Ebola (2 Viewers)

[Tom Servo]

Has anyone mentioned that more people have been married to Kim Kardashian than have died of ebola? I feel this point can't be made strongly enough.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Has anyone mentioned that more people have been married to Kim Kardashian than have died of ebola? I feel this point can't be made strongly enough.

I think it's up to about 5000 people genius.

 

[Al O'Pecia]

For all you fear mongers in the NYC area, this expert provides the best way to avoid contracting ebola...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6Wrdal-zto&feature=youtu.be

"If you came across some strange mucus, or feces, or something out there -- on the subway, the street, or anywhere else -- you know... don't eat it!"

 

[timschochet]

Jon If I were in charge of one of those African countries you listed, with their lack of sanitation, high poverty, and lack of medical facilities, you're damn right I would enforce travel bans. Who needs Ebola on top of all the other diseases I've got?

But any western country who imposes a travel ban at this point is simply panicking for no good reason.

 

[jon_mx]

Has anyone mentioned that more people have been married to Kim Kardashian than have died of ebola? I feel this point can't be made strongly enough.

I think it's up to about 5000 people genius.

African people do not count to some

 

[Harry Manback]

Fox 5 just reported a person n New Jersey hospitalized with ebola-like symptoms.

Apparently on the same day she got back to the US.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/24/health/new-york-ebola-case/

The second health care worker, a woman who hasn't been identified by name, did not have any Ebola symptoms upon arrival Friday at Newark Liberty International Airport, New Jersey health department spokesman Donna Leusner said.

Yet things changed in the hours that followed. According to Leusner, "This evening, the health care worker developed a fever and is now in isolation and being evaluated at University Hospital in Newark."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/25/health/us-ebola/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Jon If I were in charge of one of those African countries you listed, with their lack of sanitation, high poverty, and lack of medical facilities, you're damn right I would enforce travel bans. Who needs Ebola on top of all the other diseases I've got?

But any western country who imposes a travel ban at this point is simply panicking for no good reason.

News about the ebowler overshadowed the positive PR that Obama also got a hug from Nina Pham after her dog Bentley.

 

[Fennis]

Jon If I were in charge of one of those African countries you listed, with their lack of sanitation, high poverty, and lack of medical facilities, you're damn right I would enforce travel bans. Who needs Ebola on top of all the other diseases I've got?

But any western country who imposes a travel ban at this point is simply panicking for no good reason.

News about the ebowler overshadowed the positive PR that Obama also got a hug from Nina Pham after her dog Bentley.

He is trying to show people whose concern from Ebola is over the top that they don't need to panic.

Did it work?

 

[Fennis]

Gay community under attack in Liberia over Ebola outbreak

DAKAR/NEW YORK (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Leroy Ponpon doesn't know whether to lock himself in his flat in Monrovia because of the deadly Ebola virus, or because he is gay. Christian churches' recent linking of the two have made life hell for him and hundreds of other gays.

Ponpon, an LGBT campaigner in the Liberian capital, says gays have been harassed, physically attacked and a few have had their cars smashed by people blaming them for the hemorrhagic fever, after religious leaders in Liberia said Ebola was a punishment from God for homosexuality.

"Since church ministers declared Ebola was a plague sent by God to punish sodomy in Liberia, the violence toward gays has escalated. They're even asking for the death penalty. We're living in fear," Ponpon told the Thomson Reuters Foundation by telephone from Monrovia.


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Ebola has infected almost 10,000 people in West Africa since March, killing around half its victims. Liberia is the worst hit country where poverty, corruption and civil war have left a weak health system unable to cope with the exponential spread of the disease.

Some religious leaders have their own interpretation of the causes of Ebola.

Earlier this year, the Liberian Council of Churches said in a statement that God was angry with Liberians "over corruption and immoral acts" such as homosexuality, and that Ebola was a punishment.

In May, Archbishop Lewis Zeigler of the Catholic Church of Liberia said that "one of the major transgressions against God for which He may be punishing Liberia is the act of homosexuality," local media reported.

Francois Patuel, Amnesty International's representative in West Africa, said there had been reports of threats and violence against the LGBTI community in Monrovia since the incendiary remarks made by the local Christian leaders.

"Amnesty has received pictures of cars that reportedly belong to gays with their windows smashed as well as reports that gays have been forced from their homes and had to go into hiding," Patuel told the Thomson Reuters Foundation.

Neither the Catholic Church nor the Liberian Council of Churches could be reached in Monrovia. Representatives of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and the Episcopal Church did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

COVER OF DARKNESS

Ponpon prefers to move at night. He is scared to be identified in daylight after the local press splashed his picture and phone number across the front pages. But the Ebola curfew, running from 11 p.m. to 6 a.m., has complicated things.

"In the day, we move around wearing sunglasses and disguises. The problem with moving at night is that it is not safe in Monrovia in the dark, and also, if you violate the Ebola curfew, it is punishable by imprisonment," he said.

The curfew has affected the LGBT community in another way. When activists contact the police for protection, they reply that because of the Ebola emergency and the curfew put in place to combat the disease, they cannot help, Ponpon said.

Violence against the LGBT community was already common in West Africa before the Ebola outbreak, and same-sex relationships are still largely taboo in many African countries. A recent Gallup poll showed Africa as the worst continent for gay people.

National laws in West Africa are in line with public sentiment. In Liberia, 'voluntary sodomy' is a first-degree misdemeanor with a penalty of up to one year in jail, according to the International Lesbian Gay Bisexual Trans and Intersex Association (ILGA).

Patuel said Amnesty had received no reports of similar incidents in other Ebola-stricken countries in the region, and urged African states to stand up for minorities.

"In August this year the African Union passed a resolution for the protection of LGBTi rights. The authorities must adopt this into their national law and take action against homophobic statements to protect its citizens," Patuel said.

In Liberia, Ponpon's demands are simple: "Right now, all we want is protection. We want the government to come forward and say that this is a minority group and they deserve the same rights as anyone else and then people will stop attacking us."

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Jon If I were in charge of one of those African countries you listed, with their lack of sanitation, high poverty, and lack of medical facilities, you're damn right I would enforce travel bans. Who needs Ebola on top of all the other diseases I've got?

But any western country who imposes a travel ban at this point is simply panicking for no good reason.

News about the ebowler overshadowed the positive PR that Obama also got a hug from Nina Pham after her dog Bentley.

He is trying to show people whose concern from Ebola is over the top that they don't need to panic.

Did it work?

Worked as well as Michelle telling kids to eat turnips while Obama is out wolfing down cheeseburgers and fries.

 

[RUSF18]

Guess who's been sitting in Bellevue for the past 12 hours after a near overdose by his sister in law?

This guy.

Thankfully she's going to be okay.

 

[Guest]

Guess who's been sitting in Bellevue for the past 12 hours after a near overdose by his sister in law?

This guy.

Thankfully she's going to be okay.

Sorry. Glad she's going to be okay.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Nice

Nina Pham was the first person to catch Ebola on U.S. soil, and now, 13 days after testing positive, she has been declared free of the deadly disease.

Her first order of business will be to hug her dog, Bentley, she said Friday.

And Obama

 

[Fennis]

Guess who's been sitting in Bellevue for the past 12 hours after a near overdose by his sister in law?

This guy.

Thankfully she's going to be okay.

Sorry. Glad she's going to be okay.

All the best to your SIL

 

[The Z Machine]

Does anyone have any insight into the treatments that Pham and Vinson underwent? They went from onset to "cured" very quickly. I know that Dr. Brantley donated plasma (and possible other fluids) and one would assume that Pham and Vinson may be called upon to do the same. From what Iv'e read, treatment comes down to successfully managing the fluid loss at peak viral load / fever.

 

[Fennis]

Does anyone have any insight into the treatments that Pham and Vinson underwent? They went from onset to "cured" very quickly. I know that Dr. Brantley donated plasma (and possible other fluids) and one would assume that Pham and Vinson may be called upon to do the same. From what I've read, treatment comes down to successfully managing the fluid loss at peak viral load / fever.

I've been curious about the the same. Pham received plasma from Brantley and IV. Amazingly to me (I dont know if she was on a drug treatment prior to being transfered):

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/texas-nurse-nina-pham-cured-of-ebola-611543

Pham did not receive any experimental Ebola drugs while at the specialized research hospital in Bethesda, Maryland, said Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases

.

 

[Fennis]

another good recap of treatment:

Why Has Nurse Amber Vinson Recovered From Ebola So Quickly?

some snips:

Early medical intervention is likely to be associated with a better outcome. One of the continuing challenges in Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone is that there are too few hospital beds available for Ebola patients,” Jacobsen said. “Home-based care is sometimes the only option available to people infected with Ebola in West Africa, and that generally means having no access to IV fluids, oxygen, or antibiotics for secondary bacterial infections, which are all therapies that improve Ebola survival rates.”

They felt that measuring and precisely replacing these electrolytes made a big difference. Brantly also got what’s called convalescent serum — blood taken for an Ebola survivor — as well as an experimental drug called ZMapp.

Yet Brantly took far longer to recover than Vinson. He was diagnosed July 26 and not released until Aug. 21. One big difference — his early days of treatment took place in Liberia before he was stable enough to be flown to the U.S.

With Ebola, it is possible that early care can provide integral support to the body while it mounts its immune response, hence allowing it to clear the virus quickly,” Bhadelia said. “We know for a fact that early intervention can help decrease mortality in most cases. In the case of the two nurses, I think it’s probably a combination of these factors.”

 

[Josie Maran]

Jon If I were in charge of one of those African countries you listed, with their lack of sanitation, high poverty, and lack of medical facilities, you're damn right I would enforce travel bans. Who needs Ebola on top of all the other diseases I've got?

But any western country who imposes a travel ban at this point is simply panicking for no good reason.

So nativitist. So ugly.

 

[jon_mx]

For all you fear mongers in the NYC area, this expert provides the best way to avoid contracting ebola...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6Wrdal-zto&feature=youtu.be

"If you came across some strange mucus, or feces, or something out there -- on the subway, the street, or anywhere else -- you know... don't eat it!"

Yes, because eating #### is the only way to get it. Someone go tell all those doctors and nurses to stop eating the ####.

 

[3C's]

For all you fear mongers in the NYC area, this expert provides the best way to avoid contracting ebola...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6Wrdal-zto&feature=youtu.be

"If you came across some strange mucus, or feces, or something out there -- on the subway, the street, or anywhere else -- you know... don't eat it!"

Yes, because eating #### is the only way to get it. Someone go tell all those doctors and nurses to stop eating the ####.

:whoosh:

 

[Clown Car]

Funny thing happened in Tallahassee thus week. My friend us the director of a homeschool co op. She told me a family quit because the father, who works at the main hospital in town, doesn't want his family in public as much as possible because he fears them catching the Ebola. But he isn't quitting his job.

 

[3C's]

I'm so confused right now.

 

[matuski]

For all you fear mongers in the NYC area, this expert provides the best way to avoid contracting ebola...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6Wrdal-zto&feature=youtu.be

"If you came across some strange mucus, or feces, or something out there -- on the subway, the street, or anywhere else -- you know... don't eat it!"

Yes, because eating #### is the only way to get it. Someone go tell all those doctors and nurses to stop eating the ####.

I believe you are the one who came up with the "WHAT IF THEY POOP ON ME!? hypothetical.

[SIZE=11.8181819915771px]eta - but just so we can see if you have made any progress - what IS the only way you can contract the virus?[/SIZE]

 

[3C's]

Damn, now when I see the thread title I get this stuck in my head. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uz_dehG2M8

 

[3C's]

http://www.dallasnews.com/ebola/headlines/20141025-uta-grad-isolated-at-new-jersey-hospital-as-part-of-ebola-quarantine.ece

I had spent a month watching children die, alone. I had witnessed human tragedy unfold before my eyes. I had tried to help when much of the world has looked on and done nothing.

I sat alone in the isolation tent and thought of many colleagues who will return home to America and face the same ordeal. Will they be made to feel like criminals and prisoners?

 

[The Z Machine]

Powerful first person account. I'm glad she shared that.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

http://www.dallasnews.com/ebola/headlines/20141025-uta-grad-isolated-at-new-jersey-hospital-as-part-of-ebola-quarantine.ece

I had spent a month watching children die, alone. I had witnessed human tragedy unfold before my eyes. I had tried to help when much of the world has looked on and done nothing.

I sat alone in the isolation tent and thought of many colleagues who will return home to America and face the same ordeal. Will they be made to feel like criminals and prisoners?

"I spent the last several months watching people die from this illness, and I just don't understand why public health experts want to verify that I'm not carrying the same disease before I stroll back into the country."

 

[msommer]

http://www.dallasnews.com/ebola/headlines/20141025-uta-grad-isolated-at-new-jersey-hospital-as-part-of-ebola-quarantine.ece

I had spent a month watching children die, alone. I had witnessed human tragedy unfold before my eyes. I had tried to help when much of the world has looked on and done nothing.

I sat alone in the isolation tent and thought of many colleagues who will return home to America and face the same ordeal. Will they be made to feel like criminals and prisoners?

"I spent the last several months watching people die from this illness, and I just don't understand why public health experts want to verify that I'm not carrying the same disease before I stroll back into the country."

I think she just wanted to know what was going on, to have someone be in charge and explain what was about to happen and why. For the procedures to make sense and not to be treated by a criminal.

 

[matuski]

http://www.dallasnews.com/ebola/headlines/20141025-uta-grad-isolated-at-new-jersey-hospital-as-part-of-ebola-quarantine.ece

I had spent a month watching children die, alone. I had witnessed human tragedy unfold before my eyes. I had tried to help when much of the world has looked on and done nothing.

I sat alone in the isolation tent and thought of many colleagues who will return home to America and face the same ordeal. Will they be made to feel like criminals and prisoners?

"I spent the last several months watching people die from this illness, and I just don't understand why public health experts want to verify that I'm not carrying the same disease before I stroll back into the country."

These weren't public health care experts. This was some bottom of the barrel customs/border patrol agent and random people - swiping her forehead?

 

[3C's]

http://www.dallasnews.com/ebola/headlines/20141025-uta-grad-isolated-at-new-jersey-hospital-as-part-of-ebola-quarantine.ece

I had spent a month watching children die, alone. I had witnessed human tragedy unfold before my eyes. I had tried to help when much of the world has looked on and done nothing.

I sat alone in the isolation tent and thought of many colleagues who will return home to America and face the same ordeal. Will they be made to feel like criminals and prisoners?

"I spent the last several months watching people die from this illness, and I just don't understand why public health experts want to verify that I'm not carrying the same disease before I stroll back into the country."

Public health EXPERTS seem to agree if you're not showing symptoms you are not a risk of spreading the disease.

 

[3C's]

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2014/10/26/sotu-crowley-nih-dr-anthony-fauci-ebola-quarantine-unintended-consequences.cnn.html

 

[Christo]

Dele Adebola does not have ebola

 

[3C's]

 

[culdeus]

http://www.dallasnews.com/ebola/headlines/20141025-uta-grad-isolated-at-new-jersey-hospital-as-part-of-ebola-quarantine.ece

I had spent a month watching children die, alone. I had witnessed human tragedy unfold before my eyes. I had tried to help when much of the world has looked on and done nothing.

I sat alone in the isolation tent and thought of many colleagues who will return home to America and face the same ordeal. Will they be made to feel like criminals and prisoners?

"I spent the last several months watching people die from this illness, and I just don't understand why public health experts want to verify that I'm not carrying the same disease before I stroll back into the country."

Public health EXPERTS seem to agree if you're not showing symptoms you are not a risk of spreading the disease.

What about if you don't smear ebola poop in your eyes you won't catch it. Because that seems to be the only way people are getting this.

 

[3C's]

Regular poop is okay though right? A friend would like to know.

 

[Fennis]

Regular poop is okay though right? A friend would like to know.

NYC Officials Assure Public Most Puddles Of Bodily Fluid On Streets Not Contaminated With Ebola

 

[Fennis]

http://www.dallasnews.com/ebola/headlines/20141025-uta-grad-isolated-at-new-jersey-hospital-as-part-of-ebola-quarantine.ece

I had spent a month watching children die, alone. I had witnessed human tragedy unfold before my eyes. I had tried to help when much of the world has looked on and done nothing.

I sat alone in the isolation tent and thought of many colleagues who will return home to America and face the same ordeal. Will they be made to feel like criminals and prisoners?

"I spent the last several months watching people die from this illness, and I just don't understand why public health experts want to verify that I'm not carrying the same disease before I stroll back into the country."

Public health EXPERTS seem to agree if you're not showing symptoms you are not a risk of spreading the disease.

The public health officials IK is referring to must be Chris Christie, Andrew Cuomo, and Sean Hannity.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Funny thing happened in Tallahassee thus week. My friend us the director of a homeschool co op. She told me a family quit because the father, who works at the main hospital in town, doesn't want his family in public as much as possible because he fears them catching the Ebola. But he isn't quitting his job.

Florida + homeschool = not surprised in the least.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

http://www.dallasnews.com/ebola/headlines/20141025-uta-grad-isolated-at-new-jersey-hospital-as-part-of-ebola-quarantine.ece

I had spent a month watching children die, alone. I had witnessed human tragedy unfold before my eyes. I had tried to help when much of the world has looked on and done nothing.

I sat alone in the isolation tent and thought of many colleagues who will return home to America and face the same ordeal. Will they be made to feel like criminals and prisoners?

"I spent the last several months watching people die from this illness, and I just don't understand why public health experts want to verify that I'm not carrying the same disease before I stroll back into the country."

Public health EXPERTS seem to agree if you're not showing symptoms you are not a risk of spreading the disease.

And yet hospitals are quarantining people who came into contact with the Ebola victims despite showing no symptoms.

Edit: I'm talking specifically about the three people who came into contact with the NY doctor who were subsequently quarantined. From what I can tell, one of them has already been cleared/released while the other two are still being held.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

http://www.dallasnews.com/ebola/headlines/20141025-uta-grad-isolated-at-new-jersey-hospital-as-part-of-ebola-quarantine.ece

I had spent a month watching children die, alone. I had witnessed human tragedy unfold before my eyes. I had tried to help when much of the world has looked on and done nothing.

I sat alone in the isolation tent and thought of many colleagues who will return home to America and face the same ordeal. Will they be made to feel like criminals and prisoners?

"I spent the last several months watching people die from this illness, and I just don't understand why public health experts want to verify that I'm not carrying the same disease before I stroll back into the country."

I think she just wanted to know what was going on, to have someone be in charge and explain what was about to happen and why. For the procedures to make sense and not to be treated by a criminal.

I think it's highly likely that she knew exactly what was going on. I doubt it's possible to get a nursing degree and not understand the basic idea behind screening folks for a possible quarantine. Also, while she keeps telling us how very, very scared she was during this whole scary ordeal with scary men who didn't properly introduce themselves and who carried scary weapons belts (probably with scary guns), I doubt she was actually particularly frightened. She just dropped everything to spend a few months in a political unstable nation treating very sick and highly contagious people, so I doubt she scares easily. This article is all just an appeal to fear -- not hers, but yours.

(If she really was as terrified as she says, then we shouldn't take much of her account at face value since it's unlikely that she was recalling all the details right or giving a good objective account of the process).

 

[3C's]

 

[Apple Jack]

 

[Fennis]

http://www.dallasnews.com/ebola/headlines/20141025-uta-grad-isolated-at-new-jersey-hospital-as-part-of-ebola-quarantine.ece

I had spent a month watching children die, alone. I had witnessed human tragedy unfold before my eyes. I had tried to help when much of the world has looked on and done nothing.

I sat alone in the isolation tent and thought of many colleagues who will return home to America and face the same ordeal. Will they be made to feel like criminals and prisoners?

"I spent the last several months watching people die from this illness, and I just don't understand why public health experts want to verify that I'm not carrying the same disease before I stroll back into the country."

I think she just wanted to know what was going on, to have someone be in charge and explain what was about to happen and why. For the procedures to make sense and not to be treated by a criminal.

I think it's highly likely that she knew exactly what was going on. I doubt it's possible to get a nursing degree and not understand the basic idea behind screening folks for a possible quarantine. Also, while she keeps telling us how very, very scared she was during this whole scary ordeal with scary men who didn't properly introduce themselves and who carried scary weapons belts (probably with scary guns), I doubt she was actually particularly frightened. She just dropped everything to spend a few months in a political unstable nation treating very sick and highly contagious people, so I doubt she scares easily. This article is all just an appeal to fear -- not hers, but yours.

(If she really was as terrified as she says, then we shouldn't take much of her account at face value since it's unlikely that she was recalling all the details right or giving a good objective account of the process).

Her day job is a Epidemic Intelligence Service Fellow at Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. She went to The Johns Hopkins University. And her previous experience included being a research assistant at The Johns Hopkins University School of Public Health where she worked on H1N1

ETA: Manager of medical programs including:

• Myanmar (2007-2009), primary health care manager of 3

clinics with over 40 staff, initiated reproductive health

activities, fixed malaria microscopy, 9 malnutrition sites

treating over 1200 children during the hunger gap

season, and outbreak response (cholera and measles)

• Sudan, Darfur (2009), medical team lead for inpatient and

outpatient care activities in West Darfur, closure of

project, support capital activities including emergency

preparedness planning.

• Nigeria (2010), medical team lead for measles outbreak

(2,000 children diagnosed and treated weekly by mobile

and fixed clinics), meningitis surveillance, secondary

response to acute lead poisoning outbreak involving

several villages in Zamfara state.

• Uganda (December 2010 - January 2011), yellow fever

outbreak case management and surveillance

 

[Fennis]

Pretty impressive. I think the thoughts of a public health official is interesting to hear.

 

[msommer]

Regular poop is okay though right? A friend dentist would like to know.

fyp

 

[IvanKaramazov]

http://www.dallasnews.com/ebola/headlines/20141025-uta-grad-isolated-at-new-jersey-hospital-as-part-of-ebola-quarantine.ece

I had spent a month watching children die, alone. I had witnessed human tragedy unfold before my eyes. I had tried to help when much of the world has looked on and done nothing.

I sat alone in the isolation tent and thought of many colleagues who will return home to America and face the same ordeal. Will they be made to feel like criminals and prisoners?

"I spent the last several months watching people die from this illness, and I just don't understand why public health experts want to verify that I'm not carrying the same disease before I stroll back into the country."

I think she just wanted to know what was going on, to have someone be in charge and explain what was about to happen and why. For the procedures to make sense and not to be treated by a criminal.

I think it's highly likely that she knew exactly what was going on. I doubt it's possible to get a nursing degree and not understand the basic idea behind screening folks for a possible quarantine. Also, while she keeps telling us how very, very scared she was during this whole scary ordeal with scary men who didn't properly introduce themselves and who carried scary weapons belts (probably with scary guns), I doubt she was actually particularly frightened. She just dropped everything to spend a few months in a political unstable nation treating very sick and highly contagious people, so I doubt she scares easily. This article is all just an appeal to fear -- not hers, but yours.

(If she really was as terrified as she says, then we shouldn't take much of her account at face value since it's unlikely that she was recalling all the details right or giving a good objective account of the process).

Her day job is a Epidemic Intelligence Service Fellow at Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. She went to The Johns Hopkins University. And her previous experience included being a research assistant at The Johns Hopkins University School of Public Health where she worked on H1N1

ETA: Manager of medical programs including:

• Myanmar (2007-2009), primary health care manager of 3

clinics with over 40 staff, initiated reproductive health

activities, fixed malaria microscopy, 9 malnutrition sites

treating over 1200 children during the hunger gap

season, and outbreak response (cholera and measles)

• Sudan, Darfur (2009), medical team lead for inpatient and

outpatient care activities in West Darfur, closure of

project, support capital activities including emergency

preparedness planning.

• Nigeria (2010), medical team lead for measles outbreak

(2,000 children diagnosed and treated weekly by mobile

and fixed clinics), meningitis surveillance, secondary

response to acute lead poisoning outbreak involving

several villages in Zamfara state.

• Uganda (December 2010 - January 2011), yellow fever

outbreak case management and surveillance

That's what I mean. I found it really hard to believe that somebody with medical training sincerely didn't understand how a quarantine worked.

 

[3C's]

I fail to see where she said she was scared of some "scary ordeal" with "scary men." She was held in an office at the airport for 6 hours or more. People coming and going with no sense of organization. She was treated poorly in her estimation. She is scared that others who follow will be put through similar "inconveniences", to quote the large man in NJ.

 

[Sinn Fein]

I hope doctor and nurses stop going to Africa to help.

I mean this is 'Murica, and we have to look after our own. #### everyone else. We just like to be fat, drunk and stupid.

 

[Fennis]

I hope doctor and nurses stop going to Africa to help.

I mean this is 'Murica, and we have to look after our own. #### everyone else. We just like to be fat, drunk and stupid.

Cant be too careful. The American death count is up to zero.

 

[3C's]

I hope doctor and nurses stop going to Africa to help.

I mean this is 'Murica, and we have to look after our own. #### everyone else. We just like to be fat, drunk and stupid.

The nerve of those medical professionals going over there to help when we have plenty of sick people here.