Dynasty RB Update.... My top 25 (1 Viewer)

[KellysHeroes]

Corrected

1. Ladainian Tomlinson 6/23/1979

2. Larry Johnson 11/19/1979

3. Steven Jackson 7/22/1983

4. Clinton Portis 9/1/1981

5. Frank Gore 5/14/1983

6. Shaun Alexander 8/30/1977

7. Brian Westbrook 9/2/1979

8. Reggie Bush 3/2/1985

9. Ronnie Brown

10. Willie Parker 11/11/1980

11. Laurence Maroney 2/5/1985

12. Joseph Addai 5/3/1983

13. Rudi Johnson 10/1/1979

14. Willis McGahee 10/20/1981

15. Carnell Williams 4/21/1982

16. T Henry

17. Chester Taylor 9/22/1979

18. Cedric Benson 12/28/1982

19. AD or AP

20. DeAngelo Williams 4/25/1983

21. Maurice Jones-Drew 3/23/1985

22. Brandon Jacobs

23. Deuce McAllister 12/27/1978

24. Edgerrin James 8/1/1978

25. Marshawn Lynch

 

[phthalatemagic]

Rudi at 14, is this ppr, or do you really not like him that much?

 

[Tag]

Rudi at 14, is this ppr, or do you really not like him that much?

I have no idea why TJones isnt on this list, do you think the Jets traded for him to sit the bench behind L washington?

 

[phthalatemagic]

Maybe he thinks the Jets will regress and cause Jones to have poor numbers. Maybe he thinks Washington and Jones will be close to 50/50? That's a good question though

 

[Tag]

Maybe he thinks the Jets will regress and cause Jones to have poor numbers. Maybe he thinks Washington and Jones will be close to 50/50? That's a good question though

I could see Washington being a factor if TJones wasnt a good 3rd down RB but that isnt the case. He blocks, runs hard and catches the ball very well. He's a complete back.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Peterson is way too low. Alexander is way too high.

 

[Patoons]

Buy low on KJ it appears

 

[Tag]

Buy low on KJ it appears

AND TJ

 

[crnerblitz]

Fruity Pebbles, what is it that makes you shy away from SA?

I am skiddish on him for dynasty purposes for a couple of reasons. First and formost is his age. He is getting up there. My second reason mitigates the first reason. Several years ago he stated that he wanted to leave the game on his own terms and with his youth and health intact. Or something to that effect. Perhaps this was nothing more than a negotiating tactic, pehaps it wasn't. He is reported to be a faithfilled Christian and so I will take him at his word.

In years past that hasn't worried me too much. This year though I just cant escape the gut feeling that he may only play for one or two more years. Too much risk there to be taken with your first overall dynasty pick.

 

[Driver]

1. Ladainian Tomlinson 6/23/19792. Larry Johnson 11/19/19793. Steven Jackson 7/22/19834. Clinton Portis 9/1/19815. Frank Gore 5/14/19836. Shaun Alexander 8/30/19777. Brian Westbrook 9/2/19798. Reggie Bush 3/2/19859. Ronnie Brown11. Willie Parker 11/11/198012. Laurence Maroney 2/5/198513. Joseph Addai 5/3/198314. Rudi Johnson 10/1/197915. Willis McGahee 10/20/198116. Carnell Williams 4/21/198217. Chester Taylor 9/22/197918. Cedric Benson 12/28/198219. AD or AP20. DeAngelo Williams 4/25/1983 21. Maurice Jones-Drew 3/23/198522. Brandon Jacobs23. Deuce McAllister 12/27/197824. Edgerrin James 8/1/197825. Marshawn Lynch

Where's #10? I'll throw in my $.02 (assuming non-ppr and dynasty value, not ADP):Way too high (more than 5 slots):SAOthers too highortisCaddyCTaylorBensonJacobsEdgeWay too low (more than 5 slots):MJDOthers too low:SJAXBushMaroneyRudiJMcGaheeAD or APDWilliamsDefinitely should be on list of top-25 dynasty:THenryShould be considered for list:TJonesLWhiteKJones (even with current status of injury)ETA: These players also could be considered but they're not on my top-25:MTurnerMBarberJJonesTBellNorwoodLJordanJLewisAGreen

 

[fruity pebbles]

Fruity Pebbles, what is it that makes you shy away from SA? I am skiddish on him for dynasty purposes for a couple of reasons. First and formost is his age. He is getting up there. My second reason mitigates the first reason. Several years ago he stated that he wanted to leave the game on his own terms and with his youth and health intact. Or something to that effect. Perhaps this was nothing more than a negotiating tactic, pehaps it wasn't. He is reported to be a faithfilled Christian and so I will take him at his word. In years past that hasn't worried me too much. This year though I just cant escape the gut feeling that he may only play for one or two more years. Too much risk there to be taken with your first overall dynasty pick.

There's no way I'm ranking a 30 year old runningback 6th overall in a dynasty. That's a recipe for disaster. You may do OK the first year, maybe even the second year. But after that it's downhill and you have a gaping hole in your lineup. Saw it with Marshall Faulk, saw it with Priest Holmes, saw it with Tiki Barber. As soon as you draft Alexander that high, his value begins to drop immediately. Nobody wants to pay a lot for a 30 year old runningback so even if he plays well, he's hard to move. You're pretty much stuck with him until the end considering the price you paid for him.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

This is a serious question, and I'm not trying to be a jerk about it: Have you seen Maurice Jones-Drew play in the NFL? I mean more than a few seconds on highlight reels. Have you actually sat down and watched a Jags game or two for the full game to see him play?

I actually agree with you on Thomas Jones. He's borderline top 25. I do expect Leon Washington to be the 3rd down back, and I think Jones' ceiling is about 1250 yards and 8 TDs (which he's managed twice in his career). And he'll be 29 years old to begin the season, an age where 95% of all backs in NFL history take a step backwards.

 

[KellysHeroes]

SA still has 2 too 3 yrs left on a great Off-season that has no intention of replacing or even taking carries away from him.

Bush would be in front of Gore if it weren't for Duece.. right now; Gore is uncontested for his position while Bush still has atleast another yr of sharing

Rudi is very consistent; but I would pass on him and take Maroney or Addai.. they will put up the same type #s and are younger than him.

I meant to put Henry in.. thats a Bad job by me.. I placed him at #16

AD is low since WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TEAM HES ON

Jones Drew is involved in a 3 headed monster for the next 3 yrs.... thats why hes so low on my list.

KJ sucks.. Det will be looking to dump him

I'm a Jets fan... But TJ is 29 yrs old.. he is only the short-term answer for the Jets.. they will look to replace him before his contract is up.

 

[cscmtp]

I think it looks pretty darn good. A few here and there I would change, but overall, i like it.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I think it looks pretty darn good. A few here and there I would change, but overall, i like it.

Thank you...Everyone will have a different opnion.. thats why every Draft is different...This is my opnion

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Corrected1. Ladainian Tomlinson 6/23/19792. Larry Johnson 11/19/19793. Steven Jackson 7/22/19834. Clinton Portis 9/1/19815. Frank Gore 5/14/19836. Shaun Alexander 8/30/19777. Brian Westbrook 9/2/19798. Reggie Bush 3/2/19859. Ronnie Brown10. Willie Parker 11/11/198011. Laurence Maroney 2/5/198512. Joseph Addai 5/3/198313. Rudi Johnson 10/1/197914. Willis McGahee 10/20/198115. Carnell Williams 4/21/198216. T Henry17. Chester Taylor 9/22/197918. Cedric Benson 12/28/198219. AD or AP20. DeAngelo Williams 4/25/1983 21. Maurice Jones-Drew 3/23/198522. Brandon Jacobs23. Deuce McAllister 12/27/197824. Edgerrin James 8/1/197825. Marshawn Lynch

SA still has 2 too 3 yrs left on a great Off-season that has no intention of replacing or even taking carries away from him.Rudi is very consistent; but I would pass on him and take Maroney or Addai.. they will put up the same type #s and are younger than him.I meant to put Henry in.. thats a Bad job by me.. I placed him at #16AD is low since WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TEAM HES ONJones Drew is involved in a 3 headed monster for the next 3 yrs.... thats why hes so low on my list.KJ sucks.. Det will be looking to dump himI'm a Jets fan... But TJ is 29 yrs old.. he is only the short-term answer for the Jets.. they will look to replace him before his contract is up.

- RBs over 30 tend to fall off the cliff fast. You don't want to be the one left holding Alexander when his value takes a nosedive...which could be happening much sooner than you think.- I agree on Rudi. He's no threat in the passing game, if Perry is healthy, he'll cut into Rudi's carries more in 07, Rudi's YPC last year was poor. I have Rudi in one dynasty league, but I would trade him for Maroney or Addai- It doesn't matter what team Adrian Peterson is on. He's going to be the #1 back and a star on the team regardless- Jones-Drew is in a 2 headed backfield just like the one he was in last year in JAX...the one where he scored 16 TDs, finished in the top 10 RBs, and was a threat to take it to the house everytime he got his hands on the ball. Greg Jones?! Come on. What makes you think he'll steal carries from a guy who scored 16 TDs last year and was the most explosive player on the field? Greg Jones is coming off a 2nd ACL injury and was only ever used as a runner in JAX out of desperation when Taylor was injured and/or ineffective. MJD owners have nothing to worry about with Greg Jones, and Fred Taylor's re-signing doesn't change anything from last year when he was top 10 back.- KJ doesn't suck, he's just injured...and DET won't be looking to dump him. - Thomas Jones...right on

 

[KellysHeroes]

- RBs over 30 tend to fall off the cliff fast. You don't want to be the one left holding Alexander when his value takes a nosedive...which could be happening much sooner than you think.- Jones-Drew is in a 2 headed backfield just like the one he was in last year in JAX...the one where he scored 16 TDs, finished in the top 10 RBs, and was a threat to take it to the house everytime he got his hands on the ball. Greg Jones?! Come on. What makes you think he'll steal carries from a guy who scored 16 TDs last year and was the most explosive player on the field? Greg Jones is coming off a 2nd ACL injury and was only ever used as a runner in JAX out of desperation when Taylor was injured and/or ineffective. MJD owners have nothing to worry about with Greg Jones, and Fred Taylor's re-signing doesn't change anything from last year when he was top 10 back.- KJ doesn't suck, he's just injured...and DET won't be looking to dump him.

W/ SA.. the guy can put up 20 TDs in each season he plays.. thats pretty goodI could be wrong.. but a lot of People are going to get Burned w/ MJD.. the team is getting worse. The QB situation is Bad, the WRs stink, and D is getting old. And MJD won't surprise anyone this yr.KJ stunk in 2005, he had a decent season last yr; now he missing half this season.. Thats why I'll draft 25+ RBs before KJ

 

[Patoons]

I'm a Jets fan... But TJ is 29 yrs old.. he is only the short-term answer for the Jets.. they will look to replace him before his contract is up.

It is not a one year contract. He has a large guaranteed portion, he will play his full contract and likely more years than SA. Based on your SA comments above, Jones should not be ranked solely on his age since his contract is not a short-term contact and is mostly guaranteed.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I think it looks pretty darn good. A few here and there I would change, but overall, i like it.

I agree.

 

[Patoons]

KJ stunk in 2005, he had a decent season last yr; now he missing half this season..

Thats why I'll draft 25+ RBs before KJ

How do you know? There are conflicting reporst out there and no announcement from the team.MJD, imo, is going to be a monster. He's got fantastic vision and great back out of the backfield. He could easily be a Westbrook type of back in a year or two, regardless of Taylor's presence there.

 

[Tag]

SA still has 2 too 3 yrs left on a great Off-season that has no intention of replacing or even taking carries away from him.Bush would be in front of Gore if it weren't for Duece.. right now; Gore is uncontested for his position while Bush still has atleast another yr of sharingRudi is very consistent; but I would pass on him and take Maroney or Addai.. they will put up the same type #s and are younger than him.I meant to put Henry in.. thats a Bad job by me.. I placed him at #16AD is low since WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TEAM HES ONJones Drew is involved in a 3 headed monster for the next 3 yrs.... thats why hes so low on my list.KJ sucks.. Det will be looking to dump himI'm a Jets fan... But TJ is 29 yrs old.. he is only the short-term answer for the Jets.. they will look to replace him before his contract is up.

TJ is 28 with not many carries.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

- RBs over 30 tend to fall off the cliff fast. You don't want to be the one left holding Alexander when his value takes a nosedive...which could be happening much sooner than you think.- Jones-Drew is in a 2 headed backfield just like the one he was in last year in JAX...the one where he scored 16 TDs, finished in the top 10 RBs, and was a threat to take it to the house everytime he got his hands on the ball. Greg Jones?! Come on. What makes you think he'll steal carries from a guy who scored 16 TDs last year and was the most explosive player on the field? Greg Jones is coming off a 2nd ACL injury and was only ever used as a runner in JAX out of desperation when Taylor was injured and/or ineffective. MJD owners have nothing to worry about with Greg Jones, and Fred Taylor's re-signing doesn't change anything from last year when he was top 10 back.- KJ doesn't suck, he's just injured...and DET won't be looking to dump him.

I could be wrong.. but a lot of People are going to get Burned w/ MJD.. the team is getting worse. The QB situation is Bad, the WRs stink, and D is getting old. And MJD won't surprise anyone this yr.

Again, have you watched the Jags play?- Leftwich is a very good QB who finally has an offensive coordinator willing to do more than call two run plays into the pile and then pass on 3rd and long. The QB position in JAX is more than alright. He's tough, accurate, smart, a good leader, doesn't turn the ball over and has come up large in the clutch. As long as he stays healthy, the Jags are well above average at QB.- Actually, the Jags will be a legit contender next season as long as they get some improvement out of their former 1st rounders on offense (Matt Jones, Reggie Williams & Mercedes Lewis). I don't expect much out of Reggie Williams, and a better WR than Northcutt would have been nice; however, I do expect a big jump from Matt Jones this year, and Lewis should be a much bigger factor since he'll be fully healthy this year.- How is the Jags D old? Their best players are in their prime -- Henderson, Stroud, Mathis, the linebackers. Their D is top-notch.- Brian Westbrook doesn't surprise anyone anymore either, but he's still very effective. All of the MJD concern I've seen on these boards is an irrational replacement for actually having seen him play last season. Is there anyone who has watched him play a full game on at least two occasions who is worried about him?And I think JAX is actually going to be the regular season Ravens of next season. They'll make the leap to 12-4 or close to it. Look at their points scored vs. points against last season. They had a better differential than every team in the NFC except the Bears, and only the Chargers, Ravens & Pats had a better differential in the AFC. This team has a lot of talent, and they're in a great position to make a serious move in 2007. I think they really needed a Randy Moss type impact player to make a momentum move, but they should be in great shape regardless.

 

[KellysHeroes]

TJ is 28 with not many carries.

T Jones \ Born: Aug 19, 1978\ will be 29 when the season beginsHe is signed to a 3 yr deal.. The Jets will have the back up plan ready to go when that contract is done..29 yr old RBs brought in and signed to 3 yr deals are the short-term plan...And TJ Lovers.. WHERE WOULD YOU PLACE HIM!!!!Who you gona take off the list... Tell me

 

[BigSteelThrill]

KJ stunk in 2005, he had a decent season last yr; now he missing half this season..

Thats why I'll draft 25+ RBs before KJ

How do you know? There are conflicting reporst out there and no announcement from the team.MJD, imo, is going to be a monster. He's got fantastic vision and great back out of the backfield. He could easily be a Westbrook type of back in a year or two, regardless of Taylor's presence there.

Its our job as Fantasy owners to take calculated and educated guesses.Him missing siginificant time this season has far better odds then him being ready to go from the preseason and being healthy (i.e. having no setbacks) throughout the season. I, for one, dont think its even close to even odds. And this isnt about new injuries, but about the effects of the one he already has.

 

[KellysHeroes]

- Leftwich is a very good QB who finally has an offensive coordinator willing to do more than call two run plays into the pile and then pass on 3rd and long. The QB position in JAX is more than alright. He's tough, accurate, smart, a good leader, doesn't turn the ball over and has come up large in the clutch. As long as he stays healthy, the Jags are well above average at QB.- Actually, the Jags will be a legit contender next season as long as they get some improvement out of their former 1st rounders on offense (Matt Jones, Reggie Williams & Mercedes Lewis). I don't expect much out of Reggie Williams, and a better WR than Northcutt would have been nice; however, I do expect a big jump from Matt Jones this year, and Lewis should be a much bigger factor since he'll be fully healthy this year.

As long as he stays healthy, the Jags are well above average at QB Any Team can be a legit contender when they get improvement from their 1st Rounders...

 

[Tag]

TJ is 28 with not many carries.

T Jones \ Born: Aug 19, 1978\ will be 29 when the season beginsHe is signed to a 3 yr deal.. The Jets will have the back up plan ready to go when that contract is done..29 yr old RBs brought in and signed to 3 yr deals are the short-term plan...And TJ Lovers.. WHERE WOULD YOU PLACE HIM!!!!Who you gona take off the list... Tell me

I think you're making a bigger deal out of his age. Yes, he will be 29 when the season starts but by less than a month? You also need to take into consideration his amount of carries he has gotten over his career (very low). He is always in great shape. If the Jets were that high on the Washington/Houston combo I dont think they would've even traded for TJ, it makes no sense. I believe TJ has a good 3 years left as a starting RB and when it comes to dynasty teams i dont look any further than 3 years. Otherwise you end up being one of those owners that are ALWAYS building for the future.

 

[KellysHeroes]

TJ is 28 with not many carries.

T Jones \ Born: Aug 19, 1978\ will be 29 when the season beginsHe is signed to a 3 yr deal.. The Jets will have the back up plan ready to go when that contract is done..

29 yr old RBs brought in and signed to 3 yr deals are the short-term plan...

And TJ Lovers.. WHERE WOULD YOU PLACE HIM!!!!

Who you gona take off the list... Tell me

I think you're making a bigger deal out of his age. Yes, he will be 29 when the season starts but by less than a month? You also need to take into consideration his amount of carries he has gotten over his career (very low). He is always in great shape. If the Jets were that high on the Washington/Houston combo I dont think they would've even traded for TJ, it makes no sense. I believe TJ has a good 3 years left as a starting RB and when it comes to dynasty teams i dont look any further than 3 years. Otherwise you end up being one of those owners that are ALWAYS building for the future.

WHO ARE YOU TAKING OFF THE LIST THEN... I keep hearing from TJ lover; but not one of you has taken anyone off that list.

 

[cstu]

Fruity Pebbles, what is it that makes you shy away from SA? I am skiddish on him for dynasty purposes for a couple of reasons. First and formost is his age. He is getting up there. My second reason mitigates the first reason. Several years ago he stated that he wanted to leave the game on his own terms and with his youth and health intact. Or something to that effect. Perhaps this was nothing more than a negotiating tactic, pehaps it wasn't. He is reported to be a faithfilled Christian and so I will take him at his word. In years past that hasn't worried me too much. This year though I just cant escape the gut feeling that he may only play for one or two more years. Too much risk there to be taken with your first overall dynasty pick.

There's no way I'm ranking a 30 year old runningback 6th overall in a dynasty. That's a recipe for disaster. You may do OK the first year, maybe even the second year. But after that it's downhill and you have a gaping hole in your lineup. Saw it with Marshall Faulk, saw it with Priest Holmes, saw it with Tiki Barber. As soon as you draft Alexander that high, his value begins to drop immediately. Nobody wants to pay a lot for a 30 year old runningback so even if he plays well, he's hard to move. You're pretty much stuck with him until the end considering the price you paid for him.

I think 6 is a little high considering there are proven RB's who are much younger still available. I have him at about 10 since he should have 2-3 top 10 seasons left. It's hard to project RB's more than a couple seasons out anyway and SA is as safe as anyone. As far as the guys you mentioned, Faulk had serious knee problems for awhile before he retired, Priest was the #1 RB at age 30 and on his way to another #1 season at 31 before his knee injury, and Barber had a top 10 season at 31 before deciding to go into TV instead of playing football. So far SA hasn't taken much of a beating despite the number of carries he has had and the broken foot he had last year was minor on the scale of injuries for RB to have.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

TJ is 28 with not many carries.

T Jones \ Born: Aug 19, 1978\ will be 29 when the season beginsHe is signed to a 3 yr deal.. The Jets will have the back up plan ready to go when that contract is done..29 yr old RBs brought in and signed to 3 yr deals are the short-term plan...And TJ Lovers.. WHERE WOULD YOU PLACE HIM!!!!Who you gona take off the list... Tell me

Neither Chester Taylor nor Brandon Jacobs belong ahead of TJ. I could easily see the Vikings draft Peterson, and let's face it, Chester simply is not as talented as TJ. Nobody knows yet if Jacobs can carry the ball 25 times a game. He might split carries 60-40 or 50-50 with Droughns. I own TJ, and there is absolutely no way I'd give him up for Taylor or Jacobs straight up.ETA: overall, I think you've put together a great list!

 

[Riffraff]

Note to self: KellysHeroes does not appear to take criticism well.

(No need to freak out when you post your opinion about the future and another person posts a differing one. Both parties are equally right or wrong in the pre-season)

 

[fruity pebbles]

Fruity Pebbles, what is it that makes you shy away from SA? I am skiddish on him for dynasty purposes for a couple of reasons. First and formost is his age. He is getting up there. My second reason mitigates the first reason. Several years ago he stated that he wanted to leave the game on his own terms and with his youth and health intact. Or something to that effect. Perhaps this was nothing more than a negotiating tactic, pehaps it wasn't. He is reported to be a faithfilled Christian and so I will take him at his word. In years past that hasn't worried me too much. This year though I just cant escape the gut feeling that he may only play for one or two more years. Too much risk there to be taken with your first overall dynasty pick.

There's no way I'm ranking a 30 year old runningback 6th overall in a dynasty. That's a recipe for disaster. You may do OK the first year, maybe even the second year. But after that it's downhill and you have a gaping hole in your lineup. Saw it with Marshall Faulk, saw it with Priest Holmes, saw it with Tiki Barber. As soon as you draft Alexander that high, his value begins to drop immediately. Nobody wants to pay a lot for a 30 year old runningback so even if he plays well, he's hard to move. You're pretty much stuck with him until the end considering the price you paid for him.

I think 6 is a little high considering there are proven RB's who are much younger still available. I have him at about 10 since he should have 2-3 top 10 seasons left. It's hard to project RB's more than a couple seasons out anyway and SA is as safe as anyone. As far as the guys you mentioned, Faulk had serious knee problems for awhile before he retired, Priest was the #1 RB at age 30 and on his way to another #1 season at 31 before his knee injury, and Barber had a top 10 season at 31 before deciding to go into TV instead of playing football. So far SA hasn't taken much of a beating despite the number of carries he has had and the broken foot he had last year was minor on the scale of injuries for RB to have.

That's the point. Doesn't matter the reason. All 3 guys were done within 2 years of their 30th birthday. Taking out his big year of 2005, Alexander's numbers are good but very repeatable by quite a few guys on this list, all of them atleast a couple years younger. I mean what do you project Alexander at, maybe 1500 total yards and 14-15 TDs. Those are pretty close to Rudi numbers and he's younger and ranked much lower.

 

[Patoons]

TJ is 28 with not many carries.

T Jones \ Born: Aug 19, 1978\ will be 29 when the season beginsHe is signed to a 3 yr deal.. The Jets will have the back up plan ready to go when that contract is done..

29 yr old RBs brought in and signed to 3 yr deals are the short-term plan...

And TJ Lovers.. WHERE WOULD YOU PLACE HIM!!!!

Who you gona take off the list... Tell me

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2788962He actually signed a 4-year deal with over 50% guaranteed. I do not think that is a short-term answer. Why not sign him to a one year or two year deal if he's the short-term answer?

He should be around 20, imo.

 

[Slider]

Cadillac Williams- The new steal of most drafts.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Cadillac Williams- The new steal of most drafts.

Looks too high to me.

 

[Patoons]

KJ stunk in 2005, he had a decent season last yr; now he missing half this season..

Thats why I'll draft 25+ RBs before KJ

How do you know? There are conflicting reporst out there and no announcement from the team.MJD, imo, is going to be a monster. He's got fantastic vision and great back out of the backfield. He could easily be a Westbrook type of back in a year or two, regardless of Taylor's presence there.

Its our job as Fantasy owners to take calculated and educated guesses.Him missing siginificant time this season has far better odds then him being ready to go from the preseason and being healthy (i.e. having no setbacks) throughout the season. I, for one, dont think its even close to even odds. And this isnt about new injuries, but about the effects of the one he already has.

Yes, you can make calculated/educated guesses. However, who's to say he may miss half a season- it may be one game. There have been conflicting reports, so to say he is more likely to miss time seems to be unsupported. I think it's anyone's guess at this point. The info disclosed may also be red herrings for draft purposes to get someone to trade up for the #2.

It has been noted that he is ahead of schedule on his rehab and the signings of the other RBs may be more attributable to Calhoun being IR'd for 07. I don't think there is evidence out there to go one way or the other. We will know much more by mini-camps, but to say that he is "no going to miss half of 2007" is not a correct statement.

 

[Patoons]

Note to self: KellysHeroes does not appear to take criticism well. (No need to freak out when you post your opinion about the future and another person posts a differing one. Both parties are equally right or wrong in the pre-season)

IMO, if you post rankings, yuo'll be criticized- you just need to support your rankings with rational/logical arugments.

 

[Tag]

Cadillac Williams- The new steal of most drafts.

Looks too high to me.

In a PPR startup dynasty league i would take TJ over Caddy, mcgahee, THenry, DWilliams, Jacobs, Lendale White, Chester.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

KJ stunk in 2005, he had a decent season last yr; now he missing half this season..

Thats why I'll draft 25+ RBs before KJ

How do you know? There are conflicting reporst out there and no announcement from the team.MJD, imo, is going to be a monster. He's got fantastic vision and great back out of the backfield. He could easily be a Westbrook type of back in a year or two, regardless of Taylor's presence there.

Its our job as Fantasy owners to take calculated and educated guesses.Him missing siginificant time this season has far better odds then him being ready to go from the preseason and being healthy (i.e. having no setbacks) throughout the season. I, for one, dont think its even close to even odds. And this isnt about new injuries, but about the effects of the one he already has.

Yes, you can make calculated/educated guesses. However, who's to say he may miss half a season- it may be one game. There have been conflicting reports, so to say he is more likely to miss time seems to be unsupported. I think it's anyone's guess at this point. The info disclosed may also be red herrings for draft purposes to get someone to trade up for the #2.

It has been noted that he is ahead of schedule on his rehab and the signings of the other RBs may be more attributable to Calhoun being IR'd for 07. I don't think there is evidence out there to go one way or the other. We will know much more by mini-camps, but to say that he is "no going to miss half of 2007" is not a correct statement.

We are trying to make a determination and assess the value now....assuming you are a KJ owner...

You are betting that he can be one of your two RBs (as of today) and you will have a shot at the title.

Im betting you are in serious trouble. And KJ owners better get some big time insurance.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Note to self: KellysHeroes does not appear to take criticism well. (No need to freak out when you post your opinion about the future and another person posts a differing one. Both parties are equally right or wrong in the pre-season)

IMO, if you post rankings, yuo'll be criticized- you just need to support your rankings with rational/logical arugments.

I do like to build a fire every now and again...

In a PPR startup dynasty league i would take TJ over Caddy, mcgahee, THenry, DWilliams, Jacobs, Lendale White, Chester.

You would take a guy that a team will be looking to replace in about 2yrs over: Caddy - going into his 3rd yr, no competition Mcgahee - Signed for 7 yrs on a team built for the run T Henry - Denver running system D Williams - will be full-time starter either this yr or the next; Jacobs - maybe getting his chance in his 3rd yr L White - Totally agree w/ youChester - I could see this too.. wouldn't be my choice

 

[Tag]

Note to self: KellysHeroes does not appear to take criticism well. (No need to freak out when you post your opinion about the future and another person posts a differing one. Both parties are equally right or wrong in the pre-season)

IMO, if you post rankings, yuo'll be criticized- you just need to support your rankings with rational/logical arugments.

I do like to build a fire every now and again...

In a PPR startup dynasty league i would take TJ over Caddy, mcgahee, THenry, DWilliams, Jacobs, Lendale White, Chester.

You would take a guy that a team will be looking to replace in about 2yrs over: Caddy - going into his 3rd yr, no competition Mcgahee - Signed for 7 yrs on a team built for the run T Henry - Denver running system D Williams - will be full-time starter either this yr or the next; Jacobs - maybe getting his chance in his 3rd yr L White - Totally agree w/ youChester - I could see this too.. wouldn't be my choice

Jacobs is too risky with Droughns being signedCaddy - Sucks and doesnt catch many passesMcgahee - Sucks and doesnt catch many passesTHenry - 3 months younger than TJones and I dont trust shanny.Dwill - Unknown as a starterTJones is the surest thing for production NOW. Being 28 right now, always in great shape behind a very good, young O Line i dont see his production falling for the next 3 years.

 

[EBF]

I've thrown together the following rankings using the simple system of "Would I trade the below player for the above player?":

1. LaDainian Tomlinson

2. Steven Jackson

3. Reggie Bush

4. Larry Johnson

5. Brian Westbrook

6. Frank Gore

7. Clinton Portis

8. Laurence Maroney

9. Thomas Jones

10. Shaun Alexander

11. Rudi Johnson

12. Willie Parker

13. Maurice Drew

14. Carnell Williams

15. Joseph Addai

16. Travis Henry

17. DeAngelo Williams

18. Willis McGahee

19. Deuce McAllister

20. LenDale White

21. Cedric Benson

22. Ronnie Brown

23. Michael Turner

24. Chester Taylor

25. Ahman Green

CLOSE:

Edgerrin James - Can't ignore the 3.4 YPC and the season long run of 18 yards. Could surprise us though.

Chris Perry - I think he can perform if he gets a starting role. Good buy low in a dynasty.

Jerious Norwood - Just don't see him as a full-time starter.

Chris Brown - Worth a look at this point.

Marion Barber - Decent start to his career, but can he ever be the man? Has potential to leap up this list if he happens to earn a starting role.

NOTES:

- I'm obviously much higher on Thomas Jones than most. I feel that he is easily the best back on the NYJ roster and that he stands a very realistic chance of posting top ten seasons for the next 2-3 years.

- I'm down on Ronnie Brown. I never thought he was very good and he hasn't done much to change my mind.

- Kevin Jones would be a lot higher if not for his injury history. If healthy, he falls somewhere in the RB8-14 range.

- Joseph Addai has a lot of potential, but I'm not going to move him up until after he proves he can handle the full load.

- I like Ahman Green in a redraft. I just don't think he has much left in the tank.

- If Cadillac Williams can stay healthy, he can be a great player.

- I feel like Chester Taylor is a marginal talent in a good situation. I see him being replaced sooner than most expect.

- It's tough to rank a guy like Drew. I don't exactly know what to expect from him. Is he another Westbrook, or just a glorified third down back? Tough to say.

- I'm not optimistic about Larry Johnson's long-term prospects at this point. The supporting cast is weak and he's being overworked.

 

[fruity pebbles]

I've thrown together the following rankings using the simple system of "Would I trade the below player for the above player?":1. LaDainian Tomlinson2. Steven Jackson3. Reggie Bush4. Larry Johnson5. Brian Westbrook6. Frank Gore7. Clinton Portis8. Laurence Maroney9. Thomas Jones10. Shaun Alexander11. Rudi Johnson12. Willie Parker13. Maurice Drew14. Carnell Williams15. Joseph Addai16. Travis Henry17. DeAngelo Williams18. Willis McGahee19. Deuce McAllister20. LenDale White21. Cedric Benson22. Ronnie Brown23. Michael Turner24. Chester Taylor 25. Ahman GreenCLOSE:Edgerrin James - Can't ignore the 3.4 YPC and the season long run of 18 yards. Could surprise us though.Chris Perry - I think he can perform if he gets a starting role. Good buy low in a dynasty. Jerious Norwood - Just don't see him as a full-time starter. Chris Brown - Worth a look at this point. Marion Barber - Decent start to his career, but can he ever be the man? Has potential to leap up this list if he happens to earn a starting role. NOTES:- I'm obviously much higher on Thomas Jones than most. I feel that he is easily the best back on the NYJ roster and that he stands a very realistic chance of posting top ten seasons for the next 2-3 years.- I'm down on Ronnie Brown. I never thought he was very good and he hasn't done much to change my mind.- Kevin Jones would be a lot higher if not for his injury history. If healthy, he falls somewhere in the RB8-14 range. - Joseph Addai has a lot of potential, but I'm not going to move him up until after he proves he can handle the full load. - I like Ahman Green in a redraft. I just don't think he has much left in the tank. - If Cadillac Williams can stay healthy, he can be a great player. - I feel like Chester Taylor is a marginal talent in a good situation. I see him being replaced sooner than most expect. - It's tough to rank a guy like Drew. I don't exactly know what to expect from him. Is he another Westbrook, or just a glorified third down back? Tough to say. - I'm not optimistic about Larry Johnson's long-term prospects at this point. The supporting cast is weak and he's being overworked.

Where would you put Peterson and Lynch as of now?

 

[Benchwarmers]

I think Ronnie Brown at 22 is a huge steal. Hope I get him in the early 3rd of my draft.

Henry will be pretty good in the Broncos system.

Kevin Jones when healthy is pretty good running back so if he comes back healthy he will outperform some of the bottom 25 on the last list. I think Detroit moves a rb after the draft when Green Bay and Buffalo find out they dont have a starter.

 

[cstu]

9. Thomas JonesCLOSE:NOTES:- I'm obviously much higher on Thomas Jones than most. I feel that he is easily the best back on the NYJ roster and that he stands a very realistic chance of posting top ten seasons for the next 2-3 years.

Even though I traded him away for Chester Taylor (roster reasons for that), I agree with you on TJ. #9 is higher than I'd put him, but it's easy for me to see him having 3 good seasons to finish his career like Curtis Martin or Tiki Barber.

- I feel like Chester Taylor is a marginal talent in a good situation. I see him being replaced sooner than most expect.

While I don't think he's the most talented RB in the league, I like his track record (4 straight years of 4.0+ YPC), receiving ability (nice in PPR), and his OL. I don't see him losing his job barring injury since he does all the things a team needs him to do (rushing, receiving, blocking).

 

[Patoons]

You are betting that he can be one of your two RBs (as of today) and you will have a shot at the title.Im betting you are in serious trouble. And KJ owners better get some big time insurance.

These are rankings and not assessment of fantasy team situations or redraft rankings. KJ for dynasty purposes, I would think, needs to be in the top 25 considering he's 24, had a very solid year last season and is reported to be rehabbing well.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

You are betting that he can be one of your two RBs (as of today) and you will have a shot at the title.

Im betting you are in serious trouble. And KJ owners better get some big time insurance.

These are rankings and not assessment of fantasy team situations or redraft rankings. KJ for dynasty purposes, I would think, needs to be in the top 25 considering he's 24, had a very solid year last season and is reported to be rehabbing well.

Some reports...I think there are still significant questions about how this injury will affect Kevin Jones' value throughout 2007 and maybe beyond. The whole Kevin Jones situation seems clear as mud to me.

 

[redman]

Bush would be in front of Gore if it weren't for Duece.. right now; Gore is uncontested for his position while Bush still has atleast another yr of sharing

Sorry, this just always reads funny to me in light of recent history.

 

[Patoons]

Some reports...I think there are still significant questions about how this injury will affect Kevin Jones' value throughout 2007 and maybe beyond. The whole Kevin Jones situation seems clear as mud to me.

I agree- i posted conflicting reports above- still think he's got to hit top 25

 

[EBF]

I've thrown together the following rankings using the simple system of "Would I trade the below player for the above player?":1. LaDainian Tomlinson2. Steven Jackson3. Reggie Bush4. Larry Johnson5. Brian Westbrook6. Frank Gore7. Clinton Portis8. Laurence Maroney9. Thomas Jones10. Shaun Alexander11. Rudi Johnson12. Willie Parker13. Maurice Drew14. Carnell Williams15. Joseph Addai16. Travis Henry17. DeAngelo Williams18. Willis McGahee19. Deuce McAllister20. LenDale White21. Cedric Benson22. Ronnie Brown23. Michael Turner24. Chester Taylor 25. Ahman GreenCLOSE:Edgerrin James - Can't ignore the 3.4 YPC and the season long run of 18 yards. Could surprise us though.Chris Perry - I think he can perform if he gets a starting role. Good buy low in a dynasty. Jerious Norwood - Just don't see him as a full-time starter. Chris Brown - Worth a look at this point. Marion Barber - Decent start to his career, but can he ever be the man? Has potential to leap up this list if he happens to earn a starting role. NOTES:- I'm obviously much higher on Thomas Jones than most. I feel that he is easily the best back on the NYJ roster and that he stands a very realistic chance of posting top ten seasons for the next 2-3 years.- I'm down on Ronnie Brown. I never thought he was very good and he hasn't done much to change my mind.- Kevin Jones would be a lot higher if not for his injury history. If healthy, he falls somewhere in the RB8-14 range. - Joseph Addai has a lot of potential, but I'm not going to move him up until after he proves he can handle the full load. - I like Ahman Green in a redraft. I just don't think he has much left in the tank. - If Cadillac Williams can stay healthy, he can be a great player. - I feel like Chester Taylor is a marginal talent in a good situation. I see him being replaced sooner than most expect. - It's tough to rank a guy like Drew. I don't exactly know what to expect from him. Is he another Westbrook, or just a glorified third down back? Tough to say. - I'm not optimistic about Larry Johnson's long-term prospects at this point. The supporting cast is weak and he's being overworked.

Where would you put Peterson and Lynch as of now?

Peterson is a tough call. On a good team, I might go as high as 6 or 7. But on a bad team, I might go as low as 15. He probably belongs somewhere in the middle of those two numbers. He has tons of upside and could easily become a top 3 back, but there's also some serious bust risk to consider (mostly due to situational/injury factors as opposed to talent). I'm on the fence about Lynch. A part of me thinks he's going to become a very solid NFL starter. Another part of me thinks he's a little overrated. I'd probably lump him somewhere between 17-22.

 

[EBF]

You are betting that he can be one of your two RBs (as of today) and you will have a shot at the title.Im betting you are in serious trouble. And KJ owners better get some big time insurance.

These are rankings and not assessment of fantasy team situations or redraft rankings. KJ for dynasty purposes, I would think, needs to be in the top 25 considering he's 24, had a very solid year last season and is reported to be rehabbing well.

I really think he's a solid player. The injury is just very, very scary. There's a lot of upside there and if he makes a full recovery then he's easily a top 10-15 back. But will this be another Domanick Davis situation? Tough to tell.That said, he probably does belong in the top 25. Somewhere between 17-25 seems about right.