one thing. When we’re balanced, hitting the run and the play-action, I think that’s when we’re at our best.”

Guard Cosey Coleman agreed that there must be an emphasis this week on running the ball.

“When you get the running game going, it does so much more for the passing game,” he said. “As offensive linemen, we take pride in running the ball and moving guys out of the way.

“Running the ball enables you to control the clock and the tempo of the game. I think we’re all on the same page as far as wanting to run the ball, getting Reuben going and wanting to be physical.”

Coach Romeo Crennel has defended the play-calling of offensive coordinator Maurice Carthon by saying Droughns did not make the most of his rushing attempts.

“If things are not working, there’s a hesitancy to keep calling a play that’s not working. I think probably we fell into that a little bit the first half,” Crennel said.

That rationale may also explain the apparent loss of confidence in Droughns in short-yardage situations.

Despite a franchise-record 309 carries last year, Droughns scored only two touchdowns. In his worst game previous to last week, Droughns was stopped four times in a row inside the 5 in a 9-7 win at Oakland.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/plaindeale...&thispage=2

 

[Trap Play]

What are the odds Jerome Harrison gets a shot at the starting gig? Didn't he get psuedo-demoted? Is there value here or is this another Jets, Texans-esque cluster####?

 

[ImTheScientist]

There goes that great value pick/shark move

When was the last time a CLE RB was worthy of a high draft selection.

 

[brakeyawself]

I think Harrison got more looks and PT than Vickers last week.

 

[jon_mx]

Vickers had 2 carries for 0 yardsthat's evidence?

Yes, but he got all his yards on one play. If you remove that play...

 

[Lauryn]

Vickers had 2 carries for 0 yardsthat's evidence?

Yes, but he got all his yards on one play. If you remove that play...

some cliches never get old

 

[Restricted]

I think Harrison got more looks and PT than Vickers last week.

If I remember right, Harrison also had 2 carries - 14 yards.

 

[Dreamer]

There goes that great value pick/shark move When was the last time a CLE RB was worthy of a high draft selection.

Jim Brown - 1965

 

[Chaos Commish]

September 15, 2006, 11:53

Browns :: RB

RB Droughns Losing Short Yardage Carries

Tony Grossi, Plain Dealer - [Full Article]

The removal of RB Reuben Droughns on short-yardage plays against the Saints last Sunday, was evidence that the Browns sixth-round pick Lawrence Vickers would be featured as the Browns short-yardage runner. Droughns had only 11 carries against the Saints

This would be the second time in two weeks an unlinked report about Cleveland RBs was wrong. Righetti, you should change the title to "Droughns might lose short yardage carries but probably not anymore than any other featured back in the NFL."

KFFL? Rotowire? Thanks.

 

[Lauryn]

September 15, 2006, 11:53

Browns :: RB

RB Droughns Losing Short Yardage Carries

Tony Grossi, Plain Dealer - [Full Article]

The removal of RB Reuben Droughns on short-yardage plays against the Saints last Sunday, was evidence that the Browns sixth-round pick Lawrence Vickers would be featured as the Browns short-yardage runner. Droughns had only 11 carries against the Saints

This would be the second time in two weeks an unlinked report about Cleveland RBs was wrong. Righetti, you should change the title to "Droughns might lose short yardage carries but probably not anymore than any other featured back in the NFL."

KFFL? Rotowire? Thanks.

tony grossi's word not good enough for you?

 

[Lombardi's Orphan Son]

that ball club is scrambling right now. they refused to bring in any sort of back up talent at QB, devastating injuries to the franchise lineman, and now they are messing with one of the more stable portions of their offense by trying to work in 2 rooks. for what? are they looking for the top pick in the '07 draft.

why don't they hire a first time offensive coordinator. oh, they did that too.

it's no wonder the Browns suck.

-orphan

 

[pghrob]

It was one week fellas. One week. The demise of Droughns based on a week one crapper is reading too much into it. Buying some speculation that reporter writes based on one game is guppy.

Vickers doesn't look to be the short yardage back any more than Droughns or Harrison. The reporter seems to be making assumptions based on how Crennel employed the RB's v. the Saints. Look at the facts:

1. They gave Droughns a raise in the offseason

2. He is an accomplished runner with multiple 1200 + yard seasons

3. While he has not been a classic "Shortyard runner" or TD monger, he has more exp. than Harrison and Vickers combined (Think fumble risks now)

4. We have not seen any quotes from the coaches to believe that Droughns won't get regular chances at the GL.

Let's see the glass as half full and give the Browns a chance to work out the early season kinks before we flush Droughns and any reasonable expectations for a decent RB2 season.

 

[Traders2001]

I read somewhere yesterday that they were going to give him back the goal line carries cause it did nt work out with ( Vickers if i am wrong on the name dont pop a gasket ).

 

[TinHat]

I wouldn't say he going to lose the GL carries - just that it's apparent that the team is looking at other options. It's bad news for RD owners.

 

[Andrew]

Vickers had 2 carries for 0 yardsthat's evidence?

Yes, but he got all his yards on one play. If you remove that play...

Love it.

 

[SpaceCowboy]

I wouldn't say he going to lose the GL carries - just that it's apparent that the team is looking at other options. It's bad news for RD owners.

In fairness, he had 2 td's on 309 carries last year. Anyone that drafted him expecting 10-15 td's was fishing.I believed he could at least get 5-6, but who knows..

 

[SteelerMurf]

The removal of RB Reuben Droughns on short-yardage plays against the Saints last Sunday, was evidence that the Browns sixth-round pick Lawrence Vickers would be featured as the Browns short-yardage runner. Droughns had only 11 carries against the Saints

Vickers had 2 carries for 0 yardsthat's evidence?

I don't remember a year like this before. Fantasy world is jumping off cliffs anytime a feature back is replaced at any point during a game.Stephen Davis

Vickers

Suggs

Duckett

Davenport

etc, etc

The list goes on and on. And the panic never stops.

If a RB doesn't get 30 carries and 10 catches a game he is garbage. No other RB is to touch the field or the ball.

 

[Routilla]

I thought Cleveland sucked. Does it even matter?

 

[Tiger Fan]

There goes that great value pick/shark move When was the last time a CLE RB was worthy of a high draft selection.

Last year

 

[Dreamer]

There goes that great value pick/shark move When was the last time a CLE RB was worthy of a high draft selection.

Last year

Wrong answer.2 TDs.3 -100 yard games.I'll pass thanks.

 

[packersfan]

There goes that great value pick/shark move When was the last time a CLE RB was worthy of a high draft selection.

Last year

Wrong answer.2 TDs.3 -100 yard games.I'll pass thanks.

It was actually the correct answer. Droughns ranked 14th in standard scoring leagues last year. In retrospect, he clearly deserved a high draft choice. This year's outcome remains to be seen.

 

[Dreamer]

There goes that great value pick/shark move

When was the last time a CLE RB was worthy of a high draft selection.

Last year

Wrong answer.2 TDs.

3 -100 yard games.

I'll pass thanks.

It was actually the correct answer. Droughns ranked 14th in standard scoring leagues last year. In retrospect, he clearly deserved a high draft choice. This year's outcome remains to be seen.

:( Clearly drafting middle of the pack limited upside suckity sucks with a "high draft selection" is not good strategy. Middle of the pack suckity sucks with limited upside get picked when they are good value and fall in your laps.

And he may have been the 14th ranked RB, but probably more like 70th overall, slightly ahead of other studs such as Chris Brown who must also deserve a "high draft selection" in your eyes.

 

[H.K.]

Droughns has no value, in any league size or format.

 

[packersfan]

There goes that great value pick/shark move

When was the last time a CLE RB was worthy of a high draft selection.

Last year

Wrong answer.2 TDs.

3 -100 yard games.

I'll pass thanks.

It was actually the correct answer. Droughns ranked 14th in standard scoring leagues last year. In retrospect, he clearly deserved a high draft choice. This year's outcome remains to be seen.

:( Clearly drafting middle of the pack limited upside suckity sucks with a "high draft selection" is not good strategy. Middle of the pack suckity sucks with limited upside get picked when they are good value and fall in your laps.

And he may have been the 14th ranked RB, but probably more like 70th overall, slightly ahead of other studs such as Chris Brown who must also deserve a "high draft selection" in your eyes.

Hardly. I do not know where Droughns ranked overall. I do know that he was a Top 15 RB last season in many scoring leagues (including standard scoring leagues which I posted above). And I do know that in many fantasy leagues, a Top 15 RB will constitute a high draft choice. Where did the Top 15 RBs in your league get drafted this year, for example?

 

[Dreamer]

There goes that great value pick/shark move

When was the last time a CLE RB was worthy of a high draft selection.

Last year

Wrong answer.2 TDs.

3 -100 yard games.

I'll pass thanks.

It was actually the correct answer. Droughns ranked 14th in standard scoring leagues last year. In retrospect, he clearly deserved a high draft choice. This year's outcome remains to be seen.

:( Clearly drafting middle of the pack limited upside suckity sucks with a "high draft selection" is not good strategy. Middle of the pack suckity sucks with limited upside get picked when they are good value and fall in your laps.

And he may have been the 14th ranked RB, but probably more like 70th overall, slightly ahead of other studs such as Chris Brown who must also deserve a "high draft selection" in your eyes.

Hardly. I do not know where Droughns ranked overall. I do know that he was a Top 15 RB last season in many scoring leagues (including standard scoring leagues which I posted above). And I do know that in many fantasy leagues, a Top 15 RB will constitute a high draft choice. Where did the Top 15 RBs in your league get drafted this year, for example?

You don't get it.

 

[packersfan]

There goes that great value pick/shark move

When was the last time a CLE RB was worthy of a high draft selection.

Last year

Wrong answer.2 TDs.

3 -100 yard games.

I'll pass thanks.

It was actually the correct answer. Droughns ranked 14th in standard scoring leagues last year. In retrospect, he clearly deserved a high draft choice. This year's outcome remains to be seen.

:( Clearly drafting middle of the pack limited upside suckity sucks with a "high draft selection" is not good strategy. Middle of the pack suckity sucks with limited upside get picked when they are good value and fall in your laps.

And he may have been the 14th ranked RB, but probably more like 70th overall, slightly ahead of other studs such as Chris Brown who must also deserve a "high draft selection" in your eyes.

Hardly. I do not know where Droughns ranked overall. I do know that he was a Top 15 RB last season in many scoring leagues (including standard scoring leagues which I posted above). And I do know that in many fantasy leagues, a Top 15 RB will constitute a high draft choice. Where did the Top 15 RBs in your league get drafted this year, for example?

You don't get it.

I'm certain that I do. The question was asked when a Browns' RB merited a high draft choice and the answer based on Droughns' production was last year given how in many (if not the vast majority) fantasy leagues a Top 15 RB will be taken with a high draft choice. Do you dispute this point? Whether he merited a high draft choice this year remains to be seen. Dodds advocated taking him in the second round of all drafts in his Perfect Draft article. My opinion is that was too high for Droughns but if you could get him in the third or fourth round (I got him in the fourth as my RB3) that would prove to be a better spot to take him. After Week 1, that pick isn't looking too good but it's obviously a long season with a lot of football left to be played so we'll see what happens.

 

[Islander]

Droughns has no value, in any league size or format.

 

[Dreamer]

My opinion is that he is not worth a high pick. There is very little chance he "blows up". Thus I pass. By the time he becomes value to me, some other sucker has thrown away his season and will start an average to less than average player every week because they drafted them in the 2nd round.

PASS.

 

[Bri]

The removal of RB Reuben Droughns on short-yardage plays against the Saints last Sunday, was evidence that the Browns sixth-round pick Lawrence Vickers would be featured as the Browns short-yardage runner. Droughns had only 11 carries against the Saints

Vickers had 2 carries for 0 yardsthat's evidence?

That's what I thought as well. It seems to me like Romeo is trying to get his stud some breathers but doesn't have the depth he needs to do it. I would imagine it's easier to put Harrison in on a few more plays and just roll with Droughns at the GL. I wonder how short a leash Vickers will have.

 

[Tiger Fan]

There goes that great value pick/shark move When was the last time a CLE RB was worthy of a high draft selection.

Last year

Wrong answer.2 TDs.3 -100 yard games.I'll pass thanks.

In PPR he was a top 15 back. Worth a 3rd rounder last year, although you could have had him a lot later

 

[Da Guru]

I never evaluate a player fully until after 4 games. Then a pattern emerges. Droughs stunk it up early last year as well it my memory serves me correct.

 

[Bri]

I never evaluate a player fully until after 4 games. Then a pattern emerges. Droughs stunk it up early last year as well it my memory serves me correct.

Many people have said this over the years. May I ask how this is possible? Aren't you forced to evaluate a player when deciding WDIS?

 

[Irish]

The removal of RB Reuben Droughns on short-yardage plays against the Saints last Sunday, was evidence that the Browns sixth-round pick Lawrence Vickers would be featured as the Browns short-yardage runner. Droughns had only 11 carries against the Saints

Vickers had 2 carries for 0 yardsthat's evidence?

That's what I thought as well. It seems to me like Romeo is trying to get his stud some breathers but doesn't have the depth he needs to do it. I would imagine it's easier to put Harrison in on a few more plays and just roll with Droughns at the GL. I wonder how short a leash Vickers will have.

Droughns is not a STUD.

 

[CowboyFan]

I think Harrison got more looks and PT than Vickers last week.

If I remember right, Harrison also had 2 carries - 14 yards.

7 YPC What's wrong with the coaching staff? Give this kid the rock more, he is a stud in waiting (yes, he is sitting at the end of my bench, just waiting to start)

 

[AB in DC]

There goes that great value pick/shark move

When was the last time a CLE RB was worthy of a high draft selection.

Last year

Wrong answer.2 TDs.

3 -100 yard games.

I'll pass thanks.

Is that the only way a RB can score points in your league?Most non-guppy leagues would have given him points for the 1601 yards he racked up last year.

 

[lions327]

I never evaluate a player fully until after 4 games. Then a pattern emerges. Droughs stunk it up early last year as well it my memory serves me correct.

 

[AB in DC]

I never evaluate a player fully until after 4 games. Then a pattern emerges. Droughs stunk it up early last year as well it my memory serves me correct.

wk 1: 100 yardswk 2: 79 yardswk 3: 108 yardswk 4: 93 yardsAverage of 18 carries and 3.5 receptions per week.

 

[Lauryn]

Droughns has no value, in any league size or format.

tough crowd

 

[FreeBaGeL]

What's the big deal here? Did anyone really have Droughns projected to put up more than 3 or 4 scores anyway?

 

[Materdei]

There goes that great value pick/shark move

When was the last time a CLE RB was worthy of a high draft selection.

Last year

Wrong answer.2 TDs.

3 -100 yard games.

I'll pass thanks.

It was actually the correct answer. Droughns ranked 14th in standard scoring leagues last year. In retrospect, he clearly deserved a high draft choice. This year's outcome remains to be seen.

:( Clearly drafting middle of the pack limited upside suckity sucks with a "high draft selection" is not good strategy. Middle of the pack suckity sucks with limited upside get picked when they are good value and fall in your laps.

And he may have been the 14th ranked RB, but probably more like 70th overall, slightly ahead of other studs such as Chris Brown who must also deserve a "high draft selection" in your eyes.

Hardly. I do not know where Droughns ranked overall. I do know that he was a Top 15 RB last season in many scoring leagues (including standard scoring leagues which I posted above). And I do know that in many fantasy leagues, a Top 15 RB will constitute a high draft choice. Where did the Top 15 RBs in your league get drafted this year, for example?

You don't get it.

I'm certain that I do. The question was asked when a Browns' RB merited a high draft choice and the answer based on Droughns' production was last year given how in many (if not the vast majority) fantasy leagues a Top 15 RB will be taken with a high draft choice. Do you dispute this point? Whether he merited a high draft choice this year remains to be seen. Dodds advocated taking him in the second round of all drafts in his Perfect Draft article. My opinion is that was too high for Droughns but if you could get him in the third or fourth round (I got him in the fourth as my RB3) that would prove to be a better spot to take him. After Week 1, that pick isn't looking too good but it's obviously a long season with a lot of football left to be played so we'll see what happens.

"In Dodds we trust" I think Dodds bailed on you and is leading the leap off the cliff. Wk 1 rank: 7, Wk 2 rank: 35

 

[Bri]

The removal of RB Reuben Droughns on short-yardage plays against the Saints last Sunday, was evidence that the Browns sixth-round pick Lawrence Vickers would be featured as the Browns short-yardage runner. Droughns had only 11 carries against the Saints

Vickers had 2 carries for 0 yardsthat's evidence?

That's what I thought as well. It seems to me like Romeo is trying to get his stud some breathers but doesn't have the depth he needs to do it. I would imagine it's easier to put Harrison in on a few more plays and just roll with Droughns at the GL. I wonder how short a leash Vickers will have.

Droughns is not a STUD.

It wasn't an FF categorization but how I figured Romeo feels about his player. He's all he has, would you prefer "workhorse back" "sled dog"? whatever makes ya feel better...think of that word

 

[Tiger Fan]

In a PPR league, Droughns was RB15 in 2004 and RB14 in 2005.

The following were his game by game point totals from last year

13

11.9

13.8

13.3

6.3

12.9

9.9

22.9

22.3

23.9

16.9

8.8

8.8

13.4

7.5

5.5