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In head vs. arm quarterback debate, the jury's still out on Bray
In head vs. arm quarterback debate, the jury's still out on Bray
A rundown of NFL.com draft analyst Mike Mayock's top 100 prospects heading into next week's 2013 NFL Draft.
1. Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
2. Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida
3. Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
4. Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama
5. Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon
6. Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
7. Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
8. Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina
9. Ziggy Ansah, DE, BYU
10. Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU
11. Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
12. Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
13. Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
14. D.J. Hayden, CB, Houston
15. D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama
16. Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
17. Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
18. Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
19. Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
20. Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
21. Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
22. Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina
23. Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame
24. Justin Pugh, OT, Syracuse
25. Matt Elam, FS, Florida
26. Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State
27. Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
28. Eric Reid,FS, LSU
29. Kyle Long,OG, Oregon
30. Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
31. Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State
32. Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
33. Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
34. Kevin Minter,ILB, LSU
35. Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
36. Arthur Brown, ILB, Kansas State
37. Keenan Allen, WR, California
38. Jonathan Cyprien, FS, Florida International
39. Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
40. Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
41. EJ Manuel, QB, Florida State
42. DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
43. Matt Barkley, QB, USC
44. Alec Ogletree, ILB, Georgia
45. Robert Woods, WR, USC
46. Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
47. Larry Warford,, OG, Kentucky
48. Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State
49. Jamie Collins, OLB, Southern Mississippi
50. Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse
51. Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State
52. Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin
53. Terrance Williams,, WR, Baylor
54. Cornelius Washington, OLB, Georgia
55. Brian Schwenke, C, California
56. Tank Carradine, DE, Florida State
57. D.J. Swearinger, SS, South Carolina
58. Jonathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
59. Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State
60. Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall
61. Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas-Pine Bluff
62. Bennie Logan, DT, LSU
63. Giovani Bernard, RB, North Carolina
64. Sio Moore, OLB, Connecticut
65. Jon Bostic, OLB, Florida
66. Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, Connecticut
67. B.W. Webb, CB, William & Mary
68. J.J. Wilcox, FS, Georgia Southern
69. Khaseem Greene, OLB, Rutgers
70. Brian Winters, OG, Kent
71. John Jenkins, DT, Georgia
72. Dwayne Gratz, CB, Connecticut
73. Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia
74. Robert Alford, CB, Southeastern Louisiana
75. Andre Ellington, RB, Clemson
76. Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State
77. William Gholston, DE, Michigan State
78. Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech
79. Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
80. Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati
81. Mike Glennon, QB, North Carolina State
82. David Bakhtiari, OT, Colorado
83. Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern State
84. David Quessenberry, OT, San Jose State
85. Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State
86. Tyler Bray, QB, Tennessee
87. Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M
88. Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State
89. John Simon, DT, Ohio State
90. Dallas Thomas, OT, Tennessee
91. Barrett Jones, OG, Alabama
92. Travis Frederick, C, Wisconsin
93. Marquise Goodwin, WR, Texas
94. Le'Veon Bell, RB, Michigan State
95. Shamarko Thomas, SS, Syracuse
96. Vance McDonald, TE, Rice
97. Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
98. Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU
99. David Amerson, CB, North Carolina State
100. Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA
I have looked at probably 10 top lists over the last week or two and bernard has pretty much ranked 60-65. good, solid prospect, but not considered elite. so one or two have a little lower seems realistic to me.I don't get why Bernard is ranked so low. Do these guys watch tape?
Talent evaluation is never an exact science and the group at NFLDraftScout.com do collaborate a fair bit on their rankings, so it is possible that one of them made some compelling arguments in what they saw on the tape that they had concerns with regards to his pro potential.I have looked at probably 10 top lists over the last week or two and bernard has pretty much ranked 60-65. good, solid prospect, but not considered elite. so one or two have a little lower seems realistic to me.I don't get why Bernard is ranked so low. Do these guys watch tape?
The most versatile offensive player vs. The most NFL-ready prospect
Mel Kiper Jr. and Todd McShay answer fans' NFL draft questions from Twitter.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/draft18g-rt9i5uk-203525881.htmlThe Journal Sentinel's Bob McGinn assesses the top quarterbacks in the draft.
The Journal Sentinel's Bob McGinn assesses the top receivers in the draft.
Always a good read with quotes from scouts and such.Rating the NFL draft prospects: Quarterbacks
Rating the NFL draft prospects: Wide receivers, tight endsThe Journal Sentinel's Bob McGinn assesses the top quarterbacks in the draft.>The Journal Sentinel's Bob McGinn assesses the top receivers in the draft.
The Journal Sentinel's Bob McGinn assesses the top Running backs in the draft.
I like the most of the article but I disagree with some of his commentary . Manuel apparently "failed to beat out Ponder" while Tyler Wilson "backed up Mallet". Bob is not being fair to Manuel or Ponder here.Rating the NFL draft prospects: Quarterbacks
The Journal Sentinel's Bob McGinn assesses the top quarterbacks in the draft.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...rradine-shows-off-speed-in-impressive-workoutSounds like Tank Carradine had a good workout today.
Count Tank Carradine as one of the more intriguing names in the 2013 NFL Draft.
The talented Florida State defensive end was forced to sit out the pre-draft process while recovering from December surgery to repair a torn anterior cruciate ligament. On Saturday, he gave NFL teams something to think about with an impressive personal workout.
According to Joe Reedy of The Cincinnati Enquirer, Carradine posted a time of 4.75 seconds in the 40-yard dash. To put that in perspective, 4.75 would have been the ninth-fastest time among D-linemen at the NFL Scouting combine.
Carradine's workout came 135 days after knee surgery.
The Baltimore Sun's Aaron Wilson reported Friday that several NFL teams were planning to attend the workout, including the Baltimore Ravens and San Francisco 49ers. NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah listed Carradine as his No. 31 draft prospect.
In attendance for Carradine's workout were 11 teams: The Kansas City Chiefs, Detroit Lions, Cleveland Browns, New Orleans Saints, Cincinnati Bengals, Minnesota Vikings, Indianapolis Colts, Denver Broncos, New England Patriots, Atlanta Falcons and San Francisco 49ers, according to the Cincinnati Enquirer.
Carradine, 23, has done his rehab work in Houston, working with the same physical therapist who helped Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson regain his superhuman form following reconstructive knee surgery.
Carradine was said to be doing well in the recovery process, and his 40 time on Saturday certainly backs that up. Don't be surprised if he sneaks into the back of the first round.
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Alabama's Eddie Lacy remains confident that he's the complete package after a disappointing pro day, but he's no longer viewed as the consensus top tailback prospect in the 2013 NFL Draft.
A number of teams tell Draftinsider.net's Tony Pauline that UCLA's Jonathan Franklin ranks higher than Lacy on their boards. The New York Jets and Pittsburgh Steelers are among the teams "looking hard" at Franklin, according Jason La Canfora of CBSSports.com.
Franklin is drawing comparisons to Frank Gore and Doug Martin as a three-down back with NFL-ready pass-protection skills and the physicality to succeed between the tackles at the NFL level.
Highly productive last season at UCLA, Franklin piled up 1,734 rushing yards and 15 total touchdowns while adding 33 catches for 323 yards. He's a more complete back than Lacy.
Other draft buzz from around the league:
» Jets general manager John Idzik has "sent out word" that he's interested in trading down acquire extra picks to rebuild a shallow roster, according to ESPNNewYork.com. The Jets are believed to be "smitten" with LSU pass rusher Barkevious Mingo.
» Although NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah has pegged Oregon pass rusher Dion Jordan to the Jaguars at No. 2 overall, several general managers and personnel directors have told him they expect Jacksonville to select an offensive tackle in the first round. Of course, that interest could be a smokescreen to bait tackle-needy teams into a trade.
» There is a feeling in some NFL front offices that Florida State's E.J. Manuel has "leapfrogged" Matt Barkely, Mike Glennon and Ryan Nassib and could now be the second quarterback off the board, according to the National Football Post. While Manuel does have a bust factor, his physical tools leave room for a higher ceiling.
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With the 2012 NFL season in the books, and the scouting combine in the rear-view, it's time to take a closer look at the 50 players we think will be the biggest difference-makers at the next level from this draft class. To that end, we're happy to continue this year's Shutdown 50 scouting reports (Hint: There may actually be more than 50). You can read last year's group here. The final 50 players were chosen and ranked based on game tape, combine and Pro Day results, overall positional value, and attributes and liabilities on and off the field.
#14: Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
We continue this year's series with Tennessee receiver Cordarrelle Patterson, who made a fairly significant impact at the FBS level despite a lack of experience in doing so. After two years at Hutchinson Community College in Kansas, Patterson joined the Vols in 2012, and scored two touchdowns -- one rushing and one receiving -- in his first game against North Carolina State. He caught six passes for 93 yards over NC State cornerback David Amerson, projected by many to be a second-round pick. By the time his season was over, Patterson had firmly established himself as one of the most dynamic offensive players in the SEC by catching 46 passes for 778 yards and five touchdowns, adding 308 rushing yards and three touchdowns on 25 carries, and scoring touchdowns on both kick and punt returns. And after just that one season, Patterson made the decision to go pro.
That decision seemed wise when Patterson, at 6-foot-2 and 216 pounds, ran a 4.42 40-yard dash at the scouting combine, fourth-best among all receivers. Though he could not participate in agility drills or the bench press due to injuries, that pure speed -- which is very evident on tape -- had to excite NFL teams in need of a scary playmaker, whether he's in need of developmental work or not. Patterson is not the most polished receiver in this draft class -- in fact, he may be the rawest of all the top-seeded prospects at his position. But he'll hear his name called early in round one of the NFL draft, because the physical upside is pretty ridiculous, and the NFL is more a height/weight/speed league than it was even a few years ago.
Pros: Big, physical receiver who comes off the line with burst and authority. Will win physical battles that other receivers simply aren't equipped to. Has a great frame for an 'A'-level receiver -- good musculature, strong upper body. Blocks well to help with run support -- sporadically with his technique, but almost like a tight end at times. Runs straight-line routes with outstanding glide and gets up to top speed (which is very impressive for his size) in a hurry. Has a natural ability to move and cut in traffic that makes him a potential yards-after-catch nightmare for every defenses. Not afraid to grab the pass in traffic when he know he's going to get hit. Drives upfield after the short and intermediate catch and uses his physical nature to bull through tackles. Plants and cuts well on drive routes (slants, in-cuts, drags).
Can be a real factor in the return game, where his combination of size, speed, and agility really show up. Reads the action in front of him well and cuts decisively to get away from tacklers. Has that final gear to excel as a deep returner, as well as a deep seam and boundary receiver. Dynamic red zone target who understands how to get his body in front of defenders quickly in short spaces. Has the physical characteristics to play the "X" spot as the isolated receiver, but may really shine as a "Z" at the next level, where he can take coverage off the top and open things up for other targets. Rushing ability will transfer to the NFL and could make him an interesting multi-formation player.
Cons: Patterson's lack of high-level experience shows up very clearly in his lack of overall route development and awareness, and this isn't an issue that can be corrected overnight. Played in a simple, mostly single-read offense, which stunted his development. Doesn't always transition well to catch out of quick-breaking routes, which seems to be more a function of concentration and technique, because he will catch balls in traffic. The eye-to-hands connection is a work in progress, and he'll suffer lapses in concentration and ball security as a result.
Tends to get drifty on routes than require precision, such as curls and comebacks. More a jumper than a route-savvy guy on boundary catches, because he will struggle to regain position with cuts. Needs to learn how to better adjust to press corners who want to re-route him. Doesn't always fight for the ball in contested situations -- not that all of Tyler Bray's errant ducks are Patterson's fault, but it would be nice to see him go after those picks a little harder.
Conclusion: NFL teams in need of a breakaway receiver with virtually unlimited potential will see Patterson as a highly appealing option, because there are times on tape where he appears virtually uncoverable, and it's relatively easy to put some of the blame for the bad plays on a basic offensive system, a lack of experience, and a highly erratic quarterback. In the right system, and under a coaching staff who will not expect too much from him right away in the route-running department, Patterson could be a rookie impact player.
Patterson is hitting the league at the right time, because the higher prevalence of multi-receiver sets turns some receivers into specialists, and specific schematic nods to the college game has forced coaches to come up with ways for less-developed receivers to win battles with NFL pass defenders. Patterson may have a limited role at first -- perhaps as a guy who makes things happen with a combination of quick screens and slants, end-arounds, and vertical routes. If he is ever able to grab a full command of an NFL route tree, Patterson could be one of the best in the league. One thing's for sure -- he is a scheme-transcendent receiver, which means that he'll probably be the first pass-catcher off the board in the draft -- and possibly a top-10 pick.
NFL Comparison: Dwayne Bowe, Kansas City Chiefs
With the 2012 NFL season in the books, and the scouting combine in the rear-view, it's time to take a closer look at the 50 players we think will be the biggest difference-makers at the next level from this draft class. To that end, we're happy to continue this year's Shutdown 50 scouting reports (Hint: There may actually be more than 50). You can read last year's group here. The final 50 players were chosen and ranked based on game tape, combine and Pro Day results, overall positional value, and attributes and liabilities on and off the field.
#12: Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
We continue this year's series with West Virginia receiver Tavon Austin, who may just be the most exciting and explosive player in this draft class. He's certainly been one of the most productive over the last couple of seasons, especially in 2012. Last year, he caught 114 passes for 1,289 yards and 12 touchdowns, added 643 yards and seven touchdowns on 72 rushing attempts, returned 32 kicks for 813 yards and a touchdown, and returned 15 punts for 165 yards and another touchdown, just for good measure.
His 1,932 yards from scrimmage ranked first in the Big 12 and ninth in the nation, but Austin's NFL potential is about more than just stats. In an NFL that welcomes elite positional versatility more than ever, Austin hit his peak and is ready for the pros at precisely the right time. That was never more evident than his Nov. 17 game against Oklahoma, when he put up 572 total yards -- including 344 yards on 21 carries -- to prove that when he's put in place to succeed as a moveable chess piece, he's almost impossible to stop on a consistent basis.
Pros: Has rare on-field speed and agility that allows him to do some pretty epic damage from a number of positions. Austin is quick enough to break away from chasing defenders even when they're moving in a straight line and he's heading at an angle. Could be the most devastating Pistol running back ever because his lack of height works to his extreme advantage -- defenses lose Austin's first step while they're picking him up, and one step is all Austin needs.
Possesses amazing straight-line speed, but it's his lateral agility and quickness that makes him so tough to stop. Whether at the line or in space, he can cut on a dime and leave defenders in his dust. Puts his foot in the ground at full speed and drives his body away from contact. Has some ability to move through contact for his size,. though this is not a primary asset. Very durable for his size -- never missed a game in high school or college. Understands how to break contact by spinning out of hits and running out of bounds.
As a receiver, returner, and running back, has good patience as the start of a play -- presumably because he knows he can blast off at any time. Doesn't yet run a complete route tree, but doesn't really need to -- can create his own gains after the catch on quick routes, bubble screens, and end-arounds. Ran an official 4.34 40-yard dash at the scouting combine, as if there was any doubt.
Cons: Has probably topped out from a size perspective, because he's already pretty decently muscled and any more mass could affect his speed and make him average. Not a pure running back per se -- this is more an adjunct skill, because he tends to go east-west too often and doesn't have the body mass to break out of tackles. Boom-or-bust player to a point; if he runs into too many brick walls, his athleticism might be negated. Will face more multiple defenses in the NFL; many college opponents of West Virginia's high-flying offense played on their heels and just tried to hold on. Needs a coaching staff that understands his total positional value.
Conclusion: There are two fairly common perceptions when it comes to Tavon Austin's NFL prospects, and I think both might be egregious when you consider how the league has changed. Some believe that Austin will max out because he doesn't play one specific position, and others think that his size will limit his potential. But when the Seattle Seahawks traded a first-round draft pick for former Minnesota Vikings receiver Percy Harvin and gave him a six-year, $67 million contract in March, it forwarded what the Vikings knew with Harvin, what the Green Bay Packers have developed with Randall Cobb, and what the New England Patriots have done with Aaron Hernandez. More and more, players who can win battles in multiple spaces are providing optimal value, and Austin may wind up as the next-level example of this process. If he's half as dynamic and explosive as he was in college, he's going to make some offensive coordinator very, very happy. Especially if that offensive coordinator runs the Pistol -- well, if you're a defensive coordinator, watch the Oklahoma game and see if you don't get nightmares.
NFL Comparison: Percy Harvin, Minnesota Vikings/Seattle Seahawks
I posted something similar to this not too long ago about Barkley's comments about play calling geared toward Lee and ignored Woods. This is another reason why those of you who are dismissing Woods as one of the top WRs in this draft are going to be sorry you did. Woods is going to be a fine pro and he will be fantasy relevant. Probably more fantasy relevant his first year than any other WR in this draft, except maybe Austin or Hunter.Faust, on 22 Apr 2013 - 10:42, said:
Matt Barkley: USC's play-calling got too predictable
By Gregg Rosenthal
Around The League Editor
Matt Barkley would like to change a few things about his final year at his USC. Starting with the play-calling.
One season after wide receiver Robert Woods lit up the Pac-whatever-the-number-is-this-year, the USC offense geared things more towards talented sophomore Marquise Lee.
"(Coach Lane Kiffin) kind of suited the play-calling toward Marqise," Barkley told Michael Silver at Yahoo! Sports. "It was rough at times, because defenses kinda knew what was coming. It was sort of predictive. Robert Woods is a great player. ... You want to be respectful of your coaches, because they are your elders, but when it falls on your shoulders, you probably should get involved."
Barkley found the balance of leadership difficult in his final year. He noticed things around him going wrong, and he wishes he said more about it.
"Yeah, I've thought about it long and hard," Barkley told Silver. "I learned how to handle adversity last season, and maybe I could have done a few things differently. I could've had a bigger voice, given more input and taken it to the next level -- pretty much as the owner of the company might ... not just letting things happen.
"You put faith in your coaches, but when you see trends, things not happening the right way, and when the team rests on your shoulders, it's almost like you have to step up. You can't just let these things go by and watch them disintegrate in front of you. You've got to put the glue in somewhere. Looking back, I wish I'd been more forceful."
You can look at Barkley's comments in a few ways. He's taking stock of the situation and learning from it. He's hard on himself. That's great.
On the other hand, teams may be looking for leaders at quarterback that were naturally more forceful to begin with. The types of quarterbacks that would have spoken up if they felt like the offense was geared too much towards Lee. Barkley doesn't have a great arm or great feet, so he needs his intangibles to qualify as a big plus.
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Agreed, I do not get the Ertz buzz at all. It's Eifert or day 3 and target Fauria or Kelce imho.I'm surprised Ertz is rated higher than Fleener by some pundits. In my opinion Fleener was a much better athlete.
Yes indeed! Thanks for collecting all this stuff for us Faust.Just wanted to give a thumbs up to Faust for posting all these.![]()
I like where the RB's go in that draft all except one. Giovani Bernard. The Rams already have two guys on the roster that can do that. They don't need a third...
Was reading that Eifert didn't have any pre-draft visits. Is that because teams know what they're going to get out of him and don't want to show their hand on him?Link:
2013 NFL Draft rumor mill: Lane Johnson, Tyler Eifert create buzz
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap1000000162558/article/2013-nfl-draft-rumor-mill-lane-johnson-tyler-eifert-create-buzz
https://twitter.com/NU_Gap/status/326793112733249537Most yards after the catch in the entire TE class: 1) Travis Kelce, 2) Jordan Reed 3) Jake Stoneburner 4) Nick Kasa 5) Mychal Rivera
http://www.thesidelineview.com/columns/nfl/metrics-study-overrated-draft-prospectsLeast yards after catch in entire TE class: 1) Zach Sudfeld, 2) Joseph Fauria, 3) DC Jefferson, 4) Tyler Eifert, 5) Zach Ertz
Justin Hunter, WR - Tennessee
The metrics for Justin Hunter point to the same negative factors as Stills. Hunter dropped an astounding 12.1% of all targets thrown his way, which gives him the worst hands of any receiver slotted to be drafted in the first 5 rounds.
Hunter’s been billed as a physical specimen after his superb combine performance, but he was only able to garner 4.9 yards after the catch in 2012. That YAC isn’t as bad as Stills, but ideally you’d want more from a first round prospect. Other notable wide receivers such as Cordarrelle Patterson averaged 6.4 yards, Tavon Austin 8.2 yards, and Keenan Allen 6.8 yards.