how can people have mcfadden ahead of proven talent?
its not even certain that he's the best back in the class.
and what if the situation is terrible (ie drafted by a team with a terrible oline/qb or drafted with a superstar rb already in place by a team who sees him as the best "value" pick).
going with grant here.
This is the same argument people made against Peterson last year, and look how that worked out.Edited to ask: Would you seriously trade the 1.01 for Ryan Grant if you had the opportunity? Or anybody in this poll for that matter.
Comparing to him to peterson is ridiculous, Peterson is a completely different runner and his ONLY conern was injury
Injury was not his only concern. People on here were arguing that his running style wouldn't translate, he was on a team that could not get people out of the box, he was on a team that already had a starting level RB, and people were arguing that Marshawn Lynch was actually the best RB of the class.
People were worried that his upright running style would cause him to take more damage leading to injury, it had nothing to do with translating to the NFL. The other concerns were situational and in dynasty format talent comes before situation. The concerns on McFadden are more to do with him not being a strong enough runner and going down on first contact. IMO when all is said and done he wont be the most successful back from this class and its possible he might not even be the most successful back out of Arkansas in this class
Sorry, but wrong again. I remember people specifically arguing that Peterson's upright running style would negate his speed by making him a larger target, similar to what has happened with Maroney. Also, the fact that Lynch was considered by many as the best back of that class was a non-situational argument for why AP should not be valued as high as he was in dynasty. Plus, a situational concern is still a concern. You admitting this was true is admitting that your original post was false when you said "injury was his ONLY concern," and yes you did have only in all caps.
agree to disagree but all this AD talk is irrelevant anyway. None of the McFadden supporters here have said exactly WHY they think DMC should be ranked so high or addressed any of the claims being made about his lack of power or leg drive. What have you seen from him that makes you think that wont be an issue in the NFL. Convince me
There is no need to agree to disagree about AD, because I said nothing but factual statements.As far as McFadden goes, I believe that his track record is the best thing he has going for him. Most experts would agree that the SEC is the best defensive conference in college football. With teams like Auburn, LSU, Alabama, Florida, Georgia and Tennesee all fielding top defensive prospects from all over the nation and world. In this conference McFadden has put up these numbers:
YEAR ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST
2005 176 1113 6.3 70 11 14 52 3.7 12 0 0 0
2006 284 1647 5.8 80 14 11 149 13.5 70 1 0 0
2007 325 1830 5.6 80 16 21 164 7.8 57 1 0 0
A lot has been made of McFadden's slender build, and that is a legitimate concern. However, every time I have watched him in a game (that is, not watching cherry picked plays chosen in order to fill a TV show) he looked tough and loved contact. He also runs hard and does not go down easy, and I have seen him in at least 10 games against top level opponents. Plus, he has had great vision and instincts while being very quick and agile. He has game speed and timed speed and can take it to the house on any play. His demeanor is also that of an enthused athlete, ferocious on every play. Add in the fact that he has been extremely productive against the defense oriented teams of the SEC, and I think we have ourselves a player. All of these things make me believe that he will overcome his lack of leg drive as you put it.
Similar to Peterson, he does not have a lot of work catching, but has shown no signs of being an incapable WR.
The fact that he is just 20 years old should also factor into his ranking in dynasty. He is considerably younger than WP and Ryan Grant. He is also slightly younger than Maroney, who is yet to prove he can be a workhorse or stay healthy, and is in a very pass oriented offense that favors giving the ball to Heath Evans at the GL. All of these reasons add to why I would rank him #1 in this particular poll.
Maybe I should just let McFadden speak for himself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ-bTAHYCxo