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In the 8 games he played, he had 33 receptions, and had only 1 and 2 catches weeks 4 and 7 respectively. In 5 of the 8 games he played in, he had over 50 yards, with totals of 40, 56, 11, 74, 109, 11, 74 and 91.

Bowe comes back week 15 and plays CLE; if he had been playing, a huge week would be projected. When he returns, do you think he will step back into his #1 receiver role?

Does Haley hold him back for disciplinary reasons, or does he come back fresh and rip through the Browns?

 
I think he will produce #2 wr type numbers when he returns. I made a claim on him after somebody dropped him, but lost out. He would have been my flex in a ppr. I have been averaging about 8 pts per game from that spot and he would have really helped for the playoffs.

 
I refuse to drop him and unless someone emerges as a better flex option I'll be rolling with him. Derrick Mason is solid wr2 now and bowe was about the same. I think he'll get right back in it although maybe some mind games from haley that week leading up to it are to be expected....

 
In the 8 games he played, he had 33 receptions, and had only 1 and 2 catches weeks 4 and 7 respectively. In 5 of the 8 games he played in, he had over 50 yards, with totals of 40, 56, 11, 74, 109, 11, 74 and 91.Bowe comes back week 15 and plays CLE; if he had been playing, a huge week would be projected. When he returns, do you think he will step back into his #1 receiver role? Does Haley hold him back for disciplinary reasons, or does he come back fresh and rip through the Browns?
It's a great matchup but it's going to be hard for me to start him until I see what Haley is going to do with him for I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Haley give out misinformation and/or play head games with Bowe and his team.
 
In the 8 games he played, he had 33 receptions, and had only 1 and 2 catches weeks 4 and 7 respectively. In 5 of the 8 games he played in, he had over 50 yards, with totals of 40, 56, 11, 74, 109, 11, 74 and 91.Bowe comes back week 15 and plays CLE; if he had been playing, a huge week would be projected. When he returns, do you think he will step back into his #1 receiver role? Does Haley hold him back for disciplinary reasons, or does he come back fresh and rip through the Browns?
It's a great matchup but it's going to be hard for me to start him until I see what Haley is going to do with him for I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Haley give out misinformation and/or play head games with Bowe and his team.
That's what I am thinking too. Haley already has played head games with Bowe, so it'll be interesting to see what happens.I think it's dependent on what Bowe took, and if he can win Haley over on why he took it. I heard it was a diuretic to lose weight during training camp when Haley was on him.On the flipside, you have a young stud receiver that has been sitting on the sideline itching to play ball, with fresh legs. He has the potential to go off...high risk/high reward...the gambles that win or lose you weeks.
 
In the 8 games he played, he had 33 receptions, and had only 1 and 2 catches weeks 4 and 7 respectively. In 5 of the 8 games he played in, he had over 50 yards, with totals of 40, 56, 11, 74, 109, 11, 74 and 91.Bowe comes back week 15 and plays CLE; if he had been playing, a huge week would be projected. When he returns, do you think he will step back into his #1 receiver role? Does Haley hold him back for disciplinary reasons, or does he come back fresh and rip through the Browns?
It's a great matchup but it's going to be hard for me to start him until I see what Haley is going to do with him for I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Haley give out misinformation and/or play head games with Bowe and his team.
That's what I am thinking too. Haley already has played head games with Bowe, so it'll be interesting to see what happens.I think it's dependent on what Bowe took, and if he can win Haley over on why he took it. I heard it was a diuretic to lose weight during training camp when Haley was on him.On the flipside, you have a young stud receiver that has been sitting on the sideline itching to play ball, with fresh legs. He has the potential to go off...high risk/high reward...the gambles that win or lose you weeks.
I think people might be thinking too linearly. Reports were that the team knew about the upcoming suspension. This suggests that the team has already discussed this internally in the month leading up to the suspension. Thus, by the time Bowe comes back, it might already be over and done with.
 
Bowe owner here. Drafted him as my #1 WR and up until his suspension, I was actually pleased with his performance. He was consistently getting me around 10 points per game and his athleticism and big frame always make him liable to break a big play.

I was fortunate enough to compile a 9-2 record heading into this week (I'm ensured a bye in Week 14), so that means I get Bowe back for weeks 15 and 16, which is absolutely huge. The only caveat in the whole matter is whether or note Bowe will be in-game shape and you have to factor in the consequent rust of sitting out a month. Does anyone know if Bowe is allowed to practice with the team?

Anyways, Bowe's return for the playoffs will basically make or break my playoff hopes. He can either give my team a much added boost at WR or I'm going to be rolling with Kevin Walter/Robert Meachem/Donnie Avery.

 
I think he will have 28 catches for 612 yards and 5 TDs over the last three weeks but this is a conservative estimate.

 
In the 8 games he played, he had 33 receptions, and had only 1 and 2 catches weeks 4 and 7 respectively. In 5 of the 8 games he played in, he had over 50 yards, with totals of 40, 56, 11, 74, 109, 11, 74 and 91.Bowe comes back week 15 and plays CLE; if he had been playing, a huge week would be projected. When he returns, do you think he will step back into his #1 receiver role? Does Haley hold him back for disciplinary reasons, or does he come back fresh and rip through the Browns?
It's a great matchup but it's going to be hard for me to start him until I see what Haley is going to do with him for I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Haley give out misinformation and/or play head games with Bowe and his team.
That's what I am thinking too. Haley already has played head games with Bowe, so it'll be interesting to see what happens.I think it's dependent on what Bowe took, and if he can win Haley over on why he took it. I heard it was a diuretic to lose weight during training camp when Haley was on him.On the flipside, you have a young stud receiver that has been sitting on the sideline itching to play ball, with fresh legs. He has the potential to go off...high risk/high reward...the gambles that win or lose you weeks.
I think people might be thinking too linearly. Reports were that the team knew about the upcoming suspension. This suggests that the team has already discussed this internally in the month leading up to the suspension. Thus, by the time Bowe comes back, it might already be over and done with.
That's all well and good that the team knew it was coming, but regardless it doesn't give us much insight into how Haley will handle Bowe's workload first week back from suspension.
 
In the 8 games he played, he had 33 receptions, and had only 1 and 2 catches weeks 4 and 7 respectively. In 5 of the 8 games he played in, he had over 50 yards, with totals of 40, 56, 11, 74, 109, 11, 74 and 91.Bowe comes back week 15 and plays CLE; if he had been playing, a huge week would be projected. When he returns, do you think he will step back into his #1 receiver role? Does Haley hold him back for disciplinary reasons, or does he come back fresh and rip through the Browns?
It's a great matchup but it's going to be hard for me to start him until I see what Haley is going to do with him for I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Haley give out misinformation and/or play head games with Bowe and his team.
That's what I am thinking too. Haley already has played head games with Bowe, so it'll be interesting to see what happens.I think it's dependent on what Bowe took, and if he can win Haley over on why he took it. I heard it was a diuretic to lose weight during training camp when Haley was on him.On the flipside, you have a young stud receiver that has been sitting on the sideline itching to play ball, with fresh legs. He has the potential to go off...high risk/high reward...the gambles that win or lose you weeks.
I think people might be thinking too linearly. Reports were that the team knew about the upcoming suspension. This suggests that the team has already discussed this internally in the month leading up to the suspension. Thus, by the time Bowe comes back, it might already be over and done with.
That's all well and good that the team knew it was coming, but regardless it doesn't give us much insight into how Haley will handle Bowe's workload first week back from suspension.
No, but it is a valid response to the original question of whether Haley would hold him back for disciplinary reasons. Since none of us are Haley, none of us have insight, only factors that should be considered when theorizing.
 
I dropped Bowe.

I mean he'll come back in week 15 vs. Cleveland so I'm not sure who has the gonads to start him for that game. Week 16 is the super bowl in most leagues. So, I looked at it like you have 1 week to potentially start him for the rest of the season.

 
This is exactly what I was thinking when I posted the original question. It's a complete unknown, but I was hoping for some home grown info from someone closer to the source.

Any new homer information?

 
I dropped Bowe.I mean he'll come back in week 15 vs. Cleveland so I'm not sure who has the gonads to start him for that game. Week 16 is the super bowl in most leagues. So, I looked at it like you have 1 week to potentially start him for the rest of the season.
Bowe remains on the waiver wire in all of my leagues.I don't believe anyone is terribly enthusiastic about signing him.Even when he returns next week, Cassel has been struggling and WRs have not put up big numbers against Cleveland & Cincinnati of late.They're #1 and #2 over the past 6 weeks surrendering FPs to opposing receivers.
 
I dropped Bowe.I mean he'll come back in week 15 vs. Cleveland so I'm not sure who has the gonads to start him for that game. Week 16 is the super bowl in most leagues. So, I looked at it like you have 1 week to potentially start him for the rest of the season.
Bowe remains on the waiver wire in all of my leagues.I don't believe anyone is terribly enthusiastic about signing him.Even when he returns next week, Cassel has been struggling and WRs have not put up big numbers against Cleveland & Cincinnati of late.They're #1 and #2 over the past 6 weeks surrendering FPs to opposing receivers.
I'd snatch him up if I was you. Assuming Bowe has relatively little rust and is in-shape, at the VERY WORST he's a good #3. Best case scenario is that he puts up monster numbers against the Browns and Bengals and leads your team to a championship. People forget that before he was suspended, he was averaging good numbers in games that he was healthy -- around 10 pts every week in a non-PPR league.
 
I dropped Bowe.I mean he'll come back in week 15 vs. Cleveland so I'm not sure who has the gonads to start him for that game. Week 16 is the super bowl in most leagues. So, I looked at it like you have 1 week to potentially start him for the rest of the season.
Bowe remains on the waiver wire in all of my leagues.I don't believe anyone is terribly enthusiastic about signing him.Even when he returns next week, Cassel has been struggling and WRs have not put up big numbers against Cleveland & Cincinnati of late.They're #1 and #2 over the past 6 weeks surrendering FPs to opposing receivers.
I'd snatch him up if I was you. Assuming Bowe has relatively little rust and is in-shape, at the VERY WORST he's a good #3. Best case scenario is that he puts up monster numbers against the Browns and Bengals and leads your team to a championship. People forget that before he was suspended, he was averaging good numbers in games that he was healthy -- around 10 pts every week in a non-PPR league.
:blackdot: and worst case you can keep a potential breakout player OFF the other playoff teams. though I do also agree it's a long shot (for bowe to put up good #s w/ cassel struggling).depending on roster depth requirements, i'd think many owners have a WR5 or RB5 or TE3 that is expendable for someone like Bowe @ this point.
 
Meh. Depends on your lineup requirements, of course, but in my league I suspect he'll stay on the waiver wire for the remainder of the season. We can play a third WR in a flex position but it's less than 50% of the time that people do. I picked him up in the draft as my #3 and played him a few games; traded him in for Hakeem Nicks prior to week 8. He was picked up again the next waiver wire and dropped when the suspension was announced. With our scoring he was averaging 8+ ppg played--which would only project to WR32 had it been for the entire season.

 
Meh. Depends on your lineup requirements, of course, but in my league I suspect he'll stay on the waiver wire for the remainder of the season. We can play a third WR in a flex position but it's less than 50% of the time that people do. I picked him up in the draft as my #3 and played him a few games; traded him in for Hakeem Nicks prior to week 8. He was picked up again the next waiver wire and dropped when the suspension was announced. With our scoring he was averaging 8+ ppg played--which would only project to WR32 had it been for the entire season.
OK, what am I missing here (assuming you play in a 12 team league):- even with his injury he was performing around the #32 WR- on average your league has 30 starting WRs every week- he's on your WW- and you have no desire to pick him up either to start OR to keep out of your opponent's lineupagain, what am I missing?
 
For the sake of those of us with a negated MSW or losing Maclin or just plain desperate.

Views on starting Bowe, now, this week, vs CLE, at home in KC?

Effect of Chambers?

Effect of weather?

Cassell's performance vs BUF? 4 INT's.

Effect of Charles?

Cleveland's fine defensive play vs PIT? Though Holmes I think still had a good game.

Question of whether Bowe will not be able to just pick up where he left off but will have to work back in?

Obviously comparing him to possible WR4/5 fill-ins at WR3, not Top 10 WR's.

 
I picked him up off waivers just before my opponent played Chris Johnson and ended my season. I bet he goes off now that I am eliminated.

 
CLE has not been a creampuff vs. the pass.

Here are the best games against them all year...the only receivers to score and/or put up 100 yards.

wk1 Percy Harvin 3/36/1

wk3 Derrick Mason 5/118/1

wk4 Chad Ochocinco 3/24/2

wk6 Hines Ward 8/159/1

wk6 Santonio Holmes 5/104/0

wk7 Donald Driver 2/84/1

wk11 Calvin Johnson 7/161/1

In all other games, the receivers did 4 for 50, 5 for 80 at best...Hester had 7 for 81. This is not a pushover pass DEF.

 
I think Bowe's worth a shot, but only if you don't have any other decent option. There's just too much uncertainty as to how much he'll play with an ayhole coach like Haley who's big on player punishment.

I'd gamble on Bowe over guys like Walter, Avery, Housh, Massaquoi, Knox, N Washington, S Moss, Floyd, Evans, or Bess.

 
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Any news, practice notes, gameplan decisions of note?

I'm counting on Bowe as my WR3 for this week's critical playoff game.

I am hoping for two good weeks, the ones that really matter. I think KC will want to try to not end up on such a lousy note. They have a quality QB and an emerging stud RB. A soft schedule. A motivated coach. And add in a much needed WR#1, and helped by the addition of Chambers.

I am optimistic, I know.

 
Does Haley hold him back for disciplinary reasons, or does he come back fresh and rip through the Browns?
Reports were that the team knew about the upcoming suspension. This suggests that the team has already discussed this internally in the month leading up to the suspension. Thus, by the time Bowe comes back, it might already be over and done with.
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/12/14/1...ays-dwayne-boweAs you all know, Kansas City Chiefs receiver Dwayne Bowe returns from a four-game suspension this week. Chiefs head coach Todd Haley was asked about his receiver today and said it appears he's ready to go physically and the challenge will be getting him ready to go mentally.

"Just in looking at him it looks like he’s done a pretty good job of keeping himself in condition. We’ve got to get him up to speed in any of the new stuff we’re doing."

Per league rules, Haley nor any of the players were allowed contact with Bowe while he was on suspension.

He also said he was "personally excited" for Bowe's return because he's one of the Chiefs best players and, prior to the injury, he was making good strides in his development.

"As far as I know there are no physical limitations and it will all be a matter of getting him up to speed mentally and getting him back into the mix," Haley explained. "I know he’s a professional and from the looks of what I can see today and talking to him he’s done a pretty good job of keeping himself in condition and says he has. It’s what I expected him to do."

This is good to hear, especially when you consider that Bowe was suspended for taking a diuretic partly due to the fact that he wasn't in shape over the offseason. I imagine this entire experience has demonstrated to him the importance of staying in shape.

"I know he’s excited to be back and we’re excited to have him back. When we get a chance to get one of our better and more productive offensive players back I think that’s a big thing for us."

 
I don't know if I can bring myself to start him in my PPR league. Thinking of starting Nicks over him. Bowe was my WR3 behing Moss and Vincent Jackson. Will likely go back and forth all week with this one.

 
I don't know if I can bring myself to start him in my PPR league. Thinking of starting Nicks over him. Bowe was my WR3 behing Moss and Vincent Jackson. Will likely go back and forth all week with this one.
I'd seriously consider benching Moss for Bowe this weekend. Bad weather, and his head is not right. I would worry if he is going to recover or is he going to "mail it in" like he always does when he is not feeling the love. I know Moss is a stud, and you shouldn't bench your studs, but I think you have a higher floor and ceiling with Bowe.
 
IN my PPR league I'm strongly considering starting him in a our RUN-n-SHOOT offense option.

Addai has a short week and is banged up. I think Bowe will have a better game than Addai.

 
I held on to Bowe, mostly because there wasn't anything out there on the WW worth picking up. It's the week that determines who goes to the championships. I have him as a Flex option (for a flex WR/RB position). My other options are either Jonathan Stewart (who appears hurt again plus DeAngelo is coming back) or Cotchery (the Jets are getting pretty conservative on offense).

So I'm seriously thinking of plugging him in.

 
As of now, I have Roddy White, Vincent Jackson, and Hines Ward in my line-up. I don't really have any big plans of switching this up at all, I guess we'll see how practice goes this week and if any nagging injuries change my mind one way or another.

 
From KCChiefs.com

BOWE’S BACK

December 15th – 6:08 AM

WR Dwayne Bowe made a quiescent return to Arrowhead on Monday morning following a four-week NFL suspension for violating the league’s policy on performance-enhancing substances.

There were no press conferences, special statements or “Bowe Show” banners. The Chiefs’ top wide receiver simply entered the locker room, quietly made way to his locker, and shook hands with a few teammates whom he hadn’t seen over the past month. There were a limited number of greetings, smiles and hugs, but that’s about it.

Bowe arrived on a Monday morning just as he’d done for the previous nine weeks prior to his suspension. Not much time for chatter, just a change of clothes and off to work out before film review. The routine was nothing noteworthy, and may have even felt monotonous a month ago, but it was easy to see that Bowe was happy to be back at work.

There was no visible evidence of a change in physical appearance from four weeks prior, either. Bowe said that he had been staying in shape by working out at former Chiefs offensive lineman Will Shields’ area gym while being barred by the NFL from participating in any team-related activities.

“Dwayne is back this week,” Chiefs head coach Todd Haley said. “We haven’t had any contact by league rules – you’re not allowed to have any contact with a suspended player. We’ll have to do our best to see where he’s at and get him up to speed.”

There’s no question that the Chiefs could use Bowe back in the receiving rotation. Despite his four-week suspension, he still leads all Kansas City wide receivers with 33 catches for 466 yards and four TDs. He actually held the overall team-lead in receptions until RB Jamaal Charles caught his 34th pass of the season in the fourth quarter vs. Buffalo on Sunday.

Even a Bowe at 75% or 85% can add a much-needed spark to the Chiefs offense. The question isn’t whether or not Bowe can help the Chiefs over these final three games. It’s more or less, what are reasonable expectations for Bowe in his return to the field on Sunday?

This is a topic that many have weighed in on. Fans, media members and everything in between seem to have discussed this topic with no clear consensus. The same can be said inside Arrowhead.

WR Bobby Wade played his 100th career NFL game on Sunday. Over the course of those seven professional seasons, Wade has seen plenty of players fight through comebacks whether it is from suspension or injury. He said that outside expectations for Bowe to step right in and play at the exact same level (or higher) before the suspension would be unrealistic.

“It’s the speed of the game,” Wade said about the biggest adjustment that looms for Bowe. “It can go both ways. The speed of the game can slow down and you are faster than everybody, or you’re not quite up to speed. It’s going to be a challenge for him to play within his own realm and make the plays that come to him.

“Conditioning is going to be the same, but it’s tough to simulate any type of game speed when you’re away from the game,” Wade continued. “It’s going to be a very big challenge for him, but I think that he is very capable of handling that.”

Another veteran wide receiver, Chris Chambers, felt the opposite way about Bowe. Chambers feels like expectations for Bowe to step in and contribute immediately, at a similar level as before, are fair.

“I think that the expectations should be high,” Chambers said. “I think that they will be high for himself. He’ll have more help around him. All the focus won’t be on him, we’ll all make some plays.”

Chambers led all Chiefs receivers with 17 catches for 250 yards and a TD in Bowe’s absence. He’s followed in a close second by Charles and Wade, who each turned in 13 catches a piece. Without Bowe in the lineup, it’s fair to say that the Chiefs have lacked a primary go-to receiving target. In total, Chiefs quarterbacks completed passes to 11 different players during the course of Bowe’s four-game suspension.

“Any time you’re missing one of your better players – which we were for the last four weeks – I’m personally excited about having Dwayne back,” Haley said. “I think Dwayne was making tremendous strides when the suspension occurred and I think he’s made strides in all areas to a point where he cares about what we’re trying to do.”

Bowe had turned in his second-highest receiving output of the season at Oakland (11/15) – a six-catch, 91-yard effort – before news of the suspension broke the following Tuesday afternoon on Chiefs LIVE (12:00-1:00 PM CST each Tuesday on kcchiefs.com).

Haley offered his opinions on his own expectations for Bowe as well. Basically, Haley is treating the situation as if Bowe were coming off an injury.

Looking for any type of precedent? Bowe caught just one pass for 11 yards following the only bundle of missed time during his three-year NFL career. That occurred this season vs. the Giants (10/4), following a leg injury that kept him out of the lineup at Philadelphia (9/27) the week before. Prior to this season, Bowe had never missed a game as a pro.

Haley didn’t comment, however, as to whether Bowe would return to his starting role or not on Sunday. That is something we’ll likely have a better read on after Wednesday’s practice session. Starter or not, Bowe’s return to the field vs. Cleveland will create a receiving presence that the Chiefs have lacked over the past month.

“Just in looking at him it looks like he’s done a pretty good job of keeping himself in condition,” Haley said. “We’ve got to get him up to speed in any of the new stuff we’re doing. I’m personally excited about having him back in the mix. We need all the hands we can get.”

 
I've got him in 2 leagues ... assuming I survive this week with Wayne I'm likely going to need to pop him into Wayne's spot in week 16 in one league and then decide between Austin, Bowe, and MSW opposite AJ in the other in 16. If I was alive and owned him in a 14 teamer I'd probably use him but not in these formats. I'd expect 5-60-0 as a decent baseline. He'll be used and might actually be a shoot-out this week so he has upside for sure. It may actually help Chambers and Charles more.

 
Bowe worked with the first team at practice today. I'm not sure how much work he got but he did get first-team reps at practice today.

 
Bowe worked with the first team at practice today. I'm not sure how much work he got but he did get first-team reps at practice today.
Dwayne Bowe-WR- Chiefs Dec. 16 - 12:53 pm et In his first practice coming off a four-game suspension, Dwayne Bowe was inserted immediately onto the Chiefs' first-team offense.Despite missing team work for the last month, Bowe reported in tip-top shape and will likely resume every-down duties Sunday vs. the Browns. Obviously the Chiefs' most skilled pass catcher, Bowe is a good bet to resume leading the team in targets on a weekly basis. He'll also practice all this week with Matt Cassel, so "rust" isn't a concern. Cleveland is 25th against the pass
 
I have him in 2 leagues, and I am thinking of staring him in both. Coincidentally, I have him and Burleson in 2 leagues, and since Burleson is hurt I got to go with him.

One league I could still go Sims-Walker, Antonio Bryant, Avery, or Bess. I may hedge and go Sims Walker in this one.

Although, having the balls to start Bowe in the playoffs could be EPIC.

 
Has anyone considered that his previous performance was drug enhanced? Therefore, he may not perform as well when he can't take the little steroid enhancers?

There was some discussion a while ago about how there seemed to be alot of rookie WRs who were performing better than in the past we would have expected. Personally, I suspect it has alot to do with performance enhancing drugs. Just look at Bowe: he doesn't look normal. I think if you own him in dynasty you might want to trade him as soon as he has a decent game.

This won't be popular. Around here we like to bag on talented guys who celebrate TDs by wearing a sombrero. But you might want to beware the young WR who looks like a roid and has been busted for roids.

 
Has anyone considered that his previous performance was drug enhanced? Therefore, he may not perform as well when he can't take the little steroid enhancers?

There was some discussion a while ago about how there seemed to be alot of rookie WRs who were performing better than in the past we would have expected. Personally, I suspect it has alot to do with performance enhancing drugs. Just look at Bowe: he doesn't look normal. I think if you own him in dynasty you might want to trade him as soon as he has a decent game.

This won't be popular. Around here we like to bag on talented guys who celebrate TDs by wearing a sombrero. But you might want to beware the young WR who looks like a roid and has been busted for roids.
He tested positive for a diuretic to help him lose weight, not a steroid or PED.
 
Has anyone considered that his previous performance was drug enhanced? Therefore, he may not perform as well when he can't take the little steroid enhancers?

There was some discussion a while ago about how there seemed to be alot of rookie WRs who were performing better than in the past we would have expected. Personally, I suspect it has alot to do with performance enhancing drugs. Just look at Bowe: he doesn't look normal. I think if you own him in dynasty you might want to trade him as soon as he has a decent game.

This won't be popular. Around here we like to bag on talented guys who celebrate TDs by wearing a sombrero. But you might want to beware the young WR who looks like a roid and has been busted for roids.
Wasn't busted for "roids". Was busted for taking a banned diuretic to drop weight which makes sense with Haley complaining in camp that Bowe was overweight.Edit it add: Guy above me types faster...

 
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Has anyone considered that his previous performance was drug enhanced? Therefore, he may not perform as well when he can't take the little steroid enhancers?

There was some discussion a while ago about how there seemed to be alot of rookie WRs who were performing better than in the past we would have expected. Personally, I suspect it has alot to do with performance enhancing drugs. Just look at Bowe: he doesn't look normal. I think if you own him in dynasty you might want to trade him as soon as he has a decent game.

This won't be popular. Around here we like to bag on talented guys who celebrate TDs by wearing a sombrero. But you might want to beware the young WR who looks like a roid and has been busted for roids.
Wasn't busted for "roids". Was busted for taking a banned diuretic to drop weight which makes sense with Haley complaining in camp that Bowe was overweight.Edit it add: Guy above me types faster...
It's a masking agent for performance enhancing drugs. I doubt the NFL is going to suspend a guy four games for taking a diet drug if that is all it is. Look at the dude--he is on steroids. It isn't that hard to tell.http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/1577014.html

 
Has anyone considered that his previous performance was drug enhanced? Therefore, he may not perform as well when he can't take the little steroid enhancers?

There was some discussion a while ago about how there seemed to be alot of rookie WRs who were performing better than in the past we would have expected. Personally, I suspect it has alot to do with performance enhancing drugs. Just look at Bowe: he doesn't look normal. I think if you own him in dynasty you might want to trade him as soon as he has a decent game.

This won't be popular. Around here we like to bag on talented guys who celebrate TDs by wearing a sombrero. But you might want to beware the young WR who looks like a roid and has been busted for roids.
Wasn't busted for "roids". Was busted for taking a banned diuretic to drop weight which makes sense with Haley complaining in camp that Bowe was overweight.Edit it add: Guy above me types faster...
It's a masking agent for performance enhancing drugs. I doubt the NFL is going to suspend a guy four games for taking a diet drug if that is all it is. Look at the dude--he is on steroids. It isn't that hard to tell.http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/1577014.html
Sure, diuretics can be used as maskings agents. They are also used as diuretics which help you quickly loose weight.Let's follow the chain of events here:

Haley criticized Bowe for showing up to camp overweight.

Bowe quickly lost weight.

He tested positive for a banned diuretic.

I'm not saying it's outside the realm of possibility that he is taking some PED and used the diuretic as a masking agent, but when you hear galloping, think horses not zebras and the horse here is he was trying to quickly make weight.

Edit to add: To explain for those that don't understand how they work, diuretics stimulate the kidneys to produce more urine therefore removing more water from the body. Traditionally prescribed for such diseases as hypertension, heart and kidney diseases it is used (and misused) by athletes to quickly loose weight. Because it dilutes the urine, it can also make PEDs harder to detect in a urine based drug test.

 
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Has anyone considered that his previous performance was drug enhanced? Therefore, he may not perform as well when he can't take the little steroid enhancers?

There was some discussion a while ago about how there seemed to be alot of rookie WRs who were performing better than in the past we would have expected. Personally, I suspect it has alot to do with performance enhancing drugs. Just look at Bowe: he doesn't look normal. I think if you own him in dynasty you might want to trade him as soon as he has a decent game.

This won't be popular. Around here we like to bag on talented guys who celebrate TDs by wearing a sombrero. But you might want to beware the young WR who looks like a roid and has been busted for roids.
Wasn't busted for "roids". Was busted for taking a banned diuretic to drop weight which makes sense with Haley complaining in camp that Bowe was overweight.Edit it add: Guy above me types faster...
It's a masking agent for performance enhancing drugs. I doubt the NFL is going to suspend a guy four games for taking a diet drug if that is all it is. Look at the dude--he is on steroids. It isn't that hard to tell.http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/1577014.html
Sure, diuretics can be used as maskings agents. They are also used as diuretics which help you quickly loose weight.Let's follow the chain of events here:

Haley criticized Bowe for showing up to camp overweight.

Bowe quickly lost weight.

He tested positive for a banned diuretic.

I'm not saying it's outside the realm of possibility that he is taking some PED and used the diuretic as a masking agent, but when you hear galloping, think horses not zebras and the horse here is he was trying to quickly make weight.
:fishy: and how are you gonna say to judge it by looking at him? the guy is a professional athlete.

 
Personally I feel the possibility of using those drugs to lose weight and to mask any steroids or other drugs he may have took are both valid, and one shouldn't assume one without addressing the possibility of the other. That's why he was suspended. There's ways to lose weight without using a masking agent, so one would wonder who advised him to use such a drug if indeed he was not intending to hide something and why he was not responsible enough to check if what he was putting in his body was against the rules or not.

 
Personally I feel the possibility of using those drugs to lose weight and to mask any steroids or other drugs he may have took are both valid, and one shouldn't assume one without addressing the possibility of the other. That's why he was suspended. There's ways to lose weight without using a masking agent, so one would wonder who advised him to use such a drug if indeed he was not intending to hide something and why he was not responsible enough to check if what he was putting in his body was against the rules or not.
I figured people wouldn't want to hear this. It struck me as funny that a thread on the guy hadn't brought it up since drug usage was the reason for his suspension.Like I said above, I think steroid use in the NFL is far more prevalent than we suspect. I have been watching the NFL since 1970 and players look different today. Some of it is improved training but I am convinced a good deal is drugs. It isn't surprising to me that Bowe tested positive for performance enhancing drug usage. His body appearance reminds me of other recent WRs who had a big rise and then a big fall--think Javon Walker or David Boston. I think that the reason we are seeing more WRs do well as rookies has something to do with drug usage.
 
Personally I feel the possibility of using those drugs to lose weight and to mask any steroids or other drugs he may have took are both valid, and one shouldn't assume one without addressing the possibility of the other. That's why he was suspended. There's ways to lose weight without using a masking agent, so one would wonder who advised him to use such a drug if indeed he was not intending to hide something and why he was not responsible enough to check if what he was putting in his body was against the rules or not.
I figured people wouldn't want to hear this. It struck me as funny that a thread on the guy hadn't brought it up since drug usage was the reason for his suspension.Like I said above, I think steroid use in the NFL is far more prevalent than we suspect. I have been watching the NFL since 1970 and players look different today. Some of it is improved training but I am convinced a good deal is drugs. It isn't surprising to me that Bowe tested positive for performance enhancing drug usage. His body appearance reminds me of other recent WRs who had a big rise and then a big fall--think Javon Walker or David Boston. I think that the reason we are seeing more WRs do well as rookies has something to do with drug usage.
Again, he didn't. :bag: You can argue effectively that his use of a diuretic is suspect, and could be indicative of PED use, but Bowe did not and has not tested positive for any performance enhancing drug.

 
It was a tough choice for me to make having Bowe...and being my 3rd round selection, but I think I'm going with Miles Austin, Hakeem Nicks, and MSW over him. Bowe will be riding the pine with Cotchery.

 

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