Dynasty Prospects for Addai (1 Viewer)

[The Ghost of Common]

The FBG Dynasty rankings have Addai ranked out of the top 10.

At any rate, I'm doing my first dynasty draft this year and have fifth pick and will almost certainly be targeting Addai here, but I'm wondering if I am missing something since FBG has him ranked so low.

Can anyone shed some light here?

If the feeling is a consensus it might even be smart for me to trade down to pick him up at 9 or 10. I'm not sure.

Again - just wondering why I'm so high on him and going against the FBG expert consensus.

Thanks

 

[BroadwayG]

I'm wit you, Ghost.

 

[djcolts]

From what I've read in past posts, the main reasons were:

1. There was more doubt about Addai's talent, which the theory goes is more important for rating players in dynasty than being in the Colts' offense (situation).

2. Addai's lack of durability in college - and hasn't proved to be an every-down back yet.

 

[Keith Lewis]

I seem to recall that Addai was seen as the better short term player over the likes of Bush/Maroney/Williams but to also keep in mind that the talent isn't as much with Addai as the others listed. The fact that Addai excelled last season was somewhat expected and not a surprise, I'm not a big D. Williams fan and he hasn't proven anything but I don't believe that Addai should be above him in dynasty rankings because the expected has occurred.

 

[sholditch]

Addai is the model system guy. He was never great at LSU but had success running in a good system that did not require he carry a full load. Essentially the same system that gave us Dom Davis, cept different coaches. offensive philosophy didn't change that much under Miles. Anywho, I just have always looked at him as an average back who has had the good luck to play in great offenses with great offensive lines.

I won't say that he's any better or any worse a prospect than any RB in the 2006 draft not named Reggie Bush, and truth be told I'm not sure he isn't a better prospect there. However, I am avoiding him like the plague because he is still relatively unproven. I mean, I know he can get me 1,000 yards splitting carries, but that's all I know.

The transition from college to pro is something that I simply don't know enough about to accurately predict. I thought Caddy would be a top-5 back almost immediately, and was rather unimpressed with MJD. All that to say take this with a grain of salt, but in college I felt that Addai was at least a tier below all the other big prospects besides LenDale. I still think that both Maroney and D-Will have more potential, but whether or not that potential actually translates to NFL numbers I have no idea. I think you could certainly find a pick with more upside at 1.6, but it's up to you whether you want something reliable or incredible.

 

[BroadwayG]

What has me most concerned is that all three guys have him ranked below a guy who hasn't played a single down in the NFL yet.

 

[bostonfred]

Pasquino: Joseph Addai #31

I don't get this at all.

 

[Ford Prefect]

Pasquino: Joseph Addai #31I don't get this at all.

He has him at 17 for dynasty and 13 for redraft.

 

[gianmarco]

Pasquino: Joseph Addai #31I don't get this at all.

He has him at 17 for dynasty and 13 for redraft.

17 + 13 = 31?

 

[BroadwayG]

Pasquino: Joseph Addai #31I don't get this at all.

He has him at 17 for dynasty and 13 for redraft.

17 is the average of the three staff rankings. Pasquino has him at 31(D) and 20®.

 

[eefflrat]

in a PPR Addai is a top talent, hands down. I don't care if it's the "system." He'll be in that system a few more years. A few weeksgo there were concerns that the Colts were going to sign a FA, and Dungy said he wanted to still employ a RBBC. Now I read that Dungy wants to get this kid more balls in the passing game, and in Dungy's words ""I think we're going to see much, much more of Joseph Addai and I think he's going to get better and better."

10 catches in the Super Bowl, he runs hard, I can't see why he isn't a top 5 talent. I don't understand people saying "he's not proven" or "he hasn't played a full season" I don't care about that. He's a very good RB in a superb situation to produce, I am all for the top 5 billing.

 

[bostonfred]

Pasquino: Joseph Addai #31

I don't get this at all.

He has him at 17 for dynasty and 13 for redraft.

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/v...mp;howrecent=14Dynasty Overall Rankings

1 RB LaDainian Tomlinson, SD 1 1 1 1.0 1.0 1.0

2 RB Steven Jackson, STL 2 2 2 2.0 2.0 2.0

3 RB Larry Johnson, KC 3 3 6 4.0 3.0 3.0

4 RB Frank Gore, SF 7 6 3 5.3 6.0 6.0

5 RB Brian Westbrook, PHI 4 7 7 6.0 7.0 7.0

6 RB Reggie Bush, NO 11 4 4 6.3 4.0 4.0

7 RB Willie Parker, PIT 15 5 9 9.7 9.0 9.0

8 RB Shaun Alexander, SEA 5 19 8 10.7 8.0 8.0

9 RB Adrian Peterson, MIN 21 10 5 12.0 10.0 10.0

10 RB Rudi Johnson, CIN 8 14 15 12.3 14.0 14.0

11 RB Clinton Portis, WAS 6 15 17 12.7 15.0 15.0

12 RB Laurence Maroney, NE 18 12 10 13.3 12.0 12.0

13 RB Willis McGahee, BAL 14 16 13 14.3 14.0 14.0

13 WR Chad Johnson, CIN 9 13 21 14.3 13.0 13.0

13 QB Peyton Manning, IND 12 8 23 14.3 12.0 12.0

16 WR Steve Smith, CAR 13 9 28 16.7 13.0 13.0

17 RB Joseph Addai, IND 31 11 12 18.0 12.0 12.0

First three numbers after the team name are the rankings by Pasquino, Bloom, Smith. Pasquino's were last updated on 6/30.

 

[The Ghost of Common]

Being at 31 seems preposterous to me.

I'm probly not as well versed in fantasy as PAsquino, but I've been in multiple leagues for 12 years now. I'd like to think I can gauge players at some level. If I'm considering a player at 5, and an "expert" is at 31, it just makes me question myself.

Let's trade jobs.

If Addai finishes closer to 5th than he does 31, you take my paralegal job, and I'll write and talk about football for a living

jk

 

[Couch Potato]

Seems to be a little confusion here. People are talking OVERALL and RB rankings without specifying which they mean, and it's misleading others.

Pasquino's OVERALL ranking for Addai is 31, his RB ranking is 17.

Addai's OVERALL 7-day ranking (including Pasquino, Bloom and Smith) is 17 and is 10 excluding Pasquino.

Addai's RB 7-day ranking (including Pasquino, Bloom and Smith) is 14 and is still 10 excluding Pasquino.

With only 3 staff guys chiming in, Pasquino's outlier ranking skews the whole thing considerably.

I think The Bloom/Smith OVERALL and RB rankings excluding Pasquino of 10 and 10 are pretty close to what you'd find as a consensus in the FF world, though maybe a couple spots low for my taste.

 

[The Ghost of Common]

Seems to be a little confusion here. People are talking OVERALL and RB rankings without specifying which they mean, and it's misleading others.Pasquino's OVERALL ranking for Addai is 31, his RB ranking is 17.Addai's OVERALL 7-day ranking (including Pasquino, Bloom and Smith) is 17 and is 10 excluding Pasquino.Addai's RB 7-day ranking (including Pasquino, Bloom and Smith) is 14 and is still 10 excluding Pasquino.With only 3 staff guys chiming in, Pasquino's outlier ranking skews the whole thing considerably.I think The Bloom/Smith OVERALL and RB rankings excluding Pasquino of 14 and 10 are pretty close to what you'd find as a consensus in the FF world, though maybe a couple spots low for my taste.

 

[bostonfred]

Being at 31 seems preposterous to me.I'm probly not as well versed in fantasy as PAsquino, but I've been in multiple leagues for 12 years now. I'd like to think I can gauge players at some level. If I'm considering a player at 5, and an "expert" is at 31, it just makes me question myself.Let's trade jobs.If Addai finishes closer to 5th than he does 31, you take my paralegal job, and I'll write and talk about football for a living jk

This trade is not fair for the rest of the people in your league.

 

[relic]

The FBG Dynasty rankings have Addai ranked out of the top 10.At any rate, I'm doing my first dynasty draft this year and have fifth pick and will almost certainly be targeting Addai here, but I'm wondering if I am missing something since FBG has him ranked so low.Can anyone shed some light here?If the feeling is a consensus it might even be smart for me to trade down to pick him up at 9 or 10. I'm not sure.Again - just wondering why I'm so high on him and going against the FBG expert consensus.Thanks

Rankings aside, if you want him on your team then stay at 1.05 and take him there. In an initial dynasty draft with PPR scoring he will be gone by 1.09.

 

[Couch Potato]

Can anyone shed some light here?If the feeling is a consensus it might even be smart for me to trade down to pick him up at 9 or 10. I'm not sure.Again - just wondering why I'm so high on him and going against the FBG expert consensus.Thanks

To follow up on my last post, in the initial dynasty drafts I've seen or been in, if you trade down to 9 or 10 you'll miss out. He's been going in the 6-8 range. Remember, the FBG number is a very small sampling of 3 individuals, nothing more. The term 'expert', too, is a matter of opinion based on your own evaluation of each individual.

 

[Couch Potato]

Being at 31 seems preposterous to me.I'm probly not as well versed in fantasy as PAsquino, but I've been in multiple leagues for 12 years now. I'd like to think I can gauge players at some level. If I'm considering a player at 5, and an "expert" is at 31, it just makes me question myself.Let's trade jobs.If Addai finishes closer to 5th than he does 31, you take my paralegal job, and I'll write and talk about football for a living jk

This trade is not fair for the rest of the people in your league.

but if you throw in each other's 2008 1sts, it'll have my approval. Right BF?

 

[snorlax]

The FBG Dynasty rankings have Addai ranked out of the top 10.At any rate, I'm doing my first dynasty draft this year and have fifth pick and will almost certainly be targeting Addai here, but I'm wondering if I am missing something since FBG has him ranked so low.Can anyone shed some light here?If the feeling is a consensus it might even be smart for me to trade down to pick him up at 9 or 10. I'm not sure.Again - just wondering why I'm so high on him and going against the FBG expert consensus.Thanks

Rankings aside, if you want him on your team then stay at 1.05 and take him there. In an initial dynasty draft with PPR scoring he will be gone by 1.09.

If I were targetting Addai, I would trade down to 1.06 in a PPR league, as LT, LJ, Bush, Gore, and SJax should all be gone in the top 5 picks. In a non-PPR league, I don't think it's unreasonable to take Addai before Bush, but that probably won't happen in most leagues anyway.

 

[bostonfred]

Being at 31 seems preposterous to me.I'm probly not as well versed in fantasy as PAsquino, but I've been in multiple leagues for 12 years now. I'd like to think I can gauge players at some level. If I'm considering a player at 5, and an "expert" is at 31, it just makes me question myself.Let's trade jobs.If Addai finishes closer to 5th than he does 31, you take my paralegal job, and I'll write and talk about football for a living jk

This trade is not fair for the rest of the people in your league.

but if you throw in each other's 2008 1sts, it'll have my approval. Right BF?

Collusion! Collusion!

 

[bostonfred]

The FBG Dynasty rankings have Addai ranked out of the top 10.At any rate, I'm doing my first dynasty draft this year and have fifth pick and will almost certainly be targeting Addai here, but I'm wondering if I am missing something since FBG has him ranked so low.Can anyone shed some light here?If the feeling is a consensus it might even be smart for me to trade down to pick him up at 9 or 10. I'm not sure.Again - just wondering why I'm so high on him and going against the FBG expert consensus.Thanks

Rankings aside, if you want him on your team then stay at 1.05 and take him there. In an initial dynasty draft with PPR scoring he will be gone by 1.09.

If I were targetting Addai, I would trade down to 1.06 in a PPR league, as LT, LJ, Bush, Gore, and SJax should all be gone in the top 5 picks. In a non-PPR league, I don't think it's unreasonable to take Addai before Bush, but that probably won't happen in most leagues anyway.

I'd take Addai ahead of Gore, and way ahead of Bush in non ppr

 

[Couch Potato]

This trade is not fair for the rest of the people in your league.

but if you throw in each other's 2008 1sts, it'll have my approval. Right BF?

Collusion! Collusion!

 

[Couch Potato]

The FBG Dynasty rankings have Addai ranked out of the top 10.At any rate, I'm doing my first dynasty draft this year and have fifth pick and will almost certainly be targeting Addai here, but I'm wondering if I am missing something since FBG has him ranked so low.Can anyone shed some light here?If the feeling is a consensus it might even be smart for me to trade down to pick him up at 9 or 10. I'm not sure.Again - just wondering why I'm so high on him and going against the FBG expert consensus.Thanks

Rankings aside, if you want him on your team then stay at 1.05 and take him there. In an initial dynasty draft with PPR scoring he will be gone by 1.09.

If I were targetting Addai, I would trade down to 1.06 in a PPR league, as LT, LJ, Bush, Gore, and SJax should all be gone in the top 5 picks. In a non-PPR league, I don't think it's unreasonable to take Addai before Bush, but that probably won't happen in most leagues anyway.

I'd take Addai ahead of Gore, and way ahead of Bush in non ppr

So, GoC, I think the message we are giving you is that if you want this guy, take him at 5 and be happy (unless of course you want 5 other guys more). It would really suck in a dynasty league to really want a player and miss out on him because you traded down too far. Unlike redraft, you don't get another shot next year.

 

[switz]

I'm not a big D. Williams fan and he hasn't proven anything but I don't believe that Addai should be above him in dynasty rankings because the expected has occurred.

Huh? So because Williams couldn't beat out DeShaun Foster and win the job, but Addai made Rhodes totally expendable, there's no reason to think Addai will be better going forward... ok, got it. :(

 

[Family Matters]

The FBG Dynasty rankings have Addai ranked out of the top 10.At any rate, I'm doing my first dynasty draft this year and have fifth pick and will almost certainly be targeting Addai here, but I'm wondering if I am missing something since FBG has him ranked so low.Can anyone shed some light here?If the feeling is a consensus it might even be smart for me to trade down to pick him up at 9 or 10. I'm not sure.Again - just wondering why I'm so high on him and going against the FBG expert consensus.Thanks

Rankings aside, if you want him on your team then stay at 1.05 and take him there. In an initial dynasty draft with PPR scoring he will be gone by 1.09.

If I were targetting Addai, I would trade down to 1.06 in a PPR league, as LT, LJ, Bush, Gore, and SJax should all be gone in the top 5 picks. In a non-PPR league, I don't think it's unreasonable to take Addai before Bush, but that probably won't happen in most leagues anyway.

I'd take Addai ahead of Gore, and way ahead of Bush in non ppr

So, GoC, I think the message we are giving you is that if you want this guy, take him at 5 and be happy (unless of course you want 5 other guys more). It would really suck in a dynasty league to really want a player and miss out on him because you traded down too far. Unlike redraft, you don't get another shot next year.

:( Good post. Addai anywhere from 5 on is as good as you'll get. He's even being taken at 4 in some drafts! BTW-trading down 2 spots is not a bad idea if you feel good about who's left if your guy is gone. Some risk in not getting Addai in moving down so if you miss out on Addai but can live with that and you got an extra pick as well then maybe it's a good deal.

 

[Ford Prefect]

Pasquino: Joseph Addai #31

I don't get this at all.

He has him at 17 for dynasty and 13 for redraft.

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/v...mp;howrecent=14Dynasty Overall Rankings

1 RB LaDainian Tomlinson, SD 1 1 1 1.0 1.0 1.0

2 RB Steven Jackson, STL 2 2 2 2.0 2.0 2.0

3 RB Larry Johnson, KC 3 3 6 4.0 3.0 3.0

4 RB Frank Gore, SF 7 6 3 5.3 6.0 6.0

5 RB Brian Westbrook, PHI 4 7 7 6.0 7.0 7.0

6 RB Reggie Bush, NO 11 4 4 6.3 4.0 4.0

7 RB Willie Parker, PIT 15 5 9 9.7 9.0 9.0

8 RB Shaun Alexander, SEA 5 19 8 10.7 8.0 8.0

9 RB Adrian Peterson, MIN 21 10 5 12.0 10.0 10.0

10 RB Rudi Johnson, CIN 8 14 15 12.3 14.0 14.0

11 RB Clinton Portis, WAS 6 15 17 12.7 15.0 15.0

12 RB Laurence Maroney, NE 18 12 10 13.3 12.0 12.0

13 RB Willis McGahee, BAL 14 16 13 14.3 14.0 14.0

13 WR Chad Johnson, CIN 9 13 21 14.3 13.0 13.0

13 QB Peyton Manning, IND 12 8 23 14.3 12.0 12.0

16 WR Steve Smith, CAR 13 9 28 16.7 13.0 13.0

17 RB Joseph Addai, IND 31 11 12 18.0 12.0 12.0

First three numbers after the team name are the rankings by Pasquino, Bloom, Smith. Pasquino's were last updated on 6/30.

I was looking at RBs only, not overall.

 

[The Houston Stallions]

I would trade down a couple spots if I had the 1.05 pick unless you wanted Bush there. I can't see Addai going ahead of Bush. Sorry, that doesn't add up to me!

I'm not so sure I'd draft Addai ahead of Portis either.

 

[ookook]

I would trade down a couple spots if I had the 1.05 pick unless you wanted Bush there. I can't see Addai going ahead of Bush. Sorry, that doesn't add up to me!I'm not so sure I'd draft Addai ahead of Portis either.

He just went 1.03 in our start-up contract draft. The owner valued the system he was in and the lack of competition. He likes taking RBs from good offenses where he will get value right away.Made some sense to me.

 

[Couch Potato]

I would trade down a couple spots if I had the 1.05 pick unless you wanted Bush there. I can't see Addai going ahead of Bush. Sorry, that doesn't add up to me!

I'm not so sure I'd draft Addai ahead of Portis either.

He just went 1.03 in our start-up contract draft. The owner valued the system he was in and the lack of competition. He likes taking RBs from good offenses where he will get value right away.Made some sense to me.

Right. It can't be assumed Addai will be there later than pick 1.05 just because "I can't see Addai going ahead of Bush. Sorry, that doesn't add up to me!" values him that way. As I said above, if you want a player in dynasty and can get him at your pick, you get him at your pick. You don't Richard around trying to drop a couple of spots being greedy and risk losing out on the guy. Of course, this depends on whether you really want the player or whether he's just someone you'd like to have, but some other guy would do. The other thing with the "I would trade down a couple spots" advice is that it assumes that if you want to do that, it's a given that you can just do it. That guy 2 or 3 spots below you may be very happy to be where he is and not want to pay additional compensation to move up. Unless someone is willing to pony up enough to make it worth the risk of losing the guy you are targeting by moving down, just keep it simple and draft the guy where you sit.