Dynasty Value Discussion Thread (26 Viewers)

[Birdie048]

scraping the bottom for my last FFPC 1QB dynasty league (Keep only 14 skill position players) and I have to chose between Renfrow WR LV, Claypool WR CHI or Haskins RB TEN.
My roster is hopefully in the last year of its rebuild and pretty evenly "ok" at both RB and WR. Liked Renfrow as my last keeper before they signed Meyers, but now not so sure. Hate the idea of keeping Claypool who I've pretty much written off at this point. And Haskins only value is IF Henry finallys hits the wall (I don't roster Henry in this league) and then IF he's actually going to be the main starter there, which I'm not sure is a lock.

thoughts welcome.

Tough call… but my cut would be Renfrow now with Meyers in Vegas…. Jacobs staying means fewer targets after D’Adams too. Alternatively Claypool with DJ Moore in Chicago to displace him as WR1
Boom/Bust RB are tough to find. Worth the spot.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

scraping the bottom for my last FFPC 1QB dynasty league (Keep only 14 skill position players) and I have to chose between Renfrow WR LV, Claypool WR CHI or Haskins RB TEN.
My roster is hopefully in the last year of its rebuild and pretty evenly "ok" at both RB and WR. Liked Renfrow as my last keeper before they signed Meyers, but now not so sure. Hate the idea of keeping Claypool who I've pretty much written off at this point. And Haskins only value is IF Henry finallys hits the wall (I don't roster Henry in this league) and then IF he's actually going to be the main starter there, which I'm not sure is a lock.

thoughts welcome.

Tough call… but my cut would be Renfrow now with Meyers in Vegas…. Jacobs staying means fewer targets after D’Adams too. Alternatively Claypool with DJ Moore in Chicago to displace him as WR1
Boom/Bust RB are tough to find. Worth the spot.

Seconded. Same reasons.

 

[menobrown]

scraping the bottom for my last FFPC 1QB dynasty league (Keep only 14 skill position players) and I have to chose between Renfrow WR LV, Claypool WR CHI or Haskins RB TEN.
My roster is hopefully in the last year of its rebuild and pretty evenly "ok" at both RB and WR. Liked Renfrow as my last keeper before they signed Meyers, but now not so sure. Hate the idea of keeping Claypool who I've pretty much written off at this point. And Haskins only value is IF Henry finallys hits the wall (I don't roster Henry in this league) and then IF he's actually going to be the main starter there, which I'm not sure is a lock.

thoughts welcome.

I do think Renfrow offers the best shot at giving you some production next year but if in a rebuild or wanting to hang onto a potential rebounding trade asset I would hang onto Claypool in hopes he picks up his play and/or finds a more attractive destination when he reaches FA next off-season.

 

[joey]

Thanks for the answers, everyone.
to be clear, I could only choose ONE of those 3. @Birdie048 you seem to indicate it’s worth keeping Haskins cuz he’s a boom/bust RB, but thoughts on Haskins vs Claypool? (Note my RBs in this league are Walker, Javonte, Allgeier, KHerbert and soon-to-be Bijan).

 

[Birdie048]

Thanks for the answers, everyone.
to be clear, I could only choose ONE of those 3. @Birdie048 you seem to indicate it’s worth keeping Haskins cuz he’s a boom/bust RB, but thoughts on Haskins vs Claypool? (Note my RBs in this league are Walker, Javonte, Allgeier, KHerbert and soon-to-be Bijan).

Claypool vs Haskins —> Claypool has a lower floor vs Hoskins but Haskins has a higher ceiling but no guarantees he is RB1 when Henry falls off cliff.
The issue is Haskins has no security of RB1 status but Tenn wants to run often & always.
Chicago now has DJ Moore as clear WR1 and Kmet is going to get looks from his chemistry with Fields. Mooney will get equal share to Claypool leaving Venus looking lost.
My insight - keep Claypool. After first 3-4 weeks, sell high. Claypool has an advantage over DJM until the chemistry is developed well. Claypool might start WR1 in the looks but DJM will capture that role by week 6.
Tenn could draft new RB heir apparent this April.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

So…for seemingly the 1 millionth time, would anyone trade for LJax right now or nah?

FBG Has him as the 6th best QB in my format (SF). Is he really? Any concern he actually doesn’t play in 2023?

I think LJax is a guy to target. I'm just not sure right now is the time. The longer the contract "negotiations" happen, the more antsy owners will get. I'd let it ride right up until the NFL draft. Maybe put out a feeler a week or so before...

In principal I agree. But an NFL trade could derail that at literally any time. In that light it seems like waiting longer could work against me.

Of course, that's the risk. I just don't think a trade or contract offer will happen before the draft. It's a risk I'd be willing to take if I want to get good value,

 

[JohnnyU]

Thanks for the answers, everyone.
to be clear, I could only choose ONE of those 3. @Birdie048 you seem to indicate it’s worth keeping Haskins cuz he’s a boom/bust RB, but thoughts on Haskins vs Claypool? (Note my RBs in this league are Walker, Javonte, Allgeier, KHerbert and soon-to-be Bijan).

Claypool vs Haskins —> Claypool has a lower floor vs Hoskins but Haskins has a higher ceiling but no guarantees he is RB1 when Henry falls off cliff.
The issue is Haskins has no security of RB1 status but Tenn wants to run often & always.
Chicago now has DJ Moore as clear WR1 and Kmet is going to get looks from his chemistry with Fields. Mooney will get equal share to Claypool leaving Venus looking lost.
My insight - keep Claypool. After first 3-4 weeks, sell high. Claypool has an advantage over DJM until the chemistry is developed well. Claypool might start WR1 in the looks but DJM will capture that role by week 6.
Tenn could draft new RB heir apparent this April.

GIGO (old IT term applies).

 

[joey]

Thanks for the answers, everyone.
to be clear, I could only choose ONE of those 3. @Birdie048 you seem to indicate it’s worth keeping Haskins cuz he’s a boom/bust RB, but thoughts on Haskins vs Claypool? (Note my RBs in this league are Walker, Javonte, Allgeier, KHerbert and soon-to-be Bijan).

Claypool vs Haskins —> Claypool has a lower floor vs Hoskins but Haskins has a higher ceiling but no guarantees he is RB1 when Henry falls off cliff.
The issue is Haskins has no security of RB1 status but Tenn wants to run often & always.
Chicago now has DJ Moore as clear WR1 and Kmet is going to get looks from his chemistry with Fields. Mooney will get equal share to Claypool leaving Venus looking lost.
My insight - keep Claypool. After first 3-4 weeks, sell high. Claypool has an advantage over DJM until the chemistry is developed well. Claypool might start WR1 in the looks but DJM will capture that role by week 6.
Tenn could draft new RB heir apparent this April.

GIGO (old IT term applies).

And as for the rest of my roster and my drafting decisions…PEBKAC

 

[JohnnyU]

Thanks for the answers, everyone.
to be clear, I could only choose ONE of those 3. @Birdie048 you seem to indicate it’s worth keeping Haskins cuz he’s a boom/bust RB, but thoughts on Haskins vs Claypool? (Note my RBs in this league are Walker, Javonte, Allgeier, KHerbert and soon-to-be Bijan).

Claypool vs Haskins —> Claypool has a lower floor vs Hoskins but Haskins has a higher ceiling but no guarantees he is RB1 when Henry falls off cliff.
The issue is Haskins has no security of RB1 status but Tenn wants to run often & always.
Chicago now has DJ Moore as clear WR1 and Kmet is going to get looks from his chemistry with Fields. Mooney will get equal share to Claypool leaving Venus looking lost.
My insight - keep Claypool. After first 3-4 weeks, sell high. Claypool has an advantage over DJM until the chemistry is developed well. Claypool might start WR1 in the looks but DJM will capture that role by week 6.
Tenn could draft new RB heir apparent this April.

GIGO (old IT term applies).

And as for the rest of my roster and my drafting decisions…PEBKAC

Love that one too. This is why I love this forum.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Thanks for the answers, everyone.
to be clear, I could only choose ONE of those 3. @Birdie048 you seem to indicate it’s worth keeping Haskins cuz he’s a boom/bust RB, but thoughts on Haskins vs Claypool? (Note my RBs in this league are Walker, Javonte, Allgeier, KHerbert and soon-to-be Bijan).

Claypool vs Haskins —> Claypool has a lower floor vs Hoskins but Haskins has a higher ceiling but no guarantees he is RB1 when Henry falls off cliff.
The issue is Haskins has no security of RB1 status but Tenn wants to run often & always.
Chicago now has DJ Moore as clear WR1 and Kmet is going to get looks from his chemistry with Fields. Mooney will get equal share to Claypool leaving Venus looking lost.
My insight - keep Claypool. After first 3-4 weeks, sell high. Claypool has an advantage over DJM until the chemistry is developed well. Claypool might start WR1 in the looks but DJM will capture that role by week 6.
Tenn could draft new RB heir apparent this April.

GIGO (old IT term applies).

And as for the rest of my roster and my drafting decisions…PEBKAC

Love that one too. This is why I love this forum.

Just don’t experience an ID10T error.

It was way more fun when only us IT nerds knew what it meant.

 

[JohnnyU]

Thanks for the answers, everyone.
to be clear, I could only choose ONE of those 3. @Birdie048 you seem to indicate it’s worth keeping Haskins cuz he’s a boom/bust RB, but thoughts on Haskins vs Claypool? (Note my RBs in this league are Walker, Javonte, Allgeier, KHerbert and soon-to-be Bijan).

Claypool vs Haskins —> Claypool has a lower floor vs Hoskins but Haskins has a higher ceiling but no guarantees he is RB1 when Henry falls off cliff.
The issue is Haskins has no security of RB1 status but Tenn wants to run often & always.
Chicago now has DJ Moore as clear WR1 and Kmet is going to get looks from his chemistry with Fields. Mooney will get equal share to Claypool leaving Venus looking lost.
My insight - keep Claypool. After first 3-4 weeks, sell high. Claypool has an advantage over DJM until the chemistry is developed well. Claypool might start WR1 in the looks but DJM will capture that role by week 6.
Tenn could draft new RB heir apparent this April.

GIGO (old IT term applies).

And as for the rest of my roster and my drafting decisions…PEBKAC

Love that one too. This is why I love this forum.

Just don’t experience an ID10T error.

It was way more fun when only is IT nerds knew what it meant.

I can't find the any key to continue.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Thanks for the answers, everyone.
to be clear, I could only choose ONE of those 3. @Birdie048 you seem to indicate it’s worth keeping Haskins cuz he’s a boom/bust RB, but thoughts on Haskins vs Claypool? (Note my RBs in this league are Walker, Javonte, Allgeier, KHerbert and soon-to-be Bijan).

Claypool vs Haskins —> Claypool has a lower floor vs Hoskins but Haskins has a higher ceiling but no guarantees he is RB1 when Henry falls off cliff.
The issue is Haskins has no security of RB1 status but Tenn wants to run often & always.
Chicago now has DJ Moore as clear WR1 and Kmet is going to get looks from his chemistry with Fields. Mooney will get equal share to Claypool leaving Venus looking lost.
My insight - keep Claypool. After first 3-4 weeks, sell high. Claypool has an advantage over DJM until the chemistry is developed well. Claypool might start WR1 in the looks but DJM will capture that role by week 6.
Tenn could draft new RB heir apparent this April.

GIGO (old IT term applies).

And as for the rest of my roster and my drafting decisions…PEBKAC

Love that one too. This is why I love this forum.

Just don’t experience an ID10T error.

It was way more fun when only is IT nerds knew what it meant.

I can't find the any key to continue.

Giving me flashbacks to my early desktop support days. Back then we didn’t have Remote Desktop apps, so it was basically walking executives through screen after screen - usually when they’re a couple cocktails deep in a hotel room somewhere.

If I had a nickel for every time one of them skipped ahead a screen or clicked something I didn’t tell them to click.

That gig added years to my life.

 

[JohnnyU]

Thanks for the answers, everyone.
to be clear, I could only choose ONE of those 3. @Birdie048 you seem to indicate it’s worth keeping Haskins cuz he’s a boom/bust RB, but thoughts on Haskins vs Claypool? (Note my RBs in this league are Walker, Javonte, Allgeier, KHerbert and soon-to-be Bijan).

Claypool vs Haskins —> Claypool has a lower floor vs Hoskins but Haskins has a higher ceiling but no guarantees he is RB1 when Henry falls off cliff.
The issue is Haskins has no security of RB1 status but Tenn wants to run often & always.
Chicago now has DJ Moore as clear WR1 and Kmet is going to get looks from his chemistry with Fields. Mooney will get equal share to Claypool leaving Venus looking lost.
My insight - keep Claypool. After first 3-4 weeks, sell high. Claypool has an advantage over DJM until the chemistry is developed well. Claypool might start WR1 in the looks but DJM will capture that role by week 6.
Tenn could draft new RB heir apparent this April.

GIGO (old IT term applies).

And as for the rest of my roster and my drafting decisions…PEBKAC

Love that one too. This is why I love this forum.

Just don’t experience an ID10T error.

It was way more fun when only is IT nerds knew what it meant.

I can't find the any key to continue.

Giving me flashbacks to my early desktop support days. Back then we didn’t have Remote Desktop apps, so it was basically walking executives through screen after screen - usually when they’re a couple cocktails deep in a hotel room somewhere.

If I had a nickel for every time one of them skipped ahead a screen or clicked something I didn’t tell them to click.

That gig added years to my life.

One user asks, should I unplug my computer and plug it back in? I said, NO!!!!, all the bits and bytes will spill out onto the floor and you will need a new computer.

 

[Toby_Logan]

SafeLeague format: SF, 2 TE PPR, Start 10 - Looking for a price check on Josh Allen.

Josh Allen, David Njoku
-for-
Travis Etienne, Garrett Wilson, 1.03 & 1.06

Too much Allen, not enough, or just right?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

SafeLeague format: SF, 2 TE PPR, Start 10 - Looking for a price check on Josh Allen.

Josh Allen, David Njoku
-for-
Travis Etienne, Garrett Wilson, 1.03 & 1.06

Too much Allen, not enough, or just right?

It’s so hard to say.

On the surface, it seems like fair value for Allen.

But here’s the thing - it has to fit the Allen owner’s needs. When trying to deal for an alpha QB like Allen, context is everything.

Does he need RB/WR?

Does he even have enough at QB behind Allen to facilitate a trade in the 1st place?

If you’re asking them to give up Allen and draft the 2nd or 3rd best rookie QB, that’s a tall order. If they have Allen, Hurts, & Fields, maybe a little easier.

So yeah - really hard to say what enough is when attempting to pry a top 2 SF option from someone.

 

[Toby_Logan]

SafeLeague format: SF, 2 TE PPR, Start 10 - Looking for a price check on Josh Allen.

Josh Allen, David Njoku
-for-
Travis Etienne, Garrett Wilson, 1.03 & 1.06

Too much Allen, not enough, or just right?

It’s so hard to say.

On the surface, it seems like fair value for Allen.

But here’s the thing - it has to fit the Allen owner’s needs. When trying to deal for an alpha QB like Allen, context is everything.

Does he need RB/WR?

Does he even have enough at QB behind Allen to facilitate a trade in the 1st place?

If you’re asking them to give up Allen and draft the 2nd or 3rd best rookie QB, that’s a tall order. If they have Allen, Hurts, & Fields, maybe a little easier.

So yeah - really hard to say what enough is when attempting to pry a top 2 SF option from someone.

Thanks @Hot Sauce Guy! I'm on the buying side of Allen, with fairly strong roster/assets and trying to determine whether the consolidation of assets into a top 2 "supermax" QB is worth the price. Cheers and thanks again for the input.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

SafeLeague format: SF, 2 TE PPR, Start 10 - Looking for a price check on Josh Allen.

Josh Allen, David Njoku
-for-
Travis Etienne, Garrett Wilson, 1.03 & 1.06

Too much Allen, not enough, or just right?

It’s so hard to say.

On the surface, it seems like fair value for Allen.

But here’s the thing - it has to fit the Allen owner’s needs. When trying to deal for an alpha QB like Allen, context is everything.

Does he need RB/WR?

Does he even have enough at QB behind Allen to facilitate a trade in the 1st place?

If you’re asking them to give up Allen and draft the 2nd or 3rd best rookie QB, that’s a tall order. If they have Allen, Hurts, & Fields, maybe a little easier.

So yeah - really hard to say what enough is when attempting to pry a top 2 SF option from someone.

Thanks @Hot Sauce Guy! I'm on the buying side of Allen, with fairly strong roster/assets and trying to determine whether the consolidation of assets into a top 2 "supermax" QB is worth the price. Cheers and thanks again for the input.

On the buying side it’s absolutely worth the price, IMO. Getting Allen in SF is legendary & Njoku in TE-P is also fairly solid, if unspectacular.

But it’s not a bargain. It’s probably an overpay. Maybe by as much as the 1.06

But it probably doesn’t get done unless you overpay, IMO.

 

[Mitchie]

SafeLeague format: SF, 2 TE PPR, Start 10 - Looking for a price check on Josh Allen.

Josh Allen, David Njoku
-for-
Travis Etienne, Garrett Wilson, 1.03 & 1.06

Too much Allen, not enough, or just right?

If I had Allen wouldn't do it. Solid offer though.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

SafeLeague format: SF, 2 TE PPR, Start 10 - Looking for a price check on Josh Allen.

Josh Allen, David Njoku
-for-
Travis Etienne, Garrett Wilson, 1.03 & 1.06

Too much Allen, not enough, or just right?

If I had Allen wouldn't do it. Solid offer though.

What if you had Allen, Hurts, & Daniel Jones?

 

[farfromforgotten]

Kyle Pitts value in a 12 team, SF TE premium format?

Admittedly, I’m not very high on him becoming the next big thing at the position while in Atlanta. I’m guessing his value is still high but I’m wondering if I should try and cash out now or wait and hope for a hot start to the season? Which I’m doubtful of happening.

My skill position players of note are: McCaffery, Mixon, and Swift at RB and Olave and Godwin at WR. I also have Engram and Hooper at TE. I was looking at someone like Tee Higgins as a potential trade target.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Toby_Logan]

SafeLeague format: SF, 2 TE PPR, Start 10 - Looking for a price check on Josh Allen.

Josh Allen, David Njoku
-for-
Travis Etienne, Garrett Wilson, 1.03 & 1.06

Too much Allen, not enough, or just right?

If I had Allen wouldn't do it. Solid offer though.

What if you had Allen, Hurts, & Daniel Jones?

Again... really appreciate the feedback. Your question also got me thinking... In that scenario, if I were the Allen owner and I needed options at other positions, I'd look at selling Hurts or Daniels first. What could you get for those players, before you give up Allen. As the Allen owner, trading Allen feels like the nuclear option - imho. (I think I answered my own question. )

 

[Toby_Logan]

Kyle Pitts value in a 12 team, SF TE premium format?

Admittedly, I’m not very high on him becoming the next big thing at the position while in Atlanta. I’m guessing his value is still high but I’m wondering if I should try and cash out now or wait and hope for a hot start to the season? Which I’m doubtful of happening.

My skill position players of note are: McCaffery, Mixon, and Swift at RB and Olave and Godwin at WR. I also have Engram and Hooper at TE. I was looking at someone like Tee Higgins as a potential trade target.

Thanks in advance!

Depending on format and TE premium bonus, I'd hold Pitts. I love Tee, but lots of options at WR. TE can be shallow and Pitts may be a perennial WORP wrecker. Again, depends on format/scoring. IMHO.

 

[farfromforgotten]

Kyle Pitts value in a 12 team, SF TE premium format?

Admittedly, I’m not very high on him becoming the next big thing at the position while in Atlanta. I’m guessing his value is still high but I’m wondering if I should try and cash out now or wait and hope for a hot start to the season? Which I’m doubtful of happening.

My skill position players of note are: McCaffery, Mixon, and Swift at RB and Olave and Godwin at WR. I also have Engram and Hooper at TE. I was looking at someone like Tee Higgins as a potential trade target.

Thanks in advance!

Depending on format and TE premium bonus, I'd hold Pitts. I love Tee, but lots of options at WR. TE can be shallow and Pitts may be a perennial WORP wrecker. Again, depends on format/scoring. IMHO.

RB and WRs get .5 PPR to 1 for TEs. I realize that Pitts can offer a big advantage here and maybe I’m too down on him. I appreciate the response.

 

[Toby_Logan]

Kyle Pitts value in a 12 team, SF TE premium format?

Admittedly, I’m not very high on him becoming the next big thing at the position while in Atlanta. I’m guessing his value is still high but I’m wondering if I should try and cash out now or wait and hope for a hot start to the season? Which I’m doubtful of happening.

My skill position players of note are: McCaffery, Mixon, and Swift at RB and Olave and Godwin at WR. I also have Engram and Hooper at TE. I was looking at someone like Tee Higgins as a potential trade target.

Thanks in advance!

Depending on format and TE premium bonus, I'd hold Pitts. I love Tee, but lots of options at WR. TE can be shallow and Pitts may be a perennial WORP wrecker. Again, depends on format/scoring. IMHO.

RB and WRs get .5 PPR to 1 for TEs. I realize that Pitts can offer a big advantage here and maybe I’m too down on him. I appreciate the response.

What are the rosters and starters?

 

[farfromforgotten]

Kyle Pitts value in a 12 team, SF TE premium format?

Admittedly, I’m not very high on him becoming the next big thing at the position while in Atlanta. I’m guessing his value is still high but I’m wondering if I should try and cash out now or wait and hope for a hot start to the season? Which I’m doubtful of happening.

My skill position players of note are: McCaffery, Mixon, and Swift at RB and Olave and Godwin at WR. I also have Engram and Hooper at TE. I was looking at someone like Tee Higgins as a potential trade target.

Thanks in advance!

Depending on format and TE premium bonus, I'd hold Pitts. I love Tee, but lots of options at WR. TE can be shallow and Pitts may be a perennial WORP wrecker. Again, depends on format/scoring. IMHO.

RB and WRs get .5 PPR to 1 for TEs. I realize that Pitts can offer a big advantage here and maybe I’m too down on him. I appreciate the response.

What are the rosters and starters?

24 and QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/TE/SF/FL/FL

 

[farfromforgotten]

SafeLeague format: SF, 2 TE PPR, Start 10 - Looking for a price check on Josh Allen.

Josh Allen, David Njoku
-for-
Travis Etienne, Garrett Wilson, 1.03 & 1.06

Too much Allen, not enough, or just right?

Seems like a fair offer to me, but boy would it be hard to come off of Allen in that format.

 

[Toby_Logan]

Kyle Pitts value in a 12 team, SF TE premium format?

Admittedly, I’m not very high on him becoming the next big thing at the position while in Atlanta. I’m guessing his value is still high but I’m wondering if I should try and cash out now or wait and hope for a hot start to the season? Which I’m doubtful of happening.

My skill position players of note are: McCaffery, Mixon, and Swift at RB and Olave and Godwin at WR. I also have Engram and Hooper at TE. I was looking at someone like Tee Higgins as a potential trade target.

Thanks in advance!

Depending on format and TE premium bonus, I'd hold Pitts. I love Tee, but lots of options at WR. TE can be shallow and Pitts may be a perennial WORP wrecker. Again, depends on format/scoring. IMHO.

RB and WRs get .5 PPR to 1 for TEs. I realize that Pitts can offer a big advantage here and maybe I’m too down on him. I appreciate the response.

What are the rosters and starters?

24 and QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/TE/SF/FL/FL

1 for 1, I'd stick with Pitts. IMHO, I think you're selling low right now (injury cloud, QB cloud, etc). You could potentially "trade down" to maybe Hock and a pick or vet WR - assuming you need WR. Patience in holding may be the best choice though.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Kyle Pitts value in a 12 team, SF TE premium format?

Admittedly, I’m not very high on him becoming the next big thing at the position while in Atlanta. I’m guessing his value is still high but I’m wondering if I should try and cash out now or wait and hope for a hot start to the season? Which I’m doubtful of happening.

My skill position players of note are: McCaffery, Mixon, and Swift at RB and Olave and Godwin at WR. I also have Engram and Hooper at TE. I was looking at someone like Tee Higgins as a potential trade target.

Thanks in advance!

Depending on format and TE premium bonus, I'd hold Pitts. I love Tee, but lots of options at WR. TE can be shallow and Pitts may be a perennial WORP wrecker. Again, depends on format/scoring. IMHO.

RB and WRs get .5 PPR to 1 for TEs. I realize that Pitts can offer a big advantage here and maybe I’m too down on him. I appreciate the response.

I hold Pitts in a full rebuild.

I’ve declined many offers. Pitts is the kind of player you build around and then enjoy for a 6-7 year run.

It’s coming.

 

[roar_lions]

Any feedback on the value of Marquise Brown in a 12 team PPR league? Lots of changes in Arizona and uncertainty about when Kyler will return this season. Is he worth a late 1st or higher?

 

[smbkrypt24]

Any feedback on the value of Marquise Brown in a 12 team PPR league? Lots of changes in Arizona and uncertainty about when Kyler will return this season. Is he worth a late 1st or higher?

I wouldn’t pay a late first for him for the reasons you stated.
I would be willing to part with an early/mid 2nd. I would probably wait until after the NFL draft though

 

[Boone22]

Any feedback on the value of Marquise Brown in a 12 team PPR league? Lots of changes in Arizona and uncertainty about when Kyler will return this season. Is he worth a late 1st or higher?

I wouldn’t pay a late first for him for the reasons you stated.
I would be willing to part with an early/mid 2nd. I would probably wait until after the NFL draft though

I absolutely would pay a late first for Brown Assuming Hopkins gets traded. It’s possible Arizona drafts a WR but with this class not being very strong I’m not sure someone they draft will come in and challenge him. The only way I see that happening is if they trade down from 3, pick up later 1st rounders and use one on a WR. So I agree I’d wait until the draft to make a move but if they don’t spend a first rounder on a WR, I’d give up a later first for Brown if I needed a WR.

 

[runner06]

Any feedback on the value of Marquise Brown in a 12 team PPR league? Lots of changes in Arizona and uncertainty about when Kyler will return this season. Is he worth a late 1st or higher?

I own Marquise Brown in a 12 team 0.5 PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 flex (WR,RB,TE) dynasty league.

I would not give up a future first in 1 QB or Superflex for him.

Current known first in the 1.09 to 1.12 in 1QB yes.
Current known first 1.08 - Wait and see.
Current known first 1.07 or higher - No.

I think Zach Charbonnet, Quentin Johnston, Jordan Addison, and Zay Flowers will at least all initially likely have more dynasty value and liquidity then Brown. I am not so sure about the RBs, WRs, and TEs after them though in a 1 QB league. If you're not sold on these guys, there is a higher chance someone in your league will to buy one of them at a premium then there is an owner who is will buy Hollywood at at a premium.

In a Superflex league I am guessing the top four QBs will have more dynasty value and liquidity then Brown next year so in Superflex I would not give up any pick 1.11 or higher for him and would wait and see with the 1.12.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Any feedback on the value of Marquise Brown in a 12 team PPR league? Lots of changes in Arizona and uncertainty about when Kyler will return this season. Is he worth a late 1st or higher?

I wouldn’t pay a late first for him for the reasons you stated.
I would be willing to part with an early/mid 2nd. I would probably wait until after the NFL draft though

We discussed him a while back and early 3rd was the consensus I believe, but mid-to-late 2nd seems fair. He is only 25 (26 in June)

He was peppered with targets while Nuk was suspended, so there’s some cause for promising, depending on Murray’s return date.

I just don’t love AZ offense in general. I think there’s enough risk there that I would be hesitant to overpay. Anything before pick 16 seems like too much. And it’s format dependent - in TE-P leagues, that 2nd round of FF drafts could be a bonanza.

 

[titusbramble]

Elijah Moore price check?

 

[menobrown]

Elijah Moore price check?

I just posted in another thread that in an FFPC league if he was in the rookie draft pool I'd likely spend an early second. I might be a little higher then most.

Have not seen a trade for him but I had trade talks surrounding him just a day or so ago and thought I was close on a deal. Was offered Moore for Diontae Johnson. I rejected and offered Diontae/Doubs(who I was going to cut)/2.12 for Moore/2.4 Got rejected with comment he had Moore and Diontae closer then that.

 

[JohnnyU]

Elijah Moore price check?

A pack of skittles? If you have him, might as well hold, because you’re not going to get much. If you’re buying, then you’re probably looking at a 2nd round pick, because owners probably aren’t trading for a 3rd. However, the best way to buy is probably during the draft if said owner really has someone he wants in the third and you’re on the clock, you might get lucky.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Elijah Moore price check?

Maybe a 4th? Late 3rd?

 

[JohnnyU]

Elijah Moore price check?

Maybe a 4th? Late 3rd?

I doubt anyone bites on that. Like I said, he could get lucky during the draft in the 3rd round if he’s on the clock and the Moore owner has to have a player and is willing to trade Moore for that 3rd round pick.

 

[massraider]

Elijah Moore price check?

Maybe a 4th? Late 3rd?

I doubt anyone bites on that. Like I said, he could get lucky during the draft in the 3rd round if he’s on the clock and the Moore owner has to have a player and is willing to trade Moore for that 3rd round pick.

In my leagues he would go for that price in a second.

Elijah has some fans, and when he got traded, we didn't hear that the Jets were giving up on some malcontent. It was the Browns got their starting slot, and OMG what he will do with Watson. Fantasy community loves them some Elijah.

 

[JohnnyU]

Elijah Moore price check?

Maybe a 4th? Late 3rd?

I doubt anyone bites on that. Like I said, he could get lucky during the draft in the 3rd round if he’s on the clock and the Moore owner has to have a player and is willing to trade Moore for that 3rd round pick.

In my leagues he would go for that price in a second.

Elijah has some fans, and when he got traded, we didn't hear that the Jets were giving up on some malcontent. It was the Browns got their starting slot, and OMG what he will do with Watson. Fantasy community loves them some Elijah.

I wouldn’t give a 2nd. If I woke up on the right side of the bed I might consider a 3rd. But I might not. I wouldn’t even entertain the idea unless I was on the clock and felt Moore was better than anything left.

 

[massraider]

I wouldn’t give a 2nd. If I woke up on the right side of the bed I might consider a 3rd. But I might not. I wouldn’t even entertain the idea unless I was on the clock and felt Moore was better than anything left

I'm not saying it is correct, but I don't think the bloom is off his rose. He still has believers

 

[JohnnyU]

I wouldn’t give a 2nd. If I woke up on the right side of the bed I might consider a 3rd. But I might not. I wouldn’t even entertain the idea unless I was on the clock and felt Moore was better than anything left

I'm not saying it is correct, but I don't think the bloom is off his rose. He still has believers

I agree, but those are my thoughts on him and his value.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Elijah Moore price check?

Maybe a 4th? Late 3rd?

I doubt anyone bites on that. Like I said, he could get lucky during the draft in the 3rd round if he’s on the clock and the Moore owner has to have a player and is willing to trade Moore for that 3rd round pick.

In my leagues he would go for that price in a second.

Elijah has some fans, and when he got traded, we didn't hear that the Jets were giving up on some malcontent. It was the Browns got their starting slot, and OMG what he will do with Watson. Fantasy community loves them some Elijah.

I wouldn’t give a 2nd. If I woke up on the right side of the bed I might consider a 3rd. But I might not. I wouldn’t even entertain the idea unless I was on the clock and felt Moore was better than anything left.

See I agree with that. I’d pay a 3rd, the owner probably wouldn’t sell for a 3rd.

 

[massraider]

See I agree with that. I’d pay a 3rd, the owner probably wouldn’t sell for a 3rd.

I have had decent luck dropping names like that in the chat (ELIJAH MOORE AVAILABLE FOR ANY PICK IN THIS ROUND).

Once we are in the late 2nd/3rd round, I have my targets, and if I miss on them, maybe an Elijah Moore looks good to me.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

See I agree with that. I’d pay a 3rd, the owner probably wouldn’t sell for a 3rd.

I have had decent luck dropping names like that in the chat (ELIJAH MOORE AVAILABLE FOR ANY PICK IN THIS ROUND).

Once we are in the late 2nd/3rd round, I have my targets, and if I miss on them, maybe an Elijah Moore looks good to me.

Ah yes - the “2:00 fox” at the bar.

 

[zaner75]

Elijah Moore price check?

In a 14 team SF start 11, I was offered 2.07 and declined. At that part of the draft, for me, the difference between Moore and whatever rookie is negligible. I reckon that the trade may be available in another month if I change my mind.

 

[joey]

Elijah Moore price check?

It’s only 1 set of rankings so grain of salt but right now, in FBG dynasty WR rankings, he’s in the same range as the likes of ARob, Thielen, Hardman and just below Claypool, Shakir, Metchie and KJ Osborn. By FFPC tight roster standards (keep only 14 skill position players), he’s borderline droppable depending on the rest of your squad

 

[menobrown]

Elijah Moore price check?

In a 14 team SF start 11, I was offered 2.07 and declined. At that part of the draft, for me, the difference between Moore and whatever rookie is negligible. I reckon that the trade may be available in another month if I change my mind.

IMO he compares very favorably to Zay Flowers and he's probably going to be the WR2-4 drafted.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

What is the value for Dak Prescott in 1QB? And SF?

 

[Rookiefever]

SafeLeague format: SF, 2 TE PPR, Start 10 - Looking for a price check on Josh Allen.

Josh Allen, David Njoku
-for-
Travis Etienne, Garrett Wilson, 1.03 & 1.06

Too much Allen, not enough, or just right?

It’s so hard to say.

On the surface, it seems like fair value for Allen.

But here’s the thing - it has to fit the Allen owner’s needs. When trying to deal for an alpha QB like Allen, context is everything.

Does he need RB/WR?

Does he even have enough at QB behind Allen to facilitate a trade in the 1st place?

If you’re asking them to give up Allen and draft the 2nd or 3rd best rookie QB, that’s a tall order. If they have Allen, Hurts, & Fields, maybe a little easier.

So yeah - really hard to say what enough is when attempting to pry a top 2 SF option from someone.

Thanks @Hot Sauce Guy! I'm on the buying side of Allen, with fairly strong roster/assets and trying to determine whether the consolidation of assets into a top 2 "supermax" QB is worth the price. Cheers and thanks again for the input.

On the buying side it’s absolutely worth the price, IMO. Getting Allen in SF is legendary & Njoku in TE-P is also fairly solid, if unspectacular.

But it’s not a bargain. It’s probably an overpay. Maybe by as much as the 1.06

But it probably doesn’t get done unless you overpay, IMO.

I’ll play devils advocate here and say no. Don’t do it. That is a lot of assets to give up for one piece. Also, Allen is reckless and njoku doesn’t offer much as far as every week starters go.