DYNASTY: players you are targeting (1 Viewer)

[jdoggydogg]

We all would like Reggie Bush on our teams. Unfortunately, he may fetch too high of a price in auction and serpentine drafts. So Bush aside, which players will you be targeting this year?

My short list:

Vernon Davis

- I have Heath Miller on my team, but I would love to roster the exciting Davis as well. Davis is fast enough to become the SF deep threat. Eric Johnson is supposedly healthy, but we know that's never going to last long. Even if Johnson plays out the whole year, SF did not draft Davis to play behind Johnson. There are SF fans in my league, but they aren't going to overspend on Davis. I am relatively certain I will nab Davis for a decent price.

Deangelo Williams and Lawrence Maroney

- I would be pleased to fetch either player. While I think that Williams is more talented, Maroney has also landed in a great situation. I look for both players to be NFL studs within two years.

 

[Biabreakable]

Im trying to get Michael Clayton right now.

I target any player that I think can improve my team even if it is my team depth as long as I think I can get that player at a price that causes my team to improve.

 

[JayMan]

Picking from the 1.11 spot... I'm not looking at the 5RBs, 3QBs, 1TE, 1WR (Jackson) that will probably be gone...

From this, considering the dropoff in talent at the QB spot (not to mention that we only start one) and the weakness of the WRs class... I'm probably leaning toward Jerious Norwood / Maurice Drew / Brian Calhoun (in that particular order)... even Marcedes Lewis or Super Mario Williams (our league rewards 6 pts for sack - nothing for tackles - thus his appeal)... the WRs crew of SinMoss and Holmes (who's dropping like a fly) doesn't seem to interesting to me... if I would only drink Brandon Marshall's kool-aid (for later rounds obviously)...

I'd love to get feedback from others - to see where they stand on the "lesser" rookies... not the usual Bush/Maroney/Williams/Addai/White talks...

 

[Zaphod]

I still think Vince Young is an amazing talent and would like to have him on my team. He could see significant time on the field this season, so you probably won't have to wait too long to see your pick in action.

I also really like Chad Jackson. Don't believe all the UF WR stuff. This guy is not a product of the system. Check his measurables, he is prototypical NFL material.

Long term, I think Gregg Lee WR from PITT could be a nice down the road surprise. Comes from a strong system of WRs. Had a down year, which may color some people's short term vision, but has a lot of upside.

 

[pyite76]

Picking from the 1.11 spot... I'm not looking at the 5RBs, 3QBs, 1TE, 1WR (Jackson) that will probably be gone...

From this, considering the dropoff in talent at the QB spot (not to mention that we only start one) and the weakness of the WRs class... I'm probably leaning toward Jerious Norwood / Maurice Drew / Brian Calhoun (in that particular order)... even Marcedes Lewis or Super Mario Williams (our league rewards 6 pts for sack - nothing for tackles - thus his appeal)... the WRs crew of SinMoss and Holmes (who's dropping like a fly) doesn't seem to interesting to me... if I would only drink Brandon Marshall's kool-aid (for later rounds obviously)...

I'd love to get feedback from others - to see where they stand on the "lesser" rookies... not the usual Bush/Maroney/Williams/Addai/White talks...

i'd go with Norwood over the other backs you mentioned. his situation seems like the most promising to me. I would take a gamble on Marshall in the second round though.

 

[Biabreakable]

Oh this discussion is about rookie players?

My rookie drafts are allready done.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I still think Vince Young is an amazing talent and would like to have him on my team. He could see significant time on the field this season, so you probably won't have to wait too long to see your pick in action.

I also really like Chad Jackson. Don't believe all the UF WR stuff. This guy is not a product of the system. Check his measurables, he is prototypical NFL material.

Long term, I think Gregg Lee WR from PITT could be a nice down the road surprise. Comes from a strong system of WRs. Had a down year, which may color some people's short term vision, but has a lot of upside.

Wow, hadn't heard that name again since the Bloom 100.....It would make for a nice story, but he's got a tough road to hoe to even make the team.

Nice sleeper for sure, though.

I'm all about gobbling up RBs early then taking some flyers on talent in a Dynasty Rook draft.

I grabbed DA Williams every time I could, and the same with Drew. Norwood/Drew/Calhoun all about on par - I agree with the above post.

Later - look at Cedric Humes (Va Tech) at Pittsburgh. Could fill the Bettis role if Staley or Haynes doesn't cut it.

As for some sleepers - don't sleep on Travis Wilson in Cleveland (WR). The door is wide open for a WR2 to step up and take a starting job Week 1 opposite Joe Jurevicius.

Another dark sleeper is TE Jeff King - another Va Tech graduate - and he can really do the job. A 3-down guy who can get open and score some short TDs. Carolina recognized his talents and is working him out as an H-back as well. The Panthers don't have much at TE or HB, so I say he's a definite for the team and would be a nice later pickup.

PKs sometimes come cheap too - everyone knows NE has Gostkowski in the 4th, but the Bears did bring in another kicker after the draft. Picking Josh Huston with a late late pick could be a free PK for your team should you need one.

Lastly, another deep RB - Gerald Riggs, Jr. He went undrafted and he's in the Dolphins camp. Miami has Ronnie Brown and then the depth chart reads Sammy Morris, Travis Minor, then Fred Beasley. Excited? I know I am. Seriously - if Riggs can show he belongs, he could move in to get some work for Miami even this season. I would be fairly comfortable in saying he makes the team.

 

[FTRWRTR]

I think leinart will be the next peyton manning meaning leinart will be the next ff god at qb

I still can't believe riggs didn't get drafted

 

[JayMan]

I still think Vince Young is an amazing talent and would like to have him on my team.  He could see significant time on the field this season, so you probably won't have to wait too long to see your pick in action.

I also really like Chad Jackson.  Don't believe all the UF WR stuff.  This guy is not a product of the system.  Check his measurables, he is prototypical NFL material.

Long term, I think Gregg Lee WR from PITT could be a nice down the road surprise.  Comes from a strong system of WRs.  Had a down year, which may color some people's short term vision, but has a lot of upside.

Wow, hadn't heard that name again since the Bloom 100.....It would make for a nice story, but he's got a tough road to hoe to even make the team.

Nice sleeper for sure, though.

I'm all about gobbling up RBs early then taking some flyers on talent in a Dynasty Rook draft.

I grabbed DA Williams every time I could, and the same with Drew. Norwood/Drew/Calhoun all about on par - I agree with the above post.

Later - look at Cedric Humes (Va Tech) at Pittsburgh. Could fill the Bettis role if Staley or Haynes doesn't cut it.

As for some sleepers - don't sleep on Travis Wilson in Cleveland (WR). The door is wide open for a WR2 to step up and take a starting job Week 1 opposite Joe Jurevicius.

Another dark sleeper is TE Jeff King - another Va Tech graduate - and he can really do the job. A 3-down guy who can get open and score some short TDs. Carolina recognized his talents and is working him out as an H-back as well. The Panthers don't have much at TE or HB, so I say he's a definite for the team and would be a nice later pickup.

PKs sometimes come cheap too - everyone knows NE has Gostkowski in the 4th, but the Bears did bring in another kicker after the draft. Picking Josh Huston with a late late pick could be a free PK for your team should you need one.

Lastly, another deep RB - Gerald Riggs, Jr. He went undrafted and he's in the Dolphins camp. Miami has Ronnie Brown and then the depth chart reads Sammy Morris, Travis Minor, then Fred Beasley. Excited? I know I am. Seriously - if Riggs can show he belongs, he could move in to get some work for Miami even this season. I would be fairly comfortable in saying he makes the team.

Interesting post Jeff - as usualI'm wondering if you had only one to choose between Norwood/Calhoun/Drew - for long term perspective (i.e. able to keep them on the bench this year and probably the next one also) who would it be? From your post - it seems that Drew would be your choice... How so? in front of Norwood... don't you think that much of Norwood's appeal comes from his situation in Atlanta?

Interesting point on Travis Wilson - glad you mentioned him - I always tried to get some info/feedback from knowlegable members - since he seems to have the body type required in the NFL - the QB play and injury last year cost him big in my opinion - just remember '04 with Clayton and Jones around... if you had to gamble between him and Brandon Marshall, who would it be?

 

[jdoggydogg]

An owner has both Manning QBs in my league. Cap issues will force him to trade Eli or drop him. I think he'll take Andre Johnson or Jason Witten from me in a trade. I can afford to lose Witten because of his high salary and I have Heath Miller.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I still think Vince Young is an amazing talent and would like to have him on my team. He could see significant time on the field this season, so you probably won't have to wait too long to see your pick in action.

I'd love to nab Young. He may go for too much in my auction draft, though.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Picking from the 1.11 spot... I'm not looking at the 5RBs, 3QBs, 1TE, 1WR (Jackson) that will probably be gone...

From this, considering the dropoff in talent at the QB spot (not to mention that we only start one) and the weakness of the WRs class... I'm probably leaning toward Jerious Norwood / Maurice Drew / Brian Calhoun (in that particular order)... even Marcedes Lewis or Super Mario Williams (our league rewards 6 pts for sack - nothing for tackles - thus his appeal)... the WRs crew of SinMoss and Holmes (who's dropping like a fly) doesn't seem to interesting to me... if I would only drink Brandon Marshall's kool-aid (for later rounds obviously)...

I'd love to get feedback from others - to see where they stand on the "lesser" rookies... not the usual Bush/Maroney/Williams/Addai/White talks...

i'd go with Norwood over the other backs you mentioned. his situation seems like the most promising to me. I would take a gamble on Marshall in the second round though.

I agree. Norwood will be a steal in some drafts.

 

[EBF]

I like these values right now:

Antonio Gates - Gates is perhaps the most dominant player in the NFL right now and can usually be had in the 2nd-3rd round of dynasty drafts. This makes some sense given that there are a lot of good TEs out there these days, but I still think Gates is a very solid pick.

Anquan Boldin - In terms of pure talent, Boldin might be one of the top 2-3 WRs in the NFL. His health issues are a very legitimate concern, but make no mistake, this guy is an absolute beast. More yards/game than Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, Torry Holt, Marvin Harrison, and Larry Fitzgerald last season.

Hines Ward - I have Ward on a few of my teams and I can honestly say there are only 5-6 WRs in the league that I'd trade him for. A proven WR1 on a productive offense with a great QB is a very valuable commodity. The great thing about Ward is that he's very low risk. He's kind of like a superior Rod Smith.

Ben Roethlisberger - Roethlisberger is possibly the most gifted passer to enter the league since Peyton Manning. Palmer and Eli play in better systems, but Roethlisberger is no slouch. A limited number of opportunities has kept his value fairly low, but I think he's a great dynasty QB and a value pick at almost any point around his ADP. I have him on every one of my dynasty teams.

Chris Perry - Perry has more talent than almost every RB available after the first few rounds of dynasty drafts. If he can stay healthy, his value could explode in the next few years ala Shaun Alexander, LaMont Jordan, and Larry Johnson (former backups). He's kind of like Cedric Benson or DeAngelo Williams at a fraction of the cost.

Laveranues Coles - Coles is still only 28, and is only two years removed from top 15 status. He could easily bounce back now that Edwards is gone and the Jets have some real QB options. Better yet, he's their only real weapon in the passing game.

Antonio Bryant - Bryant has been productive at every stop of his career and is now poised to be the #1 WR for an improving team. He's already a good player and he's plenty young to improve. I think he could be the next Eddie Kennison, or maybe even the next Joe Horn.

Ryan Moats - Moats was my favorite of last year's second tier backs. He did well as a rookie and could be a valuable player down the line, although his lack of power may relegate him to RBBC duties. Nevertheless, a decent gamble at his ADP.

Roddy White - White is possibly more talented than Reggie Brown and Mark Clayton, and he comes at a fraction of the cost. He's old for a second year player, but he has a very solid combination of size and speed. He could surprise people and is worth a shot.

Matt Schaub - Schaub will become a starter. When that happens, his value will go up.

Marcedes Lewis - Lewis is a 12th round pick who should be a 6th-8th round pick in the next few years. His value has almost nowhere to go but up and he's being overlooked this year. There are several young TEs who are good buys in dynasty leagues. Heath Miller, Ben Troupe, Ben Watson, and Alex Smith also offer nice value.

Mark Bradley and Vincent Jackson - These guys might have talent and might eventually get an opportunity to show it. They represent solid value in the teen rounds.

Derek Hagan - This guy is a 15th-17th round pick who could easily be a top 20 WR in two years. You have to love the value he offers at his ADP when compared to Chad Jackson and Santonio Holmes, who are only moderately more likely to succeed.

William Green - Green is the ultimate buy low opportunity. He has his act together, is still young, and will be a free agent after next season. He'll never be the next LT, but he could be a quality starter if he can land on a team with a real coaching staff and a decent supporting cast. If he becomes a Steeler, a Jet, or a Giant next year, his value will skyrocket.

Travis Taylor - Taylor will probably never be great and may not even be good, but he could end up as the #1 WR in Minnesota. I like him as a late flyer.

Justin Fargas - I like Fargas as a bargain bin type. He looked great in the 2003 preseason and is one of the most physically gifted RBs in the league. He has shown flashes in the past and could be a real surprise if he can stay healthy and get some opportunities.

I'd say most of the players on this list will increase in value at some point over the next few years.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I like these values right now:

Antonio Gates - Gates is perhaps the most dominant player in the NFL right now and can usually be had in the 2nd-3rd round of dynasty drafts. This makes some sense given that there are a lot of good TEs out there these days, but I still think Gates is a very solid pick.

Anquan Boldin - In terms of pure talent, Boldin might be one of the top 2-3 WRs in the NFL. His health issues are a very legitimate concern, but make no mistake, this guy is an absolute beast. More yards/game than Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, Torry Holt, Marvin Harrison, and Larry Fitzgerald last season.

Hines Ward - I have Ward on a few of my teams and I can honestly say there are only 5-6 WRs in the league that I'd trade him for. A proven WR1 on a productive offense with a great QB is a very valuable commodity. The great thing about Ward is that he's very low risk. He's kind of like a superior Rod Smith.

Ben Roethlisberger - Roethlisberger is possibly the most gifted passer to enter the league since Peyton Manning. Palmer and Eli play in better systems, but Roethlisberger is no slouch. A limited number of opportunities has kept his value fairly low, but I think he's a great dynasty QB and a value pick at almost any point around his ADP. I have him on every one of my dynasty teams.

Chris Perry - Perry has more talent than almost every RB available after the first few rounds of dynasty drafts. If he can stay healthy, his value could explode in the next few years ala Shaun Alexander, LaMont Jordan, and Larry Johnson (former backups). He's kind of like Cedric Benson or DeAngelo Williams at a fraction of the cost.

Laveranues Coles - Coles is still only 28, and is only two years removed from top 15 status. He could easily bounce back now that Edwards is gone and the Jets have some real QB options. Better yet, he's their only real weapon in the passing game.

Antonio Bryant - Bryant has been productive at every stop of his career and is now poised to be the #1 WR for an improving team. He's already a good player and he's plenty young to improve. I think he could be the next Eddie Kennison, or maybe even the next Joe Horn.

Ryan Moats - Moats was my favorite of last year's second tier backs. He did well as a rookie and could be a valuable player down the line, although his lack of power may relegate him to RBBC duties. Nevertheless, a decent gamble at his ADP.

Roddy White - White is possibly more talented than Reggie Brown and Mark Clayton, and he comes at a fraction of the cost. He's old for a second year player, but he has a very solid combination of size and speed. He could surprise people and is worth a shot.

Matt Schaub - Schaub will become a starter. When that happens, his value will go up.

Marcedes Lewis - Lewis is a 12th round pick who should be a 6th-8th round pick in the next few years. His value has almost nowhere to go but up and he's being overlooked this year. There are several young TEs who are good buys in dynasty leagues. Heath Miller, Ben Troupe, Ben Watson, and Alex Smith also offer nice value.

Mark Bradley and Vincent Jackson - These guys might have talent and might eventually get an opportunity to show it. They represent solid value in the teen rounds.

Derek Hagan - This guy is a 15th-17th round pick who could easily be a top 20 WR in two years. You have to love the value he offers at his ADP when compared to Chad Jackson and Santonio Holmes, who are only moderately more likely to succeed.

William Green - Green is the ultimate buy low opportunity. He has his act together, is still young, and will be a free agent after next season. He'll never be the next LT, but he could be a quality starter if he can land on a team with a real coaching staff and a decent supporting cast. If he becomes a Steeler, a Jet, or a Giant next year, his value will skyrocket.

Travis Taylor - Taylor will probably never be great and may not even be good, but he could end up as the #1 WR in Minnesota. I like him as a late flyer.

Justin Fargas - I like Fargas as a bargain bin type. He looked great in the 2003 preseason and is one of the most physically gifted RBs in the league. He has shown flashes in the past and could be a real surprise if he can stay healthy and get some opportunities.

I'd say most of the players on this list will increase in value at some point over the next few years.

Nice list. But I wouldn't hold my breath on an Atlanta WR. Clearly, he's a guy with big potential. But you'd have to temper your expectations.

 

[Armando]

Roddy White - White is possibly more talented than Reggie Brown and Mark Clayton, and he comes at a fraction of the cost. He's old for a second year player, but he has a very solid combination of size and speed. He could surprise people and is worth a shot.

I'd definitely take him over Brown. Clayton's already so polished so I'd have a hard time taking Roddy over him. As you mentioned, he comes much much cheaper in a dynasty league.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I still think Vince Young is an amazing talent and would like to have him on my team. He could see significant time on the field this season, so you probably won't have to wait too long to see your pick in action.

I also really like Chad Jackson. Don't believe all the UF WR stuff. This guy is not a product of the system. Check his measurables, he is prototypical NFL material.

Long term, I think Gregg Lee WR from PITT could be a nice down the road surprise. Comes from a strong system of WRs. Had a down year, which may color some people's short term vision, but has a lot of upside.

Wow, hadn't heard that name again since the Bloom 100.....It would make for a nice story, but he's got a tough road to hoe to even make the team.

Nice sleeper for sure, though.

I'm all about gobbling up RBs early then taking some flyers on talent in a Dynasty Rook draft.

I grabbed DA Williams every time I could, and the same with Drew. Norwood/Drew/Calhoun all about on par - I agree with the above post.

Later - look at Cedric Humes (Va Tech) at Pittsburgh. Could fill the Bettis role if Staley or Haynes doesn't cut it.

As for some sleepers - don't sleep on Travis Wilson in Cleveland (WR). The door is wide open for a WR2 to step up and take a starting job Week 1 opposite Joe Jurevicius.

Another dark sleeper is TE Jeff King - another Va Tech graduate - and he can really do the job. A 3-down guy who can get open and score some short TDs. Carolina recognized his talents and is working him out as an H-back as well. The Panthers don't have much at TE or HB, so I say he's a definite for the team and would be a nice later pickup.

PKs sometimes come cheap too - everyone knows NE has Gostkowski in the 4th, but the Bears did bring in another kicker after the draft. Picking Josh Huston with a late late pick could be a free PK for your team should you need one.

Lastly, another deep RB - Gerald Riggs, Jr. He went undrafted and he's in the Dolphins camp. Miami has Ronnie Brown and then the depth chart reads Sammy Morris, Travis Minor, then Fred Beasley. Excited? I know I am. Seriously - if Riggs can show he belongs, he could move in to get some work for Miami even this season. I would be fairly comfortable in saying he makes the team.

Interesting post Jeff - as usual

I hope that's a good thing....

I'm wondering if you had only one to choose between Norwood/Calhoun/Drew - for long term perspective (i.e. able to keep them on the bench this year and probably the next one also) who would it be? From your post - it seems that Drew would be your choice... How so? in front of Norwood... don't you think that much of Norwood's appeal comes from his situation in Atlanta?

Forcing my hand, are we?I like Drew a little bit more - but I think both are capable. Drew showed more in college, but I didn't see terribly much of Norwood in action. I think both clubs (Jax/Atl) are run first offenses, but I think Drew has a little more to offer.

It's quite close, but I think Freddy Taylor is more likely to hand over the reins to Drew than Dunn is to Norwood.

Also, Atlanta has a running back posing as a QB, who steals yardage and TDs.

I'd give it to Drew in a close call.

Interesting point on Travis Wilson - glad you mentioned him - I always tried to get some info/feedback from knowlegable members - since he seems to have the body type required in the NFL - the QB play and injury last year cost him big in my opinion - just remember '04 with Clayton and Jones around... if you had to gamble between him and Brandon Marshall, who would it be?

Another tough one. I'd go with Marshall because I think he's more talented (but not by a great margin), and I think that usually rises to the top.Even if you disagree - I think Denver has a better QB future with Plummer now and Cutler later than Cleveland and Frye. I like Frye, but I like Cutler's arm more, and Plummer can certainly throw it long if need be - he just needs someone better than Lelie to reel it in. Also Marshall will have more opportunity once Rod Smith hangs it up - Braylon Edwards isn't going anywhere soon, and Joe Jurevicius is only 31.

So I'd pick Marshall, but the value pick is Wilson later in your rookie draft. Hopefully you can grab both....

 

[el centro]

I like these values right now:

Ben Roethlisberger - Roethlisberger is possibly the most gifted passer to enter the league since Peyton Manning. Palmer and Eli play in better systems, but Roethlisberger is no slouch. A limited number of opportunities has kept his value fairly low, but I think he's a great dynasty QB and a value pick at almost any point around his ADP. I have him on every one of my dynasty teams.

:blushing: Is this man love? Or football man-love? He's like listed in every post you've ever written... Suddenly I'm hearing Whitesnake in the background

 

[-OZ-]

Rookies only, relatively below the radar:

1. Greg Jennings - could be the #1 WR in GB in a couple years

2. Willie Reid - might be better than Holmes, especially with the problems

3. Brad Smith - not high, but as a late round sleeper (just above Reid)

4. Tamba Hali - IDP, only person that seems to overrate him is Carl Peterson, the rest of the world seems to underrate.

 

[Gambler]

Dynasty leagues are confusing to me. If you can trade draft picks why not trade them all for established players? Or that isn't how it works?

Enlighten me here.

 

[-OZ-]

Dynasty leagues are confusing to me. If you can trade draft picks why not trade them all for established players? Or that isn't how it works?

Enlighten me here.

Sure you can, and many people do, but the trade values depends on the league.If you can get LT for 1.01, it's probably worth it, but who would give that?

Same idea for the rest of the draft, but there can be great value in trading a late 1st for a proven QB or WR. Problem is, most people are thinking the same way.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

Dynasty leagues are confusing to me. If you can trade draft picks why not trade them all for established players? Or that isn't how it works?

Enlighten me here.

That might work for a year or two, but eventually you have a team filled with absolutely worthless players and nothing to even build on for the future.The most you can realistically expect from a rookie draft is one decent fantasy performer, and you may not get that. Depending on your league it can take a LONG time to turn around a totally vet team that has passed it's prime.

RBs in particular don't last very long in terms of productive fantasy years.

 

[Tick]

I won't list the early guys, since you only get them if you get an early pick. The draft goes about the same in every league through pick 11 or so.

Later on, I targeted Brodie Croyle and Leonard Pope.

IDP-wise, I thought Chad Greenway, DeMeco Ryans, and Rocky McIntosh were undervalued.

Results:

Z22: 1.08 Young, 1.12 Hawk, 2.08 Greenway, 2.12 Pope, 3.09 Croyle, 5.09 Avant, 6.08 Keiaho, 6.12 Gostkowski

Z34: 1.03 Maroney, 3.03 Ryans, 4.02 McIntosh

Z39: 1.02 DWilliams, 2.11 Sims, 3.02 Croyle, 4.11 Hass, 5.02 BWilliams, 6.11 OJacobs

 

[EBF]

I like these values right now:

Ben Roethlisberger - Roethlisberger is possibly the most gifted passer to enter the league since Peyton Manning. Palmer and Eli play in better systems, but Roethlisberger is no slouch. A limited number of opportunities has kept his value fairly low, but I think he's a great dynasty QB and a value pick at almost any point around his ADP. I have him on every one of my dynasty teams.

:blushing: Is this man love? Or football man-love? He's like listed in every post you've ever written... Suddenly I'm hearing Whitesnake in the background

It's all in the stats.

 

[EBF]

Rookies only, relatively below the radar:

1. Greg Jennings - could be the #1 WR in GB in a couple years

2. Willie Reid - might be better than Holmes, especially with the problems

3. Brad Smith - not high, but as a late round sleeper (just above Reid)

4. Tamba Hali - IDP, only person that seems to overrate him is Carl Peterson, the rest of the world seems to underrate.

I agree re: Willie Reid. No one seems to have noticed that he was drafted on the first day.I'd also add Rocky McIntosh and Bernard Pollard to the IDP list. Those guys look like players to me.

 

[EBF]

Nice list. But I wouldn't hold my breath on an Atlanta WR. Clearly, he's a guy with big potential. But you'd have to temper your expectations.

I don't necessarily agree. The future isn't bound by the past. If White is a good player, then it will show in the statistics.

 

[Buckna]

Troy Williamson is someone I think is very undervalued right now. I don't think anyone expects him to contribute much this season (myself included) and therefore his purchase price is pretty low. Guy is a former top 10 pick and quite young. If I was a team rebuilding I would probably be targeting him.

I would say Mike Williams as well, but I'm a little afraid of the news coming out of Detroit about his work ethic and weight problems.

 

[biggamer3]

am i the only one that thinks Ciatric fason can be a productive player either this year or next?

 

[cr8f]

Rookies only, relatively below the radar:

1. Greg Jennings - could be the #1 WR in GB in a couple years

2. Willie Reid - might be better than Holmes, especially with the problems

3. Brad Smith - not high, but as a late round sleeper (just above Reid)

4. Tamba Hali - IDP, only person that seems to overrate him is Carl Peterson, the rest of the world seems to underrate.

Yes but who will br the QB in Titletown?Mark Clayton late rounds.

Chad Jackson.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Nice list. But I wouldn't hold my breath on an Atlanta WR. Clearly, he's a guy with big potential. But you'd have to temper your expectations.

I don't necessarily agree. The future isn't bound by the past. If White is a good player, then it will show in the statistics.

I don't have a problem with White. I have a problem with the guy that's throwing the ball to him. It's not like Michael Jenkins is a slouch.

 

[EBF]

Nice list. But I wouldn't hold my breath on an Atlanta WR. Clearly, he's a guy with big potential. But you'd have to temper your expectations.

I don't necessarily agree. The future isn't bound by the past. If White is a good player, then it will show in the statistics.

I don't have a problem with White. I have a problem with the guy that's throwing the ball to him. It's not like Michael Jenkins is a slouch.

Fair enough, but keep in mind that we're talking dynasty. A lot can happen to White's QB situation in the next 5 years.

 

[BL Titans]

I'd move Lendale White up the list of RB's quite a bit .... I think Tennessee has got something there, and with Brown unhappy, Henry an over 30 drug rehab RB ........

 

[jdoggydogg]

I'd move Lendale White up the list of RB's quite a bit .... I think Tennessee has got something there, and with Brown unhappy, Henry an over 30 drug rehab RB ........

I agree. I think White has a chip on his shoulder.

 

[Spike]

am i the only one that thinks Ciatric fason can be a productive player either this year or next?

Yes.

 

[jdoggydogg]

An owner has both Manning QBs in my league. Cap issues will force him to trade Eli or drop him. I think he'll take Andre Johnson or Jason Witten from me in a trade. I can afford to lose Witten because of his high salary and I have Heath Miller.

Awwwwwwwwww yeah. Just traded Andre for Eli straight up in my Dynasty league.

 

[malice]

Justin Fargas - I like Fargas as a bargain bin type. He looked great in the 2003 preseason and is one of the most physically gifted RBs in the league. He has shown flashes in the past and could be a real surprise if he can stay healthy and get some opportunities.

As much as I'd like to agree, I've drank his Kool-Aid in past years, and I just don't see it. He was given the opportunity to step up as the go-to guy before L.Jordan came into the picture and with 3rd downs last year and has failed in both areas. If he can't convert 3rd and short, I don't like his long term outlook. This is his put up or pack up year.

 

[Armando]

am i the only one that thinks Ciatric fason can be a productive player either this year or next?

Most likely.While I wouldn't want either, I'd take Eric Shelton over him. At least we haven't seen him suck at the NFL level.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Two words, Ben Gay

 

[EBF]

Justin Fargas - I like Fargas as a bargain bin type. He looked great in the 2003 preseason and is one of the most physically gifted RBs in the league. He has shown flashes in the past and could be a real surprise if he can stay healthy and get some opportunities.

As much as I'd like to agree, I've drank his Kool-Aid in past years, and I just don't see it. He was given the opportunity to step up as the go-to guy before L.Jordan came into the picture and with 3rd downs last year and has failed in both areas. If he can't convert 3rd and short, I don't like his long term outlook. This is his put up or pack up year.

There's no risk in the 20th round.