Dynasty Rookie #12 (1 Viewer)

[jeter23]

For those of you who own the 1.11 rookie pick in your dynasty league, or those that would like to own it, who are you taking?

Feel free to take your league rules and other details into account, as they are not specified. PPR, scarcity of RBs and obviously, team need would affect each vote.

1.01 Michael Crabtree, WR 38% (Moreno, 27%)

1.02 Knowshon Moreno, RB 62% (Wells, 17%)

1.03 Chris Wells, RB 45% (McCoy, 35%)

1.04 LeSean McCoy, RB 71% (Greene, 17%)

1.05 Shonn Greene, RB 52% (Maclin, 21%)

1.06 Jeremy Maclin, WR 58% (Harvin, 19%)

1.07 Percy Harvin, WR 44% (Brown, 17%)

1.08 Donald Brown, RB 40% (Stafford, 29%)

1.09 Darius Heyward-Bey, WR 34% (Stafford, 32%)

1.10 Matt Stafford, QB 43% (Britt, 24%)

1.11 Kenny Britt, WR 34% (Sanchez, 18%)

 

[jeter23]

I took a few of the guys off if they received 1 or 0 votes.

Also, would everyone like to see the polls continue past 12?

 

[Yitbos69]

yes continue

 

[Holland Freeze]

Definitely continue - the picks are beginning to get interesting

 

[•TheRealMcCoy]

I took a few of the guys off if they received 1 or 0 votes. Also, would everyone like to see the polls continue past 12?

Please continue past 12!! I have 2 - 2nd rders(traded my 1st rder at some point for a vet) and Im interested to see who is there at 17/22??

 

[FUBAR]

Continue, but add IDP, at least as a 2nd poll.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

Continue, but add IDP, at least as a 2nd poll.

i'd like that as well

 

[tones]

Love the poll would enjoy seeing it continue and adding IDP would have some value but what scoring would you use. IDP tends to differ a lot more the offense.

Would you consider doing this again after the draft in April?

 

[awesomeness]

i'm against adding IDP to the polls. If you're gonna do IDP, you should do it from the start, you shouldn't just add it half way through.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

i'm against adding IDP to the polls. If you're gonna do IDP, you should do it from the start, you shouldn't just add it half way through.

 

[Burning Sensation]

i'm against adding IDP to the polls. If you're gonna do IDP, you should do it from the start, you shouldn't just add it half way through.

I dont think it matters. No IDP's would go in the first round anyway.

 

[MAC_32]

i'm against adding IDP to the polls. If you're gonna do IDP, you should do it from the start, you shouldn't just add it half way through.

I dont think it matters. No IDP's would go in the first round anyway.

I strongly disagree with this statement, and strongly agree with awesomeness'.This one can probably be closed, not surprisingly, Nicks in a landslide.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

 

[jeter23]

We won't do IDP, mainly because of the reasons listed above. Since it did not start that way, we won't change now.

I will keep going with the 2nd round.

I (or someone else) will probably do another around the Combine and then post-draft as well. It's a LONG offseason.

 

[FUBAR]

i'm against adding IDP to the polls. If you're gonna do IDP, you should do it from the start, you shouldn't just add it half way through.

We're adding players we'd consider taking here. IMO, there are no IDPs this year that I'd take top 12, so I didn't mention them before. Either way is fine, and I somewhat agree with scoring being the reason not to include them here, but I would like to see where people would take their IDPs, just mention it in the thread as I will.

 

[FUBAR]

i'm against adding IDP to the polls. If you're gonna do IDP, you should do it from the start, you shouldn't just add it half way through.

I dont think it matters. No IDP's would go in the first round anyway.

I strongly disagree with this statement, and strongly agree with awesomeness'.This one can probably be closed, not surprisingly, Nicks in a landslide.

I assume you're referring to Curry or Maualuga. Would you actually take them top 12?

 

[jeter23]

I think some of the IDP guys also do these polls in that forum as well.

 

[MAC_32]

i'm against adding IDP to the polls. If you're gonna do IDP, you should do it from the start, you shouldn't just add it half way through.

I dont think it matters. No IDP's would go in the first round anyway.

I strongly disagree with this statement, and strongly agree with awesomeness'.This one can probably be closed, not surprisingly, Nicks in a landslide.

I assume you're referring to Curry or Maualuga. Would you actually take them top 12?

I would strongly consider them in the latter portion of round 1, yes. Elite LBs vs. good RBs/WRs vs. risky QBs vs. non elite TEs, elite LB's are definitely in the conversation. I had Lofton ranked #9 overall (I believe) come draft season last year.

 

[Holland Freeze]

i'm against adding IDP to the polls. If you're gonna do IDP, you should do it from the start, you shouldn't just add it half way through.

I dont think it matters. No IDP's would go in the first round anyway.

This year appears average and defensive players would not be seriously considered until the later part of the 2nd round. A bigger reason for not including IDP's is the fact that so many leagues still do not include them.

 

[awesomeness]

i'm against adding IDP to the polls. If you're gonna do IDP, you should do it from the start, you shouldn't just add it half way through.

I dont think it matters. No IDP's would go in the first round anyway.

I strongly disagree with this statement, and strongly agree with awesomeness'.This one can probably be closed, not surprisingly, Nicks in a landslide.

I assume you're referring to Curry or Maualuga. Would you actually take them top 12?

It really depends on the scoring system. In my main league Jon Beason and Patrick Willis were in the top 10 in scoring. In last years draft 2 defensive players were taken in the first round.

 

[FUBAR]

i'm against adding IDP to the polls. If you're gonna do IDP, you should do it from the start, you shouldn't just add it half way through.

I dont think it matters. No IDP's would go in the first round anyway.

I strongly disagree with this statement, and strongly agree with awesomeness'.This one can probably be closed, not surprisingly, Nicks in a landslide.

I assume you're referring to Curry or Maualuga. Would you actually take them top 12?

I would strongly consider them in the latter portion of round 1, yes. Elite LBs vs. good RBs/WRs vs. risky QBs vs. non elite TEs, elite LB's are definitely in the conversation. I had Lofton ranked #9 overall (I believe) come draft season last year.

IMO you had Lofton way too high then. Are any of these LBs "elite"? I'm not seeing it - they can be very good, but no better a LB than Pettigrew will be a TE. I suppose it depends on your league, but in most of mine, an above average starting TE is worth more than an above average starting LB. The top rookie TE will almost certainly go before the top rookie LB. In the last 6 years in my drafts (as far as I looked back), the only time a LB went before a TE was Willis before Olsen in one league.

I'm not saying it holds for all leagues, but from my experience, you can acquire good to great LBs a lot cheaper than good to great TEs. Elite LBs can usually be acquired for good RBs or WRs, and usually you could get an elite young LB for a mid-late 1st in a trade.

 

[MAC_32]

i'm against adding IDP to the polls. If you're gonna do IDP, you should do it from the start, you shouldn't just add it half way through.

I dont think it matters. No IDP's would go in the first round anyway.

I strongly disagree with this statement, and strongly agree with awesomeness'.This one can probably be closed, not surprisingly, Nicks in a landslide.

I assume you're referring to Curry or Maualuga. Would you actually take them top 12?

I would strongly consider them in the latter portion of round 1, yes. Elite LBs vs. good RBs/WRs vs. risky QBs vs. non elite TEs, elite LB's are definitely in the conversation. I had Lofton ranked #9 overall (I believe) come draft season last year.

IMO you had Lofton way too high then. Are any of these LBs "elite"? I'm not seeing it - they can be very good, but no better a LB than Pettigrew will be a TE. I suppose it depends on your league, but in most of mine, an above average starting TE is worth more than an above average starting LB. The top rookie TE will almost certainly go before the top rookie LB. In the last 6 years in my drafts (as far as I looked back), the only time a LB went before a TE was Willis before Olsen in one league.

I'm not saying it holds for all leagues, but from my experience, you can acquire good to great LBs a lot cheaper than good to great TEs. Elite LBs can usually be acquired for good RBs or WRs, and usually you could get an elite young LB for a mid-late 1st in a trade.

My rookie rankings come draft season looked something like1 J Stew

2 DMC

3 Mendenhall

4 Chris Johnson

5 Ray Rice

6 Forte

7 Kevin Smith

8 Felix Jones

9 Curtis Lofton

There weren't any 'special' WRs (Jordy Nelson and DeSean Jackson were 1-2 on my board, I could likely get either of them in the 2nd round), the drop off at RB looked relatively steep in my eyes after the top 8 (Hightower and Torain both made interesting cases, but I didn't like their risk in round 1), and I was not at all sold on any QB's/TE's at this point (obviously I was wrong on Keller and Ryan). Lofton made sense there.

I agree that an above avg starting TE is worth more than an above avg starting LB, I didn't see any above avg starting TE's in the 08 class. I saw avg, lots of it. I thought (and still think) Lofton will be an above avg LB (possibly elite, more likely a quality LB2), I think we'll have a better idea come fall 09 if I'm right or not.

 

[Warhogs]

I too will enter a plea to include IDP or maybe we can just jump off and have another poll that includes IDP? My reasoning is that it is easier to adjust the poll results by taking out IDP if you don't use them but it is impossible to add them. It is the OP poll so however he wants to handle it, but I think we may want to do a spinoff poll in the very least to incorporate IDP.

 

[Chachi]

I too will enter a plea to include IDP or maybe we can just jump off and have another poll that includes IDP? My reasoning is that it is easier to adjust the poll results by taking out IDP if you don't use them but it is impossible to add them. It is the OP poll so however he wants to handle it, but I think we may want to do a spinoff poll in the very least to incorporate IDP.

It's a good idea but the problem would be having it in the shark pool, lots of guys who don't play in IDP would vote in the spinoff poll. The best thing to do would be someone pickup a spinoff poll in the IDP forum (I'll volunteer if you like) and pickup at pick #14 and include Curry/Rey/Laurinitas or whoever people want.

 

[Holland Freeze]

I too will enter a plea to include IDP or maybe we can just jump off and have another poll that includes IDP? My reasoning is that it is easier to adjust the poll results by taking out IDP if you don't use them but it is impossible to add them. It is the OP poll so however he wants to handle it, but I think we may want to do a spinoff poll in the very least to incorporate IDP.

How about starting another one but keep this one going - to avoid confusion maybe the other should be in the IDP forum.

 

[Chachi]

I too will enter a plea to include IDP or maybe we can just jump off and have another poll that includes IDP? My reasoning is that it is easier to adjust the poll results by taking out IDP if you don't use them but it is impossible to add them. It is the OP poll so however he wants to handle it, but I think we may want to do a spinoff poll in the very least to incorporate IDP.

How about starting another one but keep this one going - to avoid confusion maybe the other should be in the IDP forum.

Exactly.

 

[Warhogs]

That would be awesome if you were willing to add IDPers in a spinoff thread in the IDP forum Chachi. I don't feel comfortable enough with my overall knowledge of the rookie IDPers to do it myself so I am behind you 100%.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

A comment to add - please, for reference's sake - it'd be nice to state in Post 1 when the polls were open and closed (for a frame of reference).

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

IDP has to be relegated to the IDP forum.

Sorry, but with 80%+ of leagues leaning to offense only, the IDPs would be (wrongly) too low in the Shark Pool and give IDP leaguers too much confidence that the IDPs would last longer in their drafts.