TheBradyBunch
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If your dynasty league has a trade and/or waiver deadline coming up, let's hear some of the guys you're finally giving up on and those that you plan on stashing for the future. Who's comin' and who's goin'?
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ddogs24
Footballguy
Someone dropped Ginn 2 weeks ago in my league so I grabbed him as soon as possible. I think in most dynasty leagues he's taken though. Here's a list of guys I think that could/should be stashed for next year.
-James Hardy
-Pierre Thomas
-Limas Sweed
-Kevin Kolb
-Devin Thomas
-Chris Henry(CIN)
-James Hardy
-Pierre Thomas
-Limas Sweed
-Kevin Kolb
-Devin Thomas
-Chris Henry(CIN)
Zaphod
Two heads are better than one
I actually like Jerome Simpson from the Bengals a lot more than Henry. I just think Henry will never mature and Simpson, while not explosive, has decent route running ability and good hands. He will add bulk and has strong upside moving forward.
Domenik Hixon and Malcom Floyd are great WR stashes. Darren Sproles, Ahmad Bradshaw tops on RB. Luke McCown/Josh Johnson at QB. All could have a lot more opportunity next year.
Really it all depends on how deep your league is, if you want to go deeper I can.
Really it all depends on how deep your league is, if you want to go deeper I can.
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LionsFan78
Footballguy
Been holding onto Fasano all season, just couldn't move him for anything. Not even a late rookie pick. I'll never start him again this season (behind Dustin Keller and Zach Miller). Been wanting to add Brad Cottam to my roster all season long. Finally said screw it and dropped Fasano for him. Might not make much sense, but it was a gut call. I'd rather make the move now, than be a week too late.
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really this comes down to who is available in your league...some IR RBs - Thomas Brown, Kregg Lumpkin, Mike HartBeen holding onto Fasano all season, just couldn't move him for anything. Not even a late rookie pick. I'll never start him again this season (behind Dustin Keller and Zach Miller). Been wanting to add Brad Cottam to my roster all season long. Finally said screw it and dropped Fasano for him. Might not make much sense, but it was a gut call. I'd rather make the move now, than be a week too late.
an IR WR - Demetrius Williams
Brad Smith was getting a lot of buzz in the preseason, don't write him off yet.
Matt Moore has been a forgotten man, but his best football is ahead of him.
LionsFan78
Footballguy
Anyone still like James Jones? Is he still a great stash...or has he missed his opportunity in GB?
love the skills, but the word is he's not playing through injuries... I prefer Nelson at this point.
LionsFan78
Footballguy
Bloom, (or anyone)
How would you rank the following young TE's that are very likely on many waivers right now, but may have a larger role in the future?
Brad Cottam
Martin Rucker
Brent Celek
Dante Rosario
How would you rank the following young TE's that are very likely on many waivers right now, but may have a larger role in the future?
Brad Cottam
Martin Rucker
Brent Celek
Dante Rosario
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cottam - low TE1 upside once gonzo is gonzo, health risk thorosario - could be somethin if a team decides to use as a regular slot receiver/TE a la kellerrucker - never that impressed with him missouri, not the receiving talent of cottam or rosario, although could have great opportunity if KWII and Cleveland really are splitsville.celek - good try hard guy and production is there in philly's O + opportunity if lj moves on, i just prefer more physically talented receivers
bump if anyone wants more opinions of who to keep and who to jettison
TheBradyBunch
Footballguy
Long-time listener, first-time caller. Thanks for taking my call!Look into your crystal ball and tell me how you see the Washington Redskins WR's stacking up in '09 and moving forward? The Skins hyped 2nd round of Thomas-Davis-Kelly has been a dud thus far, but it's a position that takes time. Moss badly needs one of these guys to develop as ARE's not answer as a #2 WR. Thomas has all the tools and Kelly's now made it two weeks of full practices w/o the knee flaring up and with rave reviews from coaches and teammates. I guess I'm looking more for your opinion on this unit as a whole, who steps up, who falls into what roles and maybe how it effects the established guys like Moss, Cooley and Campbell?
kneeshooter
Footballguy
Was just about tho ask the same thing. Thinking about cutting James Jones for either Thomas or Kelly in anticipation for next year.
Kelly has the skills to be a poor man's Brandon Marshall, it's just a question of that knee holding up. Thomas was very raw coming out of Michigan State - that much is apparent, but we will get to see how he has developed, as the team seems to be getting him more involved. I was never impressed with Fred Davis at USC, and when I saw him take an end around for the Skins this year, he looked S----L-----O-----W. Kelly has more upside, and more risk. I have no doubt about his ability - impeccable hands and game in the air, great run blocker too. Thomas is the run after catch threat, but we still need to see him run routes and learn the finer points of the position. I like Kelly to become the red zone specialist, and Thomas the guy who gets the ball at least 4-6 times a game in space - although you would think they would do that with Moss, and they don't. Campbell is a good buy low right now, the offense has fallen out of synch, but should get better with the inclusion of the new weapons. Cooley's value is rock solid and he should finish strong. Moss is going to continue to be up and down, but the speed and terrific natural WR game is still there.
the Titans game plan, plus the emergence of Gage and Scaife and re-emergence of Brandon Jones means he'll get a meager slice of an already small passing pie during 2009, and probably longer.
Ware should be at worst the RB3 on a very very good team next year. The way that the Giants have sat on him (they're good judges of talent) is a sign that he's worth carrying in deep leagues.Brennan has apparently impressed the Redskins, and while Campbell seems more secure than he did after that stinker of a season opener, if the offense doesn't get on track before the end of the year, Brennan becomes more interesting. I think we were all too hasty to write him off after his horrendous bowl game and Senior bowl week. It seems like his hip flexor injury and sickness that caused him to drop a few dozen pounds were more to blame than not having the goods to make the jump to the NFL.
Sounds right, although Walker should get an extended audition when Matt Jones gets suspended, maybe even before. Like Kelly, if his knee holds up, he could be a good one. You can safely dump the other 3.I'm beginning to wonder if VY will ever even start again in the NFL
LionsFan78
Footballguy
Bloom - I've refused to cut bait on Earl Bennett so far this year. I just refuse to believe he won't emerge as the top option for that team in the next few years. Call me unimpressed with any other WR on that team for the long haul. Is he a solid stash right now, or is there a valid reason why Chicago hasn't gotten him on the field this year?
happy_donut
Footballguy
Looking for opinions on these WR's:
Laurent Robinson, ATL
Keenan Burton, StL
Roy Hall, IND
Drew Carter, OAK
Isaiah Stanback, DAL
Most have been slowed by injury this season. Any hope for the future here?
Laurent Robinson, ATL
Keenan Burton, StL
Roy Hall, IND
Drew Carter, OAK
Isaiah Stanback, DAL
Most have been slowed by injury this season. Any hope for the future here?
jaisonline
Footballguy
depending on your starters, i think the following are worth stashing. I only named a few.
QB - Kolb, Leinart (Warner always gets hurt right?), V.Young (this is an interesting one)
RB - J.Charles (if LJ gets hurt and the off is clicking), P.Thomas, F.Jackson (if that's my son gets hurt like last season), C.Buckhalter & maybe even Booker (then again Reid is anti-run and Andrews is still missing).
QB - Kolb, Leinart (Warner always gets hurt right?), V.Young (this is an interesting one)
RB - J.Charles (if LJ gets hurt and the off is clicking), P.Thomas, F.Jackson (if that's my son gets hurt like last season), C.Buckhalter & maybe even Booker (then again Reid is anti-run and Andrews is still missing).
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
Just dumped Hawkins for the reasons that the above poster said (run first, run second team with Gage & Jones emerging). Burton was the replacement for Hawkins, as Holt doesn't look long for this league, and Burton was outplaying Avery by some reports this spring & summer (Avery was dinged, & Burton performed then Burton was dinged and Avery has starred). His former teammate, Steve Johnson in Buffalo is another that I'm scooping up if I have the roster space. Earl Bennet was one of my targets in this draft as he was labled the best route-runner in the draft - and to me that means 5 X more than what a 4.4 40 yard dash does. However, if he has not been getting looks, or even seeing the field on a team with a WR corps as weak as Chicago, my hopes for him are quickly waning. Cut bait on Drew Carter. Great in spring, wearing shorts. Useless on Sundays after August. Stanback, I like a lot. Too bad there's already so much talent in front of him. You could wait for years on him. Robinson looked really good late last year but being dinged up this year, Jenkins finally looking like a servicable #2 and Harry Douglas impressing, I think the window might be a little snug for him to fit through.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
Not waiver wire, but if you want to move on a TE before his name catches up to his talent and his increasing production, Greg Olson is the guy to get. He's cheap and startable. Makes bigger name guys like Scheffler expendable if you can get any trade value for them.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
Besides the bumps & bruises, he's been a fumble monster since late last year. I too am on the Nelson bandwagon.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
If he's still available, Jason Hill, the 2nd year WR in S.F. is a great pickup in dynasty right now. He's already getting looks, S.Hill already trusts him, Issac Bruce is really 47, B.Johnson is only there on a 1 year trial contract and A.Battle has been injured and fairly ineffective this year. Josh Morgan was the fantasy sweetheart a few weeks ago and has allowed Hill to sneak up on the FFB crowd. DO NOT SLEEP ON HIM.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
In my one dynasty where I have a very slim chance of making the playoff and have more of an eye on next season I just dropped some "name" WRs (Amani Toomer, Mark Clayton, Reggie Brown) who have shown to be adequate at best options for some hopefully future potential:
Keenan Burton - 4th round pick out of Kentucky was actually impressing more than Donnie Avery in camp before getting injured. Is starting to get looks with the Rams out of it and Holt looking cloe to the end.
John Standeford - Tall WR out of Purdue in his second year. Actually saw the field last week and may get a look down the stretch.
Jabar Gafney - droopped in many leagues due to no passing in New England could have some nice value next year when Brady is back and the offense is in fulll gear. Big game against the Jets may have put him back on the radar.
Keenan Burton - 4th round pick out of Kentucky was actually impressing more than Donnie Avery in camp before getting injured. Is starting to get looks with the Rams out of it and Holt looking cloe to the end.
John Standeford - Tall WR out of Purdue in his second year. Actually saw the field last week and may get a look down the stretch.
Jabar Gafney - droopped in many leagues due to no passing in New England could have some nice value next year when Brady is back and the offense is in fulll gear. Big game against the Jets may have put him back on the radar.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I've held him all year as well. He was the rookie WR I thought would make the most impact. While I was obviously wrong about that I do think he has the talent to be a very good WR and dodn't want to cut him so some one else can benefit down the road.
folks, ive been away at lunch and i have to run some errands now, but ill try to comment on all the guys mentioned when i get back
PranksterJD
Footballguy
Would you mind including Jermichael Finley in this list? Seems like he could rank either right below or above rucker? Did the bonehead comments criticizing Rodgers put him in the doghouse with the GB brass? My understanding is that he's an outstanding athlete, but very raw and needs some ( potentially a lot of ) time to develop. He was a project coming out... how's that project coming along?
Another guy to keep an eye on is Devone Bess. He's quietly put together a nice rookie campaign, with 19/188/1. He doesn't get the press some of the others have, but he's getting on the field and improving each week.
Is Chad Jackson worth holding on to?
Is Chad Jackson worth holding on to?
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Cecil Lammey's Haircut
Footballguy
doucet?
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what a great thread.
Guys I've picked up lately include JJ Arrington (why no?), Kevin Kolb and Mike Walker.
Guys I've thrown to the waiver wire include Javon Walker, Lorenzo Booker and Reggie Williams.
I'm also an Earl Bennett holder in one league, and am wondering if he's worth a roster spot at this stage. I certainly thought he'd be at least on the field by now, any Chicago homers know what's been holding his development back?
Guys I've picked up lately include JJ Arrington (why no?), Kevin Kolb and Mike Walker.
Guys I've thrown to the waiver wire include Javon Walker, Lorenzo Booker and Reggie Williams.
I'm also an Earl Bennett holder in one league, and am wondering if he's worth a roster spot at this stage. I certainly thought he'd be at least on the field by now, any Chicago homers know what's been holding his development back?
I think he's a no brainer stash. If Boldin ends up moving out of AZ, Doucet gets a bump up, as will Breaston.I'm also holding onto Earl Bennett. I just wish I knew why he has not been on the field
Captain Spaulding
Footballguy
RB's: I like Cobbs and Parmalee in Miami. I'm still not sold on the long term outlook for the Ricky/Ronnie show. Of course they could bring in a free agent RB in an offseason or draft one but I like the low cost keeper here if you have room on your roster.
TD heavy league...go get Gary Russell from the Steelers. Tomlin looks sold on Russell to be used in short yardage situations in the future due to successes the last 2 weeks compared to Moore and Parker. Look for him to be the Pittman style TD vulture going forward and in TD heavy scoring leagues, will be greatly ourscoring your scat back starter competitors who getting goose eggs for the 15 attempts for 95 yd outputs. Take the 3 carries for 1 yard but 6pts each week for a TD and run with it.
WR's...I liked the DJ Hackett choice someone else made. When healthy I think he can do quite alot in Carolina.
TD heavy league...go get Gary Russell from the Steelers. Tomlin looks sold on Russell to be used in short yardage situations in the future due to successes the last 2 weeks compared to Moore and Parker. Look for him to be the Pittman style TD vulture going forward and in TD heavy scoring leagues, will be greatly ourscoring your scat back starter competitors who getting goose eggs for the 15 attempts for 95 yd outputs. Take the 3 carries for 1 yard but 6pts each week for a TD and run with it.
WR's...I liked the DJ Hackett choice someone else made. When healthy I think he can do quite alot in Carolina.
Looks that way, but I think he's good enough to get a shot to start on his second team. Definitely worth stashing in deep and 2 QB leagues.Jarrett looks like an unmitigated bust. I still love what Hackett flashed in Seattle, but we haven't seen it in Carolina, so he has fallen below a lot of the first and second year unknowns on my board.JAK Straw said:
Bennett looked pretty fast on some punt return duty, and I love his clutch receiving skills. I think he's a solid stash with the development of Orton as a solid QB. I have to think the reason he hasn't gotten more play is the emergence of Davis, Lloyd, and Hester, but with Booker hurting we may get to see Bennett this season.LionsFan78 said:
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Rumor has it he has been healthy on rare occasions. Mind you its just a rumor though.
Love Robinson's natural physical ability, but there's murmurs that he'll be one of those always hurt guysBurton is going to start opposite Avery very soon, definite stash.Hall is a size/speed freak and I like his chances to be the #3 or #4 when Harrison moves on - between him and Garcon one of them should gain a lot of value next year.Carter suffered his second serious knee injury, have to wait and see if he gets his speed backStanback is a specimen, but Miles Austin has distanced himself from the pack there, might have to wait for Stanback's second team.happy_donut said:
Cookiemonster said:
It's Hill and Morgan going into 2009. Hill looks like a good technician on the short and intermediate stuff. Now if they can just get a QB...
Huge catch radius and he's very fluid for a big guy, but he failed in his audition this year and then followed it up with those comments. I'm not excited, although they did split him out wide and gave him a red zone target.PranksterJD said:
Bess is decent, but probably a career slot receiver. Im interested more in Brandon London among the deep sleepers in Miami. London has great size and the Giants, who are excellent judges of talent, kept him on the PS last year. London got a red zone target and made a real nice catch, but was out of bounds. Jackson can rise to the #3 spot in Denver if he plays his cards right, I have to ask Cecil what the word is out of Dove Valley on him. The athleticism is off the charts, but his hands were brutal at times when he got in for NE.Holden23 said:
Injury problems have followed him from LSU + Breaston has emerged. Will only have value in the immediate future if Boldin goes elsewhere, which would be a travesty after the way he has played this year.Cecil Lammey said:
I really liked Parmele coming out of Toledo, I was surprised when Cobbs made the 53 over him, but Cobbs has shown why when he gets touches. I think Ricky/ Ronnie rolls exactly the same next year (Ricky is running with young legs), but Parmele is a good long term stash.
BigH
Footballguy
I'm on the fence about Kevin Jones. I'm the Forte owner in my league so he has value to me as a handcuff. However, I had some hope (perhaps false) that he would show enough this year so that he could have a dark horse chance at a starting job elsewhere next year. Now, I'm not even sure if he's the back to own as Forte's handcuff.
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