Dumb Trades (1 Viewer)

[MaddHatter]

This is meant to be a light-hearted trade thread.

Just for example, I am deep at WR in my dynasty league and put Randy Moss on the trade block, requesting a stud RB. You know, something valuable in return.

Someone shot me an offer of Larry Johnson/Justin Forsett/Julius Jones for him.

Seriously.

I have seen some dumb trade offers before. One guy in our league was offered Johnny Knox/Steve Slaton/Ryan Moats for LeSean McCoy/Donald Driver. I told him I thought it was a joke but whatever.

Anybody else get dumb trades sent to them and if so, give me a good laugh, I need one.

 

[armyeric]

Ok I have a great one for you, owning Peterson, Jones-Drew, and benson I get a lot of offers every week but none that would be even close.

This is the trade that I was offered this week, Peterson and Benson, Sims-Walker for Andre Caldwell, Marques Colsten, Jocoby Jones.

While Colsten is a good value this owner tried to sell me that Andre and Jocoby were going to get more looks in there offenses.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Yaknowwhat...... I know what you mean, but I thought this post was going to be about something else:

Owners who accept stupid trade offers, or make them going the other way, thereby skewing the rest of the season's standings.

On receiving poor trade offers.... well, so what? Counter offer, if they want to trade Colston tell them what you will give for them.

 

[EdwardCat]

Yeah, I thought it was going to be about players who accept stupid trades as well.

 

[pantagrapher]

An owner offered me Hasselbeck for R. Moss straight up earlier this season. I had just lost McNabb to the rib injury and didn't have a backup QB. But still. It's the first year of this league, it's a dynasty league and he's also the commish. I didn't even know the guy but now I have no choice but to hate him.

 

[fsufan]

i do not understand why owners get so bent out of shape over bad trade offers. just reject them

 

[joetrow]

Im normally "that guy"...

Earlier this year, after week two, I tried unloading Julius Jones, Mike Bell, and Derrik Ward for the likes of SJax, or LT, or Forte.

My personal best this year was after week one, I tried the three RBs listed above and Matt Ryan for Forte and Brees... Brees had just had a six td game. Or maybe it was after Barber got hurt, and I tried to convince the owner it was a bad injury and was trying to give him DMC. I could go on and on......

 

[SouthJersey]

This is meant to be a light-hearted trade thread.

Just for example, I am deep at WR in my dynasty league and put Randy Moss on the trade block, requesting a stud RB. You know, something valuable in return.

Someone shot me an offer of Larry Johnson/Justin Forsett/Julius Jones for him.

Seriously.

I have seen some dumb trade offers before. One guy in our league was offered Johnny Knox/Steve Slaton/Ryan Moats for LeSean McCoy/Donald Driver. I told him I thought it was a joke but whatever.

Anybody else get dumb trades sent to them and if so, give me a good laugh, I need one.

What's the side that's the insulting side?

 

[Mister CIA]

Im normally "that guy"...Earlier this year, after week two, I tried unloading Julius Jones, Mike Bell, and Derrik Ward for the likes of SJax, or LT, or Forte.My personal best this year was after week one, I tried the three RBs listed above and Matt Ryan for Forte and Brees... Brees had just had a six td game. Or maybe it was after Barber got hurt, and I tried to convince the owner it was a bad injury and was trying to give him DMC. I could go on and on......

I'm usually the guy with the better players and I try to string along the owners who offer bad deals with stuff like "hmm, tempting" or "how difficult would it be for me to talk you into including Correll Buckhalter."

 

[Ozymandias]

I always send them an even more ridiculous offer. Say they're offering Steve Smith (NY) for Chris Johnson, I send them a counter offer of my backup kicker for Steve Smith.

 

[MaddHatter]

i do not understand why owners get so bent out of shape over bad trade offers. just reject them

No one is getting bent out of shape except for you.This is a light-hearted post so we can let out a burst of laughter about dumb trades.Maybe you are just bent out of shape because of tonight when Philly smacks Dallas and makes them sit in the corner.

 

[MaddHatter]

I always send them an even more ridiculous offer. Say they're offering Steve Smith (NY) for Chris Johnson, I send them a counter offer of my backup kicker for Steve Smith.

Good stuff.

 

[fsufan]

i do not understand why owners get so bent out of shape over bad trade offers. just reject them

No one is getting bent out of shape except for you.This is a light-hearted post so we can let out a burst of laughter about dumb trades.Maybe you are just bent out of shape because of tonight when Philly smacks Dallas and makes them sit in the corner.

 

[adrenaline]

i deal with them by not dealing with them

 

[bc0312]

This is meant to be a light-hearted trade thread.

Just for example, I am deep at WR in my dynasty league and put Randy Moss on the trade block, requesting a stud RB. You know, something valuable in return.

Someone shot me an offer of Larry Johnson/Justin Forsett/Julius Jones for him.

Seriously.

I have seen some dumb trade offers before. One guy in our league was offered Johnny Knox/Steve Slaton/Ryan Moats for LeSean McCoy/Donald Driver. I told him I thought it was a joke but whatever.

Anybody else get dumb trades sent to them and if so, give me a good laugh, I need one.

What's the side that's the insulting side?

 

[bc0312]

I always send them an even more ridiculous offer. Say they're offering Steve Smith (NY) for Chris Johnson, I send them a counter offer of my backup kicker for Steve Smith.

You have a backup kicker?

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

You ever see those "dumb trade in my league" threads? They occur because someone floated a dumb trade offer...and someone accepted. You can't make that deal if you don't try. As long as you don't get the reputation for being the king of joke trade offers, no harm in trying.

 

[JohnnyU]

You ever see those "dumb trade in my league" threads? They occur because someone floated a dumb trade offer...and someone accepted. You can't make that deal if you don't try. As long as you don't get the reputation for being the king of joke trade offers, no harm in trying.

Do you really believe that?

 

[loose circuits]

it happens all the time. In at least 2 of my leagues, most of the owners refuse to trade unless they are completely bending you over it's ridiculous

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

You ever see those "dumb trade in my league" threads? They occur because someone floated a dumb trade offer...and someone accepted. You can't make that deal if you don't try. As long as you don't get the reputation for being the king of joke trade offers, no harm in trying.

Do you really believe that?

As long as it doesn't give you a bad rep long-term...what's the harm? All they can say is no. You might get a player on the cheap who can really help you.Also, some folks reject the first trade you offer them no matter what. No matter how fair you are, they're going to counter. To them it's part of "the process." So what's the harm in low-balling?

 

[Utter Chaos]

If these dumb trades are never offered then they would never be accepted and we'd never have any "is this collusion" threads.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

If these dumb trades are never offered then they would never be accepted and we'd never have any "is this collusion" threads.

So you blame the owner offering the trade...not the owner accepting it? If that dumb trade wasn't offered, another would be. Why be the team on the sidelines instead of the team with the great player? Unless you're just attacking the absurd collusion threads. Then I have to agree.

 

[JohnnyU]

You ever see those "dumb trade in my league" threads? They occur because someone floated a dumb trade offer...and someone accepted. You can't make that deal if you don't try. As long as you don't get the reputation for being the king of joke trade offers, no harm in trying.

Do you really believe that?

As long as it doesn't give you a bad rep long-term...what's the harm? All they can say is no. You might get a player on the cheap who can really help you.Also, some folks reject the first trade you offer them no matter what. No matter how fair you are, they're going to counter. To them it's part of "the process." So what's the harm in low-balling?

I don't counter low ball offers. All it does it make me not want to trade with that individual. Most of the owners in my leagues know that I try to make my first offer my best one. I don't always succeed in that, but I try. I don't believe in haggling. I'm not saying a trade is always made with the first offer, but I do it quite often.

 

[Chaka]

You ever see those "dumb trade in my league" threads? They occur because someone floated a dumb trade offer...and someone accepted. You can't make that deal if you don't try. As long as you don't get the reputation for being the king of joke trade offers, no harm in trying.

Do you really believe that?

As long as it doesn't give you a bad rep long-term...what's the harm? All they can say is no. You might get a player on the cheap who can really help you.Also, some folks reject the first trade you offer them no matter what. No matter how fair you are, they're going to counter. To them it's part of "the process." So what's the harm in low-balling?

I don't counter low ball offers. All it does it make me not want to trade with that individual. Most of the owners in my leagues know that I try to make my first offer my best one. I don't always succeed in that, but I try. I don't believe in haggling. I'm not saying a trade is always made with the first offer, but I do it quite often.

I can dig your stance but haggling is a very useful skill. Why pay face value? Almost everything you will ever purchase is significantly marked up, if you don't haggle you will frequently get ripped off. This applies to fantasy football too, most people significantly overvalue their players and accepting what they consider to be fair market value for that player without negotiation will likely get you burned. This is particularly important when there is no objective measure of value for the object in question.

What you may consider to be a low ball offer may not hold up to objective scrutiny, or at least not be as far off in value as you initially perceive.

 

[Fallerjw]

This is meant to be a light-hearted trade thread.

Just for example, I am deep at WR in my dynasty league and put Randy Moss on the trade block, requesting a stud RB. You know, something valuable in return.

Someone shot me an offer of Larry Johnson/Justin Forsett/Julius Jones for him.

Seriously.

I have seen some dumb trade offers before. One guy in our league was offered Johnny Knox/Steve Slaton/Ryan Moats for LeSean McCoy/Donald Driver. I told him I thought it was a joke but whatever.

Anybody else get dumb trades sent to them and if so, give me a good laugh, I need one.

What's the side that's the insulting side?

 

[zcher]

not kidding, after week 4 (s.smith was #1 ranked wr), i offered smith and someone else for c.johnson. the guy was 1-4, and hurting badly at wr. he "already" had mcgahee (remember, mcgahee was taking all the td's from rice, 5 td's in the first 4 games) and figured he could depend continue to depend on mcgahee. sure enough, he accepts. this kind of goes along the lines of "it doesn't hurt to try" but also obviously illustrates that a players value is related to where that owner is hurting. we all might highly value cj, but another owner that is "strong" at rb and hurting badly at wr might possibly give him up. is it still considered a "dumb trade?"

 

[lord_helmet]

You ever see those "dumb trade in my league" threads? They occur because someone floated a dumb trade offer...and someone accepted. You can't make that deal if you don't try. As long as you don't get the reputation for being the king of joke trade offers, no harm in trying.

Do you really believe that?

As long as it doesn't give you a bad rep long-term...what's the harm? All they can say is no. You might get a player on the cheap who can really help you.Also, some folks reject the first trade you offer them no matter what. No matter how fair you are, they're going to counter. To them it's part of "the process." So what's the harm in low-balling?

I don't counter low ball offers. All it does it make me not want to trade with that individual. Most of the owners in my leagues know that I try to make my first offer my best one. I don't always succeed in that, but I try. I don't believe in haggling. I'm not saying a trade is always made with the first offer, but I do it quite often.

I agree with alot/most posts you make under various names, but first thing that comes to mind when reading this is -Get over yourself.I don't understand why alot of folks are so damn sensitive about this stuff. Just reject the trade if you don't like it, instead of acting like a child and not respond at all + hold a grudge.

 

[JohnnyU]

You ever see those "dumb trade in my league" threads? They occur because someone floated a dumb trade offer...and someone accepted. You can't make that deal if you don't try. As long as you don't get the reputation for being the king of joke trade offers, no harm in trying.

Do you really believe that?

As long as it doesn't give you a bad rep long-term...what's the harm? All they can say is no. You might get a player on the cheap who can really help you.Also, some folks reject the first trade you offer them no matter what. No matter how fair you are, they're going to counter. To them it's part of "the process." So what's the harm in low-balling?

I don't counter low ball offers. All it does it make me not want to trade with that individual. Most of the owners in my leagues know that I try to make my first offer my best one. I don't always succeed in that, but I try. I don't believe in haggling. I'm not saying a trade is always made with the first offer, but I do it quite often.

I can dig your stance but haggling is a very useful skill. Why pay face value? Almost everything you will ever purchase is significantly marked up, if you don't haggle you will frequently get ripped off. This applies to fantasy football too, most people significantly overvalue their players and accepting what they consider to be fair market value for that player without negotiation will likely get you burned. This is particularly important when there is no objective measure of value for the object in question.

What you may consider to be a low ball offer may not hold up to objective scrutiny, or at least not be as far off in value as you initially perceive.

I'm not saying I never haggle. There can be some wiggle room, but as long as the owners in my league know I don't like to play that game we can come closer to a trade a lot sooner. If owners approach me with good offers initially they understand they can make a trade with me, and I make more trades in my leagues than anyone.

 

[JohnnyU]

You ever see those "dumb trade in my league" threads? They occur because someone floated a dumb trade offer...and someone accepted. You can't make that deal if you don't try. As long as you don't get the reputation for being the king of joke trade offers, no harm in trying.

Do you really believe that?

As long as it doesn't give you a bad rep long-term...what's the harm? All they can say is no. You might get a player on the cheap who can really help you.Also, some folks reject the first trade you offer them no matter what. No matter how fair you are, they're going to counter. To them it's part of "the process." So what's the harm in low-balling?

I don't counter low ball offers. All it does it make me not want to trade with that individual. Most of the owners in my leagues know that I try to make my first offer my best one. I don't always succeed in that, but I try. I don't believe in haggling. I'm not saying a trade is always made with the first offer, but I do it quite often.

I agree with alot/most posts you make under various names, but first thing that comes to mind when reading this is -Get over yourself.I don't understand why alot of folks are so damn sensitive about this stuff. Just reject the trade if you don't like it, instead of acting like a child and not respond at all + hold a grudge.

I guess it comes down to don't waste my time, or insult my intelligence. Now I'm not talking about sligtly lopsided trades here, I'm talking about ridiculous ones. Sure, no one should get their panties in a bunch over most trade offers, but we're talking extreme low ball offers here.

 

[SSOG]

I have seen some dumb trade offers before. One guy in our league was offered Johnny Knox/Steve Slaton/Ryan Moats for LeSean McCoy/Donald Driver. I told him I thought it was a joke but whatever.

Out of curiosity, which side is the dumb side of that trade? Because I really can't figure it out. I've been looking at that trade over and over and I'm not sure which side is supposedly "ripping off" the other. I mean, one side is getting a promising young developmental WR, a young RB with a top-10 history who is struggling greatly, and his handcuff. The other guy is getting a consensus top-3 rookie pick and an older veteran WR who's currently playing like a very high-end WR2. I could see situations where I would gladly and willingly make either side of that trade. In reality, I'm far lower on both McCoy and Slaton than the general consensus, so I view the trade as a complete non-issue, as if someone just traded Andre Caldwell for Laurent Robinson- even if it's lopsided, who cares?

 

[FUBAR]

I have seen some dumb trade offers before. One guy in our league was offered Johnny Knox/Steve Slaton/Ryan Moats for LeSean McCoy/Donald Driver. I told him I thought it was a joke but whatever.

Out of curiosity, which side is the dumb side of that trade? Because I really can't figure it out. I've been looking at that trade over and over and I'm not sure which side is supposedly "ripping off" the other. I mean, one side is getting a promising young developmental WR, a young RB with a top-10 history who is struggling greatly, and his handcuff. The other guy is getting a consensus top-3 rookie pick and an older veteran WR who's currently playing like a very high-end WR2. I could see situations where I would gladly and willingly make either side of that trade. In reality, I'm far lower on both McCoy and Slaton than the general consensus, so I view the trade as a complete non-issue, as if someone just traded Andre Caldwell for Laurent Robinson- even if it's lopsided, who cares?

Trying to put it in other words, but you're spot on. I would deal Slaton for McCoy and Knox/Driver is even depending on the rest of your team.