Eagle Fans and Those That Follow The Eagles (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

What say you Eagles fans and those that follow the team?

And of course, feel free to elaborate more on the situation and how it affects the other players etc.

J

 

[Snotbubbles]

I think they will give Garcia at least 1 week to work with the first team during practice and prep for a game as the teams #1 and then give him a game to see what he can do as the full time starter. I think he is on an incredibly short leash though.

 

[cubbie5150]

Just my opinion, but I think Feely will be the guy. Maybe not week 12 @ Indy, but w/in the next couple of weeks. Since the Eagles season is all but done, I'm guessing they'll give Feely a shot for an extended period...

 

[StormChasers]

What say you Eagles fans and those that follow the team?And of course, feel free to elaborate more on the situation and how it affects the other players etc.J

It's now clear the Eagles are past their prime and have to move on to a new direction. McNabb is the starter for a number of years to come but the Eagles have to know if they have a fairly young backup in Feeley. Additionally, since they both know the offense and the fact that Garcia showed he doesn't have the arm strength, I would lean towards AJ over Garcia as the starter for the remainder of the year. Let's see what we have in Feeley. If he is good enough there is no reason to keep Garcia around next year.

 

[JaxBill]

Curare or cyanide?

 

[Snotbubbles]

Curare or cyanide?

LOL!AJ "Pick 6" Feeley orJeff "Happy Feet" GarciaCan Ron Jaworski still play?

 

[jerseys finest]

I think they will give Garcia at least 1 week to work with the first team during practice and prep for a game as the teams #1 and then give him a game to see what he can do as the full time starter. I think he is on an incredibly short leash though.

I think garcia will get the start next week with indy, but that will be his only start, unless the jeff garcia of 5-7 years ago somehow gets ressurected, which i highly doubt. After that, its going to be Feely.

 

[hellz_fireflies]

All know those two QB's are no where at McNabb's level..so I believe its great news for Westbrook and the other RB's now.

 

[stevegamer]

The Eagles might have still had a chance yesterday if Garcia would have run in a spot or 2 late where he had the option to pick up a bit of yardage.

I think they will go Garcia this week, he'll be only a bit better than McMahon was, and then it's Feeley the rest of the way. When they got Garcia, I said that he was not the answer at bakup QB.

 

[Disco Stu]

All know those two QB's are no where at McNabb's level..so I believe its great news for Westbrook and the other RB's now.

Doubtful. This hurts the offense as a whole, which includes the RBs. Westbrook is the #3 RB in fantasy ppg right now, but I'd expect that to drop. More attention from defenses and fewer scoring opportunities = declining fantasy production. Downgrade Westbrook. Not as big of a downgrade as the Eagle WRs get of course, but a downgrade nonetheless.

 

[hotdogcollars]

60% Feely??????????????? uhh, can i have what 60% of you are smoking?

Does anyone remember AJ "limp arm" Feely's masterpiece down in Miami? There's no way AR brought in Garcia to sit him on the bench. IMO he truly believes that Garcia gives them a chance to win. No, i dont agree with that, but i do think its what AR believes.

 

[Kiko13]

What about David Akers? He's better than McNabb.

2006 QB ratings:

McNabb 95.5

Garcia 69.2

Akers 112.5

 

[trennr]

Andy: So Joe...who should I start @ QB this week?

Joe: ummm...I'll ask the best Football fans in the world. The Shark Pool!!

Andy: Sounds great. So how's it going against the Fluffy Bunnies??

 

[hellz_fireflies]

All know those two QB's are no where at McNabb's level..so I believe its great news for Westbrook and the other RB's now.

Doubtful. This hurts the offense as a whole, which includes the RBs. Westbrook is the #3 RB in fantasy ppg right now, but I'd expect that to drop. More attention from defenses and fewer scoring opportunities = declining fantasy production. Downgrade Westbrook. Not as big of a downgrade as the Eagle WRs get of course, but a downgrade nonetheless.

You forgot Westbrook is their main receiver and RB stats wise..what happens now can go either way for that guy!

 

[Mystery Achiever]

60% Feely??????????????? uhh, can i have what 60% of you are smoking?Does anyone remember AJ "limp arm" Feely's masterpiece down in Miami? There's no way AR brought in Garcia to sit him on the bench. IMO he truly believes that Garcia gives them a chance to win. No, i dont agree with that, but i do think its what AR believes.

My memory is just fine. Before going to Miami, Feeley filled in well when McNabb was hurt. They may give Garcia the first shot, I'm just pointing out that AJ has come through for hom before and they did go get him back after letting him go.

 

[Couch Potato]

Garcia.......................Eagles season.......................Feeley

 

[belljr]

Just my opinion, but I think Feely will be the guy. Maybe not week 12 @ Indy, but w/in the next couple of weeks. Since the Eagles season is all but done, I'm guessing they'll give Feely a shot for an extended period...

not a fan but live in the area and this is how I see it.They kind of know what they have with Feeley, that's the reason they brought him back.Feeley actually played decent for the Eagles when he had the change, that's what made Miami think he could be their starter. Now he stunk it up when he left Philly but when he was at Philly he was "ok".But I do think they give Garcia "a shot" this week but I don't think he makes it past halftime.

 

[Bri]

Garcia.......................Eagles season.......................Feeley

mike mcmahon memories

 

[hellz_fireflies]

Eagles better off trading for a QB as soon as possible..even if they draft a great one next year he's still raw.

McNabb chances coming back by week 8 is 50/50 in 2007.

Eagles | McNabb injury update

Mon, 20 Nov 2006 10:31:07 -0800

Les Bowen, of the Philadelphia Daily News, reports Philadelphia Eagles QB Donovan McNabb (knee) will visit Dr. James Andews Monday, Nov. 20, and if swelling permits, he will undergo surgery to repair a torn ACL in his knee. If the swelling does not subside, surgery could be postponed for 2 to 3 weeks, according to head coach Andy Reid. As reported, McNabb is out for the season and will need 8 to 12 months to recover.

 

[Disco Stu]

All know those two QB's are no where at McNabb's level..so I believe its great news for Westbrook and the other RB's now.

Doubtful. This hurts the offense as a whole, which includes the RBs. Westbrook is the #3 RB in fantasy ppg right now, but I'd expect that to drop. More attention from defenses and fewer scoring opportunities = declining fantasy production. Downgrade Westbrook. Not as big of a downgrade as the Eagle WRs get of course, but a downgrade nonetheless.

You forgot Westbrook is their main receiver and RB stats wise..what happens now can go either way for that guy!

What makes you think I forgot that Westbrook catches passes?Garcia's weak arm = safeties cheat up = tougher going for Westbrook (rushing and receiving)

 

[weisguy0831]

I think they go with Garcia in the short-term. This is why they signed him. I think if they lose the next two games (entirely possible) they switch to Feeley.

But as long as they think they still have a shot at the playoffs, Garcia starts.

 

[gorf]

i think it's feeley. they're going to see if they can get a 1st for him this time.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Two words I don't want to hear....

Timmy Chang.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

From Philly.com, AKA The Philadelphia Daily News

Garcia Likely Start, but Feeley Should

All the signs point to Garcia, but it ought to be Feeley.

By Ashley Fox, Inquirer Columnist

All indications are Andy Reid is going to start Jeff Garcia at quarterback against Indianapolis on Sunday, although, for whatever reason, Reid wasn't ready to announce it yesterday.Regardless, A.J. Feeley should be the starter.

While it is mystifying why Reid wouldn't just come out and say so yesterday, the Eagles will go with Garcia because he, in all likelihood, is the one offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg wants. Mornhinweg was the offensive coordinator at San Francisco from 1997 to 2000, when Garcia emerged as the 49ers' starter.

Garcia had his best statistical season in 2000, when he completed 63.3 percent of his passes for more than 4,200 yards, with 31 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. The 49ers struggled, losing eight of their first 10 games before rallying to win four of their final six.

During his time in San Francisco, Garcia went to three Pro Bowls and took the Niners into the playoffs twice. But his arm strength, as one former Niners wide receiver so notoriously pointed out, was always an issue.

That hasn't changed. At 36, Garcia is a proven leader with good presence in the huddle, but he is slower than he used to be, and he still can't get the ball down the field. The Eagles love the big play, but Garcia isn't able to throw a pass much past 15 yards. With Garcia, they will have to change their offensive philosophy - which at 5-5 might not be the worst thing - and grind out long drives in order to score points.

That hasn't been the team's modus operandi this season. Why would that be effective now?

Feeley has the better arm. He can make throws not a lot of quarterbacks can make. If the Eagles want to still live with the long ball, Feeley is the one who can throw it, not Garcia.

Feeley has proved he is comfortable in Reid's offensive system.

Maybe it was a fluke, but Feeley's performance at the end of the 2002 season, when he went 4-1 as a starter after McNabb and Koy Detmer got hurt, is etched in Eagles lore. Feeley completed 55 percent of his passes for just shy of 1,000 yards, with five touchdowns and five interceptions, and helped the Eagles secure home-field advantage through the playoffs.

He successfully bridged the gap then, and he should be allowed to do so now.

After the Eagles traded him to Miami in 2004, Feeley never meshed with then-coach Dave Wannstedt, and never earned Wannstedt's trust. He got embroiled in an impossible situation where every week there was the question about whether he or Jay Fiedler would be the starter. By many accounts, Feeley didn't handle the situation all that well.

But Feeley's stint in Miami wasn't without a bright spot. In the second-to-last game of the 2004 season against New England, Feeley rallied the Dolphins from a 28-17 deficit with two touchdown drives in the final 2 minutes, 7 seconds of the game. He threw a 21-yard TD pass to Derrius Thompson on fourth and 10 with 1:23 to play to give Miami a 29-28 victory over the eventual Super Bowl champs.

Early last season, the Dolphins traded Feeley to San Diego, where he was buried as the No. 3 quarterback. Before this season began, the Chargers released Feeley, and the Eagles quickly scooped him up, signing the 29-year-old to a two-year contract.

Had Feeley been available in March, Garcia might not even be here.

This is a tricky situation on many levels. The Eagles won't know for some time just when, or if, Donovan McNabb's right knee will be fully healed. McNabb flew to Birmingham, Ala., yesterday to meet with noted orthopedic surgeon James Andrews; he's expected to have surgery within the next few weeks.

Then the arduous rehabilitation will start. According to Eagles trainer Rick Burkholder, it could take McNabb eight months to get back, or it could take 12. That will depend on how quickly McNabb gets his range of motion back, and then how quickly he builds strength in his knee and gets his balance.

Taking a pessimistic view, McNabb might not be ready until the halfway mark of next season. Giving Feeley playing time now would only help him at the start of next season, if McNabb is unable to go.

For his part, Reid divulged nothing yesterday. Asked his impression of Garcia's play Sunday, Reid said: "He did some good things."

Asked to evaluate Feeley's strengths, Reid said: "He's obviously been in the system before and had some success."

Reid did not rule out starting one player against Indianapolis, and another the next week against Carolina. The only thing he said for sure was that both Garcia and Feeley will get reps with the first-string offense in practice this week.

And moving forward?

"Right now you're concerned about making sure that you win games here," Reid said. "And then what happens down the road happens down the road."

No matter what happens in this short term, the Eagles are going to have to pick a quarterback high in the 2007 draft. Maybe not in the first round, but definitely on the first day.

In the meantime, the Eagles need someone to bridge the gap. It should be A.J. Feeley.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I watched AJ Feeley during mini-camp and training camp this year, and he was pretty clearly outclassed by rookie Charles Whitehurst.

I think Garcia can win games for the Eagles if Westbrook stays healthy. Feeley has better physical tools, though, and played well for the Eagles in the past. So Garcia will probably have a short leash.

 

[DepthCharts]

I believe there are 2 arguements Andy has to sift through to get to the answer:

1 - A proven veteran with even lesser skills than the public recalls (who may or may not "lose" a game for you)

or

2 - The guy we brought in SIMPLY because he knows the playbook, and if we had to use him there was a fork in us already (who may or may not "lose" a game for you)

I think its pretty clear 1 will be the choice, and the old # 3 has never entered the equation, except for now he's the #2 which will require reps in hand during the week.

Garcia Garcia Garcia. It has to be, sadly.

 

[hotdogcollars]

60% Feely??????????????? uhh, can i have what 60% of you are smoking?Does anyone remember AJ "limp arm" Feely's masterpiece down in Miami? There's no way AR brought in Garcia to sit him on the bench. IMO he truly believes that Garcia gives them a chance to win. No, i dont agree with that, but i do think its what AR believes.

My memory is just fine. Before going to Miami, Feeley filled in well when McNabb was hurt. They may give Garcia the first shot, I'm just pointing out that AJ has come through for hom before and they did go get him back after letting him go.

take a look back at those games...they won because of some great D and standout play on O...other than Feely. He "filled in well" only because him teammates made him look like he was worth a 3rd round pick. There's a reason Miami and SD both passed on him after they saw what he really was. As for getting him back, i think its because it came down to Chang, Detmer, or AJ.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

After reviewing Feeley's career and his performances in 2002, I vote Feeley. Garcia is not the answer.

Feeley can also, possibly, be the guy for 2007 early holding the fort until Donovan is ready.

 

[mcnabbmcnow]

Garcia will get the start but I think Feeley will be on before too long, possibly after the Colts game. I think Garcia is done and has no arm, and without a running game, Feeley is the better option.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Two things to add: one, Feeley was not available at the time the Birds signed Garcia. It's possible they may have passed on Garcia at that time too. Two, Feeely threw for 6 TDs and % INts. I believe in the five games that he filled in when McNabb whent down. That defense was awesome. One of the games was a 10-3 win over "The Greatest Show on Turff" where the only TD was an INt return by Bobby Taylor.

I guess my point is anyway you slice it it looks bleak.

 

[warren]

What say you Eagles fans and those that follow the team?And of course, feel free to elaborate more on the situation and how it affects the other players etc.J

As as avid EAGLES fan, My season took a dive last weekend, but as a true Phila sports fan I would never turn my back on the team. Garcia will get the start from coach Andy, which should , in a perfect world, give more runs to Eagle rb's and short passes to te L J Smith . Garcia has'nt shown he can throw the bomb so look for more conservative offense. Of course that's in a perfect world, Coach Andy is stubborn and may try to force the big play, and probably not run enough. It could be at least 2 more games before the Eagles realize that A J Feely has more upside with the pass happy offense of Coach Cheese burlger.