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I've never checked that place out before. Now that I checked out a bunch of there content it makes me appreciate this place even more. :unsure:

 
I downloaded one of their podcats....5 minutes of it was enough to know its should be fantasyguppies.com

 
In fairness to that site, they had Mike Williams ranked 1a and Dez Bryant as 1b. I am certainly in the minority but I agree with their assessment.

When he quit he was on target for 1,275 yards + 10TDs to go along with the 837yards + 10TDs as a sophomore and his 461 yards + 4 TDs (on 24 receptions) as a freshman. When you look at player's histories you want to see progression like that. It’s all the more impressive for the fact that it's Greg Paulus at QB (2,025yds, 13: 14 TD: INTs) for Syracuse & not a Sam Bradford, a Colt McCoy, a Zac Robinson etc.
49 receptions for 746 yards and six TDs in only seven games last year from a QB who had never started a football game in college before shows Williams can produce regardless.
I also agree with their rankings of D. Thomas. Who in my opinion is slow, stiff, lacks lateral agility, and has no explosion.
 
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Clausen is rejected because he threw out of the shotgun 3 out of every 4 times , and because Brady Quinn. I understand knocking guys down your board, but not ranking them at all is just absurd.

 
Clausen is rejected because he threw out of the shotgun 3 out of every 4 times , and because Brady Quinn. I understand knocking guys down your board, but not ranking them at all is just absurd.
All they're really saying is they like Webb more than Clausen and Dixon/Starks more than Dwyer. They didn't rank every rookie available. They only ranked 7 RBs, for instance. Should we be all offended they forgot about Deji Karim? Probably not.The Clausen analysis is lazy, but I have no problem with them going out on a limb for guys like Starks, Armanti, and Moeaki. I think a lot of their reaches they got right.
 
Clausen is rejected because he threw out of the shotgun 3 out of every 4 times , and because Brady Quinn. I understand knocking guys down your board, but not ranking them at all is just absurd.
All they're really saying is they like Webb more than Clausen and Dixon/Starks more than Dwyer. They didn't rank every rookie available. They only ranked 7 RBs, for instance. Should we be all offended they forgot about Deji Karim? Probably not.The Clausen analysis is lazy, but I have no problem with them going out on a limb for guys like Starks, Armanti, and Moeaki. I think a lot of their reaches they got right.
I take the decision to not rank very deep as a sort of designation between draftable and undraftable - or at least worth following and worth ignoring.
 
I take the decision to not rank very deep as a sort of designation between draftable and undraftable - or at least worth following and worth ignoring.
One telling note was:
The best you can hope for with Dwyer is TD vultures and I’m pretty confident you'll be able to pick him up off the WW throughout the season with relative ease.
They're basing it off a shallow league.
 
I take the decision to not rank very deep as a sort of designation between draftable and undraftable - or at least worth following and worth ignoring.
One telling note was:
The best you can hope for with Dwyer is TD vultures and I’m pretty confident you'll be able to pick him up off the WW throughout the season with relative ease.
They're basing it off a shallow league.
a dynasty league would have to have only 16 roster spots for Dwyer to be on the WW
 
adrenaline said:
I've never checked that place out before. Now that I checked out a bunch of there content it makes me appreciate this place even more. :lmao:
Apples and Oranges. This is a pay site, the other site is free. BIG difference.I do use this site more and enjoy this site more but their rankings are being ripped while a staffer here has CJ Spiller at #15 on this site and has guys like Anthony Dixon and multiple pathetic WRS ahead of him, I think Spiller at #15 on a PAY site is worse than any of those FREE rankings. And just to show those who will think I'm a pissed Spiller owner, the fact is I don't own Spiller who went #3 overall and do own Dixon who I took in the 5th round as a handcuff.Let's keep things in perspective before dogging another site, especially one that is free to use.
 
That site HAS to be a leaguemate's "secret weapon" that he won't tell me about. With his 4 round rookie draft last year he took: Javon Ringer, Travis Beckum, Bear Pascoe, and some guy whose name I couldn't even tie to football. He's insisting they were good picks, just long-term investments.

 
TheWick said:
I downloaded one of their podcats....5 minutes of it was enough to know its should be fantasyguppies.com
Are those the guys that spend 20 minutes talking about how they are going to be giving away mini-helmets? :thumbup:
 
adrenaline said:
I've never checked that place out before. Now that I checked out a bunch of there content it makes me appreciate this place even more. :thumbup:
Apples and Oranges. This is a pay site, the other site is free. BIG difference.I do use this site more and enjoy this site more but their rankings are being ripped while a staffer here has CJ Spiller at #15 on this site and has guys like Anthony Dixon and multiple pathetic WRS ahead of him, I think Spiller at #15 on a PAY site is worse than any of those FREE rankings. And just to show those who will think I'm a pissed Spiller owner, the fact is I don't own Spiller who went #3 overall and do own Dixon who I took in the 5th round as a handcuff.Let's keep things in perspective before dogging another site, especially one that is free to use.
:goodposting:
 
adrenaline said:
I've never checked that place out before. Now that I checked out a bunch of there content it makes me appreciate this place even more. :goodposting:
Apples and Oranges. This is a pay site, the other site is free. BIG difference.I do use this site more and enjoy this site more but their rankings are being ripped while a staffer here has CJ Spiller at #15 on this site and has guys like Anthony Dixon and multiple pathetic WRS ahead of him, I think Spiller at #15 on a PAY site is worse than any of those FREE rankings. And just to show those who will think I'm a pissed Spiller owner, the fact is I don't own Spiller who went #3 overall and do own Dixon who I took in the 5th round as a handcuff.Let's keep things in perspective before dogging another site, especially one that is free to use.
I have to agree with MS here. Paying to have somebody rank Spiller at 15 is alot worse than a free site having Jimmy Claussen outside the top 6-7 QB's. The reasons were not the best, but i tend to agree that Claussen will not be a NFL starter, or good one anyway.I dont ususally like when a person/site ranks too far off the norm, but i thought they did a real good job doing so, and explaining why...for the most part. I have been saying the same things about Starks here for months, so i really like that call. Mike Williams at 1a is gutsy, but they make alot of good points. I also like how they didnt let the size of Edwards and Mccluster deter them from a high ranking. I couldnt be any sicker of hearing "prototypical size" when talking about a players attributes.I dont like Hernandez at #2, but that seems to be the popular opinion right now.I also agree with Ben Tate, he should have no problem running away with the #1 spot in Houston. The Texans knew they didnt have a starting RB on their roster, and when the Chargers spoiled their plans of getting Mathews, they went to plan B and got the 2nd option. They must like him, they traded down instead of taking Gerhart and then traded back up to get Tate. If he wasnt banged up right now, he would be getting alot more hype.
 
Clausen is rejected because he threw out of the shotgun 3 out of every 4 times , and because Brady Quinn. I understand knocking guys down your board, but not ranking them at all is just absurd.
Was he rejected because of that? I think their point was he is not as pro ready as people are saying, because pro offenses dont throw out of the shotgun 3 out of 4 times.
 
I downloaded one of their podcats....5 minutes of it was enough to know its should be fantasyguppies.com
Are those the guys that spend 20 minutes talking about how they are going to be giving away mini-helmets? :goodposting:
I just had a similar experience, making me appreciate Blammey even more... a couple of guys spent a few minutes talking about Austin Miles and how he wasn't worth the 1.12 in a 3-player keeper league where you can't keep first round picks... I turned it off at that point.
 
Cecil and Bloom are the BEST. Informative and enjoyable. I haven't tried any other podcasts except one called Red/White/Blue or something like that and it was horrible, it wasn't even about football or sports as advertised, it was about about nonsense like their trip to the golf course and their girlfriends and their bowling scores, their ingrown toenails, there was a little freaking soccer in there LOL, boring, boring, boring, I was on a long roadtrip and decided to listen to a Cecil and Bloom repeat that I just listened to two days prior.

 
Clausen is rejected because he threw out of the shotgun 3 out of every 4 times , and because Brady Quinn. I understand knocking guys down your board, but not ranking them at all is just absurd.
Was he rejected because of that? I think their point was he is not as pro ready as people are saying, because pro offenses dont throw out of the shotgun 3 out of 4 times.
Anytime any part of a reason for rejecting a player contains the phrase, "Went to the same school as......" it's usually a good time to stop listening.Bringing up Quinn only makes sense if they both played in some Texas Tech offense where they never had to make pro passes or reads. And, now that I say that, we were also told Aaron Rodgers wasn't a prospect because he played for Tedford at Cal. And if you ARE gonna bring up Quinn, make a decent comparison or argument. Don't just give me, 'Quinn went there, and look how that worked out....'If just any old shlub on the message boards here had made the same argument, there would have been plenty of people pointing out a weak argument. Some guy writing for a website doesn't necessarily have MORE cred, and doesn't get a pass because the site is free.
 
So it's one guy's opinion, not some "official" ranking of Fantasysharks. No big deal.

If we want to be completely honest, there are a few FBG staffers who have no business providing rankings but do so anyway.

 
Clausen is rejected because he threw out of the shotgun 3 out of every 4 times , and because Brady Quinn. I understand knocking guys down your board, but not ranking them at all is just absurd.
Was he rejected because of that? I think their point was he is not as pro ready as people are saying, because pro offenses dont throw out of the shotgun 3 out of 4 times.
Anytime any part of a reason for rejecting a player contains the phrase, "Went to the same school as......" it's usually a good time to stop listening.Bringing up Quinn only makes sense if they both played in some Texas Tech offense where they never had to make pro passes or reads. And, now that I say that, we were also told Aaron Rodgers wasn't a prospect because he played for Tedford at Cal. And if you ARE gonna bring up Quinn, make a decent comparison or argument. Don't just give me, 'Quinn went there, and look how that worked out....'If just any old shlub on the message boards here had made the same argument, there would have been plenty of people pointing out a weak argument. Some guy writing for a website doesn't necessarily have MORE cred, and doesn't get a pass because the site is free.
Like i said, i thought the argument was poor, but i dont think that is why they were down on him. They were simply pointing out that one of the positives that is being thrown around for Claussen is that he is more pro-ready, and that he may not be as pre-ready as people think. Of course due to playing almost exclusively out of the shotgun. I still thought they were going to follow it up with why they didnt like him, and they didnt, so yeah, it was a poor argument.
 
So it's one guy's opinion, not some "official" ranking of Fantasysharks. No big deal.If we want to be completely honest, there are a few FBG staffers who have no business providing rankings but do so anyway.
For example, anyone other than Herman who ranks kickers.
 
So it's one guy's opinion, not some "official" ranking of Fantasysharks. No big deal.If we want to be completely honest, there are a few FBG staffers who have no business providing rankings but do so anyway.
For example, anyone other than Herman who ranks kickers.
;) I didn't mean to stir the pot with that comment, it just sort of came out, and I'm not naming names. Someone I may think provides screwy rankings may be someone else's favorite. To each his own. I do like the feature added last year that allows rankings to be explained using the scroll over. It helps explain some of the aberrational rankings sometimes. But usually screwy is still screwy, explained or not. :censored:
 
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So it's one guy's opinion, not some "official" ranking of Fantasysharks. No big deal.If we want to be completely honest, there are a few FBG staffers who have no business providing rankings but do so anyway.
For example, anyone other than Herman who ranks kickers.
:lol: I didn't mean to stir the pot with that comment, it just sort of came out, and I'm not naming names. Someone I may think provides screwy rankings may be someone else's favorite. To each his own. I do like the feature added last year that allows rankings to be explained using the scroll over. It helps explain some of the aberrational rankings sometimes. But usually screwy is still screwy, explained or not. :)
:blackdot: I really enjoy reading people's rationale, it is much more important than the actual ranking, imo. The rationale provided by many "experts", including some FBG staff, is, well, screwy. Some people have serious blind spots with some players.
 
I don't see too much of a problem with the article. Do I agree with it all, no, but it gives you a different angle to think about it. I love the stuff I get here at FBG's, but it is not the only FF info out there and with the hit/miss rate of rookies in FF, sometimes it pays to think different than the "norm." Think out of the box if you will and sometimes you will hit a homerun. It often pays to be agressive and different. It is kinda like bluffing in poker, you have to play the cards different or you become predictable and therefore beatable!

 
I don't see too much of a problem with the article. Do I agree with it all, no, but it gives you a different angle to think about it. I love the stuff I get here at FBG's, but it is not the only FF info out there and with the hit/miss rate of rookies in FF, sometimes it pays to think different than the "norm." Think out of the box if you will and sometimes you will hit a homerun. It often pays to be agressive and different. It is kinda like bluffing in poker, you have to play the cards different or you become predictable and therefore beatable!
Nah, just draft good players and it doesn't matter how predictable you are.
 
Colt McCoy - #2 QB Good call

John Skelton - #4 QB Better call than most would have thought

Jimmy Clausen - no ranking Not clear yet, but not unreasonable.

Spiller - #5 RB Sounds good.

James Starks - #6 RB Sounds good.

Mike Williams - #1 WR Very good call so far. Dez is probably better long-term, but it's not certain.

Dexter McCluster - #4 WR Not looking good here.

Armanti Edwards - #5 WR Not looking good here.

Demaryius Thomas - no ranking Didn't show anything before a major injury. Not clear yet.

Tony Moeaki - #1 TE Not clear yet, but certainly possible.

Aaron Hernandez - #2 TE Great call.

Jimmy Graham - #3 TE Great call.

Rob Gronkowski - no ranking Major miss so far.

I think these rankings might have been better than the mainstream consensus.

 
Colt McCoy - #2 QB Good call

John Skelton - #4 QB Better call than most would have thought

Jimmy Clausen - no ranking Not clear yet, but not unreasonable.

Spiller - #5 RB Sounds good.

James Starks - #6 RB Sounds good.

Mike Williams - #1 WR Very good call so far. Dez is probably better long-term, but it's not certain.

Dexter McCluster - #4 WR Not looking good here.

Armanti Edwards - #5 WR Not looking good here.

Demaryius Thomas - no ranking Didn't show anything before a major injury. Not clear yet.

Tony Moeaki - #1 TE Not clear yet, but certainly possible.

Aaron Hernandez - #2 TE Great call.

Jimmy Graham - #3 TE Great call.

Rob Gronkowski - no ranking Major miss so far.

I think these rankings might have been better than the mainstream consensus.
You're right...what appeared to be reaches by several players were spot on.
 
Colt McCoy - #2 QB Good call

John Skelton - #4 QB Better call than most would have thought

Jimmy Clausen - no ranking Not clear yet, but not unreasonable.

Spiller - #5 RB Sounds good.

James Starks - #6 RB Sounds good.

Mike Williams - #1 WR Very good call so far. Dez is probably better long-term, but it's not certain.

Dexter McCluster - #4 WR Not looking good here.

Armanti Edwards - #5 WR Not looking good here.

Demaryius Thomas - no ranking Didn't show anything before a major injury. Not clear yet.

Tony Moeaki - #1 TE Not clear yet, but certainly possible.

Aaron Hernandez - #2 TE Great call.

Jimmy Graham - #3 TE Great call.

Rob Gronkowski - no ranking Major miss so far.

I think these rankings might have been better than the mainstream consensus.
You're right...what appeared to be reaches by several players were spot on.
Not sure how you can say many of these calls are spot on if it's about dynasty rankings. the good and bad calls could change over the next couple of years.

 
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Colt McCoy - #2 QB Good call

John Skelton - #4 QB Better call than most would have thought

Jimmy Clausen - no ranking Not clear yet, but not unreasonable.

Spiller - #5 RB Sounds good.

James Starks - #6 RB Sounds good.

Mike Williams - #1 WR Very good call so far. Dez is probably better long-term, but it's not certain.

Dexter McCluster - #4 WR Not looking good here.

Armanti Edwards - #5 WR Not looking good here.

Demaryius Thomas - no ranking Didn't show anything before a major injury. Not clear yet.

Tony Moeaki - #1 TE Not clear yet, but certainly possible.

Aaron Hernandez - #2 TE Great call.

Jimmy Graham - #3 TE Great call.

Rob Gronkowski - no ranking Major miss so far.

I think these rankings might have been better than the mainstream consensus.
Yup, that was my take as well. If they do another set of rankings this year, I'll be interested to check it out.
 
Colt McCoy - #2 QB Good call

John Skelton - #4 QB Better call than most would have thought

Jimmy Clausen - no ranking Not clear yet, but not unreasonable.

Spiller - #5 RB Sounds good.

James Starks - #6 RB Sounds good.

Mike Williams - #1 WR Very good call so far. Dez is probably better long-term, but it's not certain.

Dexter McCluster - #4 WR Not looking good here.

Armanti Edwards - #5 WR Not looking good here.

Demaryius Thomas - no ranking Didn't show anything before a major injury. Not clear yet.

Tony Moeaki - #1 TE Not clear yet, but certainly possible.

Aaron Hernandez - #2 TE Great call.

Jimmy Graham - #3 TE Great call.

Rob Gronkowski - no ranking Major miss so far.

I think these rankings might have been better than the mainstream consensus.
Yup, that was my take as well. If they do another set of rankings this year, I'll be interested to check it out.
Like everyone else, they had some nice calls and some bad ones. What i like most is they went against the grain, and the results were better than most thought they would be.

 
Colt McCoy - #2 QB Good call

John Skelton - #4 QB Better call than most would have thought

Jimmy Clausen - no ranking Not clear yet, but not unreasonable.

Spiller - #5 RB Sounds good.

James Starks - #6 RB Sounds good.

Mike Williams - #1 WR Very good call so far. Dez is probably better long-term, but it's not certain.

Dexter McCluster - #4 WR Not looking good here.

Armanti Edwards - #5 WR Not looking good here.

Demaryius Thomas - no ranking Didn't show anything before a major injury. Not clear yet.

Tony Moeaki - #1 TE Not clear yet, but certainly possible.

Aaron Hernandez - #2 TE Great call.

Jimmy Graham - #3 TE Great call.

Rob Gronkowski - no ranking Major miss so far.

I think these rankings might have been better than the mainstream consensus.
You're right...what appeared to be reaches by several players were spot on.
Not sure how you can say many of these calls on spot on if they are dynasty rankings. Dynasty is about multiple years, not just one season.
I had no idea.
 
I actually worked with the guy who runs/owns the site. He's a good guy who's doing it IN ADDITION to a full-time job.

Cut him some slack.

 
'Go deep said:
'Alex P Keaton said:
Colt McCoy - #2 QB Good call

John Skelton - #4 QB Better call than most would have thought

Jimmy Clausen - no ranking Not clear yet, but not unreasonable.

Spiller - #5 RB Sounds good.

James Starks - #6 RB Sounds good.

Mike Williams - #1 WR Very good call so far. Dez is probably better long-term, but it's not certain.

Dexter McCluster - #4 WR Not looking good here.

Armanti Edwards - #5 WR Not looking good here.

Demaryius Thomas - no ranking Didn't show anything before a major injury. Not clear yet.

Tony Moeaki - #1 TE Not clear yet, but certainly possible.

Aaron Hernandez - #2 TE Great call.

Jimmy Graham - #3 TE Great call.

Rob Gronkowski - no ranking Major miss so far.

I think these rankings might have been better than the mainstream consensus.
Yup, that was my take as well. If they do another set of rankings this year, I'll be interested to check it out.
Like everyone else, they had some nice calls and some bad ones. What i like most is they went against the grain, and the results were better than most thought they would be.
Yea, I have found myself being brought over to the group think on a few players in the past (somewhat against my gut or personal analysis) and end up wishing I had not. Hearing an alternative voice that is not afraid to get 'blasted' for making calls that are seen by the conventional wisdom as crazy is good (if that voice hits at least some of the time). That all being said, it seems like tick was giving the benefit of the doubt as much as possible in his review of the OP.
 
[Yea, I have found myself being brought over to the group think on a few players in the past (somewhat against my gut or personal analysis) and end up wishing I had not. Hearing an alternative voice that is not afraid to get 'blasted' for making calls that are seen by the conventional wisdom as crazy is good (if that voice hits at least some of the time). That all being said, it seems like tick was giving the benefit of the doubt as much as possible in his review of the OP.
That might be true, but I also have some nonstandard opinions on last year's rookies based on their first year, and they fit with these rankings a fair amount. Also, some don't matter... Skelton might be around the 4th best QB, but this might be a class that only produces two QBs of any real value.
 
Colt McCoy - #2 QB Good call

John Skelton - #4 QB Better call than most would have thought

Jimmy Clausen - no ranking Not clear yet, but not unreasonable.

Spiller - #5 RB Sounds good.

James Starks - #6 RB Sounds good.

Mike Williams - #1 WR Very good call so far. Dez is probably better long-term, but it's not certain.

Dexter McCluster - #4 WR Not looking good here.

Armanti Edwards - #5 WR Not looking good here.

Demaryius Thomas - no ranking Didn't show anything before a major injury. Not clear yet.

Tony Moeaki - #1 TE Not clear yet, but certainly possible.

Aaron Hernandez - #2 TE Great call.

Jimmy Graham - #3 TE Great call.

Rob Gronkowski - no ranking Major miss so far.

I think these rankings might have been better than the mainstream consensus.
Yup, that was my take as well. If they do another set of rankings this year, I'll be interested to check it out.
Like everyone else, they had some nice calls and some bad ones. What i like most is they went against the grain, and the results were better than most thought they would be.
Hi, fwiw im the guy that wrote them - for better or worse!In doing a google search for last years rankings (i'm on a new PC with no bookmarks) i found this thread so figured i chip in with a couple of things to clarify a few points if i might! :)

Firstly, space! The original draft was WAY bigger than what was published (circa 20+ pages) and the first thing i had to do was take out anyone that i graded negatively (Clausen amongst them). In fact, were he not so high-profile i wouldnt even have consigned him to an addendum/ footnote/ callitwhatyouwill! Its already still the biggest piece weve had on FS, so the brevity on Clausen was the best i could do. If anyone wants the original three paras on him id be happy to mail it though im not sure after last year anyone would much care as it was about as bad a season as you could hope for out of a rookie QB!

Secondly, it is a dynasty ranking rather than anything to do with ADP, yr1 production or where you should pick them up in dyna drafts (way too many variables for the latter) but rather how they will fare over their careers. As such the guys who have posted that its unclear how inaccurate or accurate they are are right on the money. After next year i'll revisit them and see how it went.

Thirdly, Dwyer ... Reason i said youd be able to pick him up off the WWs with ease is because thats where he'll end up. Redman is far better in just about every department that Dwyer thinks is his forte. Were it not for the fact he ran in that goofy triple option offense he likely wouldnt have gotten drafted at all as his numbers wouldnt have got him noticed at all imho. Too slow to be an RB, too weak to be FB.

Looking back though a year on already some big misses, some big hits and some "unsures" - more hits than misses atm though which is pleasing.

Aside form the post quoted by Tick (summing it up pretty nicely!) other things in there not mentioned:

In addition to the Tick comments

Montario Hardesty - Injury nailed

James Starks - Said hed end up replacing the incumbent

Eric Decker - looking like he'll get his chances over the next year or so - and they wont look back. Hands, routes, catches away from his body, nice radius. Shouldve been drafted higher.

Michael Hoomanawanui - being FF relevant(though with an OC change and legit competition itll be intersting to see how that goes over the next year or so!)

Emmanuel Sanders - being a nice stash in PIT

Early days but looking dead-dead-wrong:

Armanti Edwards - Not looking like he'll make the adjustment. Some dont and atm im afraid to say he has all the "signs" of being one fo them

Dorin Dickerson - Out of Houston where repalcemnts were brought in. I was right to say before pre-season he would try to be AJs understudy rather than a TE (as he did). Wrong to assume he could get there.

Rob Gronkowski - Knew itd be a twin TE set in NE even before they played a snap last year. But 2+2 together and got 5. Worth noting i did say he was an excellent TE and that NE fans should rejoice, but mitigated/ compeltely undone by the fact that i said not for FF purposes.

Too soon to tell:

Tim Tebow - I did say that Bradford was the ONLY blue chip prospect in that years class. New OC, new veteran-loving, run -first HC. Be interesting to see what Denver do in the coming months if things dont get off to a good start.

Jonathan Crompton - I still believe hes got the talent to be an NFL starter, but he better put it together. WAS not the worst career opportunity for him (Beck & Grossman). Hopefully Kyle Shanahan can help him out.

Joe Webb - Wouldnt take much for McNabb to get injured or Ponder to implode.

Ben Tate - liked him as the 3rd best back, but how do you get around a fit Arian.

C.J.Spiller - Took McFadden/Felix a few years to figure out how to run in the NFL. He aint McFadden. He aint Felix. But ill give him another year and off-season first.

Dexter McCluster - Was right about him moving from WR to RB, its just not his thing (running routes starting outside is VERY different to running them out of the backfield), this year will be key for him.

Golden Tate - The off-season hurt him more than most as he can make the highlight cathc but miss his cuts or overrun his routes. Nothing that cant be coached, but its not called the Not For long League for no reason.

David Reed - liked him almost as much as Decker, but hes got competition (Doss who i like as much as i did Decker last year, but the situation isnt great atm) but he'll neeed to stay out of trouble and make his limited play time count this year

I had done one for this year (kinda) ... But im working full time and ive taken over the IDP content with Gary Davenport (formerly of Football Fantasy Oasis and still of IDP Manor) so time has been at a real premium for me!

If anyone here does IDP and would like to read last years IDP rankings and this years (it was IDP or offensive rankings - didnt have time for both, sadly) then you can find them here for comparing and contrasting.

2010 IDP Dynasty Rookie Rankings

2011 IDP Dynasty Rookie Rankings

If you need to query any of the rankings, feel free to PM me and ill explain in fuller detail. As i said above space can be a killer, so sometimes brevity is better, but nuances can be a casualty as a consequence and im happy to expand on points made.

Aside from that, i wish you all the VERY Best of luck with all your games this season and hope you get all the results you need on the way to a championship. :clap:

James Elvins

 
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It's a shame that we might not ever see Demaryius Thomas at 100% because I think he would've proven a lot of people wrong. I know he wasn't the most polished player, but he was a prodigy in terms of physical ability. It's not accurate to say that he showed nothing last year. He flashed really exciting ability on some catches and returns. You just don't see many players that big who can move that well.

I like most of your other calls though.

Gronkowski has really surprised me. Maybe more than any player from that class. I never saw him play much in college because he missed his last season, but from what I did see of his Arizona days and his rookie New England games he looked lumbering and unathletic. Really surprised to see him becoming such a dominant force.

 
Looks like some of these calls weren't so awful. Interesting. Anyone find their 2011 rookie rankings? That site is a bit of a mess.

 
I thought David Reed was going to get his chance too this year, but it looks like Torrey Smith took that job and ran with it after Reed was injured. Now he's just stuck to return specialist when he gets back from injury

 

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