Ebola (1 Viewer)

[TheIronSheik]

Anyone know what the cost is to get treatment? I'm guessing it's not covered by insurance. Was just wondering if there have been any reports saying how much the treatment runs.

More than $100K less than $500K.

Duncan's 9-day cost were estimated at $500,000 and he had no insurance.

Wow. I guess if you're going to Africa you should really put money in your Flex Spending Account.

 

[3C's]

Anyone know what the cost is to get treatment? I'm guessing it's not covered by insurance. Was just wondering if there have been any reports saying how much the treatment runs.

So far the treatment has only been necessary for doctors and nurses who have heroically volunteered to go to West Africa and try and save lives. Therefore I'm guessing it has been paid for by our government, and rightly so.

Why would it be paid by our government? The government had nothing to do with them being there. They were with doctors without borders. I would think that group or individual insurance plans would cover it. Though insurance would probably view it as uncovered risk.

 

[jon_mx]

It appears that Ebola is a disease that is tough to get and easily treated, as long as it's caught early and with proper treatment. It will never be an issue in the western world.

I understood the fear in the beginning, now it's just silly.

I think the sample size to suggest just how easily treated this disease is is wwwwaaayyyyyy to small. I am not even sure I would characterize it as 'easily' since it may take blood transfusions and constant care of people in full body HAZMAT suits.

You're clinging to some way to justify your earlier over-the-top comments. Just admit you were wrong and move on. I'm wrong often around here; I admit it, and change my mind. Why are you so reluctant to do this?

never gonna happen

I am not sure what I was wrong about. I know at least a half dozen people who have no idea what exponential growth is or how it applies on this thread were absolutely wrong, but they will never admit it.

I'm not certain either but I know you won't agree with tim thinking you're wrong. And my math minor would say you're wrong about whether I have an idea what exponential equations are.

I was thinking it was you who did not seem to understant that exponential growth was associated with a constant growth rate. Just saying.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

Anyone know what the cost is to get treatment? I'm guessing it's not covered by insurance. Was just wondering if there have been any reports saying how much the treatment runs.

So far the treatment has only been necessary for doctors and nurses who have heroically volunteered to go to West Africa and try and save lives. Therefore I'm guessing it has been paid for by our government, and rightly so.

With this line of thinking....Quarantines should be mandatory....If we the people are going to pay for their care, they should have to jump threw whatever hoops that will ease we the peoples concerns.

 

[3C's]

It appears that Ebola is a disease that is tough to get and easily treated, as long as it's caught early and with proper treatment. It will never be an issue in the western world.

I understood the fear in the beginning, now it's just silly.

I think the sample size to suggest just how easily treated this disease is is wwwwaaayyyyyy to small. I am not even sure I would characterize it as 'easily' since it may take blood transfusions and constant care of people in full body HAZMAT suits.

You're clinging to some way to justify your earlier over-the-top comments. Just admit you were wrong and move on. I'm wrong often around here; I admit it, and change my mind. Why are you so reluctant to do this?

never gonna happen

I am not sure what I was wrong about. I know at least a half dozen people who have no idea what exponential growth is or how it applies on this thread were absolutely wrong, but they will never admit it.

I'm not certain either but I know you won't agree with tim thinking you're wrong. And my math minor would say you're wrong about whether I have an idea what exponential equations are.

I was thinking it was you who did not seem to understant that exponential growth was associated with a constant growth rate. Just saying.

I was basing it specifically off a 5000 to 10000 number you were throwing out. For it to go from 10 to 5000 (which the later post with curve showed) would be exponential. At any rate, not going to beat that into the ground any more.

 

[timschochet]

It appears that Ebola is a disease that is tough to get and easily treated, as long as it's caught early and with proper treatment. It will never be an issue in the western world.

I understood the fear in the beginning, now it's just silly.

I think the sample size to suggest just how easily treated this disease is is wwwwaaayyyyyy to small. I am not even sure I would characterize it as 'easily' since it may take blood transfusions and constant care of people in full body HAZMAT suits.

You're clinging to some way to justify your earlier over-the-top comments. Just admit you were wrong and move on. I'm wrong often around here; I admit it, and change my mind. Why are you so reluctant to do this?

What over the top comment? Our sample size is like 4? People are thinking this diseased is licked based on that? seriously?

You and a few others have behaved like this was a disease that is (a) mortally dangerous, not just to West Africa but to the USA as well. You have called for travel bans from West Africa. You have defended silly, panicky moves, like when the Texas university rejected applicants from the 3 countries involved, or when the principal was made to stay home because he spent a couple nights a few miles away from the Dallas hospital where the first patient was treated. You termed these reasonable in the name of caution. You have consistently predicted that this disease would increase by 10,000 people a week in Africa, using as your source the most extreme range of guesses by the WHO, from over a month ago. You stated at one point that Ebola was "in the rivers."

You have been among the loudest of the fear mongers in this thread.

 

[Doug B]

I think he is referring to the "We've got the best healthcare system and protocols in the world and the risk to healthcare workers and others is nil".....oops two healthcare workers just got Ebola in Dallas on our first try ...

Not sure why this gets so much run in this thread. It's always been possible for people to screw up protocols.

 

[timschochet]

I think he is referring to the "We've got the best healthcare system and protocols in the world and the risk to healthcare workers and others is nil".....oops two healthcare workers just got Ebola in Dallas on our first try ...

Not sure why this gets so much run in this thread. It's always been possible for people to screw up protocols.

It gets run because its all they have. Without this, it would be even more of a non-story than it is now.

 

[timschochet]

It appears that Ebola is a disease that is tough to get and easily treated, as long as it's caught early and with proper treatment. It will never be an issue in the western world.

I understood the fear in the beginning, now it's just silly.

I think the sample size to suggest just how easily treated this disease is is wwwwaaayyyyyy to small. I am not even sure I would characterize it as 'easily' since it may take blood transfusions and constant care of people in full body HAZMAT suits.

 

[jon_mx]

It appears that Ebola is a disease that is tough to get and easily treated, as long as it's caught early and with proper treatment. It will never be an issue in the western world.

I understood the fear in the beginning, now it's just silly.

I think the sample size to suggest just how easily treated this disease is is wwwwaaayyyyyy to small. I am not even sure I would characterize it as 'easily' since it may take blood transfusions and constant care of people in full body HAZMAT suits.

You're clinging to some way to justify your earlier over-the-top comments. Just admit you were wrong and move on. I'm wrong often around here; I admit it, and change my mind. Why are you so reluctant to do this?

What over the top comment? Our sample size is like 4? People are thinking this diseased is licked based on that? seriously?

You and a few others have behaved like this was a disease that is (a) mortally dangerous, not just to West Africa but to the USA as well. You have called for travel bans from West Africa. You have defended silly, panicky moves, like when the Texas university rejected applicants from the 3 countries involved, or when the principal was made to stay home because he spent a couple nights a few miles away from the Dallas hospital where the first patient was treated. You termed these reasonable in the name of caution. You have consistently predicted that this disease would increase by 10,000 people a week in Africa, using as your source the most extreme range of guesses by the WHO, from over a month ago. You stated at one point that Ebola was "in the rivers."

You have been among the loudest of the fear mongers in this thread.

I did not defend any of those actions.

As for a 10,000 new cases a week, that is still the projections that the WHO is making for late December based on current growth rates.

 

[timschochet]

Anyone know what the cost is to get treatment? I'm guessing it's not covered by insurance. Was just wondering if there have been any reports saying how much the treatment runs.

So far the treatment has only been necessary for doctors and nurses who have heroically volunteered to go to West Africa and try and save lives. Therefore I'm guessing it has been paid for by our government, and rightly so.

With this line of thinking....Quarantines should be mandatory....If we the people are going to pay for their care, they should have to jump threw whatever hoops that will ease we the peoples concerns.

What people's concerns?

 

[Ditka Butkus]

I think he is referring to the "We've got the best healthcare system and protocols in the world and the risk to healthcare workers and others is nil".....oops two healthcare workers just got Ebola in Dallas on our first try ...

Not sure why this gets so much run in this thread. It's always been possible for people to screw up protocols.

I agree and it usually happens as people get complacent in their job.....not usual is that it happened on the very first try.

 

[3C's]

It appears that Ebola is a disease that is tough to get and easily treated, as long as it's caught early and with proper treatment. It will never be an issue in the western world.

I understood the fear in the beginning, now it's just silly.

I think the sample size to suggest just how easily treated this disease is is wwwwaaayyyyyy to small. I am not even sure I would characterize it as 'easily' since it may take blood transfusions and constant care of people in full body HAZMAT suits.

You're clinging to some way to justify your earlier over-the-top comments. Just admit you were wrong and move on. I'm wrong often around here; I admit it, and change my mind. Why are you so reluctant to do this?

What over the top comment? Our sample size is like 4? People are thinking this diseased is licked based on that? seriously?

You and a few others have behaved like this was a disease that is (a) mortally dangerous, not just to West Africa but to the USA as well. You have called for travel bans from West Africa. You have defended silly, panicky moves, like when the Texas university rejected applicants from the 3 countries involved, or when the principal was made to stay home because he spent a couple nights a few miles away from the Dallas hospital where the first patient was treated. You termed these reasonable in the name of caution. You have consistently predicted that this disease would increase by 10,000 people a week in Africa, using as your source the most extreme range of guesses by the WHO, from over a month ago. You stated at one point that Ebola was "in the rivers."

You have been among the loudest of the fear mongers in this thread.

I did not defend any of those actions.

As for a 10,000 new cases a week, that is still the projections that the WHO is making for late December based on current growth rates.

Well lets hope they're wrong. Hopefully the recent ramp-up in efforts helps prevent that.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

I think he is referring to the "We've got the best healthcare system and protocols in the world and the risk to healthcare workers and others is nil".....oops two healthcare workers just got Ebola in Dallas on our first try ...

Not sure why this gets so much run in this thread. It's always been possible for people to screw up protocols.

It gets run because its all they have. Without this, it would be even more of a non-story than it is now.

Who are they?

 

[Doug B]

With this line of thinking....Quarantines should be mandatory....If we the people are going to pay for their care, they should have to jump threw whatever hoops that will ease we the peoples concerns.

IMHO, easing people's concerns does not rise to the level where taking away civil liberties is warranted.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

With this line of thinking....Quarantines should be mandatory....If we the people are going to pay for their care, they should have to jump threw whatever hoops that will ease we the peoples concerns.

IMHO, easing people's concerns does not rise to the level where taking away civil liberties is warranted.

According to individual state laws...I'm not sure civil liberties are being violated.

 

[timschochet]

I think he is referring to the "We've got the best healthcare system and protocols in the world and the risk to healthcare workers and others is nil".....oops two healthcare workers just got Ebola in Dallas on our first try ...

Not sure why this gets so much run in this thread. It's always been possible for people to screw up protocols.

It gets run because its all they have. Without this, it would be even more of a non-story than it is now.

Who are they?

You for one.

 

[Fennis]

oh good, TIm has found this thread

 

[Doug B]

I agree and it usually happens as people get complacent in their job.....not usual is that it happened on the very first try.

Succinctly: the Texas Health Presbyterian staff did not know what they were doing while treating Duncan. They did their very best, but still two out of seventy-some-odd caregivers accidentally caught Ebola anyway.

 

[Scoresman]

is it tasteless to be an ebola victim for halloween?

 

[timschochet]

oh good, TIm has found this thread

I've been here for a while.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

I think he is referring to the "We've got the best healthcare system and protocols in the world and the risk to healthcare workers and others is nil".....oops two healthcare workers just got Ebola in Dallas on our first try ...

Not sure why this gets so much run in this thread. It's always been possible for people to screw up protocols.

It gets run because its all they have. Without this, it would be even more of a non-story than it is now.

Who are they?

You for one.

Well you guy's aren't much to talk about either....Also who in here wants to consider themselves on Tim's team?....I'll take my guys any day....

 

[jon_mx]

It appears that Ebola is a disease that is tough to get and easily treated, as long as it's caught early and with proper treatment. It will never be an issue in the western world.

I understood the fear in the beginning, now it's just silly.

I think the sample size to suggest just how easily treated this disease is is wwwwaaayyyyyy to small. I am not even sure I would characterize it as 'easily' since it may take blood transfusions and constant care of people in full body HAZMAT suits.

You're clinging to some way to justify your earlier over-the-top comments. Just admit you were wrong and move on. I'm wrong often around here; I admit it, and change my mind. Why are you so reluctant to do this?

What over the top comment? Our sample size is like 4? People are thinking this diseased is licked based on that? seriously?

You and a few others have behaved like this was a disease that is (a) mortally dangerous, not just to West Africa but to the USA as well. You have called for travel bans from West Africa. You have defended silly, panicky moves, like when the Texas university rejected applicants from the 3 countries involved, or when the principal was made to stay home because he spent a couple nights a few miles away from the Dallas hospital where the first patient was treated. You termed these reasonable in the name of caution. You have consistently predicted that this disease would increase by 10,000 people a week in Africa, using as your source the most extreme range of guesses by the WHO, from over a month ago. You stated at one point that Ebola was "in the rivers."

You have been among the loudest of the fear mongers in this thread.

I did not defend any of those actions.

As for a 10,000 new cases a week, that is still the projections that the WHO is making for late December based on current growth rates.

Well lets hope they're wrong. Hopefully the recent ramp-up in efforts helps prevent that.

It will help prevent a complete catastropy, but the current effort is probably too little to late to prevent that. But it is a good start and I applaud the effort.

 

[Doug B]

According to individual state laws...I'm not sure civil liberties are being violated.

No state law can obviate the Bill of Rights.

 

[3C's]

I think he is referring to the "We've got the best healthcare system and protocols in the world and the risk to healthcare workers and others is nil".....oops two healthcare workers just got Ebola in Dallas on our first try ...

Not sure why this gets so much run in this thread. It's always been possible for people to screw up protocols.

It gets run because its all they have. Without this, it would be even more of a non-story than it is now.

Who are they?

You for one.

Well you guy's aren't much to talk about either....Also who in here wants to consider themselves on Tim's team?....I'll take my guys any day....

tim transcends both sides.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

I agree and it usually happens as people get complacent in their job.....not usual is that it happened on the very first try.

Succinctly: the Texas Health Presbyterian staff did not know what they were doing while treating Duncan. They did their very best, but still two out of seventy-some-odd caregivers accidentally caught Ebola anyway.

Isn't that kind of the point....The CDC assured us the US healthcare system knew what they were doing...and they failed on try one.

 

[3C's]

It appears that Ebola is a disease that is tough to get and easily treated, as long as it's caught early and with proper treatment. It will never be an issue in the western world.

I understood the fear in the beginning, now it's just silly.

I think the sample size to suggest just how easily treated this disease is is wwwwaaayyyyyy to small. I am not even sure I would characterize it as 'easily' since it may take blood transfusions and constant care of people in full body HAZMAT suits.

You're clinging to some way to justify your earlier over-the-top comments. Just admit you were wrong and move on. I'm wrong often around here; I admit it, and change my mind. Why are you so reluctant to do this?

What over the top comment? Our sample size is like 4? People are thinking this diseased is licked based on that? seriously?

You and a few others have behaved like this was a disease that is (a) mortally dangerous, not just to West Africa but to the USA as well. You have called for travel bans from West Africa. You have defended silly, panicky moves, like when the Texas university rejected applicants from the 3 countries involved, or when the principal was made to stay home because he spent a couple nights a few miles away from the Dallas hospital where the first patient was treated. You termed these reasonable in the name of caution. You have consistently predicted that this disease would increase by 10,000 people a week in Africa, using as your source the most extreme range of guesses by the WHO, from over a month ago. You stated at one point that Ebola was "in the rivers."

You have been among the loudest of the fear mongers in this thread.

I did not defend any of those actions.

As for a 10,000 new cases a week, that is still the projections that the WHO is making for late December based on current growth rates.

Well lets hope they're wrong. Hopefully the recent ramp-up in efforts helps prevent that.

It will help prevent a complete catastropy, but the current effort is probably too little to late to prevent that. But it is a good start and I applaud the effort.

I'm hopeful that they can slow the rate at least. #optimist

 

[Ditka Butkus]

According to individual state laws...I'm not sure civil liberties are being violated.

No state law can obviate the Bill of Rights.

Each state has a different quarantine law, said Steven Gravely, an attorney who helped rewrite Virginia's quarantine law so the state could more easily respond to outbreaks.

 

[jon_mx]

According to individual state laws...I'm not sure civil liberties are being violated.

No state law can obviate the Bill of Rights.

The Supreme Court has found lots of exceptions to the Bill of Rights.

 

[Fennis]

Anyone know what the cost is to get treatment? I'm guessing it's not covered by insurance. Was just wondering if there have been any reports saying how much the treatment runs.

So far the treatment has only been necessary for doctors and nurses who have heroically volunteered to go to West Africa and try and save lives. Therefore I'm guessing it has been paid for by our government, and rightly so.

Why would it be paid by our government? The government had nothing to do with them being there. They were with doctors without borders. I would think that group or individual insurance plans would cover it. Though insurance would probably view it as uncovered risk.

Only 44% of US treated ebola patients were aid workers. 56% were not.

 

[SacramentoBob]

oh good, TIm has found this thread

I've been here for a while.

Oh good, Fennis has found that tim found this thread.

 

[3C's]

According to individual state laws...I'm not sure civil liberties are being violated.

No state law can obviate the Bill of Rights.

Each state has a different quarantine law, said Steven Gravely, an attorney who helped rewrite Virginia's quarantine law so the state could more easily respond to outbreaks.

Supreme Court ruled long ago that states control quarantines. Think it was way back in the 1800s...or maybe after WWI.

 

[cosjobs]

oh good, TIm has found this thread

I've been here for a while.

oh good. Fennis found Tim in this thread.

Anything to water down the Butkus ratio is an improvement in here

eta - effinsac

 

[3C's]

Anyone know what the cost is to get treatment? I'm guessing it's not covered by insurance. Was just wondering if there have been any reports saying how much the treatment runs.

So far the treatment has only been necessary for doctors and nurses who have heroically volunteered to go to West Africa and try and save lives. Therefore I'm guessing it has been paid for by our government, and rightly so.

Why would it be paid by our government? The government had nothing to do with them being there. They were with doctors without borders. I would think that group or individual insurance plans would cover it. Though insurance would probably view it as uncovered risk.

Only 44% of US treated ebola patients were aid workers. 56% were not.

We had the first 2 that were aid workers. One cameraman. Then two nurses who treated Duncan. Now one more aid worker. So the 2 nurses should be covered by their employer or employer plans. Cameraman possibly the same. The 3 aid workers are in a gray area. Whoever covers, don't think any of them would be covered by the govt.

 

[Fennis]

oh good, SacBob and cosjobs are posting the same joke

 

[cosjobs]

oh good, SacBob and cosjobs are posting the same joke

Surprised it didn't take you 72 pages to notice

 

[Doug B]

The CDC assured us the US healthcare system knew what they were doing...and they failed on try one.

I don't remember any guarantees or assurances at all from the CDC regarding Duncans' caregivers' well-being.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

According to individual state laws...I'm not sure civil liberties are being violated.

No state law can obviate the Bill of Rights.

This Ebola thing created a lot of business for doctors and lawyers.

 

[Fennis]

Anyone know what the cost is to get treatment? I'm guessing it's not covered by insurance. Was just wondering if there have been any reports saying how much the treatment runs.

So far the treatment has only been necessary for doctors and nurses who have heroically volunteered to go to West Africa and try and save lives. Therefore I'm guessing it has been paid for by our government, and rightly so.

Why would it be paid by our government? The government had nothing to do with them being there. They were with doctors without borders. I would think that group or individual insurance plans would cover it. Though insurance would probably view it as uncovered risk.

Only 44% of US treated ebola patients were aid workers. 56% were not.

We had the first 2 that were aid workers. One cameraman. Then two nurses who treated Duncan. Now one more aid worker. So the 2 nurses should be covered by their employer or employer plans. Cameraman possibly the same. The 3 aid workers are in a gray area. Whoever covers, don't think any of them would be covered by the govt.

Ebola patients treated in US: 9

Patients Infected in Africa: 7

Patients infected in US: 2

Non health care workers infected in US: 0

Patients released: 7

Patients under treatment: 1

Deceased: 1

Current mortality rate of Americans treated in US: 0%.

Current mortality rate of all treated in US: 11%

Cured: Nina Pham (nurse of Duncan); Amber Vinson (nurse of Duncan); Ashoka Mukpo (cameraman), Unidentified Aid Worker (AKA CIA), Dr. Kent Brantley , Dr. Rick Sacra, Nancy Writebol

Under treatment: Dr. Craig Spencer (the bowling, uber riding, hipster, doctors without border doctor)

Deceased: Thomas Duncan

Brantley, Sacra, Writebol and Spencer were aid workers in Africa.

Treatment paid for by the government were Duncan (no insurance) and CIA dude (government insurance plan)

 

[SacramentoBob]

Thanks for letting that blaring ambulance siren go on and on CNN.

 

[Doug B]

Each state has a different quarantine law, said Steven Gravely, an attorney who helped rewrite Virginia's quarantine law so the state could more easily respond to outbreaks.

Right ... "respond to outbreaks". "Respond" is key here -- isn't it obvious how a state having the ability to quarantine healthy people is problematic?

Quarantining confirmed Ebola cases, obviously, is not at issue.

 

[Fennis]

According to individual state laws...I'm not sure civil liberties are being violated.

No state law can obviate the Bill of Rights.

This Ebola thing created a lot of business for doctors and lawyers.

not to mention both the lame stream media and the non lame stream media

 

[jon_mx]

Each state has a different quarantine law, said Steven Gravely, an attorney who helped rewrite Virginia's quarantine law so the state could more easily respond to outbreaks.

Right ... "respond to outbreaks". "Respond" is key here -- isn't it obvious how a state having the ability to quarantine healthy people is problematic?

Quarantining confirmed Ebola cases, obviously, is not at issue.

The Supreme Court has upheld quarantines in the case of someone exposed to the small pox virus eventhough he did not have it.

 

[3C's]

Anyone know what the cost is to get treatment? I'm guessing it's not covered by insurance. Was just wondering if there have been any reports saying how much the treatment runs.

So far the treatment has only been necessary for doctors and nurses who have heroically volunteered to go to West Africa and try and save lives. Therefore I'm guessing it has been paid for by our government, and rightly so.

Why would it be paid by our government? The government had nothing to do with them being there. They were with doctors without borders. I would think that group or individual insurance plans would cover it. Though insurance would probably view it as uncovered risk.

Only 44% of US treated ebola patients were aid workers. 56% were not.

We had the first 2 that were aid workers. One cameraman. Then two nurses who treated Duncan. Now one more aid worker. So the 2 nurses should be covered by their employer or employer plans. Cameraman possibly the same. The 3 aid workers are in a gray area. Whoever covers, don't think any of them would be covered by the govt.

Ebola patients treated in US: 9

Patients Infected in Africa: 7

Patients infected in US: 2

Non health care workers infected in US: 0

Patients released: 7

Patients under treatment: 1

Deceased: 1

Current mortality rate of Americans treated in US: 0%.

Current mortality rate of all treated in US: 11%

Cured: Nina Pham (nurse of Duncan); Amber Vinson (nurse of Duncan); Ashoka Mukpo (cameraman), Unidentified Aid Worker (AKA CIA), Dr. Kent Brantley , Dr. Rick Sacra, Nancy Writebol

Under treatment: Dr. Craig Spencer (the bowling, uber riding, hipster, doctors without border doctor)

Deceased: Thomas Duncan

Brantley, Sacra, Writebol and Spencer were aid workers in Africa.

Treatment paid for by the government were Duncan (no insurance) and CIA dude (government insurance plan)

Duncan sort of doesn't count since he wasn't a citizen. Also not certain that the govt picks up the tab there. Ever confirmed that unidentified person was a govt employee? To go back to the tim comment, "doctors and nurses who have heroically volunteered to go to West Africa and try and save lives. Therefore I'm guessing it has been paid for by our government"

 

[Fennis]

Anyone know what the cost is to get treatment? I'm guessing it's not covered by insurance. Was just wondering if there have been any reports saying how much the treatment runs.

So far the treatment has only been necessary for doctors and nurses who have heroically volunteered to go to West Africa and try and save lives. Therefore I'm guessing it has been paid for by our government, and rightly so.

Why would it be paid by our government? The government had nothing to do with them being there. They were with doctors without borders. I would think that group or individual insurance plans would cover it. Though insurance would probably view it as uncovered risk.

Only 44% of US treated ebola patients were aid workers. 56% were not.

We had the first 2 that were aid workers. One cameraman. Then two nurses who treated Duncan. Now one more aid worker. So the 2 nurses should be covered by their employer or employer plans. Cameraman possibly the same. The 3 aid workers are in a gray area. Whoever covers, don't think any of them would be covered by the govt.

Ebola patients treated in US: 9

Patients Infected in Africa: 7

Patients infected in US: 2

Non health care workers infected in US: 0

Patients released: 7

Patients under treatment: 1

Deceased: 1

Current mortality rate of Americans treated in US: 0%.

Current mortality rate of all treated in US: 11%

Cured: Nina Pham (nurse of Duncan); Amber Vinson (nurse of Duncan); Ashoka Mukpo (cameraman), Unidentified Aid Worker (AKA CIA), Dr. Kent Brantley , Dr. Rick Sacra, Nancy Writebol

Under treatment: Dr. Craig Spencer (the bowling, uber riding, hipster, doctors without border doctor)

Deceased: Thomas Duncan

Brantley, Sacra, Writebol and Spencer were aid workers in Africa.

Treatment paid for by the government were Duncan (no insurance) and CIA dude (government insurance plan)

Duncan sort of doesn't count since he wasn't a citizen. Also not certain that the govt picks up the tab there. Ever confirmed that unidentified person was a govt employee? To go back to the tim comment, "doctors and nurses who have heroically volunteered to go to West Africa and try and save lives. Therefore I'm guessing it has been paid for by our government"

You might be right about Duncan, maybe the hospital pays for uninsured treatments?

The unidentified person has slipped back in to the darkness of the night. I need infowars to help me out on that dude. ETA:

 

[3C's]

I think that's the case. Care providers eat the cost (but pass it on) when they treat the uninsured. alex jones surely has the answers on the mystery man.

 

[3C's]

I think that's the case. Care providers eat the cost (but pass it on) when they treat the uninsured. alex jones surely has the answers on the mystery man.

Well that's no fun. CNBC says: The Atlanta patient is a World Health Organization doctor who had contracted the often-deadly disease in Africa. He arrived at Emory University Hospital on Sept. 9.

Sounds like a coverup.

 

[Fennis]

I think that's the case. Care providers eat the cost (but pass it on) when they treat the uninsured. alex jones surely has the answers on the mystery man.

Well that's no fun. CNBC says: The Atlanta patient is a World Health Organization doctor who had contracted the often-deadly disease in Africa. He arrived at Emory University Hospital on Sept. 9.

Sounds like a coverup.

That's what they want you to think.

 

[3C's]

I think that's the case. Care providers eat the cost (but pass it on) when they treat the uninsured. alex jones surely has the answers on the mystery man.

Well that's no fun. CNBC says: The Atlanta patient is a World Health Organization doctor who had contracted the often-deadly disease in Africa. He arrived at Emory University Hospital on Sept. 9.

Sounds like a coverup.

That's what they want you to think.

I fear for my life now. They know we're on to them.

 

[Doug B]

The Supreme Court has upheld quarantines in the case of someone exposed to the small pox virus eventhough he did not have it.

If you're talking about Jacobson vs. Massachusetts (1905), Jacobson was not fighting quarantine -- he was fighting involuntary vaccination.

That said, this lawyer, writing for the Washington Post, agrees with you, but with some equivocation IMHO. He references Siegel v. Shinnick (1963), which does involve quarantine and might be the case you're thinking of, but it didn't go to the Supreme Court.