hollaatyaboy
Footballguy
This year we had a very strong and deep RB class. whats in store for next year?
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Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
It's early, but here's how I see the QB's:
1 Brady Quinn Notre Dame 6-4 230
2 Drew Stanton Michigan State 6-3 226
3 Brian Brohm Louisville 6-4 224 *
4 Troy Smith Ohio State 6-1 208
5 JaMarcus Russell LSU 6-5 252 *
6 Sam Keller Arizona State 6-4 230
7 Jordan Palmer Texas-El Paso 6-5 232
8 Kyle Wright Miami 6-4 220 *
9 Kevin Kolb Houston 6-3 225
10 Trent Edwards Stanford 6-4 222
11 Lester Ricard Tulane 6-5 225
12 Luke Getsy Akron 6-2 220
13 Bret Meyer Iowa State 6-3 205 *
14 Chris Leak Florida 6-0 210
15 Chad Henne Michigan 6-2 225 *
16 Jeff Rowe Nevada 6-5 220
17 John Beck BYU 6-2 215
18 Drew Tate Iowa 6-0 185
19 Tyler Palko Pittsburgh 6-2 220
20 Sam Hollenbach Maryland 6-5 223
21 Reggie Ball Georgia Tech 5-11 195
22 Phil Horvath Northern Illinois 6-2 200
23 Matt Moore Oregon State 6-4 195
24 Joe Ayoob California 6-3 220
25 Jared Zabransky Boise State 6-2 212
* Denotes underclassmen
Here's the RB:
1 Michael Bush Louisville 6-2 248
2 Kenny Irons Auburn 5-11 202
3 Adrian Petersen Oklahoma 6-2 218 *
4 Marshawn Lynch California 5-11 220 *
5 Mike Hart Michigan 5-09 195 *
6 Darius Walker Notre Dame 5-10 212
7 Ken Darby Alabama 5-10 205
8 Gary Russell Minnesota 5-11 195 *
9 Albert Young Iowa 5-10 207
10 Lynell Hamilton San Diego State 6-1 220 *
11 Lorenzo Booker Florida State 5-11 195
12 Branden Ore Virginia Tech 5-11 204
13 Antonio Pittman Ohio State 5-11 195 *
14 Kyle Bell Colorado State 6-2 225 *
15 Garrett Wolfe Northern Illinois 5-07 183
16 Tyrone Moss Miami 5-09 222
17 Jamario Thomas North Texas 5-11 195 *
18 DeShawn Wynn Florida 5-11 230
19 Courtney Lewis Texas A&M 6-0 208
20 Alley Broussard LSU 6-0 235 *
21 Justin Vincent LSU 5-10 220
22 Selvin Young Texas 6-0 215
23 Tony Hunt Penn State 6-2 220
24 Thomas Clayton Kansas State 6-0 220
25 Brian Leonard Rutgers 6-2 235
1 Brady Quinn Notre Dame 6-4 230
2 Drew Stanton Michigan State 6-3 226
3 Brian Brohm Louisville 6-4 224 *
4 Troy Smith Ohio State 6-1 208
5 JaMarcus Russell LSU 6-5 252 *
6 Sam Keller Arizona State 6-4 230
7 Jordan Palmer Texas-El Paso 6-5 232
8 Kyle Wright Miami 6-4 220 *
9 Kevin Kolb Houston 6-3 225
10 Trent Edwards Stanford 6-4 222
11 Lester Ricard Tulane 6-5 225
12 Luke Getsy Akron 6-2 220
13 Bret Meyer Iowa State 6-3 205 *
14 Chris Leak Florida 6-0 210
15 Chad Henne Michigan 6-2 225 *
16 Jeff Rowe Nevada 6-5 220
17 John Beck BYU 6-2 215
18 Drew Tate Iowa 6-0 185
19 Tyler Palko Pittsburgh 6-2 220
20 Sam Hollenbach Maryland 6-5 223
21 Reggie Ball Georgia Tech 5-11 195
22 Phil Horvath Northern Illinois 6-2 200
23 Matt Moore Oregon State 6-4 195
24 Joe Ayoob California 6-3 220
25 Jared Zabransky Boise State 6-2 212
* Denotes underclassmen
Here's the RB:
1 Michael Bush Louisville 6-2 248
2 Kenny Irons Auburn 5-11 202
3 Adrian Petersen Oklahoma 6-2 218 *
4 Marshawn Lynch California 5-11 220 *
5 Mike Hart Michigan 5-09 195 *
6 Darius Walker Notre Dame 5-10 212
7 Ken Darby Alabama 5-10 205
8 Gary Russell Minnesota 5-11 195 *
9 Albert Young Iowa 5-10 207
10 Lynell Hamilton San Diego State 6-1 220 *
11 Lorenzo Booker Florida State 5-11 195
12 Branden Ore Virginia Tech 5-11 204
13 Antonio Pittman Ohio State 5-11 195 *
14 Kyle Bell Colorado State 6-2 225 *
15 Garrett Wolfe Northern Illinois 5-07 183
16 Tyrone Moss Miami 5-09 222
17 Jamario Thomas North Texas 5-11 195 *
18 DeShawn Wynn Florida 5-11 230
19 Courtney Lewis Texas A&M 6-0 208
20 Alley Broussard LSU 6-0 235 *
21 Justin Vincent LSU 5-10 220
22 Selvin Young Texas 6-0 215
23 Tony Hunt Penn State 6-2 220
24 Thomas Clayton Kansas State 6-0 220
25 Brian Leonard Rutgers 6-2 235
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
Bloom and I are both doing The Ones 2 Watch this year. Be sure to check it out every week as we break down the top 15 draft eligible skill players! 
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
Man, the commercial breaks inside threads keep getting longer...or is it just me?Bloom and I are both doing The Ones 2 Watch this year. Be sure to check it out every week as we break down the top 15 draft eligible skill players!
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
Seems like it's a weekly column during the season.Is this out yet? Can't seem to find it in the subscriber content.Bloom and I are both doing The Ones 2 Watch this year. Be sure to check it out every week as we break down the top 15 draft eligible skill players!
offdee
Footballguy
Overall, it should be a good class for offensive talent. The cream of the crop of eligible guys are as follows...
QB:
- Brady Quinn (Notre Dame)
- Brian Brohm (Louisville)
RB:
- Adrian Peterson (Oklahoma)
- Marshawn Lynch (Cal)
- Michael Bush (Louisville)
WR:
- Calvin Johnson (Georgia Tech)
- Dwayne Jarrett (USC)
- Sidney Rice (S. Carolina)
- Ted Ginn Jr. (Ohio St.)
TE:
- Greg Olsen (Miami)
- Zach Miller (Arizona St.)
QB:
- Brady Quinn (Notre Dame)
- Brian Brohm (Louisville)
RB:
- Adrian Peterson (Oklahoma)
- Marshawn Lynch (Cal)
- Michael Bush (Louisville)
WR:
- Calvin Johnson (Georgia Tech)
- Dwayne Jarrett (USC)
- Sidney Rice (S. Carolina)
- Ted Ginn Jr. (Ohio St.)
TE:
- Greg Olsen (Miami)
- Zach Miller (Arizona St.)
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JayMan
Footballguy
I'm I reading this correctly Cecil, or it is just that since Peterson and Lynch are underclassmen - they are ranked lower than Bush and Irons?...On a more general note - I think '07 will be the year of the WR, especially if all the underclassmen come out... Johnson, Ginn, Jarrett, Samardjiza, Rice...
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
I love Adrian Petersen, but want to see him bounce back after a bad sophomore campaign. Peterson could jump to #1, but Lynch is still my #4, no matter how I look at it.
Bears_Man2
Footballguy
The most impressive RB I saw far and away this weekend was Kenny Irons. Shame on ESPN for not putting him in the Heisman discussion after what they saw after the 1st weekend. He looked every bit the part of Cadillac Williams. So quick and smooth juking and changing directions. Does an excellent job of following his blocks & waiting for things to develop.
I'm not too excited about the pro prospects of Michael Bush. (Yes, I realize he's doing a solid job vs. Kentucky currently). I have a feeling he won't have all day to get to the line like he does now. Very slow in changing directions. I think too many folks get hyped into his size.
After Week 1:
1) Kenny Irons
2) Adrian Peterson
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3) Marshawn Lynch
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4) Michael Bush
I'm basing this upon my opinion of transitioning their skills to the next level.
I'm not too excited about the pro prospects of Michael Bush. (Yes, I realize he's doing a solid job vs. Kentucky currently). I have a feeling he won't have all day to get to the line like he does now. Very slow in changing directions. I think too many folks get hyped into his size.
After Week 1:
1) Kenny Irons
2) Adrian Peterson
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3) Marshawn Lynch
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4) Michael Bush
I'm basing this upon my opinion of transitioning their skills to the next level.
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Don Quixote
Footballguy
Michael Bush = broken leg.
Feel bad for him after he decided to come back to school for another year.
Feel bad for him after he decided to come back to school for another year.
Bears_Man2
Footballguy
Really? Wow.I stopped watching about a half hour ago.
EBF
Footballguy
It's going to be a good class.
At RB, Adrian Peterson, Kenny Irons, and Marshawn Lynch look like the top dogs. Expect Peterson to get loads of hype, but I don't know that he'll actually be the best value or the best propsect. He's a very good player, but he runs high and takes some monster hits. That could cost him in the NFL. Irons has a nearly ideal build and could surge up draft boards this season. Michael Bush is also worth tracking and could offer nice value due to his injury. There are a few other decent sleepers out there, but these are probably the main guys to focus on.
The WR crop is excellent. Calvin Johnson is my top prospect for the 2007 class. He looks like a can't-miss player. After that, expect Sidney Rice, Dwayne Jarrett, and Ted Ginn to be first round draft picks if they declare. Jason Hill of Washington State will get first day attention. I'm sure a few other guys will emerge during the season.
I don't know much about the QBs, but it seems like Quinn will be an early pick. I don't know enough about him to have much of an opinion. He's never looked like a star in the games that I've seen. Trent Edwards of Stanford is a solid prospect who has steadily improved throughout his career. His offensive line is brutal, but he could be another Cutler.
Anyhow, I think we're looking at a group of 7-8 elite prospects. Johnson, Jarrett, Irons, and Peterson look like the cream of the crop right now. Rice, Ginn, Bush and Lynch form a very strong second tier.
At RB, Adrian Peterson, Kenny Irons, and Marshawn Lynch look like the top dogs. Expect Peterson to get loads of hype, but I don't know that he'll actually be the best value or the best propsect. He's a very good player, but he runs high and takes some monster hits. That could cost him in the NFL. Irons has a nearly ideal build and could surge up draft boards this season. Michael Bush is also worth tracking and could offer nice value due to his injury. There are a few other decent sleepers out there, but these are probably the main guys to focus on.
The WR crop is excellent. Calvin Johnson is my top prospect for the 2007 class. He looks like a can't-miss player. After that, expect Sidney Rice, Dwayne Jarrett, and Ted Ginn to be first round draft picks if they declare. Jason Hill of Washington State will get first day attention. I'm sure a few other guys will emerge during the season.
I don't know much about the QBs, but it seems like Quinn will be an early pick. I don't know enough about him to have much of an opinion. He's never looked like a star in the games that I've seen. Trent Edwards of Stanford is a solid prospect who has steadily improved throughout his career. His offensive line is brutal, but he could be another Cutler.
Anyhow, I think we're looking at a group of 7-8 elite prospects. Johnson, Jarrett, Irons, and Peterson look like the cream of the crop right now. Rice, Ginn, Bush and Lynch form a very strong second tier.
JayMan
Footballguy
'07 [DYNASTY] rookie draft (assuming the underclassmen declare and non-IDP league):1.01 - A. Peterson;1.02 - C. Johnson;1.03 - M. Lynch;1.04 - D. Jarrett;1.05 - S. Rice;1.06 - K. Irons;1.07 - B. Quinn;1.08 - T. Ginn Jr;1.09 - M. Bush;1.10 - B. Brohm;1.11 - D. Stanton;1.12 - J. Samardzija.
I have a feeling Samardzija wont be a first rounder by the time rookie drafts roll around. He didn't even look like the best WR on the Irish this weekend.
EBF
Footballguy
I'm with you here. I've never liked him as an NFL prospect. He was only slightly better than Stovall, who was barely a third rounder.
jurb26
Footballguy
It's a fantastic class of players. The best of which are WRs:
1. Calvin Johnson 6-4, 235
Georgia Tech JR
2. Sidney Rice 6-3, 200
South Carolina SO
3. Dwyane Jarrett 6-5, 210
Southern California JR
4. Ted Ginn 6-0, 180
Ohio State JR
5. Jeff Samardzija 6-5, 215
Notre Dame SR
6. Steve Smith 6-0, 195
Southern California SR
1. Calvin Johnson 6-4, 235
Georgia Tech JR
2. Sidney Rice 6-3, 200
South Carolina SO
3. Dwyane Jarrett 6-5, 210
Southern California JR
4. Ted Ginn 6-0, 180
Ohio State JR
5. Jeff Samardzija 6-5, 215
Notre Dame SR
6. Steve Smith 6-0, 195
Southern California SR
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JayMan
Footballguy
I'm just glad you didn't have anything bad to say about the first 11 picks (or they were that bad that it's not even worth mentioning
)As usual, you are probably right - and the fact that he looks to pursue a 2sports career (MLB - not Middle LineBacker!) will make him slide (in April and in rookie drafts)Maybe one of Ken Darby / Darius Walker / Jason Hill / Aundrae Allison / Robert Meachem / Greg Olson / Zach Miller could represent a 1st round [DYNASTY] pick?
EBF
Footballguy
Every year a few RBs sneak into the first round of rookie drafts. Someone like Lorenzo Booker, Lynell Hamilton, or Andre Brown will be a 2nd-3rd round NFL pick. That's all it takes.I'm just glad you didn't have anything bad to say about the first 11 picks (or they were that bad that it's not even worth mentioning
Another important note: Sam Keller transferred to Nebraska and redshirted. He won't be going pro next year.
I wouldn't worry too much about Bush's leg. He won't be coming back, althogh I've heard he could redshirt.
Rice is a Sophmore, he's not coming out.
I don't really know how often TE's come out early, but Miller and Olson are Juniors.
Here's a rundown of the top talent in a mock draft (IDP Dynasty)
1.01 - A.Peterson*
1.02 - K.Irons
1.03 - B.Quinn
1.04 - M.Bush*
1.05 - M.Lynch*
1.06 - C.Johnson*
1.07 - B.Brohm*
1.08 - K.Darby
1.09 - D.Jarrett*
1.10 - D.Stanton
1.11 - P.Willis
1.12 - T.Ginn Jr.*
1.13 - P.Posluszny
1.14 - J.Hill
1.15 - J.Samardzija
1.16 - A.Pittman*
I wouldn't worry too much about Bush's leg. He won't be coming back, althogh I've heard he could redshirt.
Rice is a Sophmore, he's not coming out.
I don't really know how often TE's come out early, but Miller and Olson are Juniors.
Here's a rundown of the top talent in a mock draft (IDP Dynasty)
1.01 - A.Peterson*
1.02 - K.Irons
1.03 - B.Quinn
1.04 - M.Bush*
1.05 - M.Lynch*
1.06 - C.Johnson*
1.07 - B.Brohm*
1.08 - K.Darby
1.09 - D.Jarrett*
1.10 - D.Stanton
1.11 - P.Willis
1.12 - T.Ginn Jr.*
1.13 - P.Posluszny
1.14 - J.Hill
1.15 - J.Samardzija
1.16 - A.Pittman*
JayMan
Footballguy
You're stating that Rice isn't coming out even though he could, right? (Just want to be sure)I think junior TEs come out early when they clearly have a chance to be the first ones selected... just look at Heath Miller and Vernon Davis the last 2 years... that is the case for Olson and Miller this year...
Gandalf
Footballguy
Rice is definitely draft eligible. Not sure he'll come out with the competition at WR though.
I'm a HUGE Marshawn Lynch fan. People are down on Cal RBs after the Arrington debacle, but anyone who has seen this kid run can attest that he is a much better RB compared to JJ. He's bigger, has sweet cutting ability, great vision, and breakaway speed. Plus, he's got a great attitude. A real team player.
I'm a HUGE Marshawn Lynch fan. People are down on Cal RBs after the Arrington debacle, but anyone who has seen this kid run can attest that he is a much better RB compared to JJ. He's bigger, has sweet cutting ability, great vision, and breakaway speed. Plus, he's got a great attitude. A real team player.
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Don Quixote
Footballguy
Any thoughts on Troy Smith? I've seen him all over the place on people's boards. From a 1st Round pick to a mid-round pick to a late-round pick.
It's hard to evaluate him because Ohio State doesn't demand a lot from its QB's, but he has been effective for what he has been asked to do. I haven't seen much from him to impress me though. He's smaller than the typical NFL QB. He's not a very accurate thrower. And he doesn't possess the overall athletic ability of Michael Vick or Vince Young to make up for the negatives.
I'd probably put him around a 4th-5th round pick. Anyone agree/disagree?
It's hard to evaluate him because Ohio State doesn't demand a lot from its QB's, but he has been effective for what he has been asked to do. I haven't seen much from him to impress me though. He's smaller than the typical NFL QB. He's not a very accurate thrower. And he doesn't possess the overall athletic ability of Michael Vick or Vince Young to make up for the negatives.
I'd probably put him around a 4th-5th round pick. Anyone agree/disagree?
jurb26
Footballguy
Rice can come out this year.
All in all, I'd say 2007 RBs will be equal to this year, 2007 WRs will be MUCH stronger, 2007 QBs will be weaker, 2007 TEs will be weaker.
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Gandalf
Footballguy
I think that's a good assessment of Troy Smith. Having Ted Ginn, Jr. sure helps a lot too. Every time I watch Ginn and Ohio State, he looks like Neo from the Matrix... everyone else is moving in slo mo. The guy is just so fast and fluid. I haven't felt that way since seeing Mike Vick play at VTech. If he can become a more polished WR this year, he could become the #2 in my mind after Calvin Johnson who is #1 in my book.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Rice is a draft eligible Sophomore. I expect him to be in the 07 draft.Keller never should have been rated so high. He's not going to make it in the NFL, ever.
I mentioned this prior to the 06 draft, so I'll stick with it. This could turn into the year of the QB. Ben Olson looks every bit as good as he once promised to be. He is not being mentioned anywhere (yet), but you can be sure most NFL scouts already have him on the same level as Brohm and Quinn. Imo, he is better, better than Leinart and Cutler too. He's in the same boat as Rice, but stands a better chance of staying in school. I still expect him in the draft. Drew Stanton has solid NFL talent. I thought Troy Smith looked better than Quinn in their bowl game last year, and I still think he does. JaMarcus Russell looks like a quality prospect too. I think Colt Brennan is overlooked as a system guy with big numbers. He just needs a little beef and he'll be good-- Gradkowski, Brennan, same kind of QB. Trent Edwards is better than both of them.
I think a bunch of QBs are being overrated. Jordan Palmer, Kevin Kolb, Chris Leak, Tyler Palko, and Jeff Rowe to be more specific. But it's a long season and this is a deep class of QBs that is sort of under the radar after Quinn.
ETA: John David Booty, oft rumored to be better than Leinart, got off to an impressive start, but I wasn't that impressed watching. Still, the arm and presence of a very high quality QB is there. Some of you may recall how much I liked Cutler. I like many of these QBs better.
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Don Quixote
Footballguy
Ginn has the speed, but he drops a lot of passes. When I see Ted Ginn, I see Peter Warrick.
coolnerd
Footballguy
Think this is a pretty fair assessment. I will say that the 2007 WRs will return us to the fool' s gold approach at WR where we will have big physical WRs from name brand programs who will prove to be boom/busts. Early return on 2006 is that there were quality WRs, but they did not play at top end programs and you had know what you were looking at (both real pro scouts and fantasy players) to figure out the 4 or 5 quality players among a group of 12-15 maybe more guys. Of course, there will be a RB emerge from the Tony Hunts, Courtney Lewis' etc of the world
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Just to go on record very early.
QBs I like better than Cutler or Leinart:
Ben Olson
Brian Brohm
Troy Smith
Brady Quinn
Drew Stanton
Trent Edwards
QBs I like better than Cutler or Leinart:
Ben Olson
Brian Brohm
Troy Smith
Brady Quinn
Drew Stanton
Trent Edwards
Football Jones
Footballguy
I like Troy Smith better than most draftniks. He throws a nice ball & is more accurate than he gets credit for. Being 6'1" will hurt is draft status, but he does have the athleticism needed to survive if you don't have ideal height.
jurb26
Footballguy
Ginn can easily become the #1 WR in this years draft with polish. He has something that very few guys have and nobody can teach. Olympic/World Class speed.
JayMan
Footballguy
You like him better - as a pro prospect - than Calvin Johnson (assuming both get "polished" up until next April)? Just asking... In my mind, Johnson is already the complete package - 6'5" / 235 / 4.50-40 / 45" vertical / glue-hands / crisp route-running... Ginn is clearly the fastest of the two though...
toppshelff
Footballguy
In a 4-keeper league, my best 4 players are RBs (LJ, Portis, Brown, Maroney). I have 2 first round picks, so would love to fill out WR or QB with these. Might Calvin be worth a pick this high?
Adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, and Calvin Johnson are still the elite players. Brady Quinn is the class of the QBs. I would consider JaMarcus Russell a close second (for fantasy), with Troy Smith and Drew Stanton filling out the second tier of QBs. Kenny Irons is the best of the 2nd tier backs, along with Michael Bush. Ted Ginn is the best of the 2nd tier WRs, along with Samardzija, Jarrett, Higgins. Im not that big a fan of the TE class - but Zach Miller and Greg Olsen both look like they'll be fantasy factors.
Of course, all of these is subject to change once we see who declares for the draft as a underclassman.
Of course, all of these is subject to change once we see who declares for the draft as a underclassman.
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FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Agree with most of what has been said here. ADP, Lynch, and Johnson are the clear top 3 and likely a cut above the rest. You could possibly even put ADP a cut above the other two as well (I definitely do, many others don't however)...the next big thing.
I would disagree on Irons. I usually love me some Auburn RBs but I don't even think Irons is the best RB on his team. I would also put Ginn ahead of Jarrett and Rice.
Almost all of these guys are underclassmen so this would all be dependant on them all coming out this year.
I would disagree on Irons. I usually love me some Auburn RBs but I don't even think Irons is the best RB on his team. I would also put Ginn ahead of Jarrett and Rice.
Almost all of these guys are underclassmen so this would all be dependant on them all coming out this year.
VaCatFan
Footballguy
Irons is really strange to me. He can totally dominate games, and then disappear games. Doesn't help that he's had a lot of ankle injuries this year. ADP and Johnson seem to be 1-2 in most peoples minds. Guess that would leave Lynch 3rd.
