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Except for right before the draft, this time of year seems the most important to have a good evaluation of your team. Footballguys has helped me win alot of money in fantasy football in the relatively short time I have been playing. That being said, I am dissapointed that there is only one staff member's rankings in the dynasty premium content. While I value Bloom's rankings, it would be great to see a couple more of the experts's projections.

 
What are your projections for players?
My business does not pay me for ranking players. I have paid a premium to this site for that.
Do you follow FBG projections and start the players on your teams per projections or other FBG content?
Not to butt in, but he didn't say he did.I have been looking for the rankings lately too. No reason to get all snotty, constructive criticism is good sometimes.ETA: Dynasty rankings do not help one start a lineup week in and week out.
 
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Our Gangs got a point, I liked how there were two or three ofher staff members rankings in there and an average of them all.

 
I'm sure Bloom will see this thread. Bloom, please don't stop doing your rankings. More folks still look at them than you are probably aware.

My other fav was Rudnicki, and I'm sorry to see him stop.

Jeff P. also kept it up until recently and was doing a nice job.

Many of us in dynasty leagues are maneuvering for the future as well as this year, especially with most byes behind us and more roster space available for longer term prospects.

Thanks guys. You are appreciated.

 
ETA: Dynasty rankings do not help one start a lineup week in and week out.
Never said it did however I was looking to see where he is coming from. It was apparent, to me, that he followed FBG and not other advice or personal beliefs. I would think if he were seeking advice some would be offered up for discussion.
 
ETA: Dynasty rankings do not help one start a lineup week in and week out.
Never said it did however I was looking to see where he is coming from. It was apparent, to me, that he followed FBG and not other advice or personal beliefs. I would think if he were seeking advice some would be offered up for discussion.
Seemed to me he was just saying he found the content useful and would continue to find it useful during the regular season in addition to the preseason. We subscribe to FBG for info, opinion, advice, tools, etc. We all have our own reasons. Seemed to me like a very normal thing for him to say.I have no idea how you inferred what you did from his post.

 
Not to :bow: to Bloom, but I do look specifically for his dynasty opinions since it seems to be a passion with him meaning his rankings seem to be based on well studied information and opinions.

However, as a paying subscriber, I would like to see some other staff members give more regular ranking/opinions in regards to dynasty with the thought that more opinions give me more information to use to come to my own personal conclusions about players and their long term potential.

Keep up the good work!

 
Except for right before the draft, this time of year seems the most important to have a good evaluation of your team. Footballguys has helped me win alot of money in fantasy football in the relatively short time I have been playing. That being said, I am dissapointed that there is only one staff member's rankings in the dynasty premium content. While I value Bloom's rankings, it would be great to see a couple more of the experts's projections.
I would like to see Jeff's rankings updated more often. Other than that, I am happy with the content there.Edit - Keep up the good work Bloom. Very much appreciated.
 
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ETA: Dynasty rankings do not help one start a lineup week in and week out.
Never said it did however I was looking to see where he is coming from. It was apparent, to me, that he followed FBG and not other advice or personal beliefs. I would think if he were seeking advice some would be offered up for discussion.
Seemed to me he was just saying he found the content useful and would continue to find it useful during the regular season in addition to the preseason. We subscribe to FBG for info, opinion, advice, tools, etc. We all have our own reasons. Seemed to me like a very normal thing for him to say.I have no idea how you inferred what you did from his post.
Me either. Seemed pretty straightforward to me, and obviously there were a few others out there thinking the same thing. Thassall.
 
Psychology Kev said:
What are your projections for players?
Are you going to pay him $25 to see them?That's what I thought.I agree with the OP, year round dynasty rankings are HUGE. I'd love to see Joe ask the staff to submit them once a month, just to update constantly changing values.
 
My $0.02 --

The staff is a scarce resource--it's not our business how much these guys are paid but my suspicion is that for almost all of them this is a part time job so we need to be realistic about what they will produce. As such we should only ask for the most important things.

IMO there is a lot of value in things like weekly rankings and SOS and I'm glad they spend energy there. But while it is sometimes interesting to check out dynasty rankings, by their nature they are highly subjective and extremely sensitive to the needs of your team and the rules of your league.

For example, Bloom has Reggie Bush worth less than McNabb but more than Steve Smith. Is that information actually relevant? Don't get me wrong--I'm glad they're there and I'm especially glad that a dynasty guru like Bloom is doing them (Rudnicki would be nice too), but let's not go overboard. I don't need 10 staff members ranking them so that we can get a consensus opinion as to whether Chris Chambers is slightly better or slightly worse than Lee Evans.

For something as subjective as dynasty, I like to see lots of premium content where staff discusses these things in detail, which is why I LOVE the staff roundtable and to a lesser extent the dynasty sleeper of the week segment.

 
Back before they changed the site to footballguys.com, when the content was free year round, almost all of the staff posted in season redraft rankings. I don't know when they stopped doing in-season rankings because this is the first year that I bought a subscription. They now list 32 contributors on staff and all we get is one guy doing redraft rankings and two doing dynasty. I am disappointed that they have gotten so far away from their cheatsheets.net roots.

 
Dynasty projections are all about the gut, and they don't directly relate to items such as projections, the Draft Dominator, matchups - things that comprise the core competencies of FBG.

Myself, every week or two, I do searches based upon user names - users that I know comment almost exclusively on dynasty, and read what they have to say (Bloom and EBF being at the top of my list).

It's a time sink, but that's kind of the nature of the beast.

 
good thread, dynasty is becomming more and more popular, it would be nice to see the fbg content continue to grow with it

 
Couch Potato said:
My other fav was Rudnicki, and I'm sorry to see him stop.
thanks. I feel like dynasty rankings can fluctuate dramatically during the season from week to week so I wasn't sure if it was worth doing this until the season ended.I'll try to find some time to update them though.
 
Couch Potato said:
My other fav was Rudnicki, and I'm sorry to see him stop.
thanks. I feel like dynasty rankings can fluctuate dramatically during the season from week to week so I wasn't sure if it was worth doing this until the season ended.I'll try to find some time to update them though.
I don't know if anyone should want these updated weekly. You're right. every 4 weeks or so would suffice IMO. 4 times in season seems right.
 
I love checking these rankings out.

When you make a move in Dynasty it means much more to my team than if I should start Glenn or Ward this week. Not that this information is not helpful but please don't think that having a ranking of dynasty values is less important.

 
Couch Potato said:
My other fav was Rudnicki, and I'm sorry to see him stop.
thanks. I feel like dynasty rankings can fluctuate dramatically during the season from week to week so I wasn't sure if it was worth doing this until the season ended.I'll try to find some time to update them though.
I don't know if anyone should want these updated weekly. You're right.
There are definitely times that my rankings lurch back and forth because of the up and down nature of the season, but I like for my rankings to be real time - when someone gets hurt, or loses their job, I want the rankings to reflect that.
 
I don't expect any staff member to update his rankings weekly, but things do change weekly. I think Leon Washington has gone up significantly after putting up 50+ carries and 280 rushing yards the last 3 weeks. Ruvell Martin gets a slight uptick. Maurice Jones Drew converting goalline carries is meaningfu. Wali Lundy may be a sell high, but his value has changed after being productive in a win.

To me, that is a huge thing to watch with mid-late round picks: if they can be productive in a teams victory, they are likely to see opportunities in future games.

 
Here's some rankings for ya.

QB

Peyton

McNabb

Palmer

Eli

Brady

Vick

Bulger

Leinart

Rivers

Rothlisberger

Delhomme

Cutler

Leftwich

RB

LT2

Elll Jay

Portis

Reggie Bush

St Jackson

Maroney

Westbrook

Ronnie Brown

Kevin Jones

S Alexander

Rudi Johnson

DeAngelo Williams

Cadillac Williams

Chester Taylor

Willie Parker

Willis McGahee

Tatum Bell

Lamont Jordan

Maurice Drew

Jerious Norwood

Julius Jones

Frank Gore

WR

Steve Smith

Larry Fitzgerald

Chad Johnson

Anquan Boldin

Tory Holt

Reggie Wayne

Andre Johnson

Roy Williams

Marvin Harisson

Plaxico Burress

Javon Walker

Laverneous Coles

T.O.

Chris Chambers

Santana Moss

Randy Moss

Darrell Jackson

Hines Ward

TJ Housh

Lee Evans

Matt Jones

Greg Jennings

Braylon Edwards

 
I also appreciate the ongoing Dynasty rankings.

I'm sure Psychology Kev can use his huge cranium to predict Dynasty IDP prospects 10 years out since he can read so much about a guy from one short post (maybe his name should be Strange Leaps in Logic Kev). Myself, I appreciate the extra perspective of the ongoing rankings as I manage my Dynasty teams. I'm not so worried about where Reggie Bush is relative to McNabb, but it is helpful to know if FBGs like one LB a lot more than another from a dynasty perspective when I'm choosing between two WW pickups. I have my own opinions and research as well, but especially with IDP it's hard to keep tabs on every team in the league. Yes it's subjective, which is why it's nice to get multiple perspectives as well.

I do echo the sentiment that more people may be checking those rankings than you guys realize.

P.S. I love FBGs, so I'm not complaining--just adding my voice that this is something I appreciate.

 
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Couch Potato said:
My other fav was Rudnicki, and I'm sorry to see him stop.
thanks. I feel like dynasty rankings can fluctuate dramatically during the season from week to week so I wasn't sure if it was worth doing this until the season ended.I'll try to find some time to update them though.
Hi Aaron I'm glad to see more than one staffer keeping up with dynasty. As the format grows in popularity realize that we are looking at FA pickups, trades, and ongoing roster moves as the season roles around. Many of these moves happen between Sunday to Wednesday so any other advice or thoughts that can come out (if not rankings) would be very well received.
 
We get more information on IDP during the season due to the excellent articles from the IDP staff...

Every week you get an extended look at IDP players to watch for, especially for dynasty leagues...

On the offensive side of the ball what you mostly get are weekly projections...

There is very little information for dynasty owners or even rookies as the season progresses on the offensive side of the ball...

This seems to be a backwards trend this year...

 
Just want to chime in that i very much enjoy the dynasty rankings...i'm hoping Footballguys will eventually devote even more resources to dynasty leagues :thumbup:

 
Thanks Bloom for the effort.

Your updated dynasty rankings

to me is the single biggest tool

on this site.

I truly wish others would follow your lead.

 
Psych Kev,

It is similar to the stock market, you pay brokers to give you investment advice, though you make the final decision ion what you buy or sell. I use FBGs to give me advice. Currently, Bloom Cadillac Williams ranked 16 overall, while I agree within a spot or two, many people have him ranked much higher. You can make a case for him being a better option that Ronnie Brown, who is ranked 7th. When you have more than one ranking, it gives you a better perspective.

 
Thanks Bloom for the effort.Your updated dynasty rankings to me is the single biggest toolon this site.I truly wish others would follow your lead.
For once, my name and "biggest tool" are in the same sentence, and I don't feel insulted.
 
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I don't write for footballguys.com, but I did post dynasty rankings a few times last season. I would have liked to have been able to do it a few times this season, but spare time has been hard to come by lately. I did, however, work on this last night. If I can get a few more minutes this afternoon/evening, I'll try to post what I have (and I hope to try to put comments by each player's ranking).

Bad news: I don't come with a FBG stamp of approval.

Good news: It's free.

 
My other fav was Rudnicki, and I'm sorry to see him stop.
thanks. I feel like dynasty rankings can fluctuate dramatically during the season from week to week so I wasn't sure if it was worth doing this until the season ended.I'll try to find some time to update them though.
I don't know if anyone should want these updated weekly. You're right. every 4 weeks or so would suffice IMO. 4 times in season seems right.
:goodposting: I think once a month rankings would be great. i've been in some of my dynasty league for almost 10 years now. I do my research. I have my opinions.Right now is an important time for dynasty league owners. There are teams fighting for the playoffs who may overpay for a key (marginal) starter. Or if you are rebuilding, you can get some young talent for the future relatively cheaply.I like having my opinion and double checking it against some informed guys like Rudnicki, Bloom and Pasquino. Usually I'm in the ballpark. On the times I'm not...I'll look at it again and maybe my opinion will change (or not)
 
I'm sure Bloom will see this thread. Bloom, please don't stop doing your rankings. More folks still look at them than you are probably aware.My other fav was Rudnicki, and I'm sorry to see him stop.Jeff P. also kept it up until recently and was doing a nice job.Many of us in dynasty leagues are maneuvering for the future as well as this year, especially with most byes behind us and more roster space available for longer term prospects.Thanks guys. You are appreciated.
What he said. The in-season dynasty rankings are a valuable part of the site. :thumbup:
 
Can someone point me in the direction of the dynasty rankings? I've been having trouble locating them on the site. Thanks.

 
Can someone point me in the direction of the dynasty rankings? I've been having trouble locating them on the site. Thanks.
Click on "Link to Preseason" on the home page to find any kind of dynasty rankings.Once the season starts they mostly disappear.It would be nice to have a dynasty section like the IDP section. IDP info is the best around.
 
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Can someone point me in the direction of the dynasty rankings? I've been having trouble locating them on the site. Thanks.
Click on "Link to Preseason" on the home page to find any kind of dynasty rankings.Once the season starts they mostly disappear.
Easiest way (for me at least) is to click on "Forecast" near the top of any page, then scroll down to Expert Rankings - Dynasty Leagues.It'd be nice to have more opinions, but if we're only going to get one I'm glad it's Bloom. No offense meant to the other staff members, he just seems to be the resident dynasty guru.

 
Ron_Mexico said:
Thanks Bloom for the effort.Your updated dynasty rankings to me is the single biggest toolon this site.I truly wish others would follow your lead.
For once, my name and "biggest tool" are in the same sentence, and I don't feel insulted.
Hey Bloomster (you tool :D ), if you need some help here, why not enlist the peanut gallery? There are some really sharp dynasty players here. You shouldn't have to do dynasty along, even if you are da GURU. (and you are! :yes: )Somethings needed:-an extensive report on dynasty sleepers - not only guys like Floyd, but guys that maybe on practice squads worthy of a pick-up (especially by teams that need to re-load).- How much gas is left in the tank report on older players- Upcoming coaching changes that could really effect player production (Denny Green, for example)- Value of upcoming year's rookie picks - trade or hold by round. - Late round rookie sleeper value picks
 
Ron_Mexico said:
Thanks Bloom for the effort.Your updated dynasty rankings to me is the single biggest toolon this site.I truly wish others would follow your lead.
For once, my name and "biggest tool" are in the same sentence, and I don't feel insulted.
Hey Bloomster (you tool :D ), if you need some help here, why not enlist the peanut gallery? There are some really sharp dynasty players here. You shouldn't have to do dynasty along, even if you are da GURU. (and you are! :yes: )Somethings needed:-an extensive report on dynasty sleepers - not only guys like Floyd, but guys that maybe on practice squads worthy of a pick-up (especially by teams that need to re-load).- How much gas is left in the tank report on older players- Upcoming coaching changes that could really effect player production (Denny Green, for example)- Value of upcoming year's rookie picks - trade or hold by round. - Late round rookie sleeper value picks
:thumbup:Always looking for ideas.Expect a LOT of material from me in the offseason.
 
Ron_Mexico said:
Thanks Bloom for the effort.Your updated dynasty rankings to me is the single biggest toolon this site.I truly wish others would follow your lead.
For once, my name and "biggest tool" are in the same sentence, and I don't feel insulted.
Thanks again Bloom.I knew I had a good team but to have 3 in the top 21 overall is better than I expected.
 
Bloom, thanks for keeping your rankings current. I did a search of the rankings of the past 200 days and there are about 6 others that have done rankings. Seems to me, once you set you order initially, making adjustments should be pretty easy ti keep them current.

 
I have been hooked to this site since last January for three reasons:

1. because of the "new trends"[DYNASTY] and IDP content the site was offering;

2. because the staff is omnipresent when asked about their beliefs;

3. because there are gazillion of knowledgeable members that offers their opinion - for you to see if yours is in line with theirs.

I think, for FBG to truly help us "Dominate our league" - having [DYNASTY] rankings updated in-season is the next big step to take...

I can find a hundred sites that will rank the guys for the upcoming week or that lists who to start and who to sit... but there are none that can truly help you figure out if you should aim for that soon-to-be-UFA-RB in a trade with an owner that wants to win it all this year or if that young QB will develop into the next Couch or Favre... and this is what the avid FFer is looking for...

Just let me throw in three names to see that in-season [DYNASTY] rankings updates are required:

Shaun Alexander / Mike Bell / Calvin Jonhson (yes a guy not playing in the NFL - for draft pick trade value)...

---

Like I mentioned, FBG's coverage, especially on [DYNASTY] and IDP subject is the best bar-none (far from complaining) - it's just a way to make sure you stay ahead, in my opinion...

 
Except for right before the draft, this time of year seems the most important to have a good evaluation of your team. Footballguys has helped me win alot of money in fantasy football in the relatively short time I have been playing. That being said, I am dissapointed that there is only one staff member's rankings in the dynasty premium content. While I value Bloom's rankings, it would be great to see a couple more of the experts's projections.
I would like to see Jeff's rankings updated more often. Other than that, I am happy with the content there.Edit - Keep up the good work Bloom. Very much appreciated.
I'm sure Bloom will see this thread. Bloom, please don't stop doing your rankings. More folks still look at them than you are probably aware.My other fav was Rudnicki, and I'm sorry to see him stop.Jeff P. also kept it up until recently and was doing a nice job.Many of us in dynasty leagues are maneuvering for the future as well as this year, especially with most byes behind us and more roster space available for longer term prospects.Thanks guys. You are appreciated.
Thanks guys.I've personally debated this, and I don't know whether I should be tweaking them at this point of the year. There are obvious changes of course, but I don't want to be swayed by Roscoe Parrish scoring a TD on a particular week, for example.My rankings are still there, and if I just "bumped" them it wouldn't be fair nor accurate. Sure it would look like I did them, but that's not what I have done lately so I'm not going to do that. I do understand that Dynasty is a 12-month experience, but having a frozen moment in time is also worth reviewing. Bloom wants to keep his moving, I'm cool with that. More power to him, and also to Ruds if he gets time to update his. However, I feel that reviewing what I was thinking a month or two ago (I did update a few weeks ago) and comparing that to changes to date I can also get some good info.SO - long story short - I see a few reasons to update and also NOT to update. It's a tough call, but for right now I don't want to adjust very often with the season rolling unless I can put my head squarely in a long-term mode.I'll talk with Doug and see if we can freeze older rankings for a "moment in time" and then I'll see if I can squeeze some time in for making adjustments.Glad to see dynasty talk. You'll notice my sig is also pimping it. :thumbup:
 

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