Dynasty RB rankings from today on... (1 Viewer)

[biggamer3]

Keep in mind this is my own rankings and based on PPR leagues

#1 Chris Johnson (might be controversial but there is no back i would rather have for Today+ future than CJ3)

#2 Adrian Peterson (Recepts are low but he is a horse who continues to be consistent)

#3 Marion Barber (still only 25, TD machine when Romo is in there)

#4 Frank Gore (not as consistent as years past but still a solid bet to excel in future like he has been doing for years)

#5 Marshawn Lynch

#6 Brian Westbrook (looks like he will always be a back who is banged up, but 12 weeks of his stats is worth it)

#7 Matt Forte

#8 Steven Jackson (bit banged up but as his surrounding players get better so does he)

#9 Clinton Portis (not sure how much longer he can sustain this level but a few more years seems reasonable)

#10 LT (yes his TD's are way down, but he still is elite)

#11 Tim Hightower (yes he has joined the top 12, TD machine with a solid offense and a coach who loves him= Fantasy Elite)

#12 Michael Turner (will get better and better,but lack of recpts hurt him a lot )

#13 Reggie Bush (the all around RB is a force when healthy)

#14 Ronnie Brown (too inconsistent, but 8 rushing TD's aint nothing to sneeze at)

#15 MJD (We have been waiting forever for him to turn it on consistently but that day is coming real soon)

#16 Steve Slaton (he is the big ? in the rankings, can be a top 5 back with his catching ability)

#17 Ryan Grant (getting better as season wears on, once he gets TD's he will move up rankings, Lack of Recpts hurt him)

#18 Brandon Jacobs (TD machine, not consistent enough but can be a great #2 back for FF)

Big dropoff after top 18

#19 Joseph Addia (seems like someone who's talent has eroded him, i personally feel his glory days are far over)

#20 Thomas Jones (getting up there in age, might have a couple more years of solid contributions)

#21 Larry Johnson (real wild card, but he can still be the force he was if he stops talking to woman)

#22 Jonathan Stewart (Talent will get him the featured role next year)

#23 Lendale White

#24 Willie Parker (he has fallen a lot, his window might be closing real soon)

#25 Ray Rice

#26 Run DMC

#27 Jamal Lewis

#28 Felix Jones

#29 Cedric Benson (Yeah i said it, i feel he will be a solid RB for the future as well)

#30 Earnest Graham ( i was never too high on him)

#31 Derrick Ward (could be a feature back next year)

#32 Kevin Smith

#33 Leon Washington (can be a major fantasy player next year)

#34 Deangelo Williams

 

[fruity pebbles]

Hightower over Reggie Bush in a ppr? Wow

 

[biggamer3]

Hightower over Reggie Bush in a ppr? Wow

I really listed who i believed was the most valuable and of course Bush's injury hinders his ranking

 

[dotman]

In a dynasty league I tend to weigh talent pretty heavily since that is the one factor least likely to change. A RB's line, team, and supporting cast could change drastically but unless a RB just wears down his talent will be there. I like Ronnie Brown a lot more than you but I also can't see how you rank Ryan Grant over Jonathan Stewart. I'm not a Grant hater, he can get it done with a good line but he's also the type of guy who could be a backing up a rookie next year. Stewart looks special to me and has outscored Grant this year while splitting time with DeAngelo. What are you seeing here that I'm not?

 

[SproutDaddy]

I will take Deangelo over half those guys, even Stewart! Kevin Smith, Cedric Benson, Ray Rice..........you can't be serious!

 

[streamkeeper]

I think you are a little too excited about the rookie class.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Nice effort, but it seeems you are basing it just on the rest of this season.

 

[biggamer3]

In a dynasty league I tend to weigh talent pretty heavily since that is the one factor least likely to change. A RB's line, team, and supporting cast could change drastically but unless a RB just wears down his talent will be there. I like Ronnie Brown a lot more than you but I also can't see how you rank Ryan Grant over Jonathan Stewart. I'm not a Grant hater, he can get it done with a good line but he's also the type of guy who could be a backing up a rookie next year. Stewart looks special to me and has outscored Grant this year while splitting time with DeAngelo. What are you seeing here that I'm not?

If i was ranking purely on talent Stewart is a top 15 RB, BUT Ryan Grant will be the featured back in Green Bay for the next few years. Nothing i have seen from the coach or organization has me believing otherwise. Stewart seems like he could be sharing carries with Deangelo for some time though he will win the feature role one day the fact that he isnt guaranteed of a #1 role has him slightly lower on my rankings

 

[biggamer3]

I think you are a little too excited about the rookie class.

Not really,of the Rookies Forte,Slaton, Hightower dont seem like they are facades like other rookies who started out hot. They genuinely look like they belong in their current roles

 

[Burning Sensation]

I think you are a little too excited about the rookie class.

Really? He has Ryan Grant, Joseph Addai, LJ and Thomas Jones over Jonathan Stewart, DMac and Felix Jones. I would trade any two of those vets for any one of those rookies.

 

[biggamer3]

Nice effort, but it seeems you are basing it just on the rest of this season.

I knew no way i could appease everyone with these rankings but i didnt solely base these on the remaining 8 games, i also heavily considered 2009 and beyond hence the drop in guys like Jamal Lewis, Thomas Jones

 

[thatguy]

Nice effort, but it seeems you are basing it just on the rest of this season.

I knew no way i could appease everyone with these rankings but i didnt solely base these on the remaining 8 games, i also heavily considered 2009 and beyond hence the drop in guys like Jamal Lewis, Thomas Jones

If you honestly considered 2009 and beyond how on earth can you leave Reggie Bush out of the top 5 in PPR scoring? I'm not trying to hate on your rankings, but I'm truly curious...

 

[moderated]

very odd set of rankings if talking PPR.

 

[Riffraff]

Mendenhall has fallen off the face of the earth. He's behind a 29 year old injury prone RB without a team (Ward)?

Ward is in the Kevin Jones and Rudi Johnson group of players with a 1 year contract.

 

[biggamer3]

Nice effort, but it seeems you are basing it just on the rest of this season.

I knew no way i could appease everyone with these rankings but i didnt solely base these on the remaining 8 games, i also heavily considered 2009 and beyond hence the drop in guys like Jamal Lewis, Thomas Jones

If you honestly considered 2009 and beyond how on earth can you leave Reggie Bush out of the top 5 in PPR scoring? I'm not trying to hate on your rankings, but I'm truly curious...

I only downgraded Bush due to the injury. A healthy Bush is top 5 probably (I own him in a Dynasty) but arthroscopic knee surgery is not something silly, its a mark on him now

 

[bumpman]

Wow. Hightower at 11 seems really out of place and way too high. He has a total of one game as a starter, and 71 total carries in his NFL career. Those carries have gone for a whopping 3.4 yards each! You are taking a huge risk valuing this guy at #11. Yes, there is a lot of excitement about him beating out Edge and doing well against a crappy defense this week. Each year there are a few unknown names that pop up and do well for spurts (since we are talking about the Cards, see Marcel Shipp, Michael Pittman, or my personal favorite: http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/LeShon-Johnson. The reality is that if they don't have above-average NFL starter talent, they are a risk to be replaced by the next up-and-comer upon any cold stretch or be replaced in the offseason with a free agent or (more likely) a rookie draft pick. Because I don't think Hightower is that naturally talented, I think Hightower will be in that situation until he can prove otherwise over time (like, say Curtis Martin). Ranking him at 11 assumes he is already proven to be the main guy next year and for the forseeable future.

 

[Duke1948]

#18 Brandon Jacobs (TD machine, not consistent enough but can be a great #2 back for FF)

as compared to some of those ranked above him.....he's the model consistency.

 

[thatguy]

Nice effort, but it seeems you are basing it just on the rest of this season.

I knew no way i could appease everyone with these rankings but i didnt solely base these on the remaining 8 games, i also heavily considered 2009 and beyond hence the drop in guys like Jamal Lewis, Thomas Jones

If you honestly considered 2009 and beyond how on earth can you leave Reggie Bush out of the top 5 in PPR scoring? I'm not trying to hate on your rankings, but I'm truly curious...

I only downgraded Bush due to the injury. A healthy Bush is top 5 probably (I own him in a Dynasty) but arthroscopic knee surgery is not something silly, its a mark on him now

My understanding is that arthroscopic surgery not very invasive, typically very successful, and is followed by a quick recovery. I don't think it's a longterm issue... But I guess I could be wrong.

 

[biggamer3]

#18 Brandon Jacobs (TD machine, not consistent enough but can be a great #2 back for FF)

as compared to some of those ranked above him.....he's the model consistency.

I had him in a deadlock with Grant, Brown and the fact that he has someone mooching off him carries had him lower in the rankings

 

[treat88]

Wow. Hightower at 11 seems really out of place and way too high. He has a total of one game as a starter, and 71 total carries in his NFL career. Those carries have gone for a whopping 3.4 yards each! You are taking a huge risk valuing this guy at #11. Yes, there is a lot of excitement about him beating out Edge and doing well against a crappy defense this week. Each year there are a few unknown names that pop up and do well for spurts (since we are talking about the Cards, see Marcel Shipp, Michael Pittman, or my personal favorite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeShon_Johnson). The reality is that if they don't have above-average NFL starter talent, they are a risk to be replaced by the next up-and-comer upon any cold stretch or be replaced in the offseason with a free agent or (more likely) a rookie draft pick. Because I don't think Hightower is that naturally talented, I think Hightower will be in that situation until he can prove otherwise over time (like, say Curtis Martin). Ranking him at 11 assumes he is already proven to be the main guy next year and for the forseeable future.

I agree. The Hightower excitement is really premature.He is far more Benjarvus Green-Ellis than ADP from a talent perspective.

I really don't mean to be a hater, but he's simply not that talented.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Stopped paying attention after #1....

 

[Jersey35]

So, would you trade ADP for Chris Johnson?

 

[thehornet]

Chris Johnson 1? Good god.

 

[FUBAR]

Wow. Hightower at 11 seems really out of place and way too high. He has a total of one game as a starter, and 71 total carries in his NFL career. Those carries have gone for a whopping 3.4 yards each! You are taking a huge risk valuing this guy at #11. Yes, there is a lot of excitement about him beating out Edge and doing well against a crappy defense this week. Each year there are a few unknown names that pop up and do well for spurts (since we are talking about the Cards, see Marcel Shipp, Michael Pittman, or my personal favorite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeShon_Johnson). The reality is that if they don't have above-average NFL starter talent, they are a risk to be replaced by the next up-and-comer upon any cold stretch or be replaced in the offseason with a free agent or (more likely) a rookie draft pick. Because I don't think Hightower is that naturally talented, I think Hightower will be in that situation until he can prove otherwise over time (like, say Curtis Martin). Ranking him at 11 assumes he is already proven to be the main guy next year and for the forseeable future.

I agree. The Hightower excitement is really premature.He is far more Benjarvus Green-Ellis than ADP from a talent perspective.

I really don't mean to be a hater, but he's simply not that talented.

22 yards and a 1.7 average against San Fran is mighty impressive. They must have been stacking the box, and make AZ beat them through the air.

 

[3nOut]

#18 Brandon Jacobs (TD machine, not consistent enough but can be a great #2 back for FF)

as compared to some of those ranked above him.....he's the model consistency.

I had him in a deadlock with Grant, Brown and the fact that he has someone mooching off him carries had him lower in the rankings

I agree that he's too low. Even though he has someone mooching touches from him, he's still #4 in my league. We are TD heavy but still get pts for yards.

 

[EBF]

Stopped paying attention after #1....

 

[jonboltz]

#34 Deangelo Williams

:(

 

[Tanner9919]

Lynch at #5?!

oft-injured Westbrook at #6??

Hightower at #11?!

 

[ADP]

Stopped paying attention after #1....

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Wow. Hightower at 11 seems really out of place and way too high. He has a total of one game as a starter, and 71 total carries in his NFL career. Those carries have gone for a whopping 3.4 yards each! You are taking a huge risk valuing this guy at #11. Yes, there is a lot of excitement about him beating out Edge and doing well against a crappy defense this week. Each year there are a few unknown names that pop up and do well for spurts (since we are talking about the Cards, see Marcel Shipp, Michael Pittman, or my personal favorite: http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/LeShon-Johnson. The reality is that if they don't have above-average NFL starter talent, they are a risk to be replaced by the next up-and-comer upon any cold stretch or be replaced in the offseason with a free agent or (more likely) a rookie draft pick. Because I don't think Hightower is that naturally talented, I think Hightower will be in that situation until he can prove otherwise over time (like, say Curtis Martin). Ranking him at 11 assumes he is already proven to be the main guy next year and for the forseeable future.

This would be my biggest beef with the list as well (close second would be Johnson at #1). I'm not convinced Hightower is the future in Arizona. He runs hard, has some decent burst, but I see nothing special in him. I could see Arizona brininging in a more dynamic back either through the draft or FA and keep Hightower in a GL/short yardage role - which would of course still give him value but not top 12 value.

 

[Ripleys]

I just wanted everyone to know my cat's breath smells like cat food, and I traded Hightower and a late 1st for Westy and an early 2nd in a PPR dynasty.

 

[EBF]

I just wanted everyone to know my cat's breath smells like cat food, and I traded Hightower and a late 1st for Westy and an early 2nd in a PPR dynasty.

Someone just got robbed. I watched that whole game last night and thought Hightower looked very average.

 

[Burning Sensation]

I Probaby wouldnt take CJ over AD, but it isnt so far fetched in a PPR. No matter what kind of league, Chris Johnson is easily a top 5 dynasty RB. I believe people who think having CJ that high are just angry they missed out on him to take players like Mendenhall or Ray Rice.

 

[Burning Sensation]

I just wanted everyone to know my cat's breath smells like cat food, and I traded Hightower and a late 1st for Westy and an early 2nd in a PPR dynasty.

Someone just got robbed. I watched that whole game last night and thought Hightower looked very average.

I agree, he reminds me alot of Mendenhall, without the fumbling.

 

[Scarpaggio]

So Kevin Smith at 32. I haven't seen him play this year so I dont' know but is that where others expect him to be at going into next year and beyond?

 

[Burning Sensation]

So Kevin Smith at 32. I haven't seen him play this year so I dont' know but is that where others expect him to be at going into next year and beyond?

4.3 YPC and 25 catches this year is pretty good considering the offense he is playing in. It appears Rudi was brought in to let the rookie know he has to work for the #1 spot, and it certainly looks like he has earned it. Buy low while you still can.

 

[teamroc]

"yes he has joined the top 12, TD machine with a solid offense and a coach who loves him= Fantasy Elite"

Wow, you use the term Fantasy Elite rather loosely.

 

[EBF]

I Probaby wouldnt take CJ over AD, but it isnt so far fetched in a PPR. No matter what kind of league, Chris Johnson is easily a top 5 dynasty RB. I believe people who think having CJ that high are just angry they missed out on him to take players like Mendenhall or Ray Rice.

The only reason I would even consider Chris Johnson that high is because there's a severe shortage of bankable young stars at RB. How many RBs would you actually feel good building a dynasty team around? Portis, Westbrook, and LT are on the backslope of their careers. Stewart, Ronnie, Forte, and CJ3 have potential, but haven't proven themselves as dependable NFL starters over multiple seasons.

There are only a handful of relatively young guys who have proven effective over multiple seasons. That group includes ADP, Gore, Jackson, MJD, Bush in PPR, and maybe Lynch and Barber. Those are the elite dynasty backs. Once you get past that group, you're mostly looking at committee backs, unproven youngsters, and veterans nearing the end of their careers.

Johnson has had a very good year and will likely remain a top 10-20 type back for the foreseeable future, but I don't know that he's going to be a consistent difference maker in the long run. I wouldn't feel comfortable relying on him as my dynasty RB1 yet.

 

[EdwardCat]

Your ranking of Addai seems reactionary. He's been suffering from injuries this year. I don't think you can really write him off. He's still young.

 

[EdwardCat]

I Probaby wouldnt take CJ over AD, but it isnt so far fetched in a PPR. No matter what kind of league, Chris Johnson is easily a top 5 dynasty RB. I believe people who think having CJ that high are just angry they missed out on him to take players like Mendenhall or Ray Rice.

The only reason I would even consider Chris Johnson that high is because there's a severe shortage of bankable young stars at RB. How many RBs would you actually feel good building a dynasty team around? Portis, Westbrook, and LT are on the backslope of their careers. Stewart, Ronnie, Forte, and CJ3 have potential, but haven't proven themselves as dependable NFL starters over multiple seasons.

There are only a handful of relatively young guys who have proven effective over multiple seasons. That group includes ADP, Gore, Jackson, MJD, Bush in PPR, and maybe Lynch and Barber. Those are the elite dynasty backs. Once you get past that group, you're mostly looking at committee backs, unproven youngsters, and veterans nearing the end of their careers.

Johnson has had a very good year and will likely remain a top 10-20 type back for the foreseeable future, but I don't know that he's going to be a consistent difference maker in the long run. I wouldn't feel comfortable relying on him as my dynasty RB1 yet.

Improper use of the fishing icon. This guy is clearly not fishing.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

I Probaby wouldnt take CJ over AD, but it isnt so far fetched in a PPR. No matter what kind of league, Chris Johnson is easily a top 5 dynasty RB. I believe people who think having CJ that high are just angry they missed out on him to take players like Mendenhall or Ray Rice.

The only reason I would even consider Chris Johnson that high is because there's a severe shortage of bankable young stars at RB. How many RBs would you actually feel good building a dynasty team around? Portis, Westbrook, and LT are on the backslope of their careers. Stewart, Ronnie, Forte, and CJ3 have potential, but haven't proven themselves as dependable NFL starters over multiple seasons.

There are only a handful of relatively young guys who have proven effective over multiple seasons. That group includes ADP, Gore, Jackson, MJD, Bush in PPR, and maybe Lynch and Barber. Those are the elite dynasty backs. Once you get past that group, you're mostly looking at committee backs, unproven youngsters, and veterans nearing the end of their careers.

Johnson has had a very good year and will likely remain a top 10-20 type back for the foreseeable future, but I don't know that he's going to be a consistent difference maker in the long run. I wouldn't feel comfortable relying on him as my dynasty RB1 yet.

I'm not saying I agree that Johnson is RB1 in dynasty, but I think you're selling him way short. I've seen absolutely nothing thus far to indicate that Chris Johnson CAN'T be in the elite group. The only thing holding him back from that status now is Lendale stealing goal line carries, but Johnson has proven himself to also be effective at goal-line situations throughout the year.I know I wouldn't trade Johnson for Lynch or Bush (eta: I play non-PPR, PPR maybe) in dynasty, and I'd be hard pressed to trade him for MJD.

 

[Touchdown Syndrome]

I also own CJ3 in a keeper and there's only a handful of RBs I'd swap him for. ADP, SJax, and Gore come to mind. Maybe Bush (if I didn't already own him).

 

[teamroc]

I Probaby wouldnt take CJ over AD, but it isnt so far fetched in a PPR. No matter what kind of league, Chris Johnson is easily a top 5 dynasty RB. I believe people who think having CJ that high are just angry they missed out on him to take players like Mendenhall or Ray Rice.

The only reason I would even consider Chris Johnson that high is because there's a severe shortage of bankable young stars at RB. How many RBs would you actually feel good building a dynasty team around? Portis, Westbrook, and LT are on the backslope of their careers. Stewart, Ronnie, Forte, and CJ3 have potential, but haven't proven themselves as dependable NFL starters over multiple seasons.

There are only a handful of relatively young guys who have proven effective over multiple seasons. That group includes ADP, Gore, Jackson, MJD, Bush in PPR, and maybe Lynch and Barber. Those are the elite dynasty backs. Once you get past that group, you're mostly looking at committee backs, unproven youngsters, and veterans nearing the end of their careers.

Johnson has had a very good year and will likely remain a top 10-20 type back for the foreseeable future, but I don't know that he's going to be a consistent difference maker in the long run. I wouldn't feel comfortable relying on him as my dynasty RB1 yet.

I'm not saying I agree that Johnson is RB1 in dynasty, but I think you're selling him way short. I've seen absolutely nothing thus far to indicate that Chris Johnson CAN'T be in the elite group. The only thing holding him back from that status now is Lendale stealing goal line carries, but Johnson has proven himself to also be effective at goal-line situations throughout the year.I know I wouldn't trade Johnson for Lynch or Bush (eta: I play non-PPR, PPR maybe) in dynasty, and I'd be hard pressed to trade him for MJD.

Funny you say that, I offerd a fellow FBGer, 0.5 PPR RB 1 PPR WR dynasty league Lynch for CJ3 straight up, and he turned it down.

 

[EBF]

I'm not saying I agree that Johnson is RB1 in dynasty, but I think you're selling him way short. I've seen absolutely nothing thus far to indicate that Chris Johnson CAN'T be in the elite group.

I didn't say he can't be in that group, but I wouldn't put him in that group today. My hunch is that his value will dip a little bit over the next 1-2 seasons and he'll settle into FF RB2 territory. Some people will accuse me of being a "hater" because I was down on Johnson prior to the season, but I'm always willing to adjust my opinion when I'm proven wrong. I simply don't think Johnson has done enough to warrant placement ahead of guys who have had similar production over multiple seasons (MJD being one of those guys). I watched all of the GB/TEN game and kept a close eye on Johnson. He's FAST, but I felt like most of his good runs were the result of big holes. I didn't come away from the game thinking I'd just seen a great back. I didn't see the elite talent that I saw from Portis, LT, and ADP early in their careers. So you can put me firmly on the fence when it comes to CJ3. Tennessee is winning and he's been a big part of that success. As long as that continues, the coaches will keep feeding him the ball and he'll remain a strong FF option. Jeff Fisher isn't stupid. He'll stick with his guys.That said, I think defenses are catching up and I would expect to see a downward trend in CJ3's per-touch production moving forward. He's going to have plenty of games like this last one where he gets bottled up and doesn't give you the big play that his stat line generally needs to elevate his numbers above the level of mediocrity. Basically, I think he's going to remain an FF contributor, but I don't see him as a bankable star. Maybe that will change. Maybe not.

 

[awesomeness]

Your ranking of Addai seems reactionary. He's been suffering from injuries this year. I don't think you can really write him off. He's still young.

All of his rankings are reactionary. Pretty much if you did good in week 9 you're ranked highly in the dynasty rankings. If you did poorly/injured you're ranked lower.

 

[treat88]

I agree, he reminds me alot of Mendenhall, without the fumbling.

Mendenhall is a far more talented back than Hightower. That statement has zero to do with draft position either.I wasn't horribly impressed with Mendenhall in the very rare opportunities he actually saw PT. However, it was obvious that once he learns the pro game the physical tools are there to succeed.Hightower is just a grinder. Nothing wrong with that, but his value comes by virtue of his opportunity. That opportunity will likely be short-lived due to the lack of talent. Lots of heart, not much wiggle/speed. Career back-up.Not trying to be a hater, it's just what my eyes tell me about Hightower. I would love to be wrong.

 

[Burning Sensation]

I Probaby wouldnt take CJ over AD, but it isnt so far fetched in a PPR. No matter what kind of league, Chris Johnson is easily a top 5 dynasty RB. I believe people who think having CJ that high are just angry they missed out on him to take players like Mendenhall or Ray Rice.

:( The only reason I would even consider Chris Johnson that high is because there's a severe shortage of bankable young stars at RB. How many RBs would you actually feel good building a dynasty team around? Portis, Westbrook, and LT are on the backslope of their careers. Stewart, Ronnie, Forte, and CJ3 have potential, but haven't proven themselves as dependable NFL starters over multiple seasons.

There are only a handful of relatively young guys who have proven effective over multiple seasons. That group includes ADP, Gore, Jackson, MJD, Bush in PPR, and maybe Lynch and Barber. Those are the elite dynasty backs. Once you get past that group, you're mostly looking at committee backs, unproven youngsters, and veterans nearing the end of their careers.

Johnson has had a very good year and will likely remain a top 10-20 type back for the foreseeable future, but I don't know that he's going to be a consistent difference maker in the long run. I wouldn't feel comfortable relying on him as my dynasty RB1 yet.

Assuming you play in 12 team leagues, Chris Johnson has to be considered a #1 RB. I dont see a problem with him being part of a RBBC, as he is still putting up top 5-7 RB numbers. You listed Bush and MJD as top 5 dynasty backs, and they are just as much part of RBBC as Chris Johnson. I almost prefer backs that split carries, as they are more likely to stay healthy over a full season, and are also more likely to have longer careers. Also, you argue that a RB should prove himself over multiple seasons, yet list AD number one and he barely has one full season under his belt. Im certainly not saying he shouldnt be the #1 dynasty back, but why does CJ need to prove himself over multiple seasons before he is considered an elite back?

I can see an argument for Gore and SJax over CJ, but no way i take Lynch over him, and i am a Bills homer. Reggie Bush is certainly gold in PPR leagues, and even more so in leagues that reward return yardage. My top 10 dynasty RB's would look something like this:

1. AD

2. MJD

3. CJ

4. SJax

5. Gore

6. Bush

7. Barber

8. Forte

9. Lynch

10. Mcfadden

HM goes to Stewart, Portis, Westbrook, Turner and Slaton, in no particular order.

Ronnie Brown, Brandon Jacobs, Ray Rice, and Felix Jones would be in the next tier.

Players i wouldnt touch in dynasty leagues would include Addai LJ, Grant, Mcgahee, Lewis, LT, Graham, White, Maroney, Thomas Jones, Justin Fargas and Tim Hightower, especially considering their current perceived value.

Players who are undervalued in dynasty leagues right now include Kevin Smith, Deangelo Williams, Amhad Bradshaw, Rashard Mendenhall, Jamal Charles, Michal Bush and Mewelde Moore.

 

[Aero]

Funny, in my 12 team dynasty league (keeping 9 guys), I managed to get Rice with my first pick (10th overall), Mendy with my second (15th overall), and CJ3 with my THIRD (20th overall!). Not sure how that happened, as this is a pretty competitive league going on 6 seasons with the same folks. I couldn't believe my luck at the time, and looking back, it seems just insane I got away with that.

 

[Burning Sensation]

I agree, he reminds me alot of Mendenhall, without the fumbling.

Mendenhall is a far more talented back than Hightower. That statement has zero to do with draft position either.I wasn't horribly impressed with Mendenhall in the very rare opportunities he actually saw PT. However, it was obvious that once he learns the pro game the physical tools are there to succeed.Hightower is just a grinder. Nothing wrong with that, but his value comes by virtue of his opportunity. That opportunity will likely be short-lived due to the lack of talent. Lots of heart, not much wiggle/speed. Career back-up.Not trying to be a hater, it's just what my eyes tell me about Hightower. I would love to be wrong.

I would say that is a fair assessment of Hightower, but i feel similar about Mendenhall. Like you though, i hope i am wrong. I do think RM is a buy low right now, because he has nowhere to go but up, but he is going to need to improve significantly to become a succesful NFL back.

 

[zdaddy]

Funny, in my 12 team dynasty league (keeping 9 guys), I managed to get Rice with my first pick (10th overall), Mendy with my second (15th overall), and CJ3 with my THIRD (20th overall!). Not sure how that happened, as this is a pretty competitive league going on 6 seasons with the same folks. I couldn't believe my luck at the time, and looking back, it seems just insane I got away with that.

What do you expect when you play with 3rd graders...for the OPAP is easily the #1 here. CJ I would not put in the top 5.