DYNASTY: 2011 Top 15 Prospects (1 Viewer)

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

There are three WR's in the 2011 class on par with Dez Bryant's talent level (Floyd, Green, Baldwin - in that order)

I don't know about that. All of those guys have first round potential, but at this juncture I don't consider any of them can't-miss prospects like Crabtree or Bryant. I think next year's class will be more about depth than marquee talent.

I would be hard pressed to call Green, Floyd, Jones, Baldwin and D. Brown "depth". At this point of their careers so far each would have been either the 1st or 2nd WR taken if you had added them to the last two WR classes, and definitely the 1st WR to come off the board in the 2008 class.

 

[Balco]

People always talk about Julio's raw talent, but I don't really see it on the field. He's not particularly explosive and I don't think he has the playing strength of your typical big-bodied possession WR.

Interesting...I watch every game he plays and I think his explosiveness and strength are his best attributes.

That reception shows me nothing. He catches with the ball against his body, and then runs past players. One of which took himself out of the play, the other was blocked by a tackle.He really needs to hone his route running. And he is a body catcher, no ideal. One thing I like about him is his power. He is a load to bring down for a wide receiver. But he is far from a finished product.

 

[EBF]

There are three WR's in the 2011 class on par with Dez Bryant's talent level (Floyd, Green, Baldwin - in that order)

I don't know about that. All of those guys have first round potential, but at this juncture I don't consider any of them can't-miss prospects like Crabtree or Bryant. I think next year's class will be more about depth than marquee talent.

I would be hard pressed to call Green, Floyd, Jones, Baldwin and D. Brown "depth". At this point of their careers so far each would have been either the 1st or 2nd WR taken if you had added them to the last two WR classes, and definitely the 1st WR to come off the board in the 2008 class.

I didn't call them depth. I said the strength of next year's class is depth.The guys you mentioned are the top of the 2011 group, but I don't personally put them on par with Crabtree or Bryant. I would say they're more in the ballpark of Nicks/Maclin/Thomas. I have to figure that one or two of them might ultimately go in the top 10, but I think their talent level is being exaggerated on the internet in the posts I'm seeing here and elsewhere. The only 2011 rookie that I would give up a top 4-5 2010 rookie pick to acquire is Ingram.

 

[Balco]

AJ Green: Perfect Receiver Clip

 

[Balco]

 

[Glaven]

AJ Green: Perfect Receiver Clip

Excellent hands catcher, but he really needs to hit the gym and put on some weight. He looks rail thin.

 

[Balco]

AJ Green: Perfect Receiver Clip

Excellent hands catcher, but he really needs to hit the gym and put on some weight. He looks rail thin.

He is. And he does not have the frame to add weight. I am sure that will be the knock on him when he declares, but I think he can excel in the NFL in spite of his build.

 

[gump]

People always talk about Julio's raw talent, but I don't really see it on the field. He's not particularly explosive and I don't think he has the playing strength of your typical big-bodied possession WR.

Interesting...I watch every game he plays and I think his explosiveness and strength are his best attributes.

I agree...he needs to work on becoming a better receiver....route running, adjusting to the ball, timing, catching everything. His raw talent is there though, which is not what EBF was saying.

 

[EBF]

AJ Green: Perfect Receiver Clip

Excellent hands catcher, but he really needs to hit the gym and put on some weight. He looks rail thin.

That is my beef with Green as well. Super athlete with reliable hands, but...Very slight frame. Built like a finesse receiver (i.e. Ochocinco or Reggie Wayne), but much taller than usual. Will he have trouble separating from pro corners? He won't overpower anyone, he doesn't appear to have elite speed, and I doubt quickness will be a strength at the NFL level. He's just a tall, athletic hands catcher without any elite physical traits.

That description sounds a lot like Sidney Rice, who has certainly worked out nicely. He might be the best comparison for Green. A tall, skinny athletic guy who excels because of his height/body control/hands even though he lacks great strength and speed.

 

[EBF]

I agree...he needs to work on becoming a better receiver....route running, adjusting to the ball, timing, catching everything. His raw talent is there though, which is not what EBF was saying.

Yea, I just don't see the elite physical ability that other people see in Julio. I really believe that his massive high school hype is playing a big role in all of the acclaim he gets from internet draft pundits. On the field, I don't think he's lived up to his reputation. For now I'm standing by my stance that his upside is Hakeem Nicks rather than Terrell Owens. I will take a closer look next season.

 

[gump]

I agree...he needs to work on becoming a better receiver....route running, adjusting to the ball, timing, catching everything. His raw talent is there though, which is not what EBF was saying.

Yea, I just don't see the elite physical ability that other people see in Julio. I really believe that his massive high school hype is playing a big role in all of the acclaim he gets from internet draft pundits. On the field, I don't think he's lived up to his reputation. For now I'm standing by my stance that his upside is Hakeem Nicks rather than Terrell Owens. I will take a closer look next season.

Whether it's dragging multiple defenders or using a lethal stiff arm...he's shown his strength consistently. Explosiveness is debatable I guess...he'll be returning some punts and kicks this year though, so maybe he'll show you more there.Alabama people worry about the other aspects of his game...it's to the point where I've heard he had his eyes checked.

 

[jurb26]

AJ Green: Perfect Receiver Clip

Excellent hands catcher, but he really needs to hit the gym and put on some weight. He looks rail thin.

That is my beef with Green as well. Super athlete with reliable hands, but...Very slight frame. Built like a finesse receiver (i.e. Ochocinco or Reggie Wayne), but much taller than usual. Will he have trouble separating from pro corners? He won't overpower anyone, he doesn't appear to have elite speed, and I doubt quickness will be a strength at the NFL level. He's just a tall, athletic hands catcher without any elite physical traits.

That description sounds a lot like Sidney Rice, who has certainly worked out nicely. He might be the best comparison for Green. A tall, skinny athletic guy who excels because of his height/body control/hands even though he lacks great strength and speed.

Rice isn't a bad comparison for Green, but Green is far more athletic than Rice. He is quicker, more explosive, faster and jumps better than him. Green is the surest WR to come out in years IMO.

 

[offdee]

My personal ranking of ALL present RB and WR's college player's future NFL potential. (Richardson is the only one on the list not eligible in 2011)

1) Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama

2) Ryan Williams, RB, Virginia Tech

3) Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama

4) AJ Green, WR, Georgia

5) Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

6) Jonathan Baldwin, WR, Pitt

7) Julio Jones, WR, Alabama

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

There are three WR's in the 2011 class on par with Dez Bryant's talent level (Floyd, Green, Baldwin - in that order)

I don't know about that. All of those guys have first round potential, but at this juncture I don't consider any of them can't-miss prospects like Crabtree or Bryant. I think next year's class will be more about depth than marquee talent.

I would be hard pressed to call Green, Floyd, Jones, Baldwin and D. Brown "depth". At this point of their careers so far each would have been either the 1st or 2nd WR taken if you had added them to the last two WR classes, and definitely the 1st WR to come off the board in the 2008 class.

I didn't call them depth. I said the strength of next year's class is depth.The guys you mentioned are the top of the 2011 group, but I don't personally put them on par with Crabtree or Bryant. I would say they're more in the ballpark of Nicks/Maclin/Thomas. I have to figure that one or two of them might ultimately go in the top 10, but I think their talent level is being exaggerated on the internet in the posts I'm seeing here and elsewhere. The only 2011 rookie that I would give up a top 4-5 2010 rookie pick to acquire is Ingram.

I would trade any rookie other than Dez Bryant for any one of Ingram, Floyd or Green right now. A lot can happen over the course of a year, but I really think you are missing the boat on some of these guys,

 

[jurb26]

There are three WR's in the 2011 class on par with Dez Bryant's talent level (Floyd, Green, Baldwin - in that order)

I don't know about that. All of those guys have first round potential, but at this juncture I don't consider any of them can't-miss prospects like Crabtree or Bryant. I think next year's class will be more about depth than marquee talent.

I would be hard pressed to call Green, Floyd, Jones, Baldwin and D. Brown "depth". At this point of their careers so far each would have been either the 1st or 2nd WR taken if you had added them to the last two WR classes, and definitely the 1st WR to come off the board in the 2008 class.

I didn't call them depth. I said the strength of next year's class is depth.The guys you mentioned are the top of the 2011 group, but I don't personally put them on par with Crabtree or Bryant. I would say they're more in the ballpark of Nicks/Maclin/Thomas. I have to figure that one or two of them might ultimately go in the top 10, but I think their talent level is being exaggerated on the internet in the posts I'm seeing here and elsewhere. The only 2011 rookie that I would give up a top 4-5 2010 rookie pick to acquire is Ingram.

I would trade any rookie other than Dez Bryant for any one of Ingram, Floyd or Green right now. A lot can happen over the course of a year, but I really think you are missing the boat on some of these guys,

Next years draft class as a whole isn't nearly as good as this years however, from a fantasy standpoint I think it's going to be vastly better. I'd take any of Ingram, Green or Floyd over the top guys from this class. Jones also has the ability to jump into that group as well. The QBs, who are often an afterthought in fantasy conversation, are also better.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Here's what I like about Williams:He almost never runs out of bounds, instead fighting more yardage and even using the sideline to HIS advantage sometimes.

He always keeps his legs moving and because of that has a knack for coming out of piles after it looks like he's stopped.

He's a patient runner and follows his blockers well.

He seems to be a capable enough receiver.

And while he might not be the most electric runner in the open field, he has a knack for making people miss in tight spaces.

 

[Balco]

Does a great job of setting up blocks as well.Always keeps his legs moving in short yardage, a good thing to see.

I don't think he will run a 4.3 40, but he is a very good running back. Excellent receiver, catches the ball with his hands, and is pretty fluid.

Kind of reminds me of Ryan Mathews, actually.

His stock will continue to rise.

 

[domvin]

Really?

I think there is more blue chip talent in next years draft, than this past season?

Love to hear your thoughts .....unless you are including defensive players in your comparison.

One guy who needs to be added is South Carolina TE Weslye Saunders.

I'd also add a few to keep an eye on:

FSU QB Christian Ponder

Delaware QB Pat Devlin

WR Austin Pettis, Boise State

Love Kyle Rudolph, but I am an ND homer....

 

[EBF]

Rice isn't a bad comparison for Green, but Green is far more athletic than Rice. He is quicker, more explosive, faster and jumps better than him.

So he's Randy Moss? I mean, Sidney Rice is coming off a 1300+ yard season. I find it hard to believe that Green is somehow leaps and bounds beyond him athletically. If anything, he'll probably be lucky to become the kind of player that Rice is. It sounds like people are getting a little bit carried away with early evaluations of the 2011 class. Many of these guys won't be picked as high as projected and many who eventually become first round picks won't become standout NFL players. Just go back and look at recent draft classes. It's rare to find a group with more than 3-4 top shelf talents. I like this WR class, but the odds say that a couple of these guys will go the way of Koren Robinson/David Terrell/Roy Williams/Reggie Wiliams/Troy Williamson/Ted Ginn/Mike Williams. It's a pretty long road from college to NFL stardom and only a select few players will complete the journey. That's something to keep in mind when you start hyping these young guys.

 

[BigTex]

My personal ranking of ALL present RB and WR's college player's future NFL potential. (Richardson is the only one on the list not eligible in 2011)1) Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama2) Ryan Williams, RB, Virginia Tech3) Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama4) AJ Green, WR, Georgia5) Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame6) Jonathan Baldwin, WR, Pitt7) Julio Jones, WR, Alabama

Spot on!

 

[shader]

People always talk about Julio's raw talent, but I don't really see it on the field. He's not particularly explosive and I don't think he has the playing strength of your typical big-bodied possession WR. If it wasn't for his high school reputation, no one would be talking about him as a first round pick right now because he hasn't looked the part on the field. I've heard comparisons to Terrell Owens, but at best his upside is probably Hakeem Nicks. Maybe a late first rounder. Not an elite, top 10 type talent.

Playing strength? I've never seen a guy with more strength as a WR other than Terrell Owens.Julio has to work on his hands, that's a HUGE red flag. But he's got more playing strength than any WR in the 2011 draft (or for that matter of any draft in the last 5 years). He routinely has 4-5 guys having to tackle him to bring him down.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Rice isn't a bad comparison for Green, but Green is far more athletic than Rice. He is quicker, more explosive, faster and jumps better than him.

So he's Randy Moss? I mean, Sidney Rice is coming off a 1300+ yard season. I find it hard to believe that Green is somehow leaps and bounds beyond him athletically. If anything, he'll probably be lucky to become the kind of player that Rice is.

To be fair, Rice has never really been known for his quickness or explosiveness off the line.Where Rice is great is with his ball skills, which I've always said was what would make him a great NFL receiver since I saw him play in person back in his freshman year at SC. AJ Green or countless other guys are perfectly capable of being more athletic than Rice without ever putting up Randy Moss type numbers, or even Sidney Rice type numbers.A lot of guys are much better athletes than Larry Fitzgerald. But that doesn't make them better receivers.

 

[kremenull]

People always talk about Julio's raw talent, but I don't really see it on the field. He's not particularly explosive and I don't think he has the playing strength of your typical big-bodied possession WR. If it wasn't for his high school reputation, no one would be talking about him as a first round pick right now because he hasn't looked the part on the field. I've heard comparisons to Terrell Owens, but at best his upside is probably Hakeem Nicks. Maybe a late first rounder. Not an elite, top 10 type talent.

Playing strength? I've never seen a guy with more strength as a WR other than Terrell Owens.Julio has to work on his hands, that's a HUGE red flag. But he's got more playing strength than any WR in the 2011 draft (or for that matter of any draft in the last 5 years). He routinely has 4-5 guys having to tackle him to bring him down.

Huh????There are a ton of guys in the NFL who have greater playing strength than Julio....I'll start with the bigger guys first....Andre1500Larry FitzgeraldAnquan BoldinKenny BrittArrelious BennMiles AustinBrandon MarshallDwayne BoweT.O.Smaller guys......Steve Smith (CAR)Percy HarvinGolden TateI'd rate Jones about 3rd or 4th in his own draft class with regards to playing strength..........Floyd, Baldwin, and DeAndre Brown are no slouches in this dept......Overall, this metric is highly subjective and what really only matters is piling up yards, either via breaking tackles or avoiding em (ala DeSean)

 

[got_nugs]

Pre Christian Ponder injury 2009(stats taken late Oct).

Ponder: 2176 passing yards, 74.3% completions, 12 TD's 1 int.

Clausen: 1804 passing yards, 64.9% completions, 14 TD's, 2 ints.

Tebow: 1032 passing yards, 65.5% completions, 8 TD's, 2 ints.

McCoy: 1537 passing yards, 70% completions, 11 TD's, 7 ints.

Forcier: 1027 passing yards, 57.9% completions, 7 TD's 4 ints.

Harris: 1518 passing yards, 64.8% completions, 11 TD's, 7 ints.

 

[ckl81]

Maybe I'm missing something, but based on the highlight vid posted up above, a couple things stuck out at me: he got tripped up on and went down with quite a few arm tackles and bumps (not great balance?), and seemed to get caught from behind more than you'd like to see. These seem like big issues to me for translating to the NFL. I do agree, he does appear to be a good receiver and has good patience, and very good shiftiness with a full head of steam. What's a good comparison in the NFL?

 

[bigmiiiiike]

Also, what do you think of Terrelle Pryor?

After his dominating performance in the Rose Bowl last season and with the amount of returning starters, I foresee a great season by him, with a possible run at the Heismann race, a-la Vince Young's senior year. If he makes a strong run at the Heismann and decides to come out next year, where do you see him? I don't think many teams would want to pass on a 6'6" QB that can run as fast as he can, if he has any skill at passing whatsoever.

Teams pass on these skills all the time @ the QB position.

I could see a team trying him @ another postion, just not QB.

I don't think Pryor will amount to anything in the NFL at QB. If he is willing to try his hand at WR or TE, I don't see how he doesn't end up a very high pick. I know the Matt Jones experiment failed miserably, but you can bet at least one GM will pull the trigger again.



OSU homer here. As of right now, I'd say Pryor's game doesn't translate well to the NFL, and that he's a poor man's Vince Young. He's obviously athletic/mobile, but accuracy is just awful, I mean awful. Watch any OSU game from start to finish, and you'll find yourself surprised when he actually hits someone in stride. He has a cannon of an arm, but so does JaMarcus Russell. Vick was a much more accurate passer, and he had trouble completing 60% of his passes.

That said, Pryor was only a sophomore last year. Hopefully Tressel will develop him into more of a pure passer, but Pryor's first instinct is always to tuck and run when someone isn't wide open. While it allows him to scamper for many first downs, that'll hinder his passing development.

 

[doowain]

Good list here. I'm with you on Armon Binns. Very underappreciated due to all the hype Gilyard got. I'd flip DeAndre and Williams and put Binns in between them at #8. He's very good in traffic and a big red zone target.

From me in another thread:

im confused... what is little missing? i cant find any major weaknesses. hes better after catch than both jones and green, and is just as aggressive going after the ball in the air. unless he has some character concerns, id like someone to tell me why he isnt a top player next year

Not missing much IMO. He's just not as known or heralded as the others mentioned in this thread.

Same with Armon Binns. And, really, out of the top guys (Green, Jones, Floyd, and Baldwin) Binns has the best QB throwing him the ball (Zach Collaros). I think he can have a monster season with Gilyard no longer there.He put up 61/888/11 last year as the 2nd option in the passing game. He's a huge target in the red zone (6'4 - 200lbs) and had at least 1 TD in 9 straight games to end the season. If you need any indication of how good he is....check out the Big East Championship vs. Pittsburgh last year.

Game winning TD vs. Pitt

This is what he did last year with Collaros as the starting QB when Pike went down (4 games).

18 receptions

383 yards

21.2 avg

5 TDs

That projects to:

54 / 1149 / 15

Clearly that yards per reception will come down some, but I could also see the receptions going up to the 75 range. I'd be absolutely shocked if he doesn't finish with 1000/8.

You guys will know this name come Fall.

 

[massraider]

 

[jurb26]

Rice isn't a bad comparison for Green, but Green is far more athletic than Rice. He is quicker, more explosive, faster and jumps better than him.

So he's Randy Moss? I mean, Sidney Rice is coming off a 1300+ yard season. I find it hard to believe that Green is somehow leaps and bounds beyond him athletically. If anything, he'll probably be lucky to become the kind of player that Rice is.

To be fair, Rice has never really been known for his quickness or explosiveness off the line.Where Rice is great is with his ball skills, which I've always said was what would make him a great NFL receiver since I saw him play in person back in his freshman year at SC. AJ Green or countless other guys are perfectly capable of being more athletic than Rice without ever putting up Randy Moss type numbers, or even Sidney Rice type numbers.A lot of guys are much better athletes than Larry Fitzgerald. But that doesn't make them better receivers.

Exactly! Moss is an awful comparison for any WR prospect. He was a one of a kind. Green is certainly closer to Moss' athletic ability than Rice but that doesn't mean either are really in that class.With that said, I think Green has great ball skills as well. He is a natural hands catcher and uses his size very well.

 

[Hoot&HoLLer]

Noel Devine?

For me he would be somewhere in that 15-20 range at this point.

What about the pitt back who lead all big east rushers last year? Dion Lewis while small, might even be a smidge bigger than the diminutive but lightening fast Devine, who is more Sproles than sure fire nfl stud.Great topic.Eta lewis might notbe draft eligible....think he is starting 2nd year out of h.s.

 

[Glaven]

Noel Devine?

For me he would be somewhere in that 15-20 range at this point.

What about the pitt back who lead all big east rushers last year? Dion Lewis while small, might even be a smidge bigger than the diminutive but lightening fast Devine, who is more Sproles than sure fire nfl stud.Great topic.Eta lewis might notbe draft eligible....think he is starting 2nd year out of h.s.

Dion Lewis is not draft eligible until 2012.

 

[cheese]

I really like that you have Binns on the list. He was completely overlooked last year.Paul Niles.

As a Bearcats fan I would just say that most people around the team consider Vidal Hazelton to be the better NFL prospect and he will likely be the #1 target in the offense this coming year. I would never want to say anything bad about Binns after what he did last year, but if I had to draft 2011 players today he would be below his teammate and certainly not top 10 nationally.

 

[doowain]

I really like that you have Binns on the list. He was completely overlooked last year.Paul Niles.

As a Bearcats fan I would just say that most people around the team consider Vidal Hazelton to be the better NFL prospect and he will likely be the #1 target in the offense this coming year. I would never want to say anything bad about Binns after what he did last year, but if I had to draft 2011 players today he would be below his teammate and certainly not top 10 nationally.

While I'm certainly intrigued by Hazelton's prospects in this offense, my enthusiasm is tempered considering he hasn't seen game action in well over a year. And from what I remember at USC he was a bit soft, no? It'll be nice if someone takes some heat off Binns, but I still see Armon as the guy to own and I think his ball skills and hands could translate to the next level today. His game reminds me A LOT of Chris Henry (RIP 15).

 

[cheese]

I really like that you have Binns on the list. He was completely overlooked last year.Paul Niles.

As a Bearcats fan I would just say that most people around the team consider Vidal Hazelton to be the better NFL prospect and he will likely be the #1 target in the offense this coming year. I would never want to say anything bad about Binns after what he did last year, but if I had to draft 2011 players today he would be below his teammate and certainly not top 10 nationally.

While I'm certainly intrigued by Hazelton's prospects in this offense, my enthusiasm is tempered considering he hasn't seen game action in well over a year. And from what I remember at USC he was a bit soft, no? It'll be nice if someone takes some heat off Binns, but I still see Armon as the guy to own and I think his ball skills and hands could translate to the next level today. His game reminds me A LOT of Chris Henry (RIP 15).

You'll find USC homers better able to answer the soft question, but my impression was...Soft in terms of nagging injuries keeping him off the field? YesSoft in terms of shying away from contact either blocking or going for a ball? NoThe Binns/Henry comparison definitely works in the sense that they share the same 2 strengths... Hands to make tough catches and (especially) the ability/desire to "go get it". My opinion is that Binns is a superior route runner, but Henry had more down the field speed.

 

[Faust]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true

Aside from Locker, top talent for 2011 draft could come on defense

By Bucky Brooks | NFL.com

Analyst

The draft is barely in the books, but scouts have already turned their focus to next year's prospects.

In looking at the senior class, next year could be heavily influenced by the defensive side of the ball. While pass rushers always rank at a premium, 2011 is similar to 2010 in that it is loaded with quality defensive tackles that have the potential to provide an instant impact.

Still, when all is said and done, a quarterback could end up being the No. 1 overall pick.

While it's important to remember that these are tentative projections that are bound to change due to a number of factors (production, injuries and/or character concerns), let's take a look at some of the top prospects in the 2011 senior class:

1. Jake Locker, Washington, QB: Locker is an athletic quarterback being groomed in a pro-style scheme under Steve Sarkisian. He made dramatic strides last season, and his continued development as a pocket passer gives him the best chance of being the No. 1 overall pick in the 2011. With his physical tools, running ability and intangibles, Locker is shaping up to be the kind of franchise quarterback scouts covet at the top of the board, and would be a natural fit in any style of offense.

2. Adrian Clayborn, Iowa, DE: Clayborn is a disruptive edge player, who can rush the passer or defend the run. He excels at creating negative plays, producing 11.5 sacks and 20 tackles for loss last season. With pass rushers always at a premium, Clayborn is viewed as a top-10 talent heading into next season.

3. Marvin Austin, North Carolina, DT: Austin's an interior rusher with superior quickness and burst. He's adept at working angles, and his surprising movement skills make him intriguing as a nose tackle or three-technique. Also graced with exceptional strength and power, Austin's undoubtedly one of the top interior defender prospects.

4. Cameron Heyward, Ohio State, DT: The son of former Pro Bowl running back Craig "Ironhead" Heyward, who passed away in 2006, has been on the rise after putting together a solid junior campaign. He led the Buckeyes with 6.5 sacks, and has the combination of size (6-foot-5, 288 pounds) and power to make him an ideal fit in multiple schemes as a 4-3 defensive tackle or 3-4 defensive end.

5. Bruce Carter, North Carolina, LB: Carter naturally flows from sideline-to-sideline, and possesses the burst to run down ball carriers from the backside. He's also a difference-maker in the kicking game with five blocks last season. Given his multi-faceted game and big-play ability, it's not surprising Carter is widely considered the top player at his position.

6. Ras-I Dowling, Virginia, CB: Dowling has jumped to the top of the charts due to his impressive combination of size (6-2, 200), speed and talent. He's an imposing physical presence and shows ball skills and awareness in coverage. Although some scouts will view him as a potential safety, Dowling can cement his status as a top-flight corner with another solid season.

7. Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin, OT: Carimi is a rugged blocker with solid all-around skills. He's a surprisingly polished technician who displays quick feet and good hands. Though his game continues to need some refinement, Carimi has all of the tools to develop into an elite offense tackle as a pro.

8. Anthony Castonzo, Boston College, OT: The Eagles have a strong reputation for producing quality NFL offensive linemen, and Castonzo is poised to become the latest to carry on the tradition. The big (6-7, 295), imposing blocker has enticing potential, but needs to keep honing his technique to become a special prospect.

9. DeAndre McDaniel, Clemson, S: McDaniel made a major splash last season by leading the ACC with eight interceptions as a junior. He's a natural ball hawk, but can also be a hard-hitter with the ability to be a difference-maker against the run. With the safety position evolving in the modern game, McDaniel's versatility makes him an attractive option.

10. Von Miller, Texas A&M, OLB: Miller led the nation with 17 sacks last season, and is one of the few hybrid prospects with extensive experience in the 3-4. Miller specializes in creating instant pressure off the edge with first-step quickness. His knack for creating disruptive plays will stand out in the minds of evaluators. With more teams incorporating some version of the 3-4 in their playbooks, Miller will garner a lot of attention.

11. Allen Bailey, Miami, DT/DE: Bailey has the ability to line up at defensive end or tackle in a 4-3 scheme. He's a high-motor player with an exceptional first step and burst. Although Bailey has the size (6-4, 288) and strength to play rough and rugged at the point, he possesses the athleticism to work a blocker's edges. With seven sacks and 11 tackles for loss, scouts are intrigued by his disruptive potential.

12. Curtis Brown, Texas, CB: Brown is in line to become the next Longhorn star in the secondary. An electrifying athlete with outstanding speed, Brown could be a rare shutdown corner. Adept at playing in press coverage, Brown routinely blankets receivers and can do so without safety help. Though some will pick apart his game for having just one interception last season, his cover skills rank among the best in the college game.

 

[doowain]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true

Aside from Locker, top talent for 2011 draft could come on defense

By Bucky Brooks | NFL.com

Analyst

The draft is barely in the books, but scouts have already turned their focus to next year's prospects.

In looking at the senior class, next year could be heavily influenced by the defensive side of the ball. While pass rushers always rank at a premium, 2011 is similar to 2010 in that it is loaded with quality defensive tackles that have the potential to provide an instant impact.

Still, when all is said and done, a quarterback could end up being the No. 1 overall pick.

While it's important to remember that these are tentative projections that are bound to change due to a number of factors (production, injuries and/or character concerns), let's take a look at some of the top prospects in the 2011 senior class:

I'm fairly certain this thread was meant to be about the top offensive prospects.

 

[kremenull]

A link to a 2011 Mock. At least one big name is conspicuously absent.....Mark Ingam, hello?

Maybe he's biased a bit towards the 'Bama program as no way Marcel Dareus lasts until pick No. 32. Anyway, this is at least a rough guesstimate of where some of the premier talent stacks up against one another from one person's perspective.

http://www.rookiedraft.com/?p=2414

 

[offdee]

A link to a 2011 Mock. At least one big name is conspicuously absent.....Mark Ingam, hello?

Maybe he's biased a bit towards the 'Bama program as no way Marcel Dareus lasts until pick No. 32. Anyway, this is at least a rough guesstimate of where some of the premier talent stacks up against one another from one person's perspective.

http://www.rookiedraft.com/?p=2414

Evan Royster at #17 is laughable.

 

[EBF]

A link to a 2011 Mock. At least one big name is conspicuously absent.....Mark Ingam, hello?

Maybe he's biased a bit towards the 'Bama program as no way Marcel Dareus lasts until pick No. 32. Anyway, this is at least a rough guesstimate of where some of the premier talent stacks up against one another from one person's perspective.

http://www.rookiedraft.com/?p=2414

Evan Royster at #17 is laughable.

Yea, he sort of lost me there, especially with the description. Royster is by no means exciting/explosive.

 

[Abrantes]

A link to a 2011 Mock. At least one big name is conspicuously absent.....Mark Ingam, hello?

Maybe he's biased a bit towards the 'Bama program as no way Marcel Dareus lasts until pick No. 32. Anyway, this is at least a rough guesstimate of where some of the premier talent stacks up against one another from one person's perspective.

http://www.rookiedraft.com/?p=2414

Evan Royster at #17 is laughable.

Yea, he sort of lost me there, especially with the description. Royster is by no means exciting/explosive.

The description of Ryan Williams as "a more exlplossive version of Jerious Norwood" was equally baffling to me.Still, as a mock draft junkie, I'll read whatever.

 

[oukurt]

One player who I think will move up the draft boards during the college season that I haven't seen mentioned is John Clay, Wisconsin RB. He is a great combination of size and speed. He is not quite as fast as Ingram but he is a beast. I have recently seen him projected as a top 25 pick next season. Anybody else high on him?

 

[kremenull]

A link to a 2011 Mock. At least one big name is conspicuously absent.....Mark Ingam, hello?

Maybe he's biased a bit towards the 'Bama program as no way Marcel Dareus lasts until pick No. 32. Anyway, this is at least a rough guesstimate of where some of the premier talent stacks up against one another from one person's perspective.

http://www.rookiedraft.com/?p=2414

Evan Royster at #17 is laughable.

Yea, he sort of lost me there, especially with the description. Royster is by no means exciting/explosive.

I think if you replace Royster with Ingram at that selection and the mock would actually be pretty decent for this early in the process. Looks like a 'homer' projection to hype his guy up.....come draft time next year, Royster will be lagging pretty far behind Ingram and probably several other RBs. And A.J. Green is not quite on Moss' level, another overstatement. But he is darn good. Does anyone think WR Deonte Thompson (UF) or either of the Miami WRs will be any good? "Glue Hands" Johnson anyone?

 

[oukurt]

Also anyone know where RB Bryce Brown is going to play? Is he staying at Tennessee or is he transferring to KSU?

 

[nlgb1]

almost identical to deangelo williams if you ask me, just slightly more physical/breaks more tackles. this kid is cant miss IMO. already setting up to get some trade value for next year when ill be targeting him

 

[kremenull]

One player who I think will move up the draft boards during the college season that I haven't seen mentioned is John Clay, Wisconsin RB. He is a great combination of size and speed. He is not quite as fast as Ingram but he is a beast. I have recently seen him projected as a top 25 pick next season. Anybody else high on him?

See Post #36.......

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

One player who I think will move up the draft boards during the college season that I haven't seen mentioned is John Clay, Wisconsin RB. He is a great combination of size and speed. He is not quite as fast as Ingram but he is a beast. I have recently seen him projected as a top 25 pick next season. Anybody else high on him?

See Post #36.......

I will be keeping a close eye on him. I think a good deal of his success has to do with the fact that be plays on Wisconsin, and they will always have a great running game. That being said, I think he is without a doubt more talented than P.J. Hill or Brian Calhoun. At this point in the game I have a very hard time seeing him end up as a 1st round pick, but he could very well end up on a path similar to say Shonn Greene I think.

 

[BeTheMatch]

One player who I think will move up the draft boards during the college season that I haven't seen mentioned is John Clay, Wisconsin RB. He is a great combination of size and speed. He is not quite as fast as Ingram but he is a beast. I have recently seen him projected as a top 25 pick next season. Anybody else high on him?

See Post #36.......

I will be keeping a close eye on him. I think a good deal of his success has to do with the fact that be plays on Wisconsin, and they will always have a great running game. That being said, I think he is without a doubt more talented than P.J. Hill or Brian Calhoun. At this point in the game I have a very hard time seeing him end up as a 1st round pick, but he could very well end up on a path similar to say Shonn Greene I think.

Slow, slow, slow. He'd run about a 5.2 from what I can tell

 

[kremenull]

One player who I think will move up the draft boards during the college season that I haven't seen mentioned is John Clay, Wisconsin RB. He is a great combination of size and speed. He is not quite as fast as Ingram but he is a beast. I have recently seen him projected as a top 25 pick next season. Anybody else high on him?

See Post #36.......

I will be keeping a close eye on him. I think a good deal of his success has to do with the fact that be plays on Wisconsin, and they will always have a great running game. That being said, I think he is without a doubt more talented than P.J. Hill or Brian Calhoun. At this point in the game I have a very hard time seeing him end up as a 1st round pick, but he could very well end up on a path similar to say Shonn Greene I think.

Slow, slow, slow. He'd run about a 5.2 from what I can tell

Actually, this kid has above average foot quickness for a guy so big. I believe he can clock somewhere in the range of 4.58-4.66. This would be plenty fine for a guy his size. As long as he can keep his pad level down, he could enjoy a pretty nice career along the lines of a Brandon Jacobs. Michael Bush-like but probably just a notch below as an overall athlete compared to M.Bush.

 

[MAC_32]

One player who I think will move up the draft boards during the college season that I haven't seen mentioned is John Clay, Wisconsin RB. He is a great combination of size and speed. He is not quite as fast as Ingram but he is a beast. I have recently seen him projected as a top 25 pick next season. Anybody else high on him?

See Post #36.......

I will be keeping a close eye on him. I think a good deal of his success has to do with the fact that be plays on Wisconsin, and they will always have a great running game. That being said, I think he is without a doubt more talented than P.J. Hill or Brian Calhoun. At this point in the game I have a very hard time seeing him end up as a 1st round pick, but he could very well end up on a path similar to say Shonn Greene I think.

Slow, slow, slow. He'd run about a 5.2 from what I can tell

Actually, this kid has above average foot quickness for a guy so big. I believe he can clock somewhere in the range of 4.58-4.66. This would be plenty fine for a guy his size. As long as he can keep his pad level down, he could enjoy a pretty nice career along the lines of a Brandon Jacobs. Michael Bush-like but probably just a notch below as an overall athlete compared to M.Bush.

I don't think Clay's the best RB on his college team.

 

[kremenull]

Lately, I'm finding myself spending more time scouting the 2011 class as opposed to working on my 2010 fantasy rankings. Before I change gears to get back into redraft mode, I'll list my preliminary 2011 rookie rankings at each position for guys who are draft eligible (Note that all of these players may not necessarily enter the NFL draft). One thing that I'm projecting is that the 2011 WR class has the potential to be one of the best ever, at least in terms of fantasy stars and sterling contributors. The 2011 WRs will at least be as good as the 2009 class, but I believe even better overall in terms of elite talent and quality depth. Beloved guys like Crabtree, Nicks, Harvin, Britt, and Maclin would not stand out amongst this group. Also, the QB class could also be pretty special if a couple of guys with immense potential develop. Not really much to mention about the TE position. With that said, here it goes......

QBs

1. Andrew Luck - QB Stanford.....Great combo of prototypical size, arm strength, anticipation, and accuracy. Receiving masterful tutelage under Jim Harbaugh

2. Ryan Mallett - QB Arkansas.....Joe Flacco clone. The NFL should get it right and some team should select this kid ahead of Locker

3. Jake Locker - QB Washington....The Pac-10 gets beaten down on a national level (media bias), but they have some serious QB talent currently on display throughout the conference

4. Terrell Pryor - QB Ohio St.....Still waiting for him to make the quantum leap that his physical tools indicate. If it happens this year, he moves ahead of Locker, at minimum.

5. Christian Ponder - QB Florida St......Nice athleticism and accuracy. If he can stay healthy, could develop into an NFL franchise QB

6. Pat Devlin - QB Deleware.....Former Penn St. player making the most out of his transfer to D-1AA ala Joe Flacco

7. Jerrod Johnson - QB Texas A&M.....Another raw, but exciting specimen who may need some seasoning holding a clipboard for a couple of years, but the finished product could be Randall Cunningham....that would not be a bad career, I'd say

RBs

1. Mark Ingram - RB Alabama......Franchise, workhorse RB. Too many people getting caught up in Trent Richardson and somewhat ignoring this kid. Ingram is 2011 $$$$ and if any young prospect ever deserved a legendary comparison, IMO, it's this kid as he is eerily similar to Emmitt Smith.

2. Ryan Williams - RB Virginia Tech......If you didn't know better you might think that DeAngelo Williams was moonlighting as a college player once again. Kid could be that good.

3. Demarco Murray - RB Oklahoma.....While many have written him off due to injuries and not meeting expectations, I see an underrated and motivated player about to re-emerge in his final college season. No longer a thin, young kid, Murray is now a solid 215 lbs with great feet, nice burst, and underrated power.

4. Allen Bradford - RB USC......Lots to like here: Big frame, runs tough, above-average athleticism, and low-mileage due to RBBC his entire college career. I believe this kid will ascend up NFL draft boards, and the fantasy community will have to take notice.

5. Jamie Harper – RB Clemson……Former 5-Star recruit who may stick around for another year, but if he produces a big season I’d expect him to enter the 2011 draft. Nice combo of size, power, and speed.

6. Evan Royster - RB Penn St......Matt Forte-like, which in my estimation, is not a negative. Not everyone can be Chris Johnson or Adrian Peterson, and guys like this can still produce in the NFL.

7. Daniel Thomas – RB Kansas St……A bit on the taller side (6’2”), but has tremendous, natural running instincts.

8. Jacquizz Rodgers – RB Oregon St……Many compare him to MJD. I don’t fall in that camp. Runs a bit too physical for his size, not quite as shifty as he needs to be. Also has quite a bit of mileage for a small RB.

9. John Clay – RB Wisconsin……Big, powerful runner with good enough feet to make an impact as a 2-down RB at the next level. Must keep his pad-level down as he is a taller RB (listed at 6’2”), but doesn’t look quite that tall to me and Wisconsin has a history of listing guys bigger than they actually are.

10. Noel Devine – RB W.Virginia….Simply had to receive a mention as this guy is the most talented RB in next year’s draft…..if only he were 3 inches taller and 30 lbs heavier.

WRs

1. A.J. Green – WR Georgia…..Very fluid, natural hands catching WR. One of the Top 3-4 WR prospects over the last decade. Polished enough to make an immediate impact as a rookie, I’m talking 1,000 yd season.

2. Jonathan Baldwin – WR Pittsburgh….Huge WR, as in Calvin-esque, with tremendous athleticism and hands combo. If he can stay out of the police blotter, will be an NFL superstar.

3. Michael Floyd – WR Notre Dame…..Maybe the most talented of the crop, must stay focused and healthy.

4. Ronald Johnson – WR USC…….The best NFL WR prospect out of USC since, maybe Lynn Swann. Yeah, better than Keyshawn, Mike Williams, Steve Smith, and Damian Williams as I believe his game translates better to the next level.

5. Julio Jones – WR Alabama…..Very physical, talented WR who is a bit of an enigma. Maybe the system simply hasn’t allowed for him to truly blossom and match the hype of his H.S. legend

6. Chris Owusu – WR Stanford…..Remember the name as he could work his way up into the first round of the 2011 NFL draft. Very explosive player with the size to boot.

7. DeAndre Brown – WR Southern Miss….Working his way back off of a major injury (broken leg), but the size and athleticism are intriguing if he fully recovers to his Frosh level

8. DeVier Posey – WR Ohio St…..a bit inconsistent with his hands and sloppy route-running, but he possesses loads of talent

9. Greg Little – WR N.Carolina….In the mold of former Tar Heels Hakeem Nicks and Brooks Foster – strong, physical WRs with good hands who run well after the catch. Could rise up draft boards with a big season and offseason workouts

10. Terrance Toliver – WR LSU……an illustration of the depth of this WR class as Toliver probably would have been a 2nd Rd selection in the 2010 NFL draft, certainly ahead of all of the 3rd Rd selections like Shipley and former LSU Tiger LaFell

11. Jarrett Boykin – WR Virginia Tech…..A big-play guy with a very good size/athleticism combo. Should finally start to get some recognition during his Sr. season

12a. Austin Pettis – WR Boise St……fluid, rangy WR with some of the best hands around. Not overly athletic, but plays eerily similar to T.J. Houshmandzadeh

12b. Derrell Johnson-Koulianos – WR Iowa…..Unspectacular yet very steady performer who could become a Steve Smith (NYG) type of player as he has similar size, speed, and awareness

12c. Niles Paul – WR Nebraska……Intriguing physical specimen who appears to be a boom/bust type of proposition. Very good potential as a deep threat, Alvin Harper type playmaker. Pretty high ceiling.