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DYNASTY: 2012 Top college prospects (1 Viewer)

The closest list I have seen yet to my own early and fluid rankings. Biggest issue is Doug Martin being so low on the RB list.
Agreed. Nice to see David Wilson get ranked ahead of Lamar Miller for once, which is how I see it myself. Only issue is I think LaMichael James is too high from a fantasy perspective, but since I think those rankings are just ranking ability #4 is probably right. It would have been nice to see separate lists for WR and TE though.
 
Interesting matchup of under-the-radar RB prospects tonight when Arizona State (Cameron Marshall) faces Boise State (Doug Martin). I think Marshall has 2nd-4th round potential, but ASU is a mess and they don't always block well for him.

Don't be surprised if ASU wins this game though. They're a real Jekkyl & Hyde team this year. When they decide to show up, they're dangerous. Also keep an eye on WR Gerrel Robinson, who quietly topped 1000 yards this season and will almost certainly hear his name called sometime in April.

 
Doug Martin looks very good tonight against Arizona St.

Very good quickness/burst through the hole

Nice lateral quickness/making people miss

Showing great balance

Good power/breaking tackles

He may crack my top 3 rb's (Miller, Polk, Wilson currently #2/#3/#4). Could make for a very nice top 6 rb's this year

Richardson

Miller

Polk

Wilson

Martin

Ball

 
Yea, he seems to improve every time I see him play. He's a complete back now. Quick. Strong. A threat out of the backfield. Russ Lande had him in the first round of a mock recently. That seems like a stretch to me, but he can definitely be a 2nd or 3rd rounder. He's a guy who could produce right out of the gate if he lands in an open situation.

Marshall, on the other hand, hasn't shown much (although his crap teammates aren't helping). He is big and fast, but doesn't seem great at making people miss in tight spaces. That might be the difference between him and Martin.

 
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Doug Martin looks very good tonight against Arizona St. Very good quickness/burst through the holeNice lateral quickness/making people missShowing great balanceGood power/breaking tacklesHe may crack my top 3 rb's (Miller, Polk, Wilson currently #2/#3/#4). Could make for a very nice top 6 rb's this yearRichardsonMillerPolkWilsonMartinBall
Add Pierce and Turbin to that list.
 
Russ Lande seems to think the RB2 battle will come down to David Wilson, Lamar Miller, Doug Martin, and Montee Ball. Sounds about right.

 
Russ Lande seems to think the RB2 battle will come down to David Wilson, Lamar Miller, Doug Martin, and Montee Ball. Sounds about right.
Polk should be the discussion as well. But that's the real life NFL draft ranking you're talking about.Fantasy-wise, Wilson has the highest upside of of those listed with combination of speed and power. He's got some negatives though. Sill raw at the RB position and has fumbling issues.
 
Robert Turbin has declared. Should be a solid 3-down back where ever he lands.
I have never seen him play, but the stats are nice. Has anyone seen him play? Opinions?
Think Benjarvus Green-Ellis, with more burst and top end. Solid hands. Probably a 4.5 guy. Can break off some big runs, patient, waits for blocks to open hole, runs well in traffic.
 
Dwight Jones not showing the greatest of hands thus far through the 1st half of the Independence Bowl. Not sure how this compares to usual but probably not a true showing other than his TD grab early.

 
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Robert Turbin has declared. Should be a solid 3-down back where ever he lands.
I have never seen him play, but the stats are nice. Has anyone seen him play? Opinions?
From Rob Rang...
For those who haven't seen Turbin, he's a virtual pinball of muscle. Possessing as impressive an upper body physique as any running back in the country (well, perhaps excluding Alabama's Trent Richardson), Turbin uses his strong arms and good leg drive to plow through defenders. He's hardly just a power runner, however, possessing surprising agility and acceleration for such a powerful back.
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Here's an 8 minute clip of Bernard Pierce's junior season highlights.

Pierce looks to be quite the interesting prospect from a small conference. He pretty well looks like a man amongst boys beating up on MAC competition, which is what you like to see. Listed at ~6'0 ~220lbs, Pierce's lateral agility and change of direction skills are phenomenal for a back that size; only problem is his speed doesn't look great. He'll probably have adequate speed at best, I'm gonna guess he'll run somewhere in the 4.5s at the combine. Another thing I don't like is he's quite long legged, making him more susceptible to injuries imo. I don't find it particularly surprising that he had some injury issues the past couple years.

Regardless, Pierce definitely looks like he has NFL talent to me; I like him a lot more than I did before I saw that video.

 
Top 10 RBs: Alabama's Richardson is the total package

By Bucky Brooks NFL.com

Analyst

Published: Dec. 7, 2011 at 03:15 p.m. Updated: Dec. 7, 2011 at 11:32 p.m.

(*Denotes underclassmen)

1. Trent Richardson*, Alabama, RB (5-11, 224): Talented runner with a pro-ready game, Richardson excels at grinding out tough yardage between the tackles, while also providing explosive plays on perimeter runs. Richardson is also regarded as an exceptional receiver, which makes him an ideal feature back. With several evaluators viewing Richardson as a better prospect than his predecessor (Mark Ingram), he is the undisputed choice as the top runner in college football.

2. David Wilson*, Virginia Tech, RB (5-10, 205): Wilson is an explosive playmaker built in the mold of Ray Rice. He possesses the speed and quickness to scare defenders in space, but is also rugged enough to effectively run in tight quarters. Although his size leads to questions about his ability to carry the load, the fact that he finished 2011 with nine games with 20-plus carries suggests he is more than capable of being a workhorse.

3. Lamar Miller*, Miami (Fla.), RB (5-11, 212): Miller is a smooth runner with deceptive speed and quickness. He displays exceptional vision and awareness finding creases on the backside, and his surprising toughness on inside runs draws comparisons to former Hurricane Clinton Portis. While his dramatic drop in production during the final half of the season (only two 100-yard rushing games over final seven weeks) leads to questions about his ability to handle a heavy workload, his superior talent will make him hard to bypass as a potential franchise back.

4. LaMichael James*, Oregon, RB (5-9, 195): James is the dynamic playmaker that most offensive coordinators covet as a change-of-pace back in the backfield. He possesses a combination of speed, quickness and agility that makes him a threat to score from anywhere on the field. He shines as a runner/receiver in the Ducks' spread system. While there are certainly questions about whether James' remarkable production is a byproduct of playing in a wide-open scheme, he has potential to thrive as a Darren Sproles-like weapon for a creative playcaller.

5. Chris Polk*, Washington, RB (5-11, 222): As a hard-nosed runner with a crafty running style, Polk is one of college football's best runners between the tackles. He bounces through traffic and consistently finds a way to get to the second level. While he lacks elite speed, his combination of footwork and power allows him to thrive within the 15-yard box, which is key to being a productive pro runner.

6. Bernard Pierce*, Temple, RB (6-0, 218): After spearheading the Owls' resurgence with his hard-nosed running style and robust production, Pierce is unquestionably one of the top workhorses in college football. He is at his best grinding between the tackles on a series of power runs, but also flashes the burst to get around the corner. Although the inferior level of competition he has faced might factor into the equation when assessing his ability, Pierce is a legitimate runner.

7. Isaiah Pead, Cincinnati, RB (5-10, 200): Pead is an explosive jitterbug with the speed and quickness to be an effective change of pace back as a pro. He attacks the line of scrimmage with a burst, but also possesses the balance and body control to run through tackles at the second level. His dangerous open-field running skills also make him an effective playmaker in the passing game. Pead routinely turns screens into big plays, and his versatility will make him a coveted prospect in several war rooms across the league.

8. Cyrus Gray, Texas A&M, RB (5-10, 212): Gray is a blue-collar runner with vision, quickness and cutback skills. His decisive, "one-cut" running style leads to few negative runs and is ideally suited to the zone-based scheme predominantly used in the pro game. He might lack the big-play potential of others on this list, but his combination of athleticism and toughness makes him an enticing prospect for teams looking for an undervalued player.

9. Montee Ball, Wisconsin, RB (5-11, 212): Ball is the most productive runner in college football with 32 rushing touchdowns in 275 carries. His penchant for finding the paint is admirable, but scouts are more concerned with his ability to elude and avoid defenders in traffic. He doesn't appear to possess elite speed or quickness, and the Badgers' talented offensive line routinely springs him to the second level unimpeded. Ball is certainly talented, but he lacks some of the blue-chip traits of his counterparts.

10. Doug Martin, Boise State, RB (5-9, 210): Martin isn't as flashy as some runners on this list, but his game is built for the pros. He is a rugged inside runner with underrated power, and he has a knack for falling forward at the end of runs. His ability to finish is one of his biggest traits, and coaches will appreciate his steady game as a finisher in a four-minute situation. Martin isn't a workhorse runner to build an offense around, but he is a solid complementary player as part of a rotation.
 
Top 10 WR/TEs: OSU's Blackmon headlines explosive group

By Bucky Brooks NFL.com

Analyst

Published: Dec. 8, 2011 at 06:53 p.m. Updated: Dec. 8, 2011 at 09:25 p.m.

(*Denotes underclassmen; only players three years removed from high school considered)

1. Justin Blackmon*, Oklahoma State WR (6-1, 215): The most explosive receiver in college football has a game that is eerily similar to Terrell Owens'. His combination of size, strength and athleticism overwhelms defenders, and his penchant for playmaking makes him a potential anchor for a sophisticated passing game. Throw in the fact that Oklahoma State's coaches frequently have suggested Blackmon's skills are more advanced than Dez Bryant's at a similar stage, it's easy to place Blackmon at the top of the list.

2. Michael Floyd, Notre Dame, WR (6-3, 224): Floyd might rank as the best pass catcher in college football since Larry Fitzgerald. He displays unbelievable ball skills and has a knack for making the acrobatic catch look routine. Although there are questions about his top-end speed, he rarely is tracked from behind in the open field and plays with reckless abandon with the ball in his hands. If he is able to properly address his character issues, Floyd might make the race for the No. 1 spot closer than anyone anticipates.

3. Kendall Wright, Baylor, WR (5-10, 190): Wright has scouts drooling over his extraordinary combination of speed, athleticism and burst. He routinely blows past defenders on vertical routes but also flashes the ability to wreak havoc on "catch-and-run" plays on the outside. While he still remains unpolished as a route runner, the potential for Wright to make a Mike Wallace-like impact on the NFL has sent his stock soaring in war rooms across the league.

4. Alshon Jeffrey*, South Carolina, WR (6-4, 229): Jeffrey is a jump ball specialist with the size and athleticism that scouts covet in a No. 1 receiver. He excels at coming down with contested balls in traffic and is an indefensible target in the red area. Although he remains unrefined as a route runner and lacks top end speed, Jeffrey's size, strength and movement skills could prompt a team to envision him blossoming into a Plaxico Burress-type playmaker in the passing game.

5. Dwayne Allen*, Clemson, TE (6-4, 255): Scouts looking for the next tight end capable of creating mismatches should closely examine Allen's game. He displays the speed and athleticism to run away from linebackers, while possessing the size and strength to overpower defenders in tight quarters. The combination of skills makes him impossible to guard in passing situations, a quality that makes him a coveted prospect in many war rooms across the league. He could be the next hybrid tight end to take the league by storm.

6. Orson Charles*, Georgia, TE (6-3, 242): Charles has all of the physical tools to become a matchup nightmare as a pro. He runs like a receiver but has the size and strength to maul small defenders in isolated matchups. He is capable of stretching the field down the middle, while also acting as the primary target between the hashes. Although he must continue to develop as a blocker, his ability to impact the passing game as a vertical threat makes him a hot commodity in draft rooms.

7. Nick Toon, Wisconsin, WR (6-2, 220): Toon has been a bit of a disappointment this season, but his combination of size, strength and ball skills entices scouts. He flashes the ability to make plays between the hashes, while also acting as a sneaky deep threat in the Badgers' passing game. Toon has struggled gaining separation from defenders in tight coverage, but he could improve in that area with more reps and experience. With more teams looking for big, physical receivers to anchor their passing games, Toon's value remains high throughout the league.

8. Coby Fleener, Stanford, TE (6-6, 245): It's hard to find a tight end prospect with experience playing from a traditional alignment, but Fleener has been well groomed from his time at Stanford. He thrived in the Pac-12 running pro-style routes over the middle of the field, but he also acted as the Cardinal's lone deep threat the past two seasons. He led FBS with 10 touchdown receptions and posted an impressive 20.3 yards per catch average that is uncommon for the position. In addition, he displayed a gritty disposition as a blocker that makes it easy to envision him blossoming into an every down player as a pro. With few tight ends rivaling his overall game, it is quite possible that Fleener emerges as the top tight end on this list by draft day.

9. Dwight Jones, North Carolina, WR (6-4, 225): From a production standpoint, it is hard to dispute Jones' inclusion on this list after scoring 11 touchdowns and surpassing the 1,000-yard mark in 2011. He has the combination of size, speed and athleticism to emerge as a No. 1 receiver as a pro, and scouts are excited about his dramatic improvement as a senior. If he can continue to dazzle during the college all-star game circuit, Jones might climb higher on charts around the league.

10. Tommy Streeter*, Miami, WR, (6-5, 215): Streeter might be a surprising inclusion on this list, but a close look at his game reveals a big, athletic playmaker with speed to burn. He excels at blowing past defenders on vertical routes and is also a crafty route over the middle. His size and athleticism makes an ideal target as a potential No. 1 receiver. He needs to display better consistency with his hands.
 
Here's an 8 minute clip of Bernard Pierce's junior season highlights.

Pierce looks to be quite the interesting prospect from a small conference. He pretty well looks like a man amongst boys beating up on MAC competition, which is what you like to see. Listed at ~6'0 ~220lbs, Pierce's lateral agility and change of direction skills are phenomenal for a back that size; only problem is his speed doesn't look great. He'll probably have adequate speed at best, I'm gonna guess he'll run somewhere in the 4.5s at the combine. Another thing I don't like is he's quite long legged, making him more susceptible to injuries imo. I don't find it particularly surprising that he had some injury issues the past couple years.

Regardless, Pierce definitely looks like he has NFL talent to me; I like him a lot more than I did before I saw that video.
That's a good looking back. He has a tall build, but he still seems to run with good power and agility. Definitely one to keep an eye on.
 
Here's an 8 minute clip of Bernard Pierce's junior season highlights.

Pierce looks to be quite the interesting prospect from a small conference. He pretty well looks like a man amongst boys beating up on MAC competition, which is what you like to see. Listed at ~6'0 ~220lbs, Pierce's lateral agility and change of direction skills are phenomenal for a back that size; only problem is his speed doesn't look great. He'll probably have adequate speed at best, I'm gonna guess he'll run somewhere in the 4.5s at the combine. Another thing I don't like is he's quite long legged, making him more susceptible to injuries imo. I don't find it particularly surprising that he had some injury issues the past couple years.

Regardless, Pierce definitely looks like he has NFL talent to me; I like him a lot more than I did before I saw that video.
That's a good looking back. He has a tall build, but he still seems to run with good power and agility. Definitely one to keep an eye on.
I've seen a few people compare him to James Starks, which sounds about right.
 
Here's an 8 minute clip of Bernard Pierce's junior season highlights.

Pierce looks to be quite the interesting prospect from a small conference. He pretty well looks like a man amongst boys beating up on MAC competition, which is what you like to see. Listed at ~6'0 ~220lbs, Pierce's lateral agility and change of direction skills are phenomenal for a back that size; only problem is his speed doesn't look great. He'll probably have adequate speed at best, I'm gonna guess he'll run somewhere in the 4.5s at the combine. Another thing I don't like is he's quite long legged, making him more susceptible to injuries imo. I don't find it particularly surprising that he had some injury issues the past couple years.

Regardless, Pierce definitely looks like he has NFL talent to me; I like him a lot more than I did before I saw that video.
That's a good looking back. He has a tall build, but he still seems to run with good power and agility. Definitely one to keep an eye on.
He didn't look lanky to me at all. Thought he looked good. I'm intrigued. Tough to gauge though against the weaker competition. He sure bounced a lot of stuff outside. But he had some nice inside runs too. I see he only had three catches all year, so that's a question mark at least.
 
Top 10 QBs: Luck, Griffin, Barkley lead strong group

By Bucky Brooks NFL.com

Analyst

Published: Dec. 9, 2011 at 12:28 p.m.

Updated: Dec. 28, 2011 at 10:57 p.m.

(*Denotes underclassmen; only players three years removed from high school considered)

1. Andrew Luck*, Stanford (6-4, 235): The best quarterback prospect since Peyton Manning has a game that matches the hype. He is a pinpoint passer. His awareness, accuracy and ball placement is advanced beyond his years, and he is capable of making all of the throws from inside or outside the pocket. Although his arm strength is not in the class of Matthew Stafford or Jay Cutler, he generates enough velocity on his passes to squeeze ball into tight windows. With an exceptionally high football IQ that enables him to call the game flawlessly from the line of scrimmage, Luck is the total package at the position.



2. Robert Griffin III*, Baylor (6-2, 220): It is rare when the best athlete in college football plays quarterback, but that is certainly the case with RG3. He is a remarkable playmaker in the open field with the speed and quickness to outrun defenses on the perimeter. Although his improvisational plays routinely are highlight worthy, it has been his extraordinary play from the pocket that has scouts buzzing. He can pick apart defenses with precise passes and is surprisingly accurate for a player with unrefined fundamentals.

3. Matt Barkley*, USC (6-2, 220): There was not a hotter quarterback in college football than Barkley over the final half of the season. He shredded the Pac-12 and showed evaluators he has game, despite lacking elite arm strength and athleticism. His ability to connect the dots from the pocket makes him an ideal fit in West Coast-based systems.

4. Landry Jones*, Oklahoma (6-4, 230): Jones didn't finish the season with a bang, but he possesses the physical tools scouts covet in quarterbacks. He is a strong-armed passer capable of making all of the throws from the pocket. Although he tends to be a streaky playmaker prone to making questionable decisions, his potential and upside ultimately will win out.

5. Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M (6-4, 222): As Aaron Rodgers continues terrorizing the league with his combination of precision passing and crafty athleticism, teams are looking for signal callers who fit that mold. Tannehill is far from a polished quarterback at this point, but his dramatic improvement after only two seasons as a starter has scouts salivating over his upside and potential as a pro. With comparisons to Tony Romo being uttered in scouting circles, Tannehill will be a prized commodity leading up to draft day.

6. Nick Foles, Arizona (6-5, 240): Lost in the Wildcats' disappointing season has been the spectacular play of Foles. He has been steady as a playmaker and has excellent physical tools for the position. Although his production is inflated partially due to the wide-open nature of Arizona's offensive system, Foles' accuracy, ball placement and high football IQ make him an intriguing candidate as a potential franchise player.

7. Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State (6-4, 218): The advanced age (28) of Weeden will lead to concerns about his long-term potential, but his strong arm and gunslinger's mentality has intrigued scouts across the league. He can make all the throws from the pocket and is an all-star caliber talent when he makes good decisions with the ball. If can display better consistency during the bowl game and all-star circuit, Weeden can earn high marks in the minds of evaluators.

8. Kirk Cousins, Michigan State (6-3, 205): Teams looking for a developmental prospect with big-game experience and exceptional tools will spend time closely studying Cousins' game. As a strong-armed thrower with awareness and anticipation, he is capable of connecting the dots from the pocket with efficiency. His balanced distribution is admirable, but he occasionally locks on his primary receiver, which leads to costly turnovers. If he can show growth as a playmaker during the bowl game and all-star circuit, Cousins could cement his status as a top talent at the position.

9. E.J. Manuel*, Florida State (6-4, 245): Manuel could be the top choice on this list next season due to his extraordinary combination of size, athleticism and arm talent. He flashed glimpses of becoming a clutch playmaker during the final half of the season, and scouts are certainly paying close attention to the ongoing development of his game. With more experience and seasoning, Manuel could be the franchise player that coaches look to build around.

T-10. Russell Wilson, Wisconsin (5-11, 205): The lack of prototypical size will keep Wilson from surpassing some of his counterparts on this list, but his unflappable poise and leadership skills are enticing for coaches searching for a developmental prospect. His seamless transition from N.C State to Wisconsin showcased his adaptability and squelched concerns about his ability to direct a pro-style attack. With a big arm and underrated athleticism that allows him to thrive inside or outside of the pocket, Wilson is a wild card who could shoot up draft boards following close examination.

T-10. Kellen Moore, Boise State (5-11, 191): It is perplexing to some that Moore doesn't garner high marks on draft boards considering his winning pedigree and remarkable production, but he fails to pass the eyeball test with his diminutive stature and marginal arm strength. However, it is undeniable that he has a tremendous feel for the game and is one of the best big-game players to play college football in some time. His ability to carve up opponents with his accurate throws is mind-boggling, and scouts certainly will value his intangibles over his physical tools. While that might not be enough to shoot him up the charts, it could make him a viable developmental option for the right team.
 
Draft notebook: Tar Heels' final impression will last, and hurt too

By Rob Rang

Excerpts:

Coby Fleener most underrated skill position player?

Among my favorite football cliches is that the NFL is a "copycat" league. What works for one team is sure to be copied and attempted by several more.

With the New England Patriots, New Orleans Saints and Green Bay Packers -- three of the league's elite passing attacks -- increasingly shifting their focus towards playmaking tight ends Rob Gronkowski, Jimmy Graham and Jermichael Finley, you can expect other clubs looking for a spark in the passing game to put extra emphasis on tight ends capable of stretching the field.

Stanford senior Coby Fleener could wind up the beneficiary.

NFLDraftScout.com's top-rated senior tight end since October, the 6-6, 245 pound Fleener is quietly earning first-round buzz and may just be the country's most underrated skill position player.

Like Gronkowski, Graham and Finley, Fleener isn't a traditional in-line blocker capable of knocking defenders onto their heels in the running game. He is, however, a former wide receiver offers rare straight-line speed, agility and body control in a huge (and still growing) frame.

Fleener "only" caught 32 passes for The Cardinal but led the team in both touchdown catches (10) and yards per reception (20.2). Despite only starting four games this season at Stanford, Fleener was recognized by Pac-12 coaches as an all-conference pick and earned third team All-American honors by the Associated Press.
One Heisman candidate who may be making the jump to the NFL early, however, is Wisconsin running back Montee Ball. Ball has already insinuated that if he received a first- or second-round grade from the NFL Advisory Committee that he might leave the Badgers. A quick poll of scouts had each assigning a second grade to the 5-9, 212 pound back.
 
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Here's an 8 minute clip of Bernard Pierce's junior season highlights.

Pierce looks to be quite the interesting prospect from a small conference. He pretty well looks like a man amongst boys beating up on MAC competition, which is what you like to see. Listed at ~6'0 ~220lbs, Pierce's lateral agility and change of direction skills are phenomenal for a back that size; only problem is his speed doesn't look great. He'll probably have adequate speed at best, I'm gonna guess he'll run somewhere in the 4.5s at the combine. Another thing I don't like is he's quite long legged, making him more susceptible to injuries imo. I don't find it particularly surprising that he had some injury issues the past couple years.

Regardless, Pierce definitely looks like he has NFL talent to me; I like him a lot more than I did before I saw that video.
That's a good looking back. He has a tall build, but he still seems to run with good power and agility. Definitely one to keep an eye on.
I view Pierce as another Shonn Greene type of RB. I don't think he'll be involved in the passing game much but I think he definitely has the chance to be a 20 carry workhorse in the NFL. Probably won't post any eye popping stats from a fantasy standpoint but could be a solid depth player in a RB2/RB3 role. I like him, he should be a very good goal line back.
 
Big Board: Barkley's move jolts prospect rankings

By Rob Rang

Matt Barkley's decision to return to Southern Cal wasn't the first to have a major impact on the 2012 NFL draft, but it might have the deepest reverberations.

Junior offensive tackle Matt Kalil opted to turn pro a week before Barkley announced he'd be spending the '12 season trying to help coach Lane Kiffin win the national championship, not trying to win a starting job as an NFL quarterback.

The decision was surprising in this sense: Most NFL evaluators view Barkley as a top-10 draft pick.

It wasn't surprising in that many before him -- Peyton Manning, Matt Leinart, Eli Manning, Sam Bradford, Jake Locker and Andrew Luck, the No. 1 player on my board -- have made the exact same choice.

Creating a "Big Board" at this point in the year isn't necessarily designed to predict who will be the first 32 picks of the 2012 NFL Draft. Obviously, with a full season, all-star games, workouts and interviews each playing critical roles in determining a player's final grade, much will change between now and April.



(* -- prospect is an underclassman)

1. Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford*: Luck characterized himself as "absolutely" ready to play at the NFL level. I share his confidence. Forget the questions about Luck's arm strength. While perhaps lacking a Matthew Stafford or Cam Newton rifle for an arm, Luck's anticipation and accuracy are as impressive as any quarterback I've ever scouted in 12 years in this business. Whether to the Colts or any other team, Luck will be the first pick of the 2012 draft.

2. Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama*: Richardson moves up a spot with Matt Barkley bowing out of the 2012 draft. It is difficult to grade any running back this high as the value of the position simply doesn't warrant it. Richardson, however, may just be the most physically gifted player in the country.

3. Matt Kalil, OT, Southern Cal*: Kalil isn't as fundamentally sound and consistent as scouts would like, but he possesses such great size, athleticism and balance that a top five pick (and future Pro Bowls) would appear likely in his future.

4. Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU*: I argued that LSU cornerback Patrick Peterson was the top player in the 2011 draft. Shockingly, Claiborne has been even better this season than Peterson, the fifth pick of the draft last year. As such, it was no surprise when he took home the Thorpe Award as the nation's top defensive back, even over his playmaking teammate Tyrann Mathieu, a Heisman finalist.

5. Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor*: Griffin's ascension up the board continues -- and is expected to see an added boost with Barkley out of the mix -- as the Baylor quarterback showed in accepting the Heisman Trophy yet another quality that will endear him to general managers -- the charisma needed to be the face of an NFL franchise. This fact, along with Griffin's remarkable combination of athleticism and accuracy on the deep ball could make him a top-five pick.

6. Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State*: Blackmon ultimately won't get drafted this high due to concerns about his straight-line speed, but he's virtually unstoppable at this level and will prove to be a No. 1 option in the NFL, as well.

7. David DeCastro , OG, Stanford*: In terms of consistent dominance, there hasn't been an offensive or defensive lineman I've graded higher thus far this season than DeCastro. Only the fact that he plays guard may keep him out of the top half of the first round.

8. Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame: Big, physical and (like Blackmon) faster on the field than he'll ever time off it, Floyd has the makings of a top-10 pick as long as he can convince teams he has the maturity to handle the pressure on and off the field that comes with such lofty expectations.

9. Devon Still, DT, Penn State: Still's talent has always been obvious, but until this season it has lied under the surface. Just as Phil Taylor rode a dominant senior campaign into a first-round pick, however, don't be surprised if Still is able to do the same, especially if he can follow Taylor's lead and enjoy a stellar week at the Senior Bowl.

10. Riley Reiff , OT, Iowa*: Possessing NFL size (6-6, 300 pounds), sound technique and better athleticism than his former teammate, Bryan Bulaga, Reiff is viewed by scouts as a pro-ready tackle capable of helping immediately at either left or right tackle.

11. Dre Kirkpatrick , CB, Alabama*: Kirkpatrick's combination of size, speed and physicality is rare for the cornerback position. He remains a bit raw in his technique, which is why Claiborne has leapt him on many draft boards.



12. Jonathan Martin , OT, Stanford*: Martin's size (6-6, 305) and athleticism is very intriguing, especially in a zone-blocking offense. Scouts wonder, however, if he has the physicality to be successful in every scheme. What they don't have to wonder about is Martin's light feet and balance in pass protection. Some scouts grade Martin higher than either Kalil or Reiff.

13. Luke Kuechly, ILB, Boston College*: More decorated than a wedding cake, Kuechly was honored with the Lombardi, Nagurski and Lott Impact Trophy awards after leading the country in tackles for the second consecutive season. Manti Te'o's decision to return for his senior season at Notre Dame only increases Kuechly's stock that much more. Kuechly isn't likely to be drafted this highly, but he's viewed by most scouts among the safest talents in the country -- despite the fact he's just a junior.

14. Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina: When playing with passion, the 6-6, 285 pound Coples is arguably the elite defensive prospect in the country. Coples, who is lining up at defensive end this season after starring last year inside, hasn't been playing with the same intensity and is slipping. His raw talent is undeniable and should generate top-10 consideration.

15. Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor: Griffin gets all of the hype, but the playmaking Wright is a legitimate first-round talent, himself. At 5-10, 190 pounds, Wright is significantly smaller than many of the other top receivers in this draft, but he brings very good speed and open field running skills. Some scouts compare Wright to Carolina Panthers' star Steve Smith for their similar build and explosiveness.

16. Courtney Upshaw, ILB, Alabama: Among the most versatile defenders in the country, Upshaw's burst and strong, active hands make him a natural pass rusher capable of seeing the field early whether as a 4-3 defensive end or as either an inside or outside linebacker in the 3-4 scheme.

17. Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska: Finally back to health, Dennard is showing signs of being the physical shutdown press corner that led some scouts to grade him this season as the country's elite senior prospect at any position.

18. Dontari Poe, DT/NG, Memphis*: At 6-5, 350 pounds, Poe certainly has the bulk scouts are looking for. What is most impressive about him, however, is that at this size Poe is also light on his feet and plays with a high-revving motor. Poe is only a junior and is clearly raw, but in a relatively weak defensive tackle class, he could fly up the board.

19. Cordy Glenn, OG, Georgia: LSU out-classed Georgia in the SEC Championship Game, but don't blame Glenn. Since struggling early in his first season at left tackle, Glenn has become increasingly comfortable and it showed in a strong effort against the top-ranked Tigers and their NFL-caliber defensive line.

20. Mark Barron, SS, Alabama: A free safety for the Crimson Tide, I have some reservations about Barron being able to hold up at this position against top-notch NFL passing games. That said, his reliable open-field tackling and instincts make him the clear No. 1 safety prospect.

21. Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama: As expected, Jenkins has been a man among boys at this level after starring at Florida. Scouts will investigate Jenkins' off-field antics closely, but won't lose sight of the fact that he's the most talented senior cover corner in the country and has returned four punts for touchdowns this season, earning All-American honors.

22. Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State*: Cox may be relatively unknown outside of the SEC, but in winning the conference defensive lineman of the week four times this season, his opponents certainly know him. Scouts do too, as the 6-4, 295-pounder has the size, strength and athleticism to play in either a three or four man front.

23. Nick Perry, DE, Southern Cal*: Upside is also the key word with Perry. The 6-3, 260-pound pass rusher led the Pac-12 in sacks and seems to be just scratching the surface of his potential. With no bowl game for USC and Perry having already committed to the draft, he's getting a jump start in preparing for workouts. Based on the explosiveness evident on tape, that could lead to some eye-popping numbers.

24. Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson*: At 6-4, 255 pounds, Allen possesses the blend of size, strength and athleticism that every team is looking for in a multi-dimensional tight end. The 2011 Mackey Award winner isn't a speed threat down the seam, but is a solid in-line blocker and possesses great hands and body control as a mid-range target.

25. Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State*: Worthy, a junior, continues to struggle with consistency, but defensive tackles with his combination of size, strength and quickness don't last long on draft day.

26. Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers*: At 6-2, 215 pounds Sanu possesses rare size and physicality to play outside in the NFL. He lacks elite speed, however, which limits his draft stock despite the fact he's been as reliable as any receiver in the country this season.

27. Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford: At 6-6, 245 pounds and possessing better speed and hands than some of Stanford's wide receivers, Fleener has become Andrew Luck's favorite target.

28. Zach Brown, OLB, North Carolina: Brown's elite athleticism is going to draw raves at the combine, but moderate instincts and physicality are potential red-flags that shouldn't be ignored.

29. Andre Branch, DE, Clemson: At 6-4, 260 pounds Branch has the size and athleticism to rush the passer standing up or with his hand on the ground. His teammate, defensive tackle Brandon Thompson, entered the season with more acclaim, but it has been Branch who has taken his game to another level in 2011. In a weak year for pass rushers, Branch's explosiveness and versatility could result in a first round pick.

30. Melvin Ingram, DE/OLB, South Carolina: Ingram may lack the height scouts prefer in defensive ends for the 4-3 alignment, but the 6-2, 270-pounder plays with leverage and has terrific quickness. He's so quick, in fact, that teams searching for 3-4 rush linebackers are intrigued by Ingram, as well.

31. Lamar Miller, RB, Miami*: Miller only has one season as the Hurricanes' lead back, but in rushing for 1,272 yards -- the third most in school history -- the redshirt sophomore had already etched his name among the elite backs hailing from The U. At 5-11, 212 pounds, Miller has the size to be a feature back in the NFL and may be the fastest back in the country.

32. Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M: In terms of physical talent, there is no denying that Tannehill has the tools to warrant a first round pick. The 6-4, 225 pound quarterback has a strong arm, good touch and obviously rare athleticism for the position considering that he earned Honorable Mention All-Big 12 honors as a receiver in 2009.
 
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Draft notebook: Don't sleep on 'other' quarterbacks in deep '12 draft class

By Rob Rang

Excerpt:

Juniors Andrew Luck, Matt Barkley and Robert Griffin III dominated the college football headlines in 2011, and many scouts feel this year's senior class of quarterbacks isn't getting the attention it deserves.

Texas A&M's Ryan Tannehill has all of the physical traits scouts are looking for and has maintained his standing as the top-rated senior quarterback in the 2012 draft. Tannehill struggled late in games this season, but the fact that 2011 was just his second year as the starting quarterback makes scouts optimistic that his poise will develop with time. In today's pass-happy NFL, quarterbacks with the 6-4, 225-pound Tannehill's tools rarely slip out of the top 32 based on upside and projections of what he can become with time to develop.

Michigan State's Kirk Cousins, Arizona's Nick Foles and San Diego State's Ryan Lindley aren't currently viewed as likely first-round candidates. However, scouts believe it is only a matter of time before each generates second-round buzz, if not fringe first-round chatter as TCU's Andy Dalton did as winter turned to spring in 2011.

Of the three seniors in the 2012 second-tier, Cousins is the most polished. The 49-7 whipping Michigan State took a year ago at the hands of Alabama in the Capital One Bowl won't soon be forgotten by scouts. Cousins has improved his accuracy and poise in the pocket this season and has the leadership skills coaches crave at the position. One highly ranked scout characterized Cousins as "this year's Dalton" and a player who will steadily climb boards as teams go through the interview process.

The 6-5, 240-pound Foles clearly has the build and production in Arizona's spread offense to pique the interest of scouts. Foles lacks the foot speed preferred in most West Coast Offense-based schemes, but teams in search of a classic drop-back passer see a lot of similarities in Foles to Matt Schaub of the Houston Texans.

Perhaps the most intriguing of the group, Lindley, unlike most quarterbacks coming from a spread offense, has legitimate NFL arm strength. Lindley has been able to rely on his big arm throughout his collegiate career, but remains quite the project from a technical standpoint. One scout characterized Lindley as having "some Brett Favre to him" in that Lindley's answer to covered receivers has at times been to simply throw passes harder. Given a year or two to polish his footwork, a team could have something with the San Diego State star.

Six quarterbacks among the first 64 picks sound unrealistic? Remember, just last April six passers -- Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, Andy Dalton and Colin Kaepernick -- went in the top 36.
Extra Points

[*]Each year the NFL Advisory Committee is slammed with requests from underclassmen seeking to gauge their grade from pro scouts. Most of the elite underclassmen request a grade. Whether they come out or go back, no one was surprised to learn that Barkley, Griffin, Alabama running back Trent Richardson and LSU cornerback Morris Claiborne asked for feedback. There are some surprising names also requesting grades, sources tell me, including San Diego State running back Ronnie Hillman and Oregon safety John Boyett.

[*]Another junior rumored to be exploring the jump to the NFL is Syracuse safety Phillip Thomas, who was suspended November 18 for an undisclosed violation of team rules. Despite playing two games less than his teammates, Thomas led the Orange in tackles (83) and the entire Big East conference in interceptions (six).

[*]Notably absent in the quarterback conversation for many scouts any more is Oklahoma junior Landry Jones. That's because scouts expect Jones to return for his senior season. "He's an awfully talented guy," one scout said, "but he's had a disappointing year. He could return and with a big senior season jump right back up into that top 10 mix."
 
Draft notebook: Tar Heels' final impression will last, and hurt too

By Rob Rang

Excerpts:

Coby Fleener most underrated skill position player?

Among my favorite football cliches is that the NFL is a "copycat" league. What works for one team is sure to be copied and attempted by several more.

With the New England Patriots, New Orleans Saints and Green Bay Packers -- three of the league's elite passing attacks -- increasingly shifting their focus towards playmaking tight ends Rob Gronkowski, Jimmy Graham and Jermichael Finley, you can expect other clubs looking for a spark in the passing game to put extra emphasis on tight ends capable of stretching the field.

Stanford senior Coby Fleener could wind up the beneficiary.

NFLDraftScout.com's top-rated senior tight end since October, the 6-6, 245 pound Fleener is quietly earning first-round buzz and may just be the country's most underrated skill position player.

Like Gronkowski, Graham and Finley, Fleener isn't a traditional in-line blocker capable of knocking defenders onto their heels in the running game. He is, however, a former wide receiver offers rare straight-line speed, agility and body control in a huge (and still growing) frame.

Fleener "only" caught 32 passes for The Cardinal but led the team in both touchdown catches (10) and yards per reception (20.2). Despite only starting four games this season at Stanford, Fleener was recognized by Pac-12 coaches as an all-conference pick and earned third team All-American honors by the Associated Press.
One Heisman candidate who may be making the jump to the NFL early, however, is Wisconsin running back Montee Ball. Ball has already insinuated that if he received a first- or second-round grade from the NFL Advisory Committee that he might leave the Badgers. A quick poll of scouts had each assigning a second grade to the 5-9, 212 pound back.
I feel like I'm in elementary school looking at one of those "what's out of place pictures."
 
Prospects to watch in college's bowl games: Week 1

Tony Pauline

Posted: Friday December 16, 2011 11:40AM ; Updated: Friday December 16, 2011 12:08PM

Offensive Skill Position Excerpts:

Projected NFL draft round listed at the end of the player summary

(*denotes underclassmen)

Bernard Pierce, RB (No. 30)* -- The junior running back has been the workhorse ball carrier at Temple the past three seasons. Pierce has a terrific combination of vision, instincts and strength. He lacks classic foot speed, but has all the tools necessary to be a featured runner in the NFL. 2nd Round

Robert Turbin, RB (No. 6)* -- Turbin sat on the sidelines with injury last season, but returned with a vengeance this year. The big-bodied running back is a powerful ball carrier who over-powers opponents and is rarely tackled by a single defender. Scouts project Turbin as a top-50 pick and feel he possesses the physical skills necessary to be a featured runner at the next level. 2nd Round

LaVon Brazill, WR-RS (No. 7) -- Brazill returned to the field after sitting on the sidelines in 2010 with injury and posted career numbers as a senior. He's a sure-handed wideout with the ability to pick up a lot of yardage running after the catch. Brazill has also been a game-impacting return specialist during his Bobcat career. He'll be a nice addition as a fifth receiver/return specialist for any NFL team. 6th/7th Round



Ladarius Green, TE-WR (No. 89) -- Green is a massive tight end who is projected to play wide receiver by a number of NFL scouts. He's a sure-handed pass catcher who offers the signal caller an awesome target. Green needs to add bulk to his frame, but should be very good in the NFL. 6th Round

Javone Lawson, WR (No. 4)* -- The junior quickly returned to form after missing half of the 2010 campaign with injury. He's a well-sized wideout who is also a downfield threat. Lawson is averaging 16.6 yards on 54 receptions, including six scores. 7th Round

Ryan Lindley, QB (No. 14) -- Lindley comes off a disappointing senior campaign, as he took a step back in almost every passing category this year compared to his junior season. Despite this, he still possesses the physical skills and mental make-up for starting duty in the NFL. 5th Round

T.Y. Hilton, WR (No. 4) -- Hilton is one of the best kept secrets in college football, and a triple threat skill player for the NFL. He's the dominant "go-to" receiver on the Panthers offense and cannot be stopped. Hilton is also a game-breaking return specialist who quickly alters the momentum of games. If he clears medical hurdles at the combine, Hilton will be drafted much earlier than many predict. 3rd/4th Round

Josh Boyce, WR (No. 82)* -- Boyce, a red-shirt sophomore, had a knockout campaign after moving into the starting lineup, and has scouts excited about his future. He's a big-play receiver with a nose for the end zone and a productive prospect who has potential as a slot wideout in the NFL. 4th/5th Round

Quinton Patton, WR (No. 4) -- Patton showed awesome pass-catching skills during his first year with the Bulldogs. The junior college transfer is Louisiana Tech's go-to receiver with big-play skills. He needs to round out his game, but Patton has made his mark on NFL scouts this season. 5th/6th Round

Lennon Creer, RB (No. 5) -- Creer is an instinctive ball carrier with terrific vision and the ability to produce as a receiver out of the backfield. He's coming off a slightly disappointing senior campaign, but projects as a situational back. 7th Round

Doug Martin, RB (No. 22) -- Martin has been a great asset for one of the nation's most prolific offenses, and has improved his game every season. He's a creative ball carrier who can turn the corner and runs hard on the inside. Martin is also a terrific receiver out of the backfield. Many question whether he has the makings of a true feature runner, but no one doubts Martin will produce in the right system. 2nd Round

Brock Osweiler, QB (No. 17)* -- The 6-foot-8 junior stepped into the starting lineup this season and literally carried the Sun Devils offense on his large shoulders. Osweiler is a physically gifted passer with the ability to make all the throws. His game needs a lot of polish, but the arrow is pointing north. 2nd Round
 
Draft notebook: Tar Heels' final impression will last, and hurt too

By Rob Rang

Excerpts:

Coby Fleener most underrated skill position player?

Among my favorite football cliches is that the NFL is a "copycat" league. What works for one team is sure to be copied and attempted by several more.

With the New England Patriots, New Orleans Saints and Green Bay Packers -- three of the league's elite passing attacks -- increasingly shifting their focus towards playmaking tight ends Rob Gronkowski, Jimmy Graham and Jermichael Finley, you can expect other clubs looking for a spark in the passing game to put extra emphasis on tight ends capable of stretching the field.

Stanford senior Coby Fleener could wind up the beneficiary.

NFLDraftScout.com's top-rated senior tight end since October, the 6-6, 245 pound Fleener is quietly earning first-round buzz and may just be the country's most underrated skill position player.

Like Gronkowski, Graham and Finley, Fleener isn't a traditional in-line blocker capable of knocking defenders onto their heels in the running game. He is, however, a former wide receiver offers rare straight-line speed, agility and body control in a huge (and still growing) frame.

Fleener "only" caught 32 passes for The Cardinal but led the team in both touchdown catches (10) and yards per reception (20.2). Despite only starting four games this season at Stanford, Fleener was recognized by Pac-12 coaches as an all-conference pick and earned third team All-American honors by the Associated Press.
One Heisman candidate who may be making the jump to the NFL early, however, is Wisconsin running back Montee Ball. Ball has already insinuated that if he received a first- or second-round grade from the NFL Advisory Committee that he might leave the Badgers. A quick poll of scouts had each assigning a second grade to the 5-9, 212 pound back.
Fleener is my TE1 of this rookie class.
 
'EBF said:
'Time Kibitzer said:
Here's an 8 minute clip of Bernard Pierce's junior season highlights.

Pierce looks to be quite the interesting prospect from a small conference. He pretty well looks like a man amongst boys beating up on MAC competition, which is what you like to see. Listed at ~6'0 ~220lbs, Pierce's lateral agility and change of direction skills are phenomenal for a back that size; only problem is his speed doesn't look great. He'll probably have adequate speed at best, I'm gonna guess he'll run somewhere in the 4.5s at the combine. Another thing I don't like is he's quite long legged, making him more susceptible to injuries imo. I don't find it particularly surprising that he had some injury issues the past couple years.

Regardless, Pierce definitely looks like he has NFL talent to me; I like him a lot more than I did before I saw that video.
That's a good looking back. He has a tall build, but he still seems to run with good power and agility. Definitely one to keep an eye on.
Meh, looks pretty slow to accelerate and barely makes the corner every time he bounces it to the outside. I doubt that would translate well in the NFL with the speed of defenses there.
 
Prospects to watch in college's bowl games: Week 2

Tony Pauline

Posted: Saturday December 24, 2011 10:22PM ; Updated: Saturday December 24, 2011 10:23PM

Offensive Skill Position Excerpts:

Projected NFL draft round listed at the end of the player summary

(*denotes underclassmen)



Michael Egnew, TE (No. 82) -- Scouts love the athleticism Egnew possesses, and compare his physical skills to many of the top deep threats at the tight end position from recent drafts. He's a dependable pass-catcher who also gives effort blocking. Egnew projects as a move tight end in the NFL and has starting potential. 2nd Round

T.J. Moe, WR (No. 28)* -- Moe is a feisty and aggressive receiver who battles for each reception and every yard after the catch. The ability to separate from defenders and return punts makes Moe a potential third receiver at the next level. 4th Round

Jordan White, WR (No. 83) -- White is a sturdy, reliable wideout and Western Michigan's best receiving prospect since Greg Jennings. He constantly creeps into the soft spot of the defense to offer his quarterback an unimpeded target. White also physically defeats defenders to come away with the football. He lacks the foot speed to be a vertical threat yet has the makings of a third/fourth receiver at the next level. 4th/5th Round

Eric Page, WR (No. 12)* -- Page is a dynamic playmaker who strikes fear into opponents. He's a complete receiver with a nose for the end zone, reliably making the reception in underneath coverage or beating opponents down the sidelines. Page is also a threat to break games open returning punts or kicks. The junior will be a terrific third receiver/return specialist in the NFL. 3rd Round

Marvin Jones, WR (No. 1) -- Jones lacks classic size and speed for an NFL wideout, but is a reliable pass-catcher who always comes through in the clutch. He's a tough receiver and fights to make the reception in a crowd, but also reads the defense and finds the soft spot on the field. Jones has the tools to be a reliable fourth wideout at the next level. 4th/5th Round

Michael Floyd, WR (No. 3) -- Floyd returned to Notre Dame for his senior season after experiencing several off-field issues, and it turned out to be the right choice. He's a tall, strong receiver who plays big. Floyd wins out in battles, catching the ball in a crowd, and is very effective blocking downfield. He possesses the size and substance to be a No. 1 wideout in the NFL. 1st Round

Chris Polk, RB (No. 1) -- The junior is a strong-bodied grinder who pounds opponents on the inside. Polk also displays a terrific burst of speed in his game and is rarely brought down by the first defender. He needs to polish his game, but has starting potential at the next level. 3rd Round

Robert Griffin III, QB (No. 10)* -- The 2012 Heisman Trophy winner has been skyrocketing up draft boards with good reason. Griffin is a dynamite athlete who's grown into a complete quarterback. His mental wherewithal, intangibles and leadership skills are on par with his physical ability. Griffin has shown steady progress the past four seasons and he'll be a productive starter once he enters the NFL. 1st Round

Kendall Wright, WR (No. 1) -- Griffin's favorite target, Wright is another Baylor prospect who's elevated his draft stock. He's a quick receiver with a nose for the end zone and a penchant for the big play. Wright has the tools necessary to line up as a second or third receiver for an NFL team. 3rd Round

Mohamed Sanu, WR (No. 6)* -- Sanu has been the go-to receiver for Rutgers the past two seasons. He's a big-bodied possession wideout who makes the difficult catch over the middle. Sanu also offers potential as a red-zone threat. He's expected to enter the draft, and workouts prior to April will be critical. 2nd Round

Chris Givens, WR (No. 2)* -- The ultra-productive junior was the go-to receiver for Wake Forest the past two seasons and has shown a nose for the end zone since his freshman campaign. Givens has totaled 21 touchdown receptions the past three seasons and has lent a hand as a return specialist. He has the size and style to produce as a third receiver/special teams player at the next level. 3rd Round

Landry Jones, QB (No. 12)* -- Opinions on Jones' next-level potential are all over the map. His performance during the Sooners' final three games have many in the scouting community believing Jones is better off staying in college one more season. He flashes great skill on occasion, but his game lacks overall consistency and polish. 2nd Round

Marvin McNutt, WR (No. 7) -- The big senior wideout has displayed steady improvement in his game the past three seasons. He's a possession receiver who makes the difficult catch over the middle of the field or beats down defenders to come away with the ball. McNutt must improve the details of his position, but should quickly produce for the team that selects him. 3rd Round



Jeff Fuller, WR (No. 8) -- Fuller is a large physical specimen who beats down defenders and consistently comes away with the difficult reception. He's a prototypical possession receiver who could develop into a second wideout on an NFL roster. Fuller comes off a disappointing senior season, and pre-draft workouts will be critical for him. 2nd Round

Ryan Tannehill, QB (No. 17) -- Scouts love Tannehill, and the senior signal caller is quickly rising up draft boards. He's an athletic quarterback with the ability to beat opponents with his arm and legs. Tannehill needs to hone his throwing mechanics and improve his accuracy, but he has built a lot of momentum for himself in the scouting community. 2nd Round

Isaiah Pead, RB (No. 23) -- Pead has been a very productive ball-carrier for the Bearcats, totaling just under 3,000 yards rushing the past three seasons. He's a tough interior runner who does not go down without a fight. Pead is also effective catching the ball out of the backfield. He'll do well as a rotational back in the NFL. 3rd Round

Nelson Rosario, WR (No. 83) -- Rosario put up career numbers this season and is reaping the rewards in scouting circles. He's a big-bodied possession receiver best running underneath routes. He'll compete for the fifth receiver spot on an NFL roster. 7th Round

Jonathan Franklin, RB (No. 23)* -- Franklin is an elusive ball-carrier who consistently picks up big chunks of yardage from the line of scrimmage. He makes defender miss and displays the ability to create yardage when seemingly nothing is available. Franklin lacks starting size for an NFL ball-carrier, but should be a productive situational back at the next level. 7th Round
 
NFL prospects for Boise State's Kellen Moore; more Mailbag

Stewart Mandel

Posted: Wednesday December 28, 2011 11:37AM ; Updated: Wednesday December 28, 2011 1:36PM

Excerpt:

Ten bowl games have been played since the last Mailbag, but there's only one I regret not commenting on until now: The Boise State-Arizona State Las Vegas Bowl.

On the surface, it was nothing special. The Broncos rolled. Dennis Erickson oversaw one last personal-foul fest. Yet for anyone who's followed college football these past four years, the game definitely felt like a piece of history. It marked the end of the Kellen Moore era at Boise State, during which time the southpaw won 50 games, lost just three and helped redefine a once disregarded program.

But just as we settled in to enjoy Moore's swan song, an ESPN PR person tweeted that Mel Kiper and Todd McShay -- our nation's most trusted determiners of a player's NFL draft stock, even though no actual NFL teams employ them -- "say Moore should be a sixth- or seventh-round draft pick."

Of course they do.

With all the experts analyzing the potential of college quarterbacks in the NFL, I have never heard a single mention of Kellen Moore. Do you think that there is no chance of him making it at the next level?

-- Peter Ashley, Indio, Calif.

As we know well by now, if a quarterback doesn't fit an exact prototype (6-foot-3 or taller, classically trained drop-back passer, rocket arm), NFL types are instinctively trained to dismiss him. Remember, these are the same people who convinced themselves JaMarcus Russell was the second coming of John Elway and Blaine Gabbert was a "safer" pick last year than Cam Newton.

While I wouldn't expect the sub-6-foot Moore to be a first-round pick, I don't understand the massive discrepancy between Moore and the similarly sized Drew Brees, the first pick of the 2001 second round. Both are insanely accurate. Brees played in a tougher college conference, but his 132.5 efficiency rating was pedestrian in hindsight compared to Moore's 169.0. Furthermore, Moore plays under center more often than Brees did in Joe Tiller's Purdue offense, and Moore throws downfield far more often. Neither played in an NFL system, but Boise's is closer to a traditional run-based attack than Tiller's "Basketball on Grass." And yes, I've heard the knocks about Moore's arm strength, but that's always such a nebulous thing to assess. Ask Georgia's coaches if they think Moore can zip a tight pass between defenders.

I'm not saying Moore is "the next Drew Brees," I just don't get the gaping disparity. It matters, too. If Moore gets drafted that low, the team that takes him won't treat him as a priority, lessening his chance to even get a start, much less develop into a star. Of course, the process hasn't even begun. Teams will get a close-up look at Moore at the Senior Bowl and in workouts. They'll interview him at the combine. As we've seen with Tim Tebow, it only takes one team seeing what the rest of us have been watching the past four years to decide to make an investment. As best as I can tell, the only inarguable knock against Moore is that he's not tall. Why that trumps all the other skills one needs to play the position is beyond me. But hey, that's why NFL GMs get paid big bucks to rank sculpted but unimpressive college quarterbacks like Gabbert and Jake Locker ahead of four-year standouts like Moore and Andy Dalton.
 
James Starks is a good comp to Bernard Pierce, who I like more than Turbin. Turbin's looked very pedestrian (on the field) from what I've seen of him.

 
Washington and Baylor putting on a show tonight. RG3 looks sick and Chris Polk is impressing as well. Great game!

 
any upside to this Ganaway?Seems like a quality kid.

Has squatted 600 pounds and benched 395 pounds... Two-time Dean's List and three-time Big 12 Commissioner's Honor Roll selection... Graduated from Baylor in December 2010 with degree in general studies... Traveled to Kenya for mission trip with Baylor student-athletes in May 2010.
http://www.baylorbears.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ganaway_terrance00.html
The thing that I have heard is that he may have a football work ethic issue (more he does not care about it than naturally lazy person). Also understand some think that he is going to run under 4.5 at 235-240 and could be a guy who puts on a show at his combines/pro days. He had really big holes to run through tonight, and once he broke clear on his two long runs, Ganaway did look like he had another gear similair to Polk on longer run.
 
any upside to this Ganaway?Seems like a quality kid.

Has squatted 600 pounds and benched 395 pounds... Two-time Dean's List and three-time Big 12 Commissioner's Honor Roll selection... Graduated from Baylor in December 2010 with degree in general studies... Traveled to Kenya for mission trip with Baylor student-athletes in May 2010.
http://www.baylorbears.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ganaway_terrance00.html
I bet that general studies degree was grueling. What do you learn with that? How to count on your fingers and toes?
 
any upside to this Ganaway?Seems like a quality kid.

Has squatted 600 pounds and benched 395 pounds... Two-time Dean's List and three-time Big 12 Commissioner's Honor Roll selection... Graduated from Baylor in December 2010 with degree in general studies... Traveled to Kenya for mission trip with Baylor student-athletes in May 2010.
http://www.baylorbears.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ganaway_terrance00.html
The thing that I have heard is that he may have a football work ethic issue (more he does not care about it than naturally lazy person). Also understand some think that he is going to run under 4.5 at 235-240 and could be a guy who puts on a show at his combines/pro days. He had really big holes to run through tonight, and once he broke clear on his two long runs, Ganaway did look like he had another gear similair to Polk on longer run.
In a class void of day 3 downhill bruisers he will find a home
 
any upside to this Ganaway?Seems like a quality kid.

Has squatted 600 pounds and benched 395 pounds... Two-time Dean's List and three-time Big 12 Commissioner's Honor Roll selection... Graduated from Baylor in December 2010 with degree in general studies... Traveled to Kenya for mission trip with Baylor student-athletes in May 2010.
http://www.baylorbears.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ganaway_terrance00.html
The thing that I have heard is that he may have a football work ethic issue (more he does not care about it than naturally lazy person). Also understand some think that he is going to run under 4.5 at 235-240 and could be a guy who puts on a show at his combines/pro days. He had really big holes to run through tonight, and once he broke clear on his two long runs, Ganaway did look like he had another gear similair to Polk on longer run.
In a class void of day 3 downhill bruisers he will find a home
Another bruiser to check out, Jonas Gray. Think Shonn Green with more wiggle and top end.http://youtu.be/58GhK358UUQhttp://youtu.be/mPwPz7JVuCE
 
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A guy at the bar was talking up SR RB Vick Ballard from Miss St as a guy that could be an every down back at the next level. Any thoughts on this? I don't know anything about him.

 
A guy at the bar was talking up SR RB Vick Ballard from Miss St as a guy that could be an every down back at the next level. Any thoughts on this? I don't know anything about him.
Only seen him play live once. He is a hard runner, but no big play ability that I've seen. He had a great game against WF.
 
A guy at the bar was talking up SR RB Vick Ballard from Miss St as a guy that could be an every down back at the next level. Any thoughts on this? I don't know anything about him.
Him, Pierce, and Gannaway are the thumpers in this class. I much prefer Pierce and Gannaway. I think they both have better vision and while neither will ever be considered elusive relative to Ballard they are.In the end, not a bad 6th round 3rd stringer type you can call on in a pinch and expect something but that's about it.

 
I don't think Vick Ballard is really anything special. He'll be a mid-round selection and serve as training camp fodder and might find a spot on somebody's practice roster, but I don't think he's going to be having a major role in the NFL. Gannaway might serve as a short yardage specialist. Pierce is the guy who I think is a future starter.

 
Luck, Blackmon headline prospect heavy Monday bowls

Tony Pauline

Posted: Monday January 2, 2012 9:01AM ; Updated: Monday January 2, 2012 9:35AM

Excerpts on the offensive skill positions (projected NFL draft round at the end of each player summary):

(*denotes underclassmen)

Case Keenum, QB (No. 7) -- The record-setting NCAA signal-caller is considered just an average NFL prospect by scouts, despite his eye-popping stats. Keenum lacks the physical skills to be an early pick in the draft, but his approach to the game and mental intangibles are a good fit for a west coast offense. 6th Round

Patrick Edwards, WR (No. 83) -- Edwards has been one of the prime beneficiaries of the Cougars air attack. He's an ultra-productive wideout who will be a good fit as a slot receiver and punt returner at the next level. 6th/7th Round

B.J. Cunningham, WR (No. 3) -- Cunningham was one of the most consistent receivers in the Big Ten this season, constantly coming up big during important moments of games. He's a tall, sure-handed wideout who can be a lethal end zone target. Cunningham lacks the speed to stretch the field, but has the size and skill to develop into a third receiver at the NFL level. 3rd/4th Round

Kirk Cousins, QB (No. 8) -- The senior signal-caller possesses the physical skills necessary to compete for a starting job in the NFL. He's an accurate passer with a live arm, but Cousins' decision-making and untimely interceptions are worrisome. 5th Round

Orson Charles, TE (No. 9)* -- Georgia has sent a fair number of productive tight ends into the NFL, and Orson ranks with the best of them. He's a terrific athlete and a natural pass-catcher who creates mismatches in the opponent's secondary. He lacks classic measurables for the position, but will make some offensive coordinator happy in the role of move tight end. 3rd Round

Alshon Jeffery, WR (No. 1)* -- The junior is a big, dominant receiver who seems to make highlight-reel plays every weekend. He offers the quarterback an enticing target and beats down opponents to come away with the football. Scouts are concerned Jeffery may be a little too big, tipping the scales in excess of 230 pounds, and does not possess the quickness necessary to be effective in the NFL. The junior is expected to opt for the draft and his workouts in the lead-up to April will be critical. 1st Round

DeVier Posey, WR (No. 8) -- Posey missed most of the 2011 campaign as a result of his part in Tattoogate. Upon his return he flashed the athleticism and big-play skills that have NFL scouts intrigued. Posey has major potential, but an undeveloped game which was stunted by his time on the sidelines this season. He possesses the skills to be a productive starter if brought along slowly by the team that selects him in the draft. 3rd Round

Chris Rainey, RB-RS (No. 1) -- Rainey is the consummate all-purpose player and a multi-threat ball-handler. He led Florida in rushing, receiving and punt returns last season. Rainey is small (5-8, 178 pounds) but fast, elusive and very quick. He'll do well at the next level as a third down running back, slot receiver and return specialist. 4th Round

Jeff Demps, RB (No. 28) -- Demps is another versatile skill player who has been effective carrying the ball or catching it for the Gators. He's a speedster who can score any time the ball is in his hands. Demps projects as a third-down back at the next level. 5th Round

LaMichael James, RB-RS (No. 21)* -- James has been incredibly productive for the Ducks as a ball-carrier, pass-catcher and return specialist the past three years. The junior has rushed in excess of 1,500 yards every season since his freshman campaign, averaged more than 10 yards per reception during that time and often altered the momentum of games returning punts. He has Reggie Bush-type skills and will be a solid situational skill player at the next level. 2nd/3rd Round

Montee Ball, RB (No. 28)* -- Ball looked phenomenal in 2011 and has NFL scouts talking. He's a 210-pound ball-carrier with the shiftiness and elusiveness of a scat-back. Ball runs hard on the inside and effectively catches the pass out of the backfield. He'll be a situational ball-handler upon entering the NFL with the potential to develop into a feature runner. 2nd Round

Nick Toon, WR (No. 1) -- The Badger senior is smooth, graceful and very dependable, just like his dad, former NFL star Al Toon. He plays a smart brand of football and competes for the reception, consistently coming away with the tough grab. Toon is not fleet of foot, but a potential second receiver. 2nd Round

Andrew Luck, QB (No.12)* -- Luck has been the premier quarterback prospect in the nation since September 2010. He'll be the best signal-caller drafted into the NFL since Peyton Manning. Luck possesses the physical skills, football intellect and leadership ability to guide a professional franchise for a decade. He will be the top pick in the 2012 draft and an immediate starter for the lucky teams that selects him. 1st Round

Coby Fleener, TE (No. 82) -- Fleener is one of the most reliable weapons for quarterback Andrew Luck and a terrific pass-catching tight end. He has the speed necessary to get down the field and creates mismatches in the secondary. Blocking is not Fleener's strong suit, and the senior projects as a move tight end in the NFL. 3rd Round

Justin Blackmon, WR (No. 81)* -- The dynamic play-maker presently ranks as the top receiver prospect in the nation and projects as a top-10 pick. Blackmon spurned the 2011 draft and returned to OSU, improving as a player on the field and person off it. He offers better potential than former teammate Dez Bryant and is compared by several NFL scouts to Terrell Owens. 1st Round

Brandon Weeden, QB (No. 3) -- The 27-year-old Weeden has built a buzz around himself in scouting circles after a tremendous senior campaign. He's a vertical passer who displays a good degree of accuracy on throws. Weeden has marched to the head of the senior class of signal-callers and improved his draft stock by two full rounds this year. 2nd Round
 
I would love James in round 3 but am afraid due to his unique skill set he will go sooner. I'm not comfortable with that.

If Hillis returns that'd be a hell of a pairing though.

 
Ballard doesn't have much burst and can dance too much for a guy his size. But he's got good hands, so he might be a 3rd down RB at the next level.

 

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