Dude I know claims he lost 130 lbs since April (1 Viewer)

[Michael Brown]

So this guy I went to high school with, always a bit of a weirdo, puts up a big bragging post on Facebook today about how he is down 130 lbs in the last three months. So naturally a few people are like "Wow congrats that's so awesome blah blah blah." So I ask him why he's obviously lying. A few people come to his defense, and I'm soon accused of "hating on him" for his success.

So medically, this is obviously not possible. He's about 5'6". He didn't have gastric bypass, and he is saying he went from around 270 to 140 by cutting calories from 3500 a day to 1500 a day and "swimming". A couple of fellow wiseasses suggested he might wanna take an AIDS test, but he says no illness is involved. What's the most weight a human can lose in this timeframe without their heart exploding? Are there Guinness World Records kept of stuff like this?

 

[rodg12]

Had to have Gastric bypass...

 

[playin4beer]

Why are you a hater?

 

[James Daulton]

Yep, bypass is the answer. You could go from 450 - 320 in 3 months I bet, but not starting from 270.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Had to have Gastric bypass...

No other way it is physically possible, unless his baseline was like 2 tons.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I lost 40 pounds in 4 months and Weight Watchers was all over me every week for losing too much weight too fast.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Can we see the whole facebook thread with names blocked out?

 

[Sarnoff]

Maybe he was in a car accident and lost both his legs?

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

I started the same time, at 270. I never counted calories before, but started strictly following a 2,000 calories per day regimen. I also started a Couch-to-5K program three days a week, going from no exercise at all.

It was a major lifestyle change for me and I've dropped 45 pounds. I can't fathom amything this guy would have done to drop 130 lbs.

 

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Can we see the whole facebook thread with names blocked out?

40lb per month consistently for sub 300lb individual is bull#### or doing irreparable harm to his organs.

10-12lb a month over time is generally considered to be the upper limit of safe weight loss unless a critical case doctor-observed care.

 

[Michael Brown]

Yeah I've been trying to eat better and exercise a bit. I'm losing like 1-2 pounds a week to get down to like 185-190 range, pretty normal stuff. The fact that he's so casually talking about losing 10-12 lbs a week like it's easy if you just focus on it, sounded so bizarre that I had to ask if it was humanly possible.

 

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I started the same time, at 270. I never counted calories before, but started strictly following a 2,000 calories per day regimen. I also started a Couch-to-5K program three days a week, going from no exercise at all.

It was a major lifestyle change for me and I've dropped 45 pounds. I can't fathom amything this guy would have done to drop 130 lbs.

congrats!

 

[Todem]

BS

 

[Michael Brown]

Can we see the whole facebook thread with names blocked out?

40lb per month consistently for sub 300lb individual is bull#### or doing irreparable harm to his organs.

10-12lb a month over time is generally considered to be the upper limit of safe weight loss unless a critical case doctor-observed care.

If I knew how to post a FB thread here, I'd do it. I'm Internet illiterate with that stuff. I just do the sports and pron.

 

[fantasycurse42]

FTR, I swim 5x a week too... I'm about 6'2. About 4-5 months ago I was around 230. My calorie intake over the last 5 months was reduced to 1500-2000 a day. On top of the swimming, I lift weights for about an hour those same 5x a week. I'm fluctuating around 205-210 right now. My goal was cutting fat and adding muscle. I find it impossible that what he is saying is even the slightest bit true. Even with surgery, I still don't think he could drop basically in half.

Culdeus seems to know a lot about this ####. His input would be good here.

 

[Michael Brown]

I started the same time, at 270. I never counted calories before, but started strictly following a 2,000 calories per day regimen. I also started a Couch-to-5K program three days a week, going from no exercise at all.

It was a major lifestyle change for me and I've dropped 45 pounds. I can't fathom amything this guy would have done to drop 130 lbs.

congrats!

Yeah see? This is awesome, and I would've congratulated him on his success too if this was the story he posted. I don't know why but it just bothered me that he posted this nonsense and people were eating it up. Looks like some posts have since been deleted. Maybe they realized how INSANE it sounds.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Can we see the whole facebook thread with names blocked out?

40lb per month consistently for sub 300lb individual is bull#### or doing irreparable harm to his organs.

10-12lb a month over time is generally considered to be the upper limit of safe weight loss unless a critical case doctor-observed care.

If I knew how to post a FB thread here, I'd do it. I'm Internet illiterate with that stuff. I just do the sports and pron.

You could always just copy-paste and replace the names with Person1, Person2, etc

 

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Yeah I've been trying to eat better and exercise a bit. I'm losing like 1-2 pounds a week to get down to like 185-190 range, pretty normal stuff. The fact that he's so casually talking about losing 10-12 lbs a week like it's easy if you just focus on it, sounded so bizarre that I had to ask if it was humanly possible.

A pound is ~3500 calories.

10 pounds a week is 35,000 calorie deficit.

He would need a 5000 calorie per day deficit to lose that weight.

He is consuming 1500 calories per day.... meaning he must be burning 6500 calories per day.

200lb man doing the breast stroke burns ROUGHLY 500 calories per hour.

So he's swimming 13 hours a day nonstop ... or he's full of ####.

I would LOVE to meet a guy who could swim 13 hours a day on a 1500 calorie diet... for 3 months.

 

[culdeus]

So this guy I went to high school with, always a bit of a weirdo, puts up a big bragging post on Facebook today about how he is down 130 lbs in the last three months. So naturally a few people are like "Wow congrats that's so awesome blah blah blah." So I ask him why he's obviously lying. A few people come to his defense, and I'm soon accused of "hating on him" for his success.

So medically, this is obviously not possible. He's about 5'6". He didn't have gastric bypass, and he is saying he went from around 270 to 140 by cutting calories from 3500 a day to 1500 a day and "swimming". A couple of fellow wiseasses suggested he might wanna take an AIDS test, but he says no illness is involved. What's the most weight a human can lose in this timeframe without their heart exploding? Are there Guinness World Records kept of stuff like this?

It would take a caloric defect of 4300 calories to his BMR.

Every day.

So if he ate to BMR and then swam for 6 solid hours every day at a championship Ironman pace.

Then, yeah it's possible.

 

[Michael Brown]

Maybe he was in a car accident and lost both his legs?

I thought about this, but the majority of his weight is in his stomach and giant face.

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

I started the same time, at 270. I never counted calories before, but started strictly following a 2,000 calories per day regimen. I also started a Couch-to-5K program three days a week, going from no exercise at all.

It was a major lifestyle change for me and I've dropped 45 pounds. I can't fathom amything this guy would have done to drop 130 lbs.

congrats!

 

[Michael Brown]

Yeah I've been trying to eat better and exercise a bit. I'm losing like 1-2 pounds a week to get down to like 185-190 range, pretty normal stuff. The fact that he's so casually talking about losing 10-12 lbs a week like it's easy if you just focus on it, sounded so bizarre that I had to ask if it was humanly possible.

A pound is ~3500 calories.

10 pounds a week is 35,000 calorie deficit.

He would need a 5000 calorie per day deficit to lose that weight.

He is consuming 1500 calories per day.... meaning he must be burning 6500 calories per day.

200lb man doing the breast stroke burns ROUGHLY 500 calories per hour.

So he's swimming 13 hours a day nonstop... or he's full of ####.

Thanks Ike, this is the kind of math I was looking for

 

[culdeus]

Yeah I've been trying to eat better and exercise a bit. I'm losing like 1-2 pounds a week to get down to like 185-190 range, pretty normal stuff. The fact that he's so casually talking about losing 10-12 lbs a week like it's easy if you just focus on it, sounded so bizarre that I had to ask if it was humanly possible.

A pound is ~3500 calories.

10 pounds a week is 35,000 calorie deficit.

He would need a 5000 calorie per day deficit to lose that weight.

He is consuming 1500 calories per day.... meaning he must be burning 6500 calories per day.

200lb man doing the breast stroke burns ROUGHLY 500 calories per hour.

So he's swimming 13 hours a day nonstop... or he's full of ####.

You are more conservative with some of your numbers than I was. I at least gave him the benefit of the doubt of being a world class swimmer.

 

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I at least gave him the benefit of the doubt of being a world class swimmer.

 

[culdeus]

Yeah I've been trying to eat better and exercise a bit. I'm losing like 1-2 pounds a week to get down to like 185-190 range, pretty normal stuff. The fact that he's so casually talking about losing 10-12 lbs a week like it's easy if you just focus on it, sounded so bizarre that I had to ask if it was humanly possible.

A pound is ~3500 calories.

10 pounds a week is 35,000 calorie deficit.

He would need a 5000 calorie per day deficit to lose that weight.

He is consuming 1500 calories per day.... meaning he must be burning 6500 calories per day.

200lb man doing the breast stroke burns ROUGHLY 500 calories per hour.

So he's swimming 13 hours a day nonstop... or he's full of ####.

Thanks Ike, this is the kind of math I was looking for

If he did lipo and a ketogenic diet with tons of cardio then it's plausible.

Surgery has to be involved here.

 

[eoMMan]

I assume he didn't post before and after pics?

 

[FUBAR]

Maybe he was in a car accident and lost both his legs? His wife

 

[Henry Ford]

Yeah I've been trying to eat better and exercise a bit. I'm losing like 1-2 pounds a week to get down to like 185-190 range, pretty normal stuff. The fact that he's so casually talking about losing 10-12 lbs a week like it's easy if you just focus on it, sounded so bizarre that I had to ask if it was humanly possible.

A pound is ~3500 calories.

10 pounds a week is 35,000 calorie deficit.

He would need a 5000 calorie per day deficit to lose that weight.

He is consuming 1500 calories per day.... meaning he must be burning 6500 calories per day.

200lb man doing the breast stroke burns ROUGHLY 500 calories per hour.

So he's swimming 13 hours a day nonstop ... or he's full of ####.

I would LOVE to meet a guy who could swim 13 hours a day on a 1500 calorie diet... for 3 months.

You're not factoring in resting calorie burning - a 270 pound man probably burns 2500 calories a day without getting out of bed.

And at 270, he'll burn more than 500 calories in an hour of breast stroke. Closer to 700. Basically, we're talking about 5-6 hours of swimming a day. Which is still essentially impossible.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Was he on Naked and Afraid for 4 back to back episodes?

 

[The_Man]

So this guy I went to high school with, always a bit of a weirdo, puts up a big bragging post on Facebook today about how he is down 130 lbs in the last three months. So naturally a few people are like "Wow congrats that's so awesome blah blah blah." So I ask him why he's obviously lying. A few people come to his defense, and I'm soon accused of "hating on him" for his success.

So medically, this is obviously not possible. He's about 5'6". He didn't have gastric bypass, and he is saying he went from around 270 to 140 by cutting calories from 3500 a day to 1500 a day and "swimming". A couple of fellow wiseasses suggested he might wanna take an AIDS test, but he says no illness is involved. What's the most weight a human can lose in this timeframe without their heart exploding? Are there Guinness World Records kept of stuff like this?

So you're publicly feuding with a weirdo you know from high school about his alleged weight loss? Not sure I can see the upside, even if you do expose his falsehood.

 

[MC Gas Money]

Its possible with drugs

 

[Michael Brown]

I assume he didn't post before and after pics?

No, they were requested by someone else and he promised them but has yet to deliver. Starting to wonder if the whole thing wasn't just made up. For what reason, I have no friggin idea.

 

[fantasycurse42]

So this guy I went to high school with, always a bit of a weirdo, puts up a big bragging post on Facebook today about how he is down 130 lbs in the last three months. So naturally a few people are like "Wow congrats that's so awesome blah blah blah." So I ask him why he's obviously lying. A few people come to his defense, and I'm soon accused of "hating on him" for his success.

So medically, this is obviously not possible. He's about 5'6". He didn't have gastric bypass, and he is saying he went from around 270 to 140 by cutting calories from 3500 a day to 1500 a day and "swimming". A couple of fellow wiseasses suggested he might wanna take an AIDS test, but he says no illness is involved. What's the most weight a human can lose in this timeframe without their heart exploding? Are there Guinness World Records kept of stuff like this?

So you're publicly feuding with a weirdo you know from high school about his alleged weight loss? Not sure I can see the upside, even if you do expose his falsehood.

 

[Michael Brown]

So this guy I went to high school with, always a bit of a weirdo, puts up a big bragging post on Facebook today about how he is down 130 lbs in the last three months. So naturally a few people are like "Wow congrats that's so awesome blah blah blah." So I ask him why he's obviously lying. A few people come to his defense, and I'm soon accused of "hating on him" for his success.

So medically, this is obviously not possible. He's about 5'6". He didn't have gastric bypass, and he is saying he went from around 270 to 140 by cutting calories from 3500 a day to 1500 a day and "swimming". A couple of fellow wiseasses suggested he might wanna take an AIDS test, but he says no illness is involved. What's the most weight a human can lose in this timeframe without their heart exploding? Are there Guinness World Records kept of stuff like this?

So you're publicly feuding with a weirdo you know from high school about his alleged weight loss? Not sure I can see the upside, even if you do expose his falsehood.

Yeah I kinda thought of this after my first comment, but I'm pot committed at this point

 

[Godsbrother]

Maybe he is talking Dog-pounds

 

[TheIronSheik]

So this guy I went to high school with, always a bit of a weirdo, puts up a big bragging post on Facebook today about how he is down 130 lbs in the last three months. So naturally a few people are like "Wow congrats that's so awesome blah blah blah." So I ask him why he's obviously lying. A few people come to his defense, and I'm soon accused of "hating on him" for his success.

So medically, this is obviously not possible. He's about 5'6". He didn't have gastric bypass, and he is saying he went from around 270 to 140 by cutting calories from 3500 a day to 1500 a day and "swimming". A couple of fellow wiseasses suggested he might wanna take an AIDS test, but he says no illness is involved. What's the most weight a human can lose in this timeframe without their heart exploding? Are there Guinness World Records kept of stuff like this?

So you're publicly feuding with a weirdo you know from high school about his alleged weight loss? Not sure I can see the upside, even if you do expose his falsehood.

Yeah I kinda thought of this after my first comment, but I'm pot committed at this point

 

[TheIronSheik]

Maybe he is talking Dog-pounds

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Kimelman

A native of the Bronx, NY, Paul moved to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania with his mother, Olga Kimelman, in the early 1960s. As a 19-year-old, Paul reached his peak weight; more than 520 pounds. Starting in 1967, as a New Year's resolution, he decided to start fasting to lose weight because he was tired of being ridiculed.[2] In an interview posted in the Boca Raton News on March 22, 1981, Paul made this statement on the resolution, "I quit eating right there. I fasted for as long as I could, then after that it was just clear soups, grapefruit juice,skim milk, and salads." Paul lost 357 pounds in 8 months, going from 487 to 130 pounds. His achievement was recognized by The Guinness Book of World Records. Not only did he hold the Record for more than 12 years, he was also on the cover of the book in 1982.

 

[Michael Brown]

Maybe he is talking Dog-pounds

 

[Michael Brown]

Well I gave up. I posted Icon's math formula, and he started in about how it's easier for obese people to lose weight, how he used to be stagnant and now he's active, etc, etc. I'm not gonna get into it with somebody who will argue against the rules of math. I'll bump this thread if/when he reveals his AIDS diagnosis.

 

[DaVinci]

Maybe he got divorced.

 

[Al O'Pecia]

Yep, bypass is the answer. You could go from 450 - 320 in 3 months I bet, but not starting from 270.

Not true.My brother graduated high school at 5'10", 290 lbs. He said that he was sick of being the fat guy that chicks wouldn't even consider in a sexual manner. So, that summer, he bought a food scale, measured out everything he ate, and barely took in enough to survive. Meanwhile, he worked out like a man possessed, several hours a day. By the time he was ready to ship off to college three months later he weighed 170 lbs. he lost 120 lbs. in three months, and he did it all natural.

That kind of rapid weight loss had its consequences, though. He had to have his gall bladder removed, and he still looked like a guy that girls didn't want to lay because he had roll upon roll of loose skin.

So I know that kind of natural weight loss is possible because I've seen it done. But I also know that level of natural weight loss is exceedingly rare, and most examples of losing 100+ lbs. in just a few months is the result of gastric bypass.

 

[James Daulton]

Yep, bypass is the answer. You could go from 450 - 320 in 3 months I bet, but not starting from 270.

Not true.My brother graduated high school at 5'10", 290 lbs. He said that he was sick of being the fat guy that chicks wouldn't even consider in a sexual manner. So, that summer, he bought a food scale, measured out everything he ate, and barely took in enough to survive. Meanwhile, he worked out like a man possessed, several hours a day. By the time he was ready to ship off to college three months later he weighed 170 lbs. he lost 120 lbs. in three months, and he did it all natural.

That kind of rapid weight loss had its consequences, though. He had to have his gall bladder removed, and he still looked like a guy that girls didn't want to lay because he had roll upon roll of loose skin.

So I know that kind of natural weight loss is possible because I've seen it done. But I also know that level of natural weight loss is exceedingly rare, and most examples of losing 100+ lbs. in just a few months is the result of gastric bypass.

In order to achieve the above, he'd need a calorie deficit in excess of 4,500 calories each and every day. I wasn't there but my guess would be that he had something else going on (sickness most likely) that was the real reason his body was burning that many calories. Or he really didn't weigh 290 to start. You really can't workout that much as has been noted in previous posts.

 

[Sand]

I'm going with an ovarian cyst.

Either that or a concentration camp.

 

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Yeah I've been trying to eat better and exercise a bit. I'm losing like 1-2 pounds a week to get down to like 185-190 range, pretty normal stuff. The fact that he's so casually talking about losing 10-12 lbs a week like it's easy if you just focus on it, sounded so bizarre that I had to ask if it was humanly possible.

A pound is ~3500 calories.

10 pounds a week is 35,000 calorie deficit.

He would need a 5000 calorie per day deficit to lose that weight.

He is consuming 1500 calories per day.... meaning he must be burning 6500 calories per day.

200lb man doing the breast stroke burns ROUGHLY 500 calories per hour.

So he's swimming 13 hours a day nonstop ... or he's full of ####.

I would LOVE to meet a guy who could swim 13 hours a day on a 1500 calorie diet... for 3 months.

You're not factoring in resting calorie burning - a 270 pound man probably burns 2500 calories a day without getting out of bed.

And at 270, he'll burn more than 500 calories in an hour of breast stroke. Closer to 700. Basically, we're talking about 5-6 hours of swimming a day. Which is still essentially impossible.

Correct on my omission of BMR. That was an oversight.

Correct on caloric assumpion for 270lb man... However we've got a rapidly declining number, 140 pound split over loss split over 3 months puts his median weight at 200lbs. Hence my use of that number.

 

[Politician Spock]

Yeah, this is why you shouldn't "friend" people just because you went to high school with them, mmmkay.

 

[culdeus]

Yeah I've been trying to eat better and exercise a bit. I'm losing like 1-2 pounds a week to get down to like 185-190 range, pretty normal stuff. The fact that he's so casually talking about losing 10-12 lbs a week like it's easy if you just focus on it, sounded so bizarre that I had to ask if it was humanly possible.

A pound is ~3500 calories.

10 pounds a week is 35,000 calorie deficit.

He would need a 5000 calorie per day deficit to lose that weight.

He is consuming 1500 calories per day.... meaning he must be burning 6500 calories per day.

200lb man doing the breast stroke burns ROUGHLY 500 calories per hour.

So he's swimming 13 hours a day nonstop ... or he's full of ####.

I would LOVE to meet a guy who could swim 13 hours a day on a 1500 calorie diet... for 3 months.

You're not factoring in resting calorie burning - a 270 pound man probably burns 2500 calories a day without getting out of bed.

And at 270, he'll burn more than 500 calories in an hour of breast stroke. Closer to 700. Basically, we're talking about 5-6 hours of swimming a day. Which is still essentially impossible.

Correct on my omission of BMR. That was an oversight.

Correct on caloric assumpion for 270lb man... However we've got a rapidly declining number, 140 pound split over loss split over 3 months puts his median weight at 200lbs. Hence my use of that number.

He could, if he was so inclined, point out the fact that in a rapid weight loss BMR doesn't drop in a linear fashion. At least not initially.

If he was truly exercising hardcore he might have maintained some of his LBM. It would have been difficult, but if he timed his meals correctly it's not impossible.

But even if you give him credit for BMR of a 250 pound man throughout he's still got to overcome a huge gap to reality.

 

[Michael Brown]

Yeah, this is why you shouldn't "friend" people just because you went to high school with them, mmmkay.

I know. When I first got my FB account, I thought it would be a good idea to accept any and all requests and send a bunch too. I'm in sales, so I figured all networking was good networking. Five years later, I see the error of my ways...

 

[NutterButter]

did anyone ask if he still has all his limbs?

 

[Osaurus]

35 lbs since April for me due mostly to stress and eating little. Without bypass, he would have to be dead to lose that much weight that fast. Guess I don't know why he is not honest with people.