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Eagles Andrews done for the year? (1 Viewer)

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There's a better than an insignificant chance that Shawn Andrews is screwing with us.But if he isn't, the Eagles' All-Pro offensive guard may be facing an injury more complex and troubling than the right ankle sprain that has been disclosed."When I was talking to a specialist, what he said to me was a tear jerker,"Andrews said. "It's kind of tough because (football) is something I love to do, and I can't really be out there to sweat and grunt with my teammates right now."I don't know what the future holds but I'll be OK either way."The 6-4, 335-pound Andrews stood in front of his locker at the NovaCare Complex on Wednesday afternoon with a walking boot on his right leg, cryptically addressing the progress of his rehabilitation from the injury that occurred back at training camp at Lehigh University Aug. 4.He said he hurt the ankle -- the same one that was surgically repaired back in 2004 -- on pass protection on the last play of practice that day. A few days later, he went back to Philadelphia to see a specialist.Asked what could possibly bring him to tears, Andrews replied,"It depends. We all have feelings."However, when the doctor said what he said to me, about the window, and different things, different situations, it was a tear jerker," he went on."However, pain is weakness leaving the body. Pain is not the issue. It's just beyond me."What does "the window" mean? In fact, what does any of it mean?"I can't really say," Andrews said. "Coach (Andy) Reid would probably spank me if I said that. So I'll leave that alone."Spanking aside, Reid's own Wednesday morning injury report stated that Andrews was, "making progress on his ankle. He will not play (on Friday night against Carolina). We'll see how he does next week."Reid has previously reported relatively good news on Andrews' condition, calling it a sprain."That's what I've kind of been informed too," Andrews said. "But it's kind of hard. I wish I could tell you guys, I really do. I care about each and every one of you guys."Again, I haven't had a whupping in a long time, but Coach Reid is a massive man, so he could really hurt me."Andrews' comments notwithstanding, there is genuine cause for concern.He broke his right ankle on the first play of his rookie season in 2004, and if this latest injury turns out to be a complication of the break, Andrews' "window" could refer to a potentially career-shortening chronic condition."Sometimes things happen," he said. "You put a 300-pound-plus body on a leg that's been fixed, that's been broken, you're bound to have problems, especially as hard as I've been working this offseason."Scott Young started for Andrews at guard against Baltimore. If Andrews' absence stretches into the season, he'd likely be replaced by either Young or second-year guard Max Jean-Gilles.Should Andrews' concern turn out to be mere playful media-jousting, however, the timing would be questionable at best.The Eagles suffered a resounding 29-3 defeat in their preseason opener at Baltimore on Monday, a night that ended running back Ryan Moats' season with a broken ankle.The team's injury story turned even darker Wednesday, as defensive end Jerome McDougle and offensive lineman Stefan Rodgers both learned they would undergo season-ending surgery, McDougle for a torn triceps muscle and Rodgers for a lis franc sprain in his right foot.Realistically, Moats, McDougle and Rodgers were all going to have a hard time making the Eagles' final active roster, so the health of the All-Pro Andrews' ankle is certainly newsworthy.But as Andrews spoke, it became less and less clear what that news might be."All I can say is if you cut a man, in time his wounds will heal," Andrews said. "When that time will be, no one knows."It's out of the doctor's hands right now. For right now, it's out of my hands," he continued. "I just have to rehab, and keep praying and keep grinding. See what my future holds."We'll see. Just pray for me, guys. If you care about me."
Nothing concrete for sure but doesn't sound good...
 
I don't know, sounds like he could be just joking a bit in that interview. If he's out for the year, that's a huge loss, but I'm not buying it yet.

 
I don't know, sounds like he could be just joking a bit in that interview. If he's out for the year, that's a huge loss, but I'm not buying it yet.
It's really weird that he's not coming out and saying anything, but why would he joke about a career/season ending injury? Doesn't really seem like the type of thing you'd play a joke on the media with. I'm praying that you're right though.
 
I don't know, sounds like he could be just joking a bit in that interview. If he's out for the year, that's a huge loss, but I'm not buying it yet.
I saw the video on the news this evening and its def not good news. Andrews had a bit of water in his eyes and He looked short for words to explain it.
 
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Scott Young started for Andrews at guard against Baltimore. If Andrews' absence stretches into the season, he'd likely be replaced by either Young or second-year guard Max Jean-Gilles.

Should Andrews' concern turn out to be mere playful media-jousting, however, the timing would be questionable at best.

Are there any homers out there that know who has the upper hand????

I just signed Andrews to a BIG RFA contract and I need to handcuff him with the winner.

 
Honestly, I don't know what to say on this one. The Eagles clearly like to mess around with people though regarding injuries. Like McNabb popping off about being "72% healthy" or whatever. The Eagles are as secretive as the Patriots and Broncos about injuries. It wouldn't surprise me if his career was over and it wouldn't surprise me if he's back on the practice field next week.

If he's done, that's a huge blow for the Eagles in both the running game and passing game. Nothing like losing one of the best guards in the league when your QB is coming back from an ACL injury. But if he ends up being fine, then the Eagles' Oline is right back up near the top in the league.

 
Scott Young started for Andrews at guard against Baltimore. If Andrews' absence stretches into the season, he'd likely be replaced by either Young or second-year guard Max Jean-Gilles.

Should Andrews' concern turn out to be mere playful media-jousting, however, the timing would be questionable at best.

Are there any homers out there that know who has the upper hand????

I just signed Andrews to a BIG RFA contract and I need to handcuff him with the winner.
Scott Young would be his immediate replacement, there is little doubt about that. If this thing goes all season than only Young's play will determine how long he gets to hold that spot. Young is a converted d lineman from BYU with freakish strength and has been around for about 3 years now, so they obviously see something they like. He also has a little game experience, started the second half of the playoff loss to the Saints when Andrews went down with the neck injury. Jean-Gilles is still a little raw at this point. That being said, Reid was on a local radio show & stated he thinks Andrews has a shot of returning for the season opener , based on how the healing has been progressing. It is Reid's belief that Andrews was speaking out of fear because the sprain occurred on the same ankle that was surgically repaired his rookie season. Scott Young or Jean-Gilles is HUGE step down from Andrews. He is already one of the best guards in the game. The entire line takes a hit if he misses significant time.
 
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I'd really like to see Max Jean-Giles step in and see what the kid brings to the table. He's understandably a major step down but projects well to fill the void left behind Andrews. I think people will be plesantly surprised, although he will by no means pick up where Andrews left off.

 
I'd really like to see Max Jean-Giles step in and see what the kid brings to the table. He's understandably a major step down but projects well to fill the void left behind Andrews. I think people will be plesantly surprised, although he will by no means pick up where Andrews left off.
He doesn't project well in the passing game. Andrews is a dancing bear, Jean-Gilles' lateral mobility & pass blocking earned him a second day draft spot. He's a monster moving straight ahead, side to side? Not so much. I'll give him credit, he lost a ton of weight in the offseason which shows a level of dedication that I wasn't sure he had, but I still think that Young's time in the system, better mobility (he was a candidate for the pivot prior to JJ's emergence), and game experience will provide the coaching staff a comfort level that Jean-Gilles doesn't. You may be right in regards to Jean-Gilles having a bigger upside down the road, but right now I think he'd really, really have to shine & Young would have to really suck the rest of the preseason for them to flip flop. Hopefully it's all a moot point, Andrews is far and away the best offensive lineman on the squad and a big reason for Jackson's early success.
 
Here is a thread that should go several pages but won't...yet it's one of the most important of any on the front page in this forum. Let's talk about which OL are most important when they go down with injuries and also what positions it affects.

1. When a LG/RG or C go down, it typically has a strong impact on the RB. The reason is simple. A lot of runs are designed to go between the tackles. I can remember Priest wanting to run OT behind Willie Roaf as much as possible but most RB tend to look for holes in the "A" gaps and run north and south...at least that is what most coaches and OC are designing. Yes, there are exceptions but remember when SF was getting hounded in the 80's for running too many sweeps with Roger Craig at times? Sorry to get nostalgic on you all.

2. When a LT or RT hits the IR it usually has a stronger impact on the passing game. Why? Because the DE come flying around those sides and wreck havoc on the passing game for QB with added pressure. A RB can still run up in the middle when they lose guys at the Tackle spots.

Now when you look at Westbrook a few things would come to mind. While he isn't a pounder, almost all RB run up the middle...even Warrick Dunn who is small likes to run up the middle in Atlanta. So Westbrook could see a hit in his run production as Andrews is one of the top 3-5 Guards in the NFL, no question about it. But when you take Westbrook, you usually are salivating over his receptions and ability to be a dual threat. So I think Westbrook still has a lot of value and production but his room to run between the Tackles just took a major hit. They will miss Andrews big time.

Great thread in bringing this to everyone's attention.

 
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Reid rebuffed this and probably will again in his PC within the hour.

I predict he will sit out the rest of the pre-season and be fine week 1 (with the aid of pain killers).

 
Well, that interview couldn't be more cryptic.

As for reasons why they'd want not to simply divulge a serious injury, that would reduce their bargaining position in trade or in the free agent market should they want to go that route.

Maybe Andrews and Reid are both right. Andrews sees his career window closing because he's been diagnosed with a chronic degenerative condition in that previously-injured ankle, but it's not so immediately serious that he couldn't begin the season in the lineup like Reid said.

We're all guessing at this point, but I'd point out that usually when someone is diagnosed with a season ending injury that's a fact that's pretty tough to disguise from the local beat writers who are crowded around the team, day in and day out, at their training camp facility.

 
Here is a thread that should go several pages but won't...yet it's one of the most important of any on the front page in this forum. Let's talk about which OL are most important when they go down with injuries and also what positions it affects.

1. When a LG/RG or C go down, it typically has a strong impact on the RB. The reason is simple. A lot of runs are designed to go between the tackles. I can remember Priest wanting to run OT behind Willie Roaf as much as possible but most RB tend to look for holes in the "A" gaps and run north and south...at least that is what most coaches and OC are designing. Yes, there are exceptions but remember when SF was getting hounded in the 80's for running too many sweeps with Roger Craig at times? Sorry to get nostalgic on you all.
Great post. We went through that here in Detroit last year. With 3rd stringers starting at both guard spots, the middle of the line caved in a lot. There was no room to run, no time to make a cut, nothing. Short yardage, forget it. People dogged Kevin Jones because of his YPC and lack of production in short yardage, but anyone who watched the Lions play knows why. The majority of the blame is on the line. The guards are vastly underrated in a running game. Look at Seattle without Hutchinson for another example.

 
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Here's an article from the Metro:

Big-man Banter

Andrews’ ankle a joking matter

NFL. Even with a boot on his injured right ankle, Pro Bowl guard Shawn Andrews is in fine spirits. Andrews was smiling, cracking jokes and laughing yesterday in the Eagles locker room.

All the jubilation might not be justified. Andrews doesn’t appear close to returning and, even though he wouldn’t give specifics on the injury, he hinted it might be serious.

“It’s tough, when I was talking to a specialist and what he said to me, it was a tear-jerker. It’s kind of tough, [playing football] is something I love to do,” Andrews said. “I don’t know what the future holds, but I’ll be OK either way.”

Andrews, who had surgery on the right ankle his rookie year, said all this with a smile. He also joked that if he talked in detail about the injury, coach Andy Reid would spank him. But Andrews finally got serious when answering one question.

“When you have a 300-pound body on a leg that has been fixed, that’s been broke,” Andrews said, “you’re bound to have problems.” Jordan Raanan

 
Maybe Andrews and Reid are both right. Andrews sees his career window closing because he's been diagnosed with a chronic degenerative condition in that previously-injured ankle, but it's not so immediately serious that he couldn't begin the season in the lineup like Reid said.
Thats the best guess i have seen so far as it would accurately explain all of the reactions from Reid and Andrews. Just like Andrewws says, injuring a part that had been seriously hurt before cant be good for business. No matter what, unless this is all a big sham, it cant be good for OL continuity.
 
Spadaro is saying "high ankle sprain"; out for "couple weeks"; "nothing changed at Specialist". Not official from Reid, but considering it happened over a week ago that would put a 6 week period of rest between weeks 2 and 3 of the season. I still say he's back week 1.

 
Says Reid, "We've taken this and blown it way out of proportion" and says "Andrews is just an emotional guy and is frustrated because he's not on the field. His emotion was more him wanting to play than a reaction to news he received."

 
From the blogger--

G Andrews Should Be Healthy By Opener

Eagles HC Andy Reid said Thursday that he expects that injured G Shawn Andrews will be ready in time for the season opening game at Green Bay. There had been doubt after Andrews gave a mysterious and emotional interview Wednesday.

 

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