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This is an interesting comment..... AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT FCFSBruce Zowned had 1 off season BBID run. Problem is he didnt even warn us so we never knew when the waivers were actually opend to allow for bidding.
You got too much free time on your hands. Curious. How old are you? Wife? Kids?
26 with a wife, a job that had me working 41 hours over the last three days in addition to the time I spent packing up my house to move, looking for a new job in the place we're moving to, and trying to buy a house.Maybe I'm some kind of boy genius, but I am capable of turning on my computer monitor and clicking my mouse button in a matter of seconds. Maybe that's how I squeeze such a cumbersome and time consuming task in.
Bingo.FCFS in the offseason is just a bit too Wild West for me. God forbid someone goes on vacation.
Then I would vote 'no'. But no waiver wire all offseason? People playing dynasty leagues, I don't know why they would want that.
What are you doing posting online? Don't you have a life?
No, there was never any intention to make it related to FCFS waivers only. Waivers is waivers, and that can include blind bidding. The point is whether to have a down time or not (other than during the draft), FCFS has nothing to do with it.
I never understood why this type of line gets trotted out. What does age, a wife, and kids have to do with FF? Plenty of guys who play in year round ww leagues have families, etc, and they manage to get their ww pickups in.
how does having FA locked make it dead? do you still play in MOX leagues? I played in 2 of those leagues for 3 or 4 years. 14 teams, 20 players per team, there are no players to pick up. maybe a few here and there but it is not like owners are making tons of add/drop during the offseason. to me the best parts about dynasty offseason is trading
Half of my dynasty leagues run blind bid waivers weekly (Wed night for one league, Fri night for the rest) then FCFS through Sunday night. The other half of my dynasty leagues are FCFS all week.I prefer the once a week processing of waivers rather than FCFS all week. It's just fairer to owners who can't be at the computer poring over news during the week when much of the player movement and other news takes place.
I think it turns leagues into less active leagues, period.
We have an allotment of fake money that we get at the start of every offseason (that is meant to last through the offseason and through the NFL season) to use to bid on players. During the offseason, a bid on a player is not closed until it goes a week with no new bids. So there is plenty of time for people to make sure they don't miss anything. This is 2009, people don't go weeks at a time without sitting down at a computer (and if people are going on long trips out of the country or anything like that, we freeze free agency).I find it baffling that...a) People that are into FF enough to play in dynasty leagues are willing to accept FCFS waiversandb) People are able to find plenty of time to post on an FF message board all offseason but claim they don't have time to keep up with free agents in the offseason. It's not like this is the regular season where you have to comb injury reports to find out that some guy stubbed his toe this week so his backup might be worth picking up just in case. Anything that affects free agents is big news in the offseason, and pretty much happens over the course of a couple days (NFL free agency and the draft).
For most of the leagues that do it, FCFS is just offseason. I personally like it a lot - makes leagues fairly active. But I think anyone here voting "yes" would be happy with one round of BB / rotating W2F a week, with FCFS after that.
The leagues I commish are WORST-TO-FIRST waivers during the season and FCFS during the off-season. It helps a lot with making the league more active, no doubt about it. The HyperActive leagues I'm in have blind bidding once a week, then FCFS on the weekends (both in-season and off-season). The other two leagues I'm in are FCFS during the offseason (except of course during the draft) and are worst-to-first waivers during the season.
Is it possible for someone to find 5 minutes a week to get online and check all the latest news and put in their bids? Yes. Does it add any enjoyment for them to have to do it for 30+ weeks in a row? When there's no fantasy games being played, so really no reason the roster changes need to be done every week? Not for everyone it doesn't. There's a point where having to do something continually and endlessly can turn something you enjoy into something tedious. A lot of people get burned out on fantasy football by the end of the FF season and are ready for a break from needing to worry about it. Let alone 20 weeks later into postseason.For me personally, there is also the fact that I find a formal veteran auction or draft closer to preseason a LOT more fun and appealing than 30 weeks of waivers that accomplished the same thing. I imagine I'm far from alone in that respect. I don't have a problem with anyone who is looking for something to do so wants a league where waivers happen every week. But I don't get someone who claims they can't understand how anyone would feel different. The reasons others feel as they do are pretty simple to explain and to understand, even if it isn't your personal preference.
Shouldn't these folks be playing in redraft leagues, not dynasty?
Since dynasty leagues are about having a recurring roster which you try to build and maintain over a period of years... I'd have thought the answer would clearly be 'no'.You can make long term decisions about your rosters a couple times a year in the offseason the same as you can make them weekly.
That's all fine and dandy for your every day joe-schmo that has only a casual interest in football, but there are 54 people (and counting) who are here on these boards saying they don't want to put in that time. If you're here on these boards then you're already caught up with what's going on, there's no extra work involved.Besides, as I said it's not like during the season where you have to actually look for the info. There's so few changes with major effect going on that any time there is it's big news. Of the 54 people voting no here, how many do you think didn't know that the Broncos had signed Correll Buckhalter within a week of it happening? I'm going to go with a big fat zero.
Just because I enjoy coming here to socialize, to talk about the Texans, to talk about the NFL, to read up on the draft... doesn't mean that I must think 30 weeks of blind bidding waivers is more fun than a big vet auction... doesn't mean that I don't find tedious having to do 30 weeks of waivers to avoid my team suffering, when there's really no pressing reason any roster moves have to be made that frequently. That I have the time I could do it by your prefererence doesn't mean I must have it be my preference, and doesn't mean I can't think other ways of doing it are more fun. Why do you care so much what my preference is that you're arguing that I'm wrong as opposed to accepting that we disagree on what is most fun for each of us?
I get people preferring the FA draft, and I'm fine with that. I like having prefer having free agency and a separate rookie draft rather than just one big draft, but to each his own. I have no problem with that.I'm specifically talking about people sitting here acting like it's this huge time consuming task that is always looming over their head. 30 weeks of waivers? What are you playing with, 120 man rosters? I would venture to guess that most owners put in fewer than 3-5 bids all offseason anyways, and most likely all around the same distinct times (beginning of the offseason, right as NFL free agency kicks off, and right after the NFL draft).
That's the part no one wants to talk about
What you say is true, but the OP & Poll position is that there's NO time it shouldn't be open year-round except the draft. So:
I am in a league where fa are drafted in rounds three abd below-in the rookie draft. If you know who you want trade for some third round picks-but make sure not to give away too much.
Come on now. I think GregR represented well the position of those not wanting to be working the wire year round, and it's reasonable. I happen to enjoy it, you obviously do too, but it's reasonable not to. It doesn't mean they are weekend warriors (whatever that is) or afraid of anything. It's likely they are keeping up with the news just fine, but just aren't interested in messing with rosters year round. That's no crime.
Like OMG, LMFAO. You're such a macho fantasy baller. Will be my BFF?
From reading this thread it seems like some of the supporters of all year WW see it as fantasy football dogma. To suggest an alternative is heresy, no matter the reason. Our League runs a blind bid free agent event with the rookie draft live once a year. To me I find it more interesting to have this event. As an owner you have to carefully balance your resources with your team needs. You need to identify what values you place on your target free agents, as well what you believe their perceived value is. In short you have to come up with a plan for the free agent bidding and that plan has to fit with your draft plan. Also since we use the same money for free agents throughout year, you have to decide how much to spend on the usually higher priced free agents at the event and how much to leave for WW guys throughout the year. Every offseason teams re-evaluate and come up with their yearly plans and start trading to position themselves to execute them. This offseason we have had 16 trades. We remain in touch and active. I golf with some of them and fantasy football is almost always talked about. I have time to do year round WW, but it's just not as much fun. There is more to think about and do without them. Activity in dynasty fantasy leagues is more then just what can be recorded in a transaction log. Our league structure is our own creation and works well for us. Year round WW probably works for alot of leagues and I can understand where people would enjoy it. It's just not for everyone. So before you write the fantasy football doctrine on tablets of stone, understand that you can have a fun active competitive dynasty league with or without year round WW. The decision in and of itself does not have intrinsic value, it doesn't make your dynasty league any better or worse then any other league.Sanboy said:
#1 in particular is exactly why I think they should remain closed.
