Dynasty RB rankings (1 Viewer)

[Bracie Smathers]

Everyone ranks players and RBs are the currency of FF. I had tweaked my FF Dynasty RB rankings, traditional, i.e., none PPR (Points Per Reception) scoring.

A link to my dyansty RB rankings.

http://mb25.scout.com/fbrownsinsiderfrm14....8.topic&index=2

Most leagues consist of twelve teams so I like to group players by twelves to check my roster with the rest of the league in terms of how many players I have ranked within the top 12, 24, 36, etc, where I want to at least keep pace with the pack by having at least one player within each block of twelve.

FFG dyansty rankings, top twelve

1 Larry Johnson, KC 2 LaDainian Tomlinson, SD 3 Clinton Portis, WAS 4 Shaun Alexander, SEA 5 Cadillac Williams, TB 6 Ronnie Brown, MIA 7 Reggie Bush, NO 8 Steven Jackson, STL 9 LaMont Jordan, OAK 10 Willis McGahee, BUF 11 Rudi Johnson, CIN 11 12 Edgerrin James, ARI

My top twelve

1 - Tomlinson San Diego Chargers 2 - Larry Johnson Kansas City Chiefs 3- Shaun Alexander Seattle Seahawks 4 - Steven Jackson St. Louis Rams 5 - Clinton Portis, Washington Redskins 6 - EDGE Cards 7 - Cadillac Williams Tampa Bay Bucs 8 - Ronnie Brown Miami Dolphins 9 - Kevin Jones Detroit Lions 10 - Willis McGahee Buffalo Bills 11 - Lamont Jordan, Oakland Raiders 12 - Rudi Johnson Cincinati Bengals

Divergent top twelve name(s)? I have Kevin Jones in at #9 and FFGs have Reggie Bush ranked #7. KJ is ranked within the top twelve by me due to the Martz effect where I see KJ becoming more multi-dimensional in catching the ball and being used much like Martz used Marshall Faulk. Reggie Bush will have a holdout and it will cost him his rookie year. Deuce isn't full strength and next year he'll be full-go and will carve out his role. I have questions about Reggie's durability and I just don't see him being a full-time feature back. We agree on the other names but have them shuffled is all.

Next twelve (13 to 24) by FFGs

13 Tiki Barber, NYG 14 Brian Westbrook, PHI 15 Kevin Jones, DET 16 Domanick Davis, HOU 17 Laurence Maroney, NE 18 DeAngelo Williams, CAR 19 Julius Jones, DAL 20 Cedric Benson, CHI 21 Thomas Jones, CHI 22 Deuce McAllister, NO 23 Chester Taylor, MIN 24 Reuben Droughns, CLE

My 13 to 24

13 - Jamal Lewis Baltimore Ravens 14 - Julius Jones Dallas Cowboys 15 - Deuce New Orleans Saints 16 - Brian Westbrook Philadelphia Eagles 17 - Reggie Bush Houston Jets Saints 18 - Chester Taylor Minny 19 - Lawrence Maroney Pats

20 Cedric Benson Chicago Bears 21 - Tatum Bell, Denver Broncos 22 Joseph Addai 23 - Dom Davis Houston Texans 24 - LenDale White Titans

Divergent names not already mentioned? Tiki, Jam, Ced, T-Bell, Addai, Lendale, DeAngelo. Lots of disagreement between the two lists begins here. For Dyanasty purposes, Tiki has no upside with two years of production left. Jamal Lewis, his ankle injury was the same as pitcher Kurt Schilling, an 18 month rehabilitation. Injured November 2004 so February of this year he should have been 100%. Last year missed all OTAs/minicamp/training camp, O-line fell apart, no QB threat meant he faced a stacked box every play. Now he's got McNair, 100% recoved, line is improved, only 26, lots of productive years ahead. Ced only needs a shot and will produce for years. T-Bell doesn't have competition, will get enough carries to produce although I've never been high on him he rates this high. Addai is in the perfect position with little competition. Lendale has oodles of talent and he's in a good situation since I see Henry on the outs and Chris Brown is a gimp puppy. I love DeAngelo but I am not keen on his situation. I felt he would have been a better fit in any offense other than a power running system also I don't dismiss Eric Shelton stealing short yardage/goal line totes and I really like Foster WHEN HE'S HEALTHY yet I know his injury history. I could be swayed to bump up DeAngleo but not at this time.

Next 12 of FFGs 25-36

25 Willie Parker, PIT 26 Jamal Lewis, BAL 27 LenDale White, TEN 28 Joseph Addai, IND 29 Tatum Bell, DEN 30 Warrick Dunn, ATL 31 DeShaun Foster, CAR 32 Chris Brown, TEN 33 Frank Gore, SF 34 Ahman Green, GB 35 Marion Barber III, 36 Fred Taylor, JAX

My 25 to 36

25 - Deshaun Foster, Carolina Panthers 26 - DeAngelo Williams, Lina 27 - Willie Parker Steelers 28 - Thomas Jones, Chicago Bears 29 - Reuben Droughns 30 - Chris Brown, Tennessee Titans 31 - Ron Dayne Broncos 32 - Chris Perry Bengals

33t - *Tiki Barber New York Giants 33t - *Warrick Dunn 34 - Corey Dillon 35 - Frank Gore SF 36 - Eric Shelton Panthers

Divergent names not already mentioned? Thomas Jones, Ahman Green, Marion Barber III Fred Taylor, Corey Dillion, Ron Dayne, Eric Shelton, Chris Perry. I'm not sure how TJ is missing from FFGs list within the top 36 names. Young, talented, can catch in addition to run, low mileage/age. Ahman isn't the same but the Pack didn't draft a RB so Green should get carries but that situation seems ready to turn over and I think when Farve goes so goes Ahman. Marion Barber, I'm not sold yet. Freddy Taylor is skipping all OTAs and not working out with the team. He's older and they drafted a talented change of pace RB, I just can't place rank him as a good prospect for a #3 Dynasty RB which is what this portion of rankings would indicate. I do on the other hand have Corey Dillion ranked here. I think he won't go quietly into the night. I expect a comeback which will earn him a chunk of carries next year. Ron Dayne is in the perfect spot and looked decent last year in limited action. Eric Shelton just intriuges me. I was shocked the Jags took DeAngelo so I know I'm in the minority but will dig my heels in a bit with Shelton. Chris Perry has talent but is a gimp puppy and has to vye with Rudi, still think he ranks.

Next 12 FFGs 37 to 48

37 Corey Dillon, NE 38 Chris Perry, CIN 39 Dominic Rhodes, IND 40 Ron Dayne, DEN 41 Michael Turner, SD 42 Curtis Martin, NYJ 43 Greg Jones, JAX 44 Kevan Barlow, SF 45 T.J. Duckett, ATL 46 Cedric Houston, NYJ 47 Samkon Gado, GB 48 Mike Anderson, BAL

My 37 to 48

37 - Marion Barber 3 Boys 38 Samkon Gado 39 - Najeh Davenport 40 - Travis Henry Titans 41 - Ahman Green 42 - Fred Taylor 43 move up from 46 - Ryan Moats 44 - Maurice Drew Jacksonville 45 - TJ Duckett 46 - Mike Anderson 47 - Michael Turner 48 - Cedric Houston

Divergent names not already mentioned? Najeh Davenport, Travis Henry, Ryan Moats, Kevan Barlow, Mo Drew, Greg Jones, Dom Rhodes CuMart. I know Davenport is a gmip puppy but when healthy he's a beast. He rushed for the third highest total in the all-time history of the Pack in his first start a few years ago. He's got talent if he can stay on the field. Henry also has talent and lots of troubles. I like Moats as a sleeper this year. Mo Drew is a great situation to get an opportunity and I feel he's got talent to make noise. I'm not high on Greg Jones. I think the Jags will push him into the FB position. Dom Rhodes just didn't do much with his opportunities last year so I see Addai taking advantage moreso than Rhodes. Put a fork in CuMart, he's done.

Last 12 by FFGs 49 to 60

49 Ryan Moats, PHI 50 Jerome Harrison, CLE 55 51 Maurice Drew, JAX 52 Mewelde Moore, MIN 53 Travis Henry, TEN 54 Brian Calhoun, DET 47 55 Maurice Morris, SEA 56 J.J. Arrington, ARI 57 Brandon Jacobs, NYG 58 Ricky Williams, MIA 59 Michael Pittman, TB 60 Priest Holmes, KC

My last 49 to 60

49 - Dominic Rhodes 50 - Brian Calhoun 51 - Kevan Barlow 52 - Curtis Martin 53 - Brandon Jacobs 54 - Maurice Morris 55 - Michael Bennett 56 - JJ Arrington

57 - Mewelde Moore 58 - Greg Jones 59 - Ciatrick Fason 60t - Lee Suggs 60t William Green

Divergent Names not already mentioned? Michael Bennett, Michael Pittman, Priest Holmes, Ricky Williams, Ciatric Fason, Lee Suggs, William Green. Bennett was able to flash ability in the past but his situation is abismal so this ranking is based on the outside shot he gets moved to someplace where he's not competing with Reggie Bush. I'm not high on Pittman. Padre is done. Ricky is off the reservation. I figure the Viking RBs are fringe plays for possible production. Lee Suggs has talent if he can make it on the field. The Droughns situation could spiral so Willie Green gets a mention.

We agree on most of the names but I have a higher reguard for, Jamal Lewis, Kevin Jones, and Ryan Moats, of vets who I feel have upside or are ready to explode. Per rookies, its difficult to agree since its all speculation so we have lots of disagreements there but I can't rank Reggie Bush so high for dynasty purposes with his situation. Other than that just divergent views on 'elder' RBs on how their final days will play out. Thoughts?

 

[Bracie Smathers]

(13 to 24) by FFGs

21 Thomas Jones, CHI 22 Deuce McAllister, NO 23 Chester Taylor, MIN 24 Reuben Droughns, CLE

... Divergent names not already mentioned? Thomas Jones, Ahman Green, Marion Barber III Fred Taylor, Corey Dillion, Ron Dayne, Eric Shelton, Chris Perry. I'm not sure how TJ is missing from FFGs list within the top 36 names. Young, talented, can catch in addition to run, low mileage/age.

LOL, caught that after I posted.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Jamal Lewis at 13 is a farce.

I wouldn't even rank him in that tier.

He has many miles on him for his age,

he can't hit the holes with the speed and force

with which he once did. I don't understand

how he can be ranked ahead of Bush and Maroney,

players who have zero miles on them and huge upside.

He needs a lot more than a QB upgrade.

Lewis is borderline toast, imo.

FBG has it closer with Jamal at #26.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Jamal Lewis at 13 is a farce.

I wouldn't even rank him in that tier.

He has many miles on him for his age,

he can't hit the holes with the speed and force

with which he once did. I don't understand

how he can be ranked ahead of Bush and Maroney,

players who have zero miles on them and huge upside.

He needs a lot more than a QB upgrade.

Lewis is borderline toast, imo.

FBG has it closer with Jamal at #26.

Jamal doesn't have many miles on him for his young age. He missed his second season. He only has one high mileage year under his belt. Per hitting holes with speed and force. Jamal has plenty of both speed and force. The key to stopping him is preventing him from squaring his shoulders with the LOS so if their is no holes he has to go wide and is horizontal to the LOS not verticle. When your QB is Boller their is no respect for the pass so the box gets stacked thus the gaps are full so Jam's shoulders didn't have a chance for getting square, i.e., turned upfield. See his 2,000 yard season for proof of both speed and force hitting holes.

Reggie Bush will get enough touches to make an impact but he's not going to be the bell cow in New Orleans. Maroney needs to get by Corey and then prove himself. Jam already has proven himself and is in the driver's seat. He's getting his carries and he'll produce.

 

[gang-wars]

Jamal Lewis at 13 is a farce.

I wouldn't even rank him in that tier.

He has many miles on him for his age,

he can't hit the holes with the speed and force

with which he once did. I don't understand

how he can be ranked ahead of Bush and Maroney,

players who have zero miles on them and huge upside.

He needs a lot more than a QB upgrade.

Lewis is borderline toast, imo.

FBG has it closer with Jamal at #26.

Jamal doesn't have many miles on him for his young age. He missed his second season. He only has one high mileage year under his belt. Per hitting holes with speed and force. Jamal has plenty of both speed and force. The key to stopping him is preventing him from squaring his shoulders with the LOS so if their is no holes he has to go wide and is horizontal to the LOS not verticle. When your QB is Boller their is no respect for the pass so the box gets stacked thus the gaps are full so Jam's shoulders didn't have a chance for getting square, i.e., turned upfield. See his 2,000 yard season for proof of both speed and force hitting holes.

Reggie Bush will get enough touches to make an impact but he's not going to be the bell cow in New Orleans. Maroney needs to get by Corey and then prove himself. Jam already has proven himself and is in the driver's seat. He's getting his carries and he'll produce.

So how do you explain the last two years? RB24 and RB25? Ranked as RB13? He's been top 10 RB once in six years. Most of his hype is due to the 2k year, and people are still clinging to that.2004 was Jam has arrived. Woops.

2005 was Jam will bounce back. Woops.

2006 is no really, Jam is back?

You talk about not proven. You ranked KJ 9? What has he proven? You discount upside with Bush, Maroney, but all KJ has is upside. And is Martz really going to last more then a year? Two? He'll be a HC again, soon. And everyone was down on SJAX because of Martz, and now high on SJAX because Martz is gone, but it helps KJ?

You rank SJAX 4, because Martz is gone? Can't work both ways.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Jamal Lewis at 13 is a farce.

I wouldn't even rank him in that tier.

He has many miles on him for his age,

he can't hit the holes with the speed and force

with which he once did. I don't understand

how he can be ranked ahead of Bush and Maroney,

players who have zero miles on them and huge upside.

He needs a lot more than a QB upgrade.

Lewis is borderline toast, imo.

FBG has it closer with Jamal at #26.

Jamal doesn't have many miles on him for his young age. He missed his second season. He only has one high mileage year under his belt. Per hitting holes with speed and force. Jamal has plenty of both speed and force. The key to stopping him is preventing him from squaring his shoulders with the LOS so if their is no holes he has to go wide and is horizontal to the LOS not verticle. When your QB is Boller their is no respect for the pass so the box gets stacked thus the gaps are full so Jam's shoulders didn't have a chance for getting square, i.e., turned upfield. See his 2,000 yard season for proof of both speed and force hitting holes.

Reggie Bush will get enough touches to make an impact but he's not going to be the bell cow in New Orleans. Maroney needs to get by Corey and then prove himself. Jam already has proven himself and is in the driver's seat. He's getting his carries and he'll produce.

You convieniently left out the ankle problems which have plagued himthe past 2 years. A new QB won't fix a broken down RB who has

lost speed and power.

If you think Jamal Lewis is worth more in a dynasty league

than Maroney or Reggie Bush, I want some of that crack cocaine

that you've been smoking.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

So how do you explain the last two years? RB24 and RB25? Ranked as RB13? He's been top 10 RB once in six years. Most of his hype is due to the 2k year, and people are still clinging to that.

Per explaining the last two years. Lewis was facing imprisonment and got injured. The injury he sufferd to his ankle has an 18 month recovery period. He did not cross that barrier until February. Two 100 yard games Jamal had last year came in the last four games as he was nearing his recovery period. The ability to recuperate from injury while in prison for six months then missing all OTAs/training camp/exhibition season and then being thrown in with Ogden/Milatualo gimped and Heap not at full strength and Boller as QB isn't the same as right now after Jam has crossed his recovery period, has already served his prison sentence and all community service requirements, and has been resigned by the club for the next few years so he also isn't coming in with an attitude. He had the second highest rushing performance in NFL history which is not hype. Nor was his NFL record breaking single game that he called ALA Babe Ruth the week he broke that record hype.

You talk about not proven. You ranked KJ 9? What has he proven? You discount upside with Bush, Maroney, but all KJ has is upside. And is Martz really going to last more then a year? Two? He'll be a HC again, soon. And everyone was down on SJAX because of Martz, and now high on SJAX because Martz is gone, but it helps KJ?

Rookie season he prodced.Rush attempts 241 yards 1133 average per carry 4.7 touchdowns 5 Receptions 28 yards 180 yards per reception 6.4 touchdowns 1 Over 1,300 yards and over a half dozen scores is demonstrated proof over a rook who hasn't taken one snap. I don't discount upside with Bush or Maroney but they don't get credit over someone who has proven themselves by actually producing in the bigs.

You rank SJAX 4, because Martz is gone? Can't work both ways.

I don't rank him #4 because Martz is gone, don't put words in my mouth. Stephen Jackson is going to be the feature back without competition. New Ram head coach Scott Lineham has said he is going to run more with Stephen Jackson. Jackson didn't fit the way that Martz used Marshall Faulk. Jackson had 15 starts last year and just over 250 carries. He increased his attempts and yards and his coach says he'll be rushed more. Young, low miles, the unquestioned starter, will be the feature back as stated by his HC, and has loads of talent and that is why I rank him high. Martz has stated he is going to use Jones ALA Marshall Faulk and that he's grasping everything he's thrown his way. Jones was in the doghouse last year but he's more than capable of being able to carry the load and now with Martz running the offense and a new QB who should produce more than Harrington I think KJ is primed for a huge season.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

You convieniently left out the ankle problems which have plagued him

the past 2 years. A new QB won't fix a broken down RB who has

lost speed and power.

You did not read correctly, see the first post where I specifically mention his ankle injury.

Jamal Lewis, his ankle injury was the same as pitcher Kurt Schilling, an 18 month rehabilitation. Injured November 2004 so February of this year he should have been 100%. Last year missed all OTAs/minicamp/training camp, O-line fell apart, no QB threat meant he faced a stacked box every play. Now he's got McNair, 100% recoved, line is improved, only 26, lots of productive years ahead.

If you think Jamal Lewis is worth more in a dynasty league

than Maroney or Reggie Bush, I want some of that crack cocaine

that you've been smoking.

Jamal Lewis holds the all-time NFL single game rushing performance record, he holds the second highest NFL rushing performance in a single season. He is, 26 years old, under contract, has fufilled all legal obligations, he has a QB for the first time in his career, he also has passed the recovery period for his ankle injury that was addressed and that you conviently did not read.