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Dynasty DE stashes (1 Viewer)

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Im getting concerned about my DE depth in several leagues. time to retool.

Any names I should be looking out for?

What do we think of D Moore NYG? I thought he might have shown more this year but I dont know how fit he has actually been.

 
Similar issue for me. My DL3 has been a constant churn of WW trash while waiting for JPP.

Heyward is available and now on my claim list. :thumbup:

 
Missed out on Heyward in one league as I waited an extra week due to byes and injuries. got him everywhere else.

 
I've been watching several low priced guys that I think have a bright future. All of these guys come cheap.

Glenn Foster (Saints) Undrafted rookie free agent that has played a fair number of snaps. He's had 3 sacks in limited time, but he's extremely explosive. From an athletic standpoinit, he's one of the most physically gifted DE's in the league. It's going take some luck for him to hit, but the risk versus the price is worth it.

Devin Taylor (Lions) Another explosive edge rusher with a bright future. He's filled in for Ziggy over the past couple of weeks. He'll certainly be in the rotation next season.

Cornelius Washington & David Bass (Bears) Bass has developed faster than Washington. Bass actually scored a TD last week.

Tank Carradine (49ers) He was my top rated DE in the 2013 draft. He was just activated off the NFI a few weeks ago after tearing his ACL last season. He would be my first choice if I was looking for a stash. He has value as a pass rusher, but he's excellent against the run as well.

Armonty Bryant (Browns) Another explosive rookie that has flashed. If he can lay off the weed, he has a bright future.

Allen Bailey (Chiefs) I think he's a 3rd year guy. I've been waiting for him to hit since he entered the league. He's incredibly athletic. He saw more snaps last week than he's had all season, and he had 4 tackles. I'm not sure if Devito was hurt or not. Another player on the Chiefs I like is Mike Catapano.

Olivier Vernon (Dolfphins) If he isn't rostered in your league, he needs to be. Having a terrific year for a 2nd year DE.

Jonathan Massaquoi (Falcons) Second year player starting to develop and seeing more snaps.

Damontre Moore (Giants) Suspect Tuck will be gone next season. Moore has looked terrific in limited snaps.

Vinny Curry (Eagles) A mystery why he hasn't played more. All he does is make plays. He's making it difficult to keep him off the sidelines.

Andre Branch (Jaguars) A longshot but has shown some improvement over his rookie season. It's obviousl Bradley has had some influence on his game.

Deeeep Stashes

Benson Mayowa (Seahawks)

Nick Williams (Steelers)

Gerald Rivers (Rams)

Steven Means (Bucs)

 
I've been watching several low priced guys that I think have a bright future. All of these guys come cheap.

Glenn Foster (Saints) Undrafted rookie free agent that has played a fair number of snaps. He's had 3 sacks in limited time, but he's extremely explosive. From an athletic standpoinit, he's one of the most physically gifted DE's in the league. It's going take some luck for him to hit, but the risk versus the price is worth it.

Devin Taylor (Lions) Another explosive edge rusher with a bright future. He's filled in for Ziggy over the past couple of weeks. He'll certainly be in the rotation next season.

Cornelius Washington & David Bass (Bears) Bass has developed faster than Washington. Bass actually scored a TD last week.

Tank Carradine (49ers) He was my top rated DE in the 2013 draft. He was just activated off the NFI a few weeks ago after tearing his ACL last season. He would be my first choice if I was looking for a stash. He has value as a pass rusher, but he's excellent against the run as well.

Armonty Bryant (Browns) Another explosive rookie that has flashed. If he can lay off the weed, he has a bright future.

Allen Bailey (Chiefs) I think he's a 3rd year guy. I've been waiting for him to hit since he entered the league. He's incredibly athletic. He saw more snaps last week than he's had all season, and he had 4 tackles. I'm not sure if Devito was hurt or not. Another player on the Chiefs I like is Mike Catapano.

Olivier Vernon (Dolfphins) If he isn't rostered in your league, he needs to be. Having a terrific year for a 2nd year DE.

Jonathan Massaquoi (Falcons) Second year player starting to develop and seeing more snaps.

Damontre Moore (Giants) Suspect Tuck will be gone next season. Moore has looked terrific in limited snaps.

Vinny Curry (Eagles) A mystery why he hasn't played more. All he does is make plays. He's making it difficult to keep him off the sidelines.

Andre Branch (Jaguars) A longshot but has shown some improvement over his rookie season. It's obviousl Bradley has had some influence on his game.

Deeeep Stashes

Benson Mayowa (Seahawks)

Nick Williams (Steelers)

Gerald Rivers (Rams)

Steven Means (Bucs)
Great info. Thanks. Exactly what I was looking for.

 
On another note, where these guys are rostered, they are very often the type of players that get cut in off season as owners overload at RB or WR hoping for a breakout.

Then us patient guys get out pay off.

 
Margus Hunt in Cin is a freak physically so you have to take him seriously. I question his motor.

Dion Jordan can end up being solid at sacks, tackles and other stats like passes defended. He's more than just a pass rusher like many believe.

There's always next year with Clowney

 
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Awesome. Thanks. Foster and Carradine have been on my watch list all season. Time to add a few more.

Devito did get hurt, which explains Bailey's uptick in production. Devito just signed a 3 year deal but Tyson Jackson is in his final year so Bailey could be getting a big role next year.

 
I wonder how Tank Carradine would fair gaining 15+ pounds and playing DT. That's if his 40x wasn't a touch slow due to injuries. He had high sack counts but low TFL, which could be another indication of him being slow for a DE. He has Muhammad Wilkerson kind of upside at DT. He has lots of talent.

 
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Margus Hunt in Cin is a freak physically so you have to take him seriously. I question his motor.

Dion Jordan can end up being solid at sacks, tackles and other stats like passes defended. He's more than just a pass rusher like many believe.

There's always next year with Clowney
Hunt was the guy I targeted deep in all IDP leagues. He hasn't done anything yet, can cincy homers tell us what's going on over there?

 
Margus Hunt in Cin is a freak physically so you have to take him seriously. I question his motor.

Dion Jordan can end up being solid at sacks, tackles and other stats like passes defended. He's more than just a pass rusher like many believe.

There's always next year with Clowney
Hunt was the guy I targeted deep in all IDP leagues. He hasn't done anything yet, can cincy homers tell us what's going on over there?
He's very, very, very raw. You could tell while watching Hard Knocks that he wasn't going to do much this year

 
Allen Bailey is probably going to be starting this week with Devito out and I thought I read Jackson was dinged as well. I am tempted to snag him and start him, my DE depth is bad. Not asking for advice, but I currently have have Vernon and Wolfe starting, in mho neither are great options this week.

 
Allen Bailey is probably going to be starting this week with Devito out and I thought I read Jackson was dinged as well. I am tempted to snag him and start him, my DE depth is bad. Not asking for advice, but I currently have have Vernon and Wolfe starting, in mho neither are great options this week.
I'm curious to see what Bailey can do. At 290 pounds, there are very few players who can match his raw athleticsm. I haven't seen him play that much this year, but he posted 4 tackles and a hurry last week. That's solid production. In the past, he's been considered more of an athlete.....lacked football instincts. If it ever begins to click, however, he'll be a monster.

Mike Catapano is another deep sleeper on their roster who will likely see more snaps tomorrow as well. While he's not as naturally atheletic as Bailey, his instincts and football IQ are off the charts. When the Chiefs drafted him, I assumed they were going to convert him to a 3/4 end since he only came into the league around 270 pounds. He's still playing with his hand in the dirt which is were I think he has more value. At his pro day, he ran a 7.09 3-Cone, 4.75 Forty, 37.5" Vertical and a 33 rep bench. If you aren't familiar with him, here's some tape from his time at Princeton:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUY5pHKipgg&feature=youtu.be (vs Georgetown)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ2KDQPONFg&feature=youtu.be (vs Penn)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0-WeCHApmQ&feature=youtu.be (East - West Shrine Game)

I doubt he'll have much value this year, but he's certainely worth a look as a stash in a deep league. Good luck with Bailey tomorrow. Rivers is getting the ball out a lot faster this year which has limited sack opportunities.....compared to previous seasons.

 
Malik Jackson, DEN is the only name I've been monitoring that's not been listed here.

He's a 2012 5.02 draft pick and is rotating in behind Robert Ayers. I keep waiting for him to overtake Ayers.

I don't know the snap counts.

 
Margus Hunt in Cin is a freak physically so you have to take him seriously. I question his motor.

Dion Jordan can end up being solid at sacks, tackles and other stats like passes defended. He's more than just a pass rusher like many believe.

There's always next year with Clowney
Hunt was the guy I targeted deep in all IDP leagues. He hasn't done anything yet, can cincy homers tell us what's going on over there?
Like mentioned he is very raw and Zimmer and Lewis are getting known for taking it slow with rookie defensive players - especially on the defensive line. Both Still and Thompson were basically red-shirted last season. Hunt has been getting some snaps the last four games, with very little production, but part of those are as a pass-rushing DT which is obviously partly due to Atkins' injury but probably also a role that Hunt will continue having in the future - much like Gilberry has had. The positive on Hunt is that he has some crazy physical tools and if there is any team that can coach him well it should be the Bengals, but his progress would also need to happen sooner rather than later since he is a rookie who will be 27 before next season starts. He was likely partly brought in as insurance in case Michael Johnson leaves after this season, plus one can never have too many pass rushers, but I'm not sure he will progress quickly enough to be ready for that type of role. It is more likely that he will be a situational pass rusher next season. I would say he is a guy with a very low floor but also a high ceiling.

 
Massaquoi has had a couple big weeks in a row. Anyone see him play? He is not listed as the starter, but he is putting the #'s. Will he have relevance for the last few games of this year?

 
Massaquoi has had a couple big weeks in a row. Anyone see him play? He is not listed as the starter, but he is putting the #'s. Will he have relevance for the last few games of this year?
I'm curious also... He's been consistently in on only half of the snaps.

Week 9 - 47%

Week 10 - 51%

Week 11 - 46%

Week 12 - 38%

Week 13 - 53%

Week 14 - 58%

 
so which would be the preference of these DEs

Here is my ranking:

Allen Bailey

Jon Massaquoi

Glen Foster

David Bass

Any one think differently?

Tks,

B

 
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Massaquoi has had a couple big weeks in a row. Anyone see him play? He is not listed as the starter, but he is putting the #'s. Will he have relevance for the last few games of this year?
I'm curious also... He's been consistently in on only half of the snaps. Week 9 - 47%

Week 10 - 51%

Week 11 - 46%

Week 12 - 38%

Week 13 - 53%

Week 14 - 58%
(KFFL)Atlanta Falcons DE Osi Umenyiora played just 27 snaps in a reserve role in Week 15 against the Washington Redskins, working as a designated pass rusher. DE Jonathan Massaquoi started in Umenyiora's usual spot. Head coach Mike Smith is trying to keep Umenyiora fresh, and after a meeting with head coach Mike Smith, defensive coordinator Mike Nolan indicated Tuesday, Dec. 17, that the veteran was content with the move. "I thought he did an outstanding job in the game when he did go in," Nolan said. "He was fresher. He was better prepared for the third down because of that. You know, when you play every down, it can wear on you."
 
I read that too - do you think he is higher than Bailey at this point? Is it a push or is Bailey better heading into 2014? To me it looks like Massaquoi will be the starter next year.

 
Margus Hunt in Cin is a freak physically so you have to take him seriously. I question his motor.

Dion Jordan can end up being solid at sacks, tackles and other stats like passes defended. He's more than just a pass rusher like many believe.

There's always next year with Clowney
Hunt was the guy I targeted deep in all IDP leagues. He hasn't done anything yet, can cincy homers tell us what's going on over there?
Like mentioned he is very raw and Zimmer and Lewis are getting known for taking it slow with rookie defensive players - especially on the defensive line. Both Still and Thompson were basically red-shirted last season. Hunt has been getting some snaps the last four games, with very little production, but part of those are as a pass-rushing DT which is obviously partly due to Atkins' injury but probably also a role that Hunt will continue having in the future - much like Gilberry has had. The positive on Hunt is that he has some crazy physical tools and if there is any team that can coach him well it should be the Bengals, but his progress would also need to happen sooner rather than later since he is a rookie who will be 27 before next season starts. He was likely partly brought in as insurance in case Michael Johnson leaves after this season, plus one can never have too many pass rushers, but I'm not sure he will progress quickly enough to be ready for that type of role. It is more likely that he will be a situational pass rusher next season. I would say he is a guy with a very low floor but also a high ceiling.
He's a unique talent that will piss off Bengals fans for years. He has no passion for football from what I've seen. 6'8 277 with a 4.6 forty, good agility and 38 BENCH REPS. He's a JJ Watt/Peppers kind of athlete, nowhere near them in terms of production. He did block 17 kicks to keep the Watt comp going. Maybe he's more of a Mario Williams at this point, all-world athlete with questionable skills/motor.
 
Branch has been doing it for about a month and a half. I know all leagues are different, etc, etc and I hate when people say this, but....he probably shouldn't be sitting around any but the shallowest of WWs. If he's available, he absolutely needs to be picked up post-haste.

Jene liked him a good bit, purely as a rusher, during that draft season, IIRC. I'm not Jene, but I know I sure did.

Gholston has been doing well in a more non-traditional method than most DEs; meaning, most of his value comes from tackles instead of the splash plays. If he can hold down that LDE spot going forward into '14 I like him too.

 

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