[Dynasty] 2014 Draft Prospects (3 Viewers)

[Faust]

2014 NFL Draft: Georgia Preview

 

[Faust]

Grading CBSSports.com's All-America team as NFL prospects

 

[Faust]

2014 NFL Draft: Kentucky Preview

 

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2014 NFL Draft: LSU Preview

 

[Faust]

Clowney, Bridgewater top picks in college all-star mock draft

 

[Faust]

Coaches Preseason All-SEC Football Team Announced

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (August 22, 2013) – The defending national and Southeastern Conference Champions Alabama Crimson Tide led the league with 16 student-athletes named to the Coaches’ 2013 Preseason All-SEC squad, the SEC announced Thursday.

Alabama placed a league-high five on the first team, while earning seven on the second team, and four on the third team. LSU and Georgia both had eight receive recognition, while Florida and Tennessee had seven each.

This marks the 11th straight year of the SEC Coaches Pre-Season All-SEC Team.

Eleven of the 14 SEC schools had a representative on the first-team, while every institution had at least two players named to one of the three units.

Coaches were not permitted to vote for their own players.

LSU junior Odell Beckham Jr. was named to all three teams at three different positions, while Florida junior Ronald Powell was elected to the third team at both linebacker and defensive lineman by the SEC head coaches.

The 2013 SEC Coaches’ Pre-Season All-SEC Football Team is listed below:

OFFENSE
First-Team
QB - Aaron Murray, Georgia
RB - Todd Gurley, Georgia
RB - T.J. Yeldon, Alabama
WR - Amari Cooper, Alabama
WR - Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt
TE - Arthur Lynch, Georgia
OL - Jake Matthews, Texas A&M
OL - Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama
OL – Gabe Jackson, Mississippi State
OL - Antonio Richardson, Tennessee
C - Travis Swanson, Arkansas

Second-Team
QB - Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M
RB - LaDarius Perkins, Mississippi State
RB - Tre Mason, Auburn
WR - Mike Evans, Texas A&M
WR - Donte Moncrief, Ole Miss
TE - Rory Anderson, South Carolina
OL - Anthony Steen, Alabama
OL - Ja'Wuan James, Tennessee
OL - Wesley Johnson, Vanderbilt
OL - *A.J. Cann, South Carolina
OL - *Chris Burnette, Georgia
OL - *Zach Fulton, Tennessee
OL - *Jon Halapio, Florida
C - Reese Dismukes, Auburn

Third-Team
QB - AJ McCarron, Alabama
RB - Alfred Blue, LSU
RB - Keith Marshall, Georgia
WR - *Odell Beckham Jr., LSU
WR - *Malcolm Mitchell, Georgia
WR - *Dorial Green-Beckham, Missouri
TE - *Brian Vogler, Alabama
TE - *C.J. Uzomah, Auburn
OL - La'el Collins, LSU
OL - David Hurd, Arkansas
OL - Justin Britt, Missouri
OL - Aaron Morris, Ole Miss
C - James Stone, Tennessee

DEFENSE
First-Team
DL - Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina
DL - Dominique Easley, Florida
DL - Anthony Johnson, LSU
DL - Chris Smith, Arkansas
LB - C.J. Mosley, Alabama
LB - A.J. Johnson, Tennessee
LB - Denzel Nkemdiche, Ole Miss
DB - Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Alabama
DB - Craig Loston, LSU
DB - Andre Hal, Vanderbilt
DB - Loucheiz Purifoy, Florida

Second-Team
DL - Kelcy Quarles, South Carolina
DL - Daniel McCullers, Tennessee
DL - *Ed Stinson, Alabama
DL - *Xzavier Dickson, Alabama
DL - *Jeoffrey Pagan, Alabama
LB - Lamin Barrow, LSU
LB - Jordan Jenkins, Georgia
LB - Adrian Hubbard, Alabama
DB - Damian Swann, Georgia
DB - Marcus Roberson, Florida
DB - E.J. Gaines, Missouri
DB - Deion Belue, Alabama

Third-Team
DL - *Dee Ford, Auburn
DL - *C.J. Johnson, Ole Miss
DL - *Ronald Powell, Florida
DL - *Alvin Dupree, Kentucky
DL - *Denico Autry, Mississippi State
LB - Avery Williamson, Kentucky
LB - Benardrick McKinney, Mississippi State
LB - *Ronald Powell, Florida
LB - *Trey DePriest, Alabama
DB - Deshazor Everett, Texas A&M
DB - Nickoe Whitley, Mississippi State
DB - Vinnie Sunseri, Alabama
DB - Charles Sawyer, Ole Miss

SPECIALISTS
First-Team
PK - Carey Spear, Vanderbilt
P - Kyle Christy, Florida
RS - Odell Beckham Jr., LSU
AP – Bruce Ellington, South Carolina

Second-Team
PK - Cody Parkey, Auburn
P - *Tyler Campbell, Ole Miss
P - *Cody Mandell, Alabama
P - *Steven Clark, Auburn
RS - Marcus Murphy, Missouri
AP - Odell Beckham Jr., LSU

Third-Team
PK - *Andrew Baggett, Missouri
PK - *Zach Hocker, Arkansas
P - Michael Palardy, Tennessee
RS - Bruce Ellington, South Carolina
AP - LaDarius Perkins, Mississippi State

* - Ties

 

[Lash]

LOL only in the SEC can you win the Heisman and be on second team

nice list

 

[Faust]

LOL only in the SEC can you win the Heisman and be on second team

nice list

And the QB who has led his team to two BCS Championships is Third-Team.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I haven't heard people say much about Keith Marshall. Am I alone in thinking he may be a better bet to be a 3-down back than Gurley?

 

[Xue]

I haven't heard people say much about Keith Marshall. Am I alone in thinking he may be a better bet to be a 3-down back than Gurley?

Too much of a finesse runner. Marshall might have better hands, but Gurley projects more of a "feature" back to me.

 

[tdmills]

I haven't heard people say much about Keith Marshall. Am I alone in thinking he may be a better bet to be a 3-down back than Gurley?

Too much of a finesse runner. Marshall might have better hands, but Gurley projects more of a "feature" back to me.

Agreed. Marshall has skills, but he's not as consistent or physical as Gurley. He's faster but doesn't make up the difference that Gurley beats him in so many other areas.

 

[jurb26]

I haven't heard people say much about Keith Marshall. Am I alone in thinking he may be a better bet to be a 3-down back than Gurley?

Too much of a finesse runner. Marshall might have better hands, but Gurley projects more of a "feature" back to me.

Agreed. Marshall has skills, but he's not as consistent or physical as Gurley. He's faster but doesn't make up the difference that Gurley beats him in so many other areas.

Yup, Gurly is better in every way except raw speed IMO. Gurly is plenty fast, too. It's a great place to be if you're Georgia. Marshall is a big time player as well and would be a likely star if Gurly wasn't in the way. Marshall would start on 95% of the other teams in the NCAA. I think both get drafted, Gurly high 1st & Marshall 3rd or so.

 

[Faust]

2014 NFL Draft: Mississippi Preview

2014 NFL Draft: Mississippi State Preview

2014 NFL Draft: Missouri Preview

2014 NFL Draft: South Carolina Preview

2014 NFL Draft: Tennessee Preview

2014 NFL Draft: Texas A&M Preview

2014 NFL Draft: Vanderbilt Preview

 

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Rotoworld:

NFL.com's Mike Huguenin writes that Boston College senior QB Chase Rettig "has good size, a good arm and a quick delivery."
Rettig must work on his accuracy and pocket presence, according to Huguenin. The four-year starter was sacked 36 times last season. "At times, he simply holds onto the ball too long," according to Huguenin. Rettig (6-feet-3, 206 pounds) threw for 3,060 yards with a 17/13 TD/INT ratio last season and has thrown for 6,258 yards with a 35/31 TD/INT ratio and a 53.4 percent completion rate over his career. He will study under his fifth different offensive coordinator (Ryan Day) at Boston College this upcoming season. Day is expected to deploy a run-heavy scheme with spread elements.

Source: NFL.com

 

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2014 Big Board: USC's Lee could be first receiver taken

All 32 NFL teams begin the 2013 season with a blank slate, but it won't take long for the bottom dwellers to separate themselves from the pack of contenders and send their fans scrambling to analyze who may arrive as reinforcements in the NFL Draft next spring.

It's early, but the 2014 draft class certainly appears much stronger than the previous crop. The talent is still rich on the offensive line, but the skill position talent missing in 2013 has returned, including at quarterback, making presumptive No. 1 overall pick Jadeveon Clowney's perch a little more precarious than most realize.

The Big Board isn't a mock draft. There is no attention given to team needs or the projected selection order. It is simply a ranking of the 32 best prospects potentially eligible for the 2014 NFL Draft.

(* indicates underclassman)

1. DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina (6-6, 268, 4.65)* -- It is difficult to describe Clowney and not fall into the trap of hyperbole. He has more than lived up to his billing as the top prep prospect in the country in his first two seasons with the Gamecocks, and boasts the skill set to rank among the truly elite prospects of his generation.

2. OT Jake Matthews, Texas A&M (6-5, 305, 5.14) -- Luke Joeckel received most of the attention at Texas A&M last season, but there are some who believe Matthews (the son of Hall of Famer, Bruce) will wind up the better prospect. If Matthews handles the jump to left tackle as smoothly as scouts anticipate, a top-five selection is a virtual lock.

3. QB Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville (6-3, 220, 4.65)* -- Bridgewater has dominated the Big East in his first two seasons while easing concerns over his level of competition with an MVP performance in a Sugar Bowl win against an extremely talented Florida defense.

4. OLB Anthony Barr, UCLA (6-4, 238, 4.73) -- As the No. 5 pick of the 2013 NFL Draft, Ziggy Ansah showed what a breakout season can do for a pass-rusher. Barr, a former running back, exploded onto the Pac-12 scene last year to the tune of 21.5 tackles for loss and 13.5 sacks. If he can duplicate that success as a senior, he could wind up in the top 10, himself.

5. OT Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama (6-5, 312, 5.12)* -- Some questioned the wisdom of moving Barrett Jones from left tackle (where he'd won the Jacobs Blocking Trophy as the SEC's best lineman) to center in 2012. The reason for the switch was Kouandjio, a physically-blessed athlete who some have compared to former Redskins Pro Bowler Chris Samuels, the No. 3 overall pick out of Alabama in 2000.

6. DL Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame (6-5, 303, 4.89)* -- Overshadowed by Manti Te'o and even nose guard Louis Nix III a season ago, Tuitt's length, power and surprising quickness will ultimately earn him the highest grade from NFL scouts.

7. WR Marqise Lee, Southern Cal (6-0, 195, 4.51)* -- The reigning Biletnikof winner as the nation's top receiver, Lee possesses extraordinary agility and burst, making him a threat to score every time he touches the ball.

8. CB Bradley Roby, Ohio State (5-11, 190, 4.42)* -- The Buckeyes used to churn out first-round defensive backs annually. Roby, who possesses spectacular straight-line speed and quick hands, will renew the tradition.

9. QB Tajh Boyd, Clemson (6-1, 225, 4.68) -- Every team is looking for "the next Russell Wilson." In terms of his size, poise, mobility and arm talent, Boyd is one of the few quarterbacks to warrant comparison to the Seahawks' young standout.

10. OLB C.J. Mosley, Alabama (6-2, 232, 4.56) -- Athletic and instinctive, Mosley is a true three-down linebacker capable of making plays against the run and pass. He's among the best all-around football players in what appears to be a much stronger 2014 draft class, but his lack of elite size could keep him out of the top 10.

11. OT Taylor Lewan, Michigan (6-7, 310, 5.04) -- Possessing an incredible combination of size and athletic ability, Lewan has earned comparisons to former Michigan standout Jake Long.

12. DT Louis Nix III, Notre Dame (6-3, 326, 5.17)* -- Possessing broad shoulders, a thick lower half and surprisingly quick feet, Nix III is a classic run-stuffer with enough burst and determination to threaten the pocket, as well.

13. WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson (6-1, 200, 4.49)* -- It was Watkins, not USC's Lee, who was the more impressive pass-catcher as a freshman, but injuries and suspension led to a disappointing sophomore campaign for the Clemson star while Lee won the Biletnikof Award. Long and athletic, expect Watkins to re-emerge in 2013.

14. DE Aaron Lynch, South Florida (6-5, 248, 4.76)* -- Along with Tuitt and Nix III, Lynch starred at Notre Dame before sitting out last season per NCAA rules regarding transfers. Long, athletic and powerful, only has to answer questions about his commitment to earn a top 20 selection as the talent is obvious.

15. OT Cameron Erving, Florida State (6-5, 310, 5.26)* -- Erving played in 13 games as a redshirt freshman defensive tackle, but looked like a natural when moved to left tackle a season ago. Long, balanced and athletic, he offers immense upside.

16. OLB Kyle Van Noy, BYU (6-3, 235, 4.67) -- Overshadowed by Ansah, Van Noy was far and away the more consistent defender, registering an eye-popping 22 tackles for loss, 13 sacks, six forced fumbles, two interceptions and two blocked kicks in 2012. What can he do for an encore now that opponents will be focusing on him?

17. OT Antonio Richardson, Tennessee (6-6, 332, 5.16)* -- Nicknamed "Tiny," Richardson and his game proved anything but last season at left tackle for the Vols. Richardson is certainly a bit raw after just one season of starting action, but he's shockingly smooth for a man of his size.

18. OG Cyril Richardson, Baylor (6-5, 335, 5.27) -- A dominating drive blocker who projects best at guard but spent the entire 2011 season protecting Robert Griffin III at left tackle, Richardson is massive, powerful and shockingly athletic.

19. CB Jason Verrett, TCU (5-10, 182, 4.49) -- Verrett lacks the size so en vogue in today's NFL, but agility and ball-skills never go out of style for cornerbacks. Verrett led the Big 12 with 22 passes defended and six interceptions in 2012.

20. DT Anthony Johnson, LSU (6-3, 305, 5.29)* -- Four former Bayou Bengals have heard their name called in the first round since 2008. Johnson will have his work cut out for him with Barkevious Mingo and Sam Montgomery in the NFL, but his prototypical blend of size, power and athleticism makes him a strong bet to continue LSU's dominance along the defensive line.

21. OLB Ryan Shazier, Ohio State (6-2, 226, 4.58)* -- Shazier may be 10-15 pounds lighter than scouts would prefer but his instincts, speed and bone-jarring hits make him a fearful defender that offenses must account for on every snap.

22. DT Timmy Jernigan, Florida State (6-2, 298, 4.98)* -- Losing productive pass-rushers Bjoern Werner, Cornelius Carradine and Brandon Jenkins to the NFL is certainly going to hurt the Seminoles, but Jernigan's explosive hands make him a terror up the middle.

23. CB Loucheiz Purifoy, Florida (6-0, 185, 4.47)* -- An explosive athlete with a knack for making big plays at cornerback and on special teams, Purifoy is as talented as they come. At this point, however, he's a better athlete than football player, and he needs to improve in the finer techniques of the position to justify this lofty ranking.

24. OG Gabe Jackson, Mississippi State (6-3, 335, 5.34) -- While not as massive as Baylor's Cyril Richardson, Jackson's short, squatty build makes him an effective drive blocker and he possesses the light feet and balance necessary to star in a zone-blocking scheme.

25. DT Will Sutton, Arizona State (6-1, 288, 4.79) -- Sutton is undeniably smaller than scouts would prefer, but he uses his natural leverage advantage well, slicing through gaps to terrorize opponents. Sutton led the Pac-12 in both tackles for loss (23.5) and sacks (13) in 2012 and was voted the conference's most dominant defensive lineman -- over Star Lotulelei, among others.

26. TE C.J. Fiedorowicz, Iowa (6-6, 265, 4.65) -- A throw-back tight end capable of dominating opponents as both a blocker and receiver, Fiedorowicz (pronounced feh-DOR-uh-wits) may lack in name recognition but not in talent.

27. RB Lache Seastrunk, Baylor (5-09, 210, 4.45)* -- Boasting a compact build with excellent vision, agility and burst, Seastrunk proved every bit the superstar once on the field for the Bears following his transfer from Oregon. If not for a couple of troubling fumbles against UCLA in the Holiday Bowl, Seastrunk would be ranked even higher.

28. TE Eric Ebron, North Carolina (6-4, 245, 4.67)* -- A highly athletic and versatile prospect who stars not only as a matchup nightmare and powerful in-line blocker but as an occasional defensive end, Ebron could leap to the top of the tight end class with more consistency in 2013.

29. OLB Adrian Hubbard, Alabama (6-5, 252, 4.76)* -- Hubbard is the next Crimson Tide star on defense to keep an eye on. The lanky pass-rusher recorded 10 tackles for loss, six sacks and three forced fumbles in a breakout sophomore campaign and could be on the verge of much bigger things.

30. TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington (6-6, 267, 4.75)* -- A two-sport star for the Huskies (football, basketball), ASJ provides a unique combination of size, overall athleticism and ball-skills, making him a true mismatch for opponents. However, he was suspended for the season opener due to an offseason DUI arrest.

31. WR Donte Moncrief, Mississippi (6-2, 224, 4.49)* -- Moncrief's thick frame, deceptive speed and smooth route-running make him a nightmare for cornerbacks. He does not possess the explosive moves of Southern Cal's Lee or Clemson's Watkins but might be a better player than either of them.

32. DE/OLB Trent Murphy, Stanford (6-4, 261, 4.80) -- Murphy registered 18 tackles for loss and 10 sacks to lead the Cardinal in both categories a season ago. The stout, broad-shouldered athlete may project best as a defensive end rather than as a stand-up linebacker for some.

Just missed the cut:DT Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota

TE Colt Lyerla, Oregon*

OG David Yankey, Stanford*

WR Jordan Matthews, South Carolina

WR Kasen Williams, Washington*

 

[EBF]

2014 Big Board: USC's Lee could be first receiver taken

All 32 NFL teams begin the 2013 season with a blank slate, but it won't take long for the bottom dwellers to separate themselves from the pack of contenders and send their fans scrambling to analyze who may arrive as reinforcements in the NFL Draft next spring.

It's early, but the 2014 draft class certainly appears much stronger than the previous crop. The talent is still rich on the offensive line, but the skill position talent missing in 2013 has returned, including at quarterback, making presumptive No. 1 overall pick Jadeveon Clowney's perch a little more precarious than most realize.

The Big Board isn't a mock draft. There is no attention given to team needs or the projected selection order. It is simply a ranking of the 32 best prospects potentially eligible for the 2014 NFL Draft.

(* indicates underclassman)

1. DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina (6-6, 268, 4.65)* -- It is difficult to describe Clowney and not fall into the trap of hyperbole. He has more than lived up to his billing as the top prep prospect in the country in his first two seasons with the Gamecocks, and boasts the skill set to rank among the truly elite prospects of his generation.

2. OT Jake Matthews, Texas A&M (6-5, 305, 5.14) -- Luke Joeckel received most of the attention at Texas A&M last season, but there are some who believe Matthews (the son of Hall of Famer, Bruce) will wind up the better prospect. If Matthews handles the jump to left tackle as smoothly as scouts anticipate, a top-five selection is a virtual lock.

3. QB Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville (6-3, 220, 4.65)* -- Bridgewater has dominated the Big East in his first two seasons while easing concerns over his level of competition with an MVP performance in a Sugar Bowl win against an extremely talented Florida defense.

4. OLB Anthony Barr, UCLA (6-4, 238, 4.73) -- As the No. 5 pick of the 2013 NFL Draft, Ziggy Ansah showed what a breakout season can do for a pass-rusher. Barr, a former running back, exploded onto the Pac-12 scene last year to the tune of 21.5 tackles for loss and 13.5 sacks. If he can duplicate that success as a senior, he could wind up in the top 10, himself.

5. OT Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama (6-5, 312, 5.12)* -- Some questioned the wisdom of moving Barrett Jones from left tackle (where he'd won the Jacobs Blocking Trophy as the SEC's best lineman) to center in 2012. The reason for the switch was Kouandjio, a physically-blessed athlete who some have compared to former Redskins Pro Bowler Chris Samuels, the No. 3 overall pick out of Alabama in 2000.

6. DL Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame (6-5, 303, 4.89)* -- Overshadowed by Manti Te'o and even nose guard Louis Nix III a season ago, Tuitt's length, power and surprising quickness will ultimately earn him the highest grade from NFL scouts.

7. WR Marqise Lee, Southern Cal (6-0, 195, 4.51)* -- The reigning Biletnikof winner as the nation's top receiver, Lee possesses extraordinary agility and burst, making him a threat to score every time he touches the ball.

8. CB Bradley Roby, Ohio State (5-11, 190, 4.42)* -- The Buckeyes used to churn out first-round defensive backs annually. Roby, who possesses spectacular straight-line speed and quick hands, will renew the tradition.

9. QB Tajh Boyd, Clemson (6-1, 225, 4.68) -- Every team is looking for "the next Russell Wilson." In terms of his size, poise, mobility and arm talent, Boyd is one of the few quarterbacks to warrant comparison to the Seahawks' young standout.

10. OLB C.J. Mosley, Alabama (6-2, 232, 4.56) -- Athletic and instinctive, Mosley is a true three-down linebacker capable of making plays against the run and pass. He's among the best all-around football players in what appears to be a much stronger 2014 draft class, but his lack of elite size could keep him out of the top 10.

11. OT Taylor Lewan, Michigan (6-7, 310, 5.04) -- Possessing an incredible combination of size and athletic ability, Lewan has earned comparisons to former Michigan standout Jake Long.

12. DT Louis Nix III, Notre Dame (6-3, 326, 5.17)* -- Possessing broad shoulders, a thick lower half and surprisingly quick feet, Nix III is a classic run-stuffer with enough burst and determination to threaten the pocket, as well.

13. WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson (6-1, 200, 4.49)* -- It was Watkins, not USC's Lee, who was the more impressive pass-catcher as a freshman, but injuries and suspension led to a disappointing sophomore campaign for the Clemson star while Lee won the Biletnikof Award. Long and athletic, expect Watkins to re-emerge in 2013.

14. DE Aaron Lynch, South Florida (6-5, 248, 4.76)* -- Along with Tuitt and Nix III, Lynch starred at Notre Dame before sitting out last season per NCAA rules regarding transfers. Long, athletic and powerful, only has to answer questions about his commitment to earn a top 20 selection as the talent is obvious.

15. OT Cameron Erving, Florida State (6-5, 310, 5.26)* -- Erving played in 13 games as a redshirt freshman defensive tackle, but looked like a natural when moved to left tackle a season ago. Long, balanced and athletic, he offers immense upside.

16. OLB Kyle Van Noy, BYU (6-3, 235, 4.67) -- Overshadowed by Ansah, Van Noy was far and away the more consistent defender, registering an eye-popping 22 tackles for loss, 13 sacks, six forced fumbles, two interceptions and two blocked kicks in 2012. What can he do for an encore now that opponents will be focusing on him?

17. OT Antonio Richardson, Tennessee (6-6, 332, 5.16)* -- Nicknamed "Tiny," Richardson and his game proved anything but last season at left tackle for the Vols. Richardson is certainly a bit raw after just one season of starting action, but he's shockingly smooth for a man of his size.

18. OG Cyril Richardson, Baylor (6-5, 335, 5.27) -- A dominating drive blocker who projects best at guard but spent the entire 2011 season protecting Robert Griffin III at left tackle, Richardson is massive, powerful and shockingly athletic.

19. CB Jason Verrett, TCU (5-10, 182, 4.49) -- Verrett lacks the size so en vogue in today's NFL, but agility and ball-skills never go out of style for cornerbacks. Verrett led the Big 12 with 22 passes defended and six interceptions in 2012.

20. DT Anthony Johnson, LSU (6-3, 305, 5.29)* -- Four former Bayou Bengals have heard their name called in the first round since 2008. Johnson will have his work cut out for him with Barkevious Mingo and Sam Montgomery in the NFL, but his prototypical blend of size, power and athleticism makes him a strong bet to continue LSU's dominance along the defensive line.

21. OLB Ryan Shazier, Ohio State (6-2, 226, 4.58)* -- Shazier may be 10-15 pounds lighter than scouts would prefer but his instincts, speed and bone-jarring hits make him a fearful defender that offenses must account for on every snap.

22. DT Timmy Jernigan, Florida State (6-2, 298, 4.98)* -- Losing productive pass-rushers Bjoern Werner, Cornelius Carradine and Brandon Jenkins to the NFL is certainly going to hurt the Seminoles, but Jernigan's explosive hands make him a terror up the middle.

23. CB Loucheiz Purifoy, Florida (6-0, 185, 4.47)* -- An explosive athlete with a knack for making big plays at cornerback and on special teams, Purifoy is as talented as they come. At this point, however, he's a better athlete than football player, and he needs to improve in the finer techniques of the position to justify this lofty ranking.

24. OG Gabe Jackson, Mississippi State (6-3, 335, 5.34) -- While not as massive as Baylor's Cyril Richardson, Jackson's short, squatty build makes him an effective drive blocker and he possesses the light feet and balance necessary to star in a zone-blocking scheme.

25. DT Will Sutton, Arizona State (6-1, 288, 4.79) -- Sutton is undeniably smaller than scouts would prefer, but he uses his natural leverage advantage well, slicing through gaps to terrorize opponents. Sutton led the Pac-12 in both tackles for loss (23.5) and sacks (13) in 2012 and was voted the conference's most dominant defensive lineman -- over Star Lotulelei, among others.

26. TE C.J. Fiedorowicz, Iowa (6-6, 265, 4.65) -- A throw-back tight end capable of dominating opponents as both a blocker and receiver, Fiedorowicz (pronounced feh-DOR-uh-wits) may lack in name recognition but not in talent.

27. RB Lache Seastrunk, Baylor (5-09, 210, 4.45)* -- Boasting a compact build with excellent vision, agility and burst, Seastrunk proved every bit the superstar once on the field for the Bears following his transfer from Oregon. If not for a couple of troubling fumbles against UCLA in the Holiday Bowl, Seastrunk would be ranked even higher.

28. TE Eric Ebron, North Carolina (6-4, 245, 4.67)* -- A highly athletic and versatile prospect who stars not only as a matchup nightmare and powerful in-line blocker but as an occasional defensive end, Ebron could leap to the top of the tight end class with more consistency in 2013.

29. OLB Adrian Hubbard, Alabama (6-5, 252, 4.76)* -- Hubbard is the next Crimson Tide star on defense to keep an eye on. The lanky pass-rusher recorded 10 tackles for loss, six sacks and three forced fumbles in a breakout sophomore campaign and could be on the verge of much bigger things.

30. TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington (6-6, 267, 4.75)* -- A two-sport star for the Huskies (football, basketball), ASJ provides a unique combination of size, overall athleticism and ball-skills, making him a true mismatch for opponents. However, he was suspended for the season opener due to an offseason DUI arrest.

31. WR Donte Moncrief, Mississippi (6-2, 224, 4.49)* -- Moncrief's thick frame, deceptive speed and smooth route-running make him a nightmare for cornerbacks. He does not possess the explosive moves of Southern Cal's Lee or Clemson's Watkins but might be a better player than either of them.

32. DE/OLB Trent Murphy, Stanford (6-4, 261, 4.80) -- Murphy registered 18 tackles for loss and 10 sacks to lead the Cardinal in both categories a season ago. The stout, broad-shouldered athlete may project best as a defensive end rather than as a stand-up linebacker for some.

Just missed the cut:DT Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota

TE Colt Lyerla, Oregon*

OG David Yankey, Stanford*

WR Jordan Matthews, South Carolina

WR Kasen Williams, Washington*

For the sake of comparison, it would be interesting to see their 2012 preseason big board.

We think we have everything figured out and then these things get completely blown to smithereens.

Looking forward to it.

P.S.

Michael Dyer

 

[BeTheMatch]

Jordan Matthews looking pretty sweet last night for Vandy, Davante Adams too for Fresno State. Have both of them in one devy league or another. Pretty high on them. Will be watching Donte Moncrief a lot too, although they were really pimping the true freshman WR on Ole Miss.

 

[Faust]

NFL Draft Prospect Matchup: Week One

 

[aggs]

EBF, did a quick google search and found Matt Miller of Bleacher Report's top 33 picks. Byline was from 2012.

Notable players in his first round projection:

Keenan Allen, Robert Woods, Marcus Lattimore, Tyler Eiffert, Kenny Stills and Knile Davis.

 

[Faust]

NFL draft 2014 Big Board 1.0

 

[Faust]

Welcome to ClowneylandAndy Staples

My inaugural list breaking down the top 50 prospects for the 2014 NFL Draft

 

[Faust]

What we learned from Week 1 in the SEC What we learned from Week 1 in the Pac-12 What we learned from Week 1 in the Big Ten What we learned from Week 1 in the Big 12 What we learned from Week 1 in the ACC What we learned from Week 1 in the AAC

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

ESPN's Mel Kiper dropped Ole Miss junior WR Donte Moncrief from the No. 9 prospect overall to No. 19 following his week one performance against Vanderbilt.
Moncrief only managed five receptions for 56 yards against Vandy, but we think it is a bit early to drastically change rankings. "He was really frustrated in the game against Vandy, but credit the Commodores and Andre Hal," Kiper writes. "Moncrief has the look of a down-the-field threat who can use his size and good feel and body position to beat defenders for the ball, but he can also really chop his feet, cut and make people miss underneath. Hits his stride quickly for such a big player." The Rebel is now the No. 3 receiver on Kiper's big board.

Source: ESPN

NFL.com's Bucky Brooks dropped Alabama senior QB A.J. McCarron from No. 3 to No. 13 in his newest rankings of college quarterbacks.
McCarron completed only 10 of 23 attempts for 110 yards, one touchdown and one interception in Alabama's victory against Virginia Tech. "McCarron was determined to prove to the naysayers that he could function as a playmaker in a pro-style offense," Brooks wrote. "He failed miserably in that regard during a disappointing debut performance ... Of course, some of McCarron's issues could be placed on the leaky offensive line and receivers unable to get off the physical jams from the Hokies' tenacious cornerbacks. However, a franchise quarterback should be able to put the offense on his back when things aren't going well."

Source: NFL.com

Draft insider Tony Pauline believes San Jose State senior QB David Fales is being overrated right now.
Fales is a "nice college quarterback lacking size, arm strength for next level" Pauline writes, going on to call the senior a last day pick. The Spartan gained some momentum this offseason thanks to strong showings at passing academies, but we think he does his bets work on the field by working in tight situations and making multiple reads. Many will question his downfield velocity, so that is an area to watch.

Source: Tony Pauline on Twitter

West area scouts are buzzing about Wyoming senior WR Rob Herron, according to draft insider Tony Pauline.
Pauline is also a fan of Herron's, saying the receiver's film reminds him "an awful lot of Don Beebe." Herron likely projects to the slot, but he has displayed vertical ability to work beyond coverages. Our own Josh Norris listed Herron as a possible emerging talent this summer.

Source: Tony Pauline on Twitter

NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah writes USC junior WR Marqise Lee needs to improve his ball security issues.
In Jeremiah's words, Lee made three costly errors against Hawaii in the season opener. "He dropped an easy ball that would've converted a fourth down in the first quarter, lost a fumble on a punt return in the second quarter and later dropped a deep ball in the fourth quarter," the former NFL scout writes. Lee will be mentioned among the top draft-eligible receivers all season, and while we think he is very talented, we prefer Clemson junior Sammy Watkins.

Source: NFL.com

With some speculating he suffered a concussion, Vanderbilt senior WR Jordan Matthews insists he is fine after taking a hit against Ole Miss.
"If you look at the hit, I definitely got hit in the stomach," Matthews said. "I think people were worried that I went back out there too fast, but we have a top-notch training staff." The senior had 10 catches for a career-high 178 yards against the Rebels and continues to show a smooth style when working downfield.

Source: Fox Sports

 

[Faust]

Josh Norris' Top 50 & QB Ranks

 

[Faust]

Big Board: Skill positions making comeback, pushing Clowney

by Rob Rang | NFLDraftScout.com
Sep. 6, 2013 3:33 PM ET

The early portion of the college football season is showing the country what NFL scouts have been aware of for some time -- there is a wealth of talent spread across the country.

The 2014 draft class certainly appears much stronger than the previous crop. The talent is still rich among offensive linemen, but the skill position talent missing in 2013 has returned, including at quarterback, making presumptive No. 1 overall pick Jadeveon Clowney's perch a little more precarious than most realize.

The Big Board isn't a mock draft. There is no attention given to team needs or the projected selection order. It is simply a ranking of the 32 best prospects potentially eligible for the 2014 NFL Draft.

(* indicates underclassman)

1. Jadeveon Clowney*, DE, South Carolina (6-feet-6, 268 pounds): Considering the preseason hype, it is fair to characterize Clowney's season-opening performance against North Carolina as less than spectacular. Three tackles and three QB pressures despite constant double-teams, hot and humid conditions and a bout with a stomach virus, however, is hardly cause for concern. The media may panic after one lackluster performance, but scouts won't and neither will I.

2. Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M (6-5, 305): Matthews allowed one sack in his first collegiate start at left tackle but was otherwise dominant against Rice. He'll face a much tougher task when Alabama comes rolling in Sept. 14.

3. Teddy Bridgewater*, QB, Louisville (6-3, 220): Ohio hardly qualifies as elite opposition, but Bridgewater certainly looked like a future top pick in his dismantling of the Bobcats' secondary (23 for 28, 355 yards, five touchdowns, one interception). Accurate, athletic and intelligent, Bridgewater is Clowney's most obvious challenger to be the first pick of the 2014 draft.

4. Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA (6-4, 238): As the No. 5 pick of the 2013 NFL Draft, Ziggy Ansah showed what a breakout season can do for a pass rusher. Barr, a former running back, exploded onto the Pac-12 last year to the tune of 21½ tackles for loss and 13½ sacks. He started the 2013 campaign just as he left off, recording two tackles for loss among his five stops against Nevada.

5. Cyrus Kouandjio*, OT, Alabama (6-5, 312): Some questioned the wisdom of moving Barrett Jones from left tackle (where he had won the Jacobs Blocking Trophy as the SEC's best lineman) to center in 2012. The reason for the switch was Kouandjio, a physically blessed athlete who some have compared to former Redskins Pro Bowl left tackle Chris Samuels, the No. 3 overall pick out of Alabama in 2000.

6. Stephon Tuitt*, DL, Notre Dame (6-5, 303): Overshadowed by Manti Te'o and even nose guard Louis Nix III a season ago, Tuitt's length, power and surprising quickness will ultimately earn him the highest grade from NFL scouts.

7. Marqise Lee*, WR, Southern California (6-0, 195): The reigning Biletnikoff winner as the nation's top receiver, Lee has extraordinary agility and burst, making him a threat to score every time he touches the ball. But with the Trojans lacking experience at quarterback, Lee could struggle to duplicate his previous success. It took him eight catches to eclipse the 100-yard mark in the season opener against Hawaii, and he was visibly frustrated at times.

8. Bradley Roby*, CB, Ohio State (5-11, 190): The Buckeyes used to churn out first-round defensive backs. Roby, who has spectacular straight-line speed and quick hands, will renew the tradition. He will be making his 2013 debut against San Diego State after serving a one-game suspension for his part in a fight during the offseason.

9. Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson (6-1, 225): Less-than-ideal size will always bring some detractors. Critics are finding it tougher to identify flaws in Boyd's game after the Tigers' stirring victories over LSU and Georgia in his past two games. A true dual-threat quarterback, Boyd is earning comparisons to Pro Bowl passers Russell Wilson and the late Steve McNair from scouts.

10. C.J. Mosley, OLB, Alabama (6-2, 232): Athletic and instinctive, Mosley is a true three-down linebacker capable of making plays against the run and pass. He's among the best all-around players in what appears to be a much stronger draft class, but his lack of elite size could keep him out of the top 10.

11. Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan (6-7, 310): With an incredible combination of size and athletic ability, Lewan has earned comparisons to former Michigan standout Jake Long. He'll have his hands full this week, however, as Notre Dame and its fearsome defensive line visit Ann Arbor.

12. Louis Nix III*, DT, Notre Dame (6-3, 326): With broad shoulders, a thick lower half and surprisingly quick feet, Nix III is a classic run-stuffer with enough burst and determination to threaten the pocket as well.

13. Sammy Watkins*, WR, Clemson (6-1, 200): It was Watkins, not USC's Lee, who was the more impressive pass-catcher as a freshman. Injuries and suspension led to a disappointing sophomore campaign for the Clemson star while Lee won the Biletnikoff Award. With an increasingly rare combination of size and athleticism, Watkins looked poised to rebound in 2013 in the season opener, hauling in six passes -- including a 77-yard touchdown to help the Tigers beat Georgia.

14. Aaron Lynch*, DE, South Florida (6-5, 248): With Tuitt and Nix, Lynch starred at Notre Dame before sitting out last season as a transfer. Long, athletic and powerful, Lynch boasts undeniable talent. Scouts want to see more maturity from him, however. They're also expecting big plays -- something Lynch was unable to accomplish with just three tackles in a surprising home loss to McNeese State in the Bulls' opener.

15. Cameron Erving*, OT, Florida State (6-5, 310): Erving played in 13 games as a redshirt freshman defensive tackle, but looked like a natural when moved to left tackle a season ago. Long, balanced and athletic, he offers immense upside.

16. Kyle Van Noy, OLB, BYU (6-3, 235): Overshadowed by Ziggy Ansah, Van Noy was far and away the more consistent defender, registering an eye-popping 22 tackles for loss, 13 sacks, six forced fumbles, two interceptions and two blocked kicks in 2012. He was similarly productive in the Cougars' 2013 opener against Virginia (four tackles, including 2½ for loss), but was unable to help lead BYU to a victory.

17. Antonio Richardson*, OT, Tennessee (6-6, 332): Nicknamed "Tiny," Richardson and his game proved anything but last season at left tackle for the Vols. Richardson is certainly a bit raw after just one season of starting action, but he's shockingly smooth for a man of his size.

18. Cyril Richardson, OG, Baylor (6-5, 335): A dominating drive blocker who projects best at guard but spent the entire 2011 season protecting Robert Griffin III at left tackle, Richardson is massive, powerful and surprisingly athletic.

19. Jason Verrett, CB, TCU (5-10, 182): Verrett lacks the size so en vogue in today's NFL, but agility and ball skills never go out of style for cornerbacks. Verrett led the Big 12 with 22 passes defended and six interceptions in 2012, and proved up to the task of playing with the big boys in the Horned Frogs' 2013 season opener, standing out against LSU with seven tackles, a sack and three passes broken up.

20. Anthony Johnson*, DT, LSU (6-3, 305): Four former Bayou Bengals have heard their name called in the first round since 2008. Johnson will have his work cut out for him in Baton Rouge with Barkevious Mingo and Sam Montgomery in the NFL, but his prototypical blend of size, power and athleticism makes him a strong bet to continue LSU's dominance along the defensive line.

21. Ryan Shazier*, OLB, Ohio State (6-2, 226): Shazier might be 10-15 pounds lighter than scouts would prefer but his instincts, speed and bone-jarring hits make him a fearful defender that offenses must account for on every snap.

22. Timmy Jernigan*, DT, Florida State (6-2, 298): Losing productive pass-rushers Bjoern Werner, Cornelius Carradine and Brandon Jenkins to the NFL is certainly going to hurt the Seminoles, but Jernigan's explosive hands make him a terror up the middle.

23. Louchiez Purifoy*, CB, Florida (6-0, 185): An explosive athlete with a knack for making big plays at cornerback and on special teams, Purifoy is as talented as they come. He's a better athlete than football player, at this point, and must prove that he's mature enough to handle the big stage. He was one of six Gators suspended for the season opener.

24. William Sutton, DT, Arizona State (6-1, 288): Sutton is smaller than scouts would prefer but uses his natural leverage advantage well, slicing through gaps to terrorize opponents. Sutton led the Pac-12 in both tackles for loss (23½) and sacks (13) in 2012 and was voted the conference's most dominant defensive lineman -- over Star Lotulelei, among others.

25. C.J. Fiedorowicz, TE, Iowa (6-6, 265): A throwback tight end capable of dominating opponents as both a blocker and receiver, Fiedorowicz (pronounced feh-DOR-uh-wits) may lack in name recognition and production (two catches, including one TD in season-opening loss to Northern Illinois) but not in talent.

26. Lache Seastrunk*, RB, Baylor (5-9, 210): Boasting a compact build with excellent vision, agility and burst, Seastrunk proved every bit the superstar once on the field for the Bears following a 2011 transfer from Oregon. He rushed for 112 yards and two scores on just 11 attempts against FCS Wofford in the Bears' season opener.

27. Eric Ebron*, TE, North Carolina (6-4, 245): Ebron is a highly athletic and versatile prospect. He is not only a matchup nightmare and powerful in-line blocker at TE but also stars as an occasional defensive end. He could leap to the top of the tight-end class with more consistency in 2013.

28. Austin Seferian-Jenkins*, TE, Washington (6-6, 267): A two-sport star for the Huskies (football, basketball), ASJ provides a unique combination of size, overall athleticism and ball skills, making him a true mismatch for opponents. His 2013 debut won't occur until a showdown with Illinois at Soldier Field on Sept. 14 after he was suspended for the Huskies' season-opening win over Boise State for an offseason DUI.

29. Trent Murphy, DE/OLB, Stanford (6-4, 261): Murphy registered 18 tackles for loss and 10 sacks to lead the Cardinal in both categories a season ago. The stout, broad-shouldered athlete may project best as a defensive end rather than as a standup linebacker for some.

30. Ra'Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota (6-6, 312): The Golden Gophers haven't produced a NFL first-round pick since the Patriots nabbed running back Lawrence Maroney in 2006, but that is precisely the sort of buzz the Minneapolis native is generating. The preseason first-team All-Big Ten defensive tackle sparkled in a season-opening win over UNLV, recording five tackles, a pass broken up and a blocked field that was returned for a touchdown.

31. Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo (6-3, 248): With an eye-popping 56 tackles for loss, 18 sacks and 11 forced fumbles already on his résumé entering the 2013 season, rest assured that scouts are well aware of Mack. Proving that his instincts and big-play proficiency could stand up when facing Ohio State (9½ tackles, 2½ sacks, interception returned for a touchdown), however, has Mack's stock soaring.

32. Adrian Hubbard*, OLB, Alabama (6-5, 252): Hubbard is the next Crimson Tide star on defense to keep an eye on. The lanky pass rusher recorded 10 tackles for loss, six sacks and three forced fumbles in a breakout sophomore campaign and could be on the verge of much bigger things. His length, athleticism and versatility (lines up as a DE as well as OLB) is even more intriguing than his statistics.

Just missed the cutDavid Yankey*, OG, Stanford
Colt Lyerla*, TE, Oregon
Jordan Matthews, WR, South Carolina
Gabe Jackson, OG, Mississippi State
Donte Moncrief*, WR, Mississippi

 

[Faust]

Top Prospect of Week One: Alabama WR/RS Christion Jones

 

[EBF]

Big game for Odell Beckham yesterday. He's not the biggest receiver, but he's very explosive and quick. I think he will be a top 60 pick.

Allen Robinson has had a good start to the season.

Donte Moncrief looked good on his long TD yesterday. I had questioned whether he was as big as listed, but he actually does look to be about 6'2" 215-220.

One of my deep sleepers, Sam Houston State RB Tim Flanders, had a monster game against Texas A&M. I think he'll get a combine invite. I'm curious to see how he tests because he seems to have some potential.

Marqise Lee has been struggling. I'm not sure how much of that is his fault. Lane Kiffin can't coach.

 

[Faust]

Georgia QB Aaron Murray comes up big vs. South Carolina What we learned from Week 2 in the Pac-12 What we learned from Week 2 in the Big Ten What we learned from Week 2 in the Big 12 What we learned from Week 2 in the ACC What we learned from Week 2 in the AAC

 

[Faust]

Marqise Lee has been struggling. I'm not sure how much of that is his fault. Lane Kiffin can't coach.

Lane Kiffin's baffling offensive philosophy neuters Marqise Lee

 

[Faust]

Baylor offense renders Buffalo LB Khalil Mack invisible

 

[Xue]

Marqise Lee has been struggling. I'm not sure how much of that is his fault. Lane Kiffin can't coach.

Lane Kiffin's baffling offensive philosophy neuters Marqise Lee

Lee is overrated. He's more of a late 1st rounder to me, and not even that. Sure his QBs sucked so far, but it is what it is. Maybe Max Browne can get him the ball.

 

[EBF]

Marqise Lee has been struggling. I'm not sure how much of that is his fault. Lane Kiffin can't coach.

Lane Kiffin's baffling offensive philosophy neuters Marqise Lee

Lee is overrated. He's more of a late 1st rounder to me, and not even that. Sure his QBs sucked so far, but it is what it is. Maybe Max Browne can get him the ball.

You tend to say that about a lot of players. Sometimes I agree, but sometimes I think you try too hard to have a contrarian opinion.

Lee is very good. Maybe not top 10 overall good. He doesn't have dominant size or elite track speed, but he's strong for his height and he's an explosive athlete despite not being a 4.2 burner. I think he will be fine in the NFL and is well worth a first round pick. I could see his stock sliding down into the 10-25 range, but no further. He's not Keenan Allen. He's going to test well and show up with a good height/weight ratio at the combine.

 

[Xue]

I just think people aren't doing their due diligence and have basically settled very early on the idea that it's Watkins/Lee at the top.

 

[jurb26]

I just think people aren't doing their due diligence and have basically settled very early on the idea that it's Watkins/Lee at the top.

OK, I'll bite. Who do you see passing them up? I follow college football a lot. Probably more than most even around here. I don't see anyone worthy of getting drafted higher. The guy I've liked as a dark horse for a while is S. Diggs. Overall I don't think this WR class projects to be very deep with 1st and 2nd round talent though.

 

[Mister CIA]

Isaiah Crowell continues to march towards relevance.

Through two games he has 272 yards on 29 carries (11-93-0 and 18-179-1, which included an 84 yard breakaway). Given that he proved he could play on the field as a freshman at Georgia (alas, but not off the field), I think it's fairly safe to ignore reservations normally held for star players from small schools.

I also saw in the news that he shed 15 pounds this past off-season and is now clocking in at 5'11" and 190. I suppose this is good news if he dropped mostly fat. Got to believe that he can add back the 15 pounds in the form of lean muscle and settle in with a LeSean Mccoy type build for the rigors of the NFL.

 

[Time Kibitzer]

I just think people aren't doing their due diligence and have basically settled very early on the idea that it's Watkins/Lee at the top.

OK, I'll bite. Who do you see passing them up? I follow college football a lot. Probably more than most even around here. I don't see anyone worthy of getting drafted higher. The guy I've liked as a dark horse for a while is S. Diggs. Overall I don't think this WR class projects to be very deep with 1st and 2nd round talent though.

Really? I think this WR draft class is much better than last years, and last years draft class had 3 first rounders and 3 second rounders.

Marquise Lee, Sammy Watkins, Sean Price (best subdivision prospect I've ever seen), Paul Richardson, Mike Evans, and Davante Adams make this WR draft class light years better than last years at this point last year imo.

I think Diggs is a true sophomore, so I don't think he's eligible for this years draft.

 

[MAC_32]

Last year's WR class was deep, but the top left a lot to be desired.

Next year's probably won't be as deep, but the top looks much better.

 

[EBF]

I just think people aren't doing their due diligence and have basically settled very early on the idea that it's Watkins/Lee at the top.

OK, I'll bite. Who do you see passing them up? I follow college football a lot. Probably more than most even around here. I don't see anyone worthy of getting drafted higher. The guy I've liked as a dark horse for a while is S. Diggs. Overall I don't think this WR class projects to be very deep with 1st and 2nd round talent though.

That dark horse is a 5 star prospect unanimously rated as one of the best WR talents for 2015. He's not eligible for the next draft though.

 

[EBF]

Last year's WR class was deep, but the top left a lot to be desired.

Next year's probably won't be as deep, but the top looks much better.

I think this year's group will probably be better from top to bottom. Most of the 2nd-3rd round receivers from last year's class didn't impress me.

I think the WR3-WR5 range will be strong in 2014. I like what I've seen from Moncrief, Beckham, and Robinson this year.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

FWIW, De'Anthony Thomas is breaking the RB model. Even though his touches are up about 50% vs last year his efficiency hasn't dropped off at all.

I didn't have Tavon Austin with the RBs, but plugged him in just now and Thomas's numbers are better both rushing and receiving. By a pretty wide margin. I think it's worth thinking about the possiblity that Thomas is basically a more explosive version of Austin.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

FWIW, De'Anthony Thomas is breaking the RB model. Even though his touches are up about 50% vs last year his efficiency hasn't dropped off at all.

I didn't have Tavon Austin with the RBs, but plugged him in just now and Thomas's numbers are better both rushing and receiving. By a pretty wide margin. I think it's worth thinking about the possiblity that Thomas is basically a more explosive version of Austin.

The difference being that Austin did a lot more in terms of running routes and proving he can play WR. Thomas I think sticks with RB, for good or ill, which makes him a totally different type of prospect trying to break his own, different, barriers.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

FWIW, De'Anthony Thomas is breaking the RB model. Even though his touches are up about 50% vs last year his efficiency hasn't dropped off at all.

I didn't have Tavon Austin with the RBs, but plugged him in just now and Thomas's numbers are better both rushing and receiving. By a pretty wide margin. I think it's worth thinking about the possiblity that Thomas is basically a more explosive version of Austin.

The difference being that Austin did a lot more in terms of running routes and proving he can play WR. Thomas I think sticks with RB, for good or ill, which makes him a totally different type of prospect trying to break his own, different, barriers.

Agree with what you're saying that Thomas is more of a true RB than Austin, but if Thomas is killing Austin's per touch receiving totals from the RB position it's even more impressive IMO.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

FWIW, De'Anthony Thomas is breaking the RB model. Even though his touches are up about 50% vs last year his efficiency hasn't dropped off at all.

I didn't have Tavon Austin with the RBs, but plugged him in just now and Thomas's numbers are better both rushing and receiving. By a pretty wide margin. I think it's worth thinking about the possiblity that Thomas is basically a more explosive version of Austin.

The difference being that Austin did a lot more in terms of running routes and proving he can play WR. Thomas I think sticks with RB, for good or ill, which makes him a totally different type of prospect trying to break his own, different, barriers.

Agree with what you're saying that Thomas is more of a true RB than Austin, but if Thomas is killing Austin's per touch receiving totals from the RB position it's even more impressive IMO.

Is it really? Lined up at WR, defenses will approach defending you like, well, a WR. Receiving out of the backfield is less impressive to me, the defense is probably covering you with a LB at best and you're not foremost among their concerns even in a passing situation.

 

[EBF]

Any Oregon RB with speed is going to put up huge numbers in that offense. James had 5500 rushing yards at 6.6 YPC in his career. Barner had 1700+ yards at 6.4 YPC last year. The Oregon system is extremely friendly. If a back has a little bit of vision and good speed, he's going to dominate. DAT seems to be a more gifted runner than Barner and James, but he's even smaller than those two if his listed dimensions are accurate. He will really test the limits of how small a pro RB can be because he looks like an undersized CB or a thinner Jamaal Charles. I don't know what an NFL team is going to do with him. You can't play him at slot WR and he probably can't handle a full workload at RB. Looks like a "slash" weapon and return man to me. I think the true frosh RB Thomas Tyner is a better RB prospect because he's bigger and faster. I would not be surprised to see him overtake Marshall and then Thomas as the team leader in carries for the remainder of the season. He's still playing catch up at the moment because he missed ~2 weeks of camp with an ankle injury.

 

[Xue]

I don't care what kind of numbers Thomas puts up, he either needs to run a 4.2 or weight at least 190 at the combine to sell me on him.

 

[Xue]

I just think people aren't doing their due diligence and have basically settled very early on the idea that it's Watkins/Lee at the top.

OK, I'll bite. Who do you see passing them up? I follow college football a lot. Probably more than most even around here. I don't see anyone worthy of getting drafted higher. The guy I've liked as a dark horse for a while is S. Diggs. Overall I don't think this WR class projects to be very deep with 1st and 2nd round talent though.

It's not so much as who passes him up, but more like who else could be rated/ranked near him.

Jordan Matthews

Mike Evans

Paul Richardson

Donte Moncrief

Allen Robinson

Davante Adams

Brandon Coleman

Odell Beckham, Jr

It isn't clear to me that Lee is above these guys.

 

[EBF]

I think the answer with Lee is probably somewhere in the middle. He might not be the can't-miss mega star that some will hype him to become, but he's likely to be a first round pick and a solid NFL player. I could see his stock taking a hit in February when the tape measures and stop watches come out. He doesn't have the size of Demaryius Thomas or the speed of Mike Wallace. However, he looks to be a good weight for his height and you know from his track background (25 foot long jumper) that he's probably going to test well in the broad jump and vertical. He has exceptional agility and quickness. Dominant production over a stretch of 20+ games. I wouldn't overthink this one too much.

I think there are a few WRs in this draft besides Lee and Watkins who have a chance to get into the first round of the draft, but Lee would still be my #1 WR in a dev draft.

 

[EBF]

On another note, Seastrunk is looking dynamite this year. Seems like he will run away with the RB1 spot in this draft. No challenger in sight at the moment.

 

[werdnoynek]

On another note, Seastrunk is looking dynamite this year. Seems like he will run away with the RB1 spot in this draft. No challenger in sight at the moment.

 

[Xue]

On another note, Seastrunk is looking dynamite this year. Seems like he will run away with the RB1 spot in this draft. No challenger in sight at the moment.

Melvin Gordon.

I personally have Gordon ranked #1 for 2014.