Ebola (1 Viewer)

[joffer]

Here is what I don't understand....If ebola doesn't live outside of the body for very long....I think I saw in a controlled environment 6 days....Why do they send the Hazmat guys to disinfect the homes/apartments? (why risk exposure) Why don't they just seal them up for a week and they should be good to go... I'll answer my own question...Because the CDC doesn't really doesn't understand the disease or how to handle it.

Guessing here...but maybe they want to clean it up immediately and avoid the slight possibility that someone breaks in and starts spreading it.

DB's pure unsupported speculation is more fun.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

Here is what I don't understand....If ebola doesn't live outside of the body for very long....I think I saw in a controlled environment 6 days....Why do they send the Hazmat guys to disinfect the homes/apartments? (why risk exposure) Why don't they just seal them up for a week and they should be good to go... I'll answer my own question...Because the CDC doesn't really doesn't understand the disease or how to handle it.

Guessing here...but maybe they want to clean it up immediately and avoid the slight possibility that someone breaks in and starts spreading it.

You really think someone is going to break into an apartment that is placard and sealed up with "Quarantine Ebola" on the door? If your logic held true they wouldn't leave the occupants who are quarantined in their own apartments/houses in fear that someone may break in and rape them.

 

[3C's]

Darn Canadians! http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/canadian-made-ebola-vaccine-begins-human-clinical-trials/37794/

 

[Fennis]

Darn Canadians! http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/canadian-made-ebola-vaccine-begins-human-clinical-trials/37794/

amazing video of the process

 

[timschochet]

What good does freaking out about this do? I mean, if it is going to explode into a pandemic, there pretty much is nothing us regular joes can do about it anyway. Chill folks.

Yeah this is exactly how I feel. As a society, we have spent a lot of money trying to prevent pandemics from happening. Hopefully that money was well spent, and our experts will handle this situation before it gets serious. I'm pretty confident that they will. But if they don't, we're all screwed anyhow. So why panic?

 

[Random]

Here is what I don't understand....If ebola doesn't live outside of the body for very long....I think I saw in a controlled environment 6 days....Why do they send the Hazmat guys to disinfect the homes/apartments? (why risk exposure) Why don't they just seal them up for a week and they should be good to go... I'll answer my own question...Because the CDC doesn't really doesn't understand the disease or how to handle it.

Guessing here...but maybe they want to clean it up immediately and avoid the slight possibility that someone breaks in and starts spreading it.

You really think someone is going to break into an apartment that is placard and sealed up with "Quarantine Ebola" on the door? If your logic held true they wouldn't leave the occupants who are quarantined in their own apartments/houses in fear that someone may break in and rape them.

I can imagine there is someone out there that would like to get a hold of the virus.

 

[Doug B]

Darn Canadians! http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/canadian-made-ebola-vaccine-begins-human-clinical-trials/37794/

Hey! This is good news and deserves to be spelled out in a post:

The Canadian vaccine — which many scientists consider the more promising of the two — was developed by researchers at the Public Health Agency of Canada’s National Microbiology Laboratory. Ambrose said it has been “100-per-cent effective” in preventing the spread of the Ebola virus when tested on animals.

 

[shader]

Next 60 days are critical:

http://news.sky.com/story/1352857/sixty-days-to-beat-ebola-united-nations-warns

 

[Fennis]

Darn Canadians! http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/canadian-made-ebola-vaccine-begins-human-clinical-trials/37794/

Hey! This is good news and deserves to be spelled out in a post:

The Canadian vaccine — which many scientists consider the more promising of the two — was developed by researchers at the Public Health Agency of Canada’s National Microbiology Laboratory. Ambrose said it has been “100-per-cent effective” in preventing the spread of the Ebola virus when tested on animals.

great, whose job is it to vaccinate all the bats?

 

[Widbil83]

Next 60 days are critical:

http://news.sky.com/story/1352857/sixty-days-to-beat-ebola-united-nations-warns

Ok this is spooky.

 

[Parrothead]

Next 60 days are critical:

http://news.sky.com/story/1352857/sixty-days-to-beat-ebola-united-nations-warns

The WHOs in WHOville need to relax.. we got this

 

[SpurrierisisGod]

Awesome. Lady with "Ebola like" symptoms in Mobile, alabama. I'm sure we have this handled. She had family members recently visit africa. That's all the news blurb said. I'm sure everyone with a fever is freaking out, but pretty sure Mobile isn't ready for it if it happens to be ebola.

 

[HellToupee]

Tough guy Chris Brown weighs in on Ebola

Chris Brown has said he thinks the ebola virus is a "form of population control".

The singer published his thoughts on Twitter about the epidemic, which has killed more than 4,000 people, the majority of them in West Africa.

He wrote: "I don't know ... But I think this Ebola epidemic is a form of population control. S*** is getting crazy bruh."

 

[shader]

Awesome. Lady with "Ebola like" symptoms in Mobile, alabama. I'm sure we have this handled. She had family members recently visit africa. That's all the news blurb said. I'm sure everyone with a fever is freaking out, but pretty sure Mobile isn't ready for it if it happens to be ebola.

Again...ebola isn't a current worry in the US. It's a worry in Africa. All these ebola false stories popping up are taking away from the real issue, which is Africa. As the UN said today, in 60 days this thing could get to a level in which "there is no plan" if it's not stopped soon.

 

[joffer]

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Ferris pass out from Ebola at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

 

[SpurrierisisGod]

I'd link if I could figure it out but news just updated that the Dr thinks it's "an extremely low probability that it's ebola". Cited a slight language barrier which may have caused a miscommunication and blamed the national attention ebola is getting.

 

[Sinn Fein]

I'd link if I could figure it out but news just updated that the Dr thinks it's "an extremely low probability that it's ebola". Cited a slight language barrier which may have caused a miscommunication and blamed the national attention ebola is getting.

I am shocked

 

[Henry Ford]

I think you go in with hazmat team and bleach the bathrooms and collect bedding to be burned and lock that sucker up for 2 weeks with the heater set to 85.

Not sure putting the heater on 85 would be the smart move. Probably better to put the AC on 40.

I believe ebola survives better outside the body in colder temps.

Really? Seems odd since the outbreak is happening in the hottest part of the planet.

"A drop of blood can remain contagious outside the body. And virus particles can survive for days or weeks, depending on the environment. Ultraviolet light, heat and exposure to oxygen gradually deactivate the virus, while cooler temperatures and humidity help keep it active." NPR

The outbreak is in Africa because they're the only ones dumb enough to eat the virus' primary host (fruit bats).

So if this thing hits a colder climate, will it spread much quicker?

During flu season? I would imagine.NYC or Chicago in February would be a nightmare.

 

[Henry Ford]

Darn Canadians! http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/canadian-made-ebola-vaccine-begins-human-clinical-trials/37794/

If only they didn't have socialized medicine they'd have much more innovation

 

[scottybo]

Awesome. Lady with "Ebola like" symptoms in Mobile, alabama. I'm sure we have this handled. She had family members recently visit africa. That's all the news blurb said. I'm sure everyone with a fever is freaking out, but pretty sure Mobile isn't ready for it if it happens to be ebola.

This is being blown out of proportion by the local media. Live cut-ins for 20-30 mins at a time just talking about someone who "could" have ebola. Oh and showing the ambulance rolling up to the hospital 28 times during the live report is overkill. Not to mention "one ambulance just left with its lights off"...normal protocol after unloading a patient right?

 

[LarryAllen'sJockstrap]

Tough guy Chris Brown weighs in on Ebola

Chris Brown has said he thinks the ebola virus is a "form of population control".

The singer published his thoughts on Twitter about the epidemic, which has killed more than 4,000 people, the majority of them in West Africa.

He wrote: "I don't know ... But I think this Ebola epidemic is a form of population control. S*** is getting crazy bruh."

He should have his probation revoked if he really posted this. The panic and media coverage may be overblown, but people are dying, and regardless of where or when, that's sad. Every one of those infected has a family and life that shouldn't be trivialized by some wannabe gangsta rapper who doesn't deserve the life that's been handed to him on a silver platter. There are few less likeable people on earth, but as long as people buy his music...

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

This Ebola stuff confirms all the political views I already hold.

 

[shader]

Awesome. Lady with "Ebola like" symptoms in Mobile, alabama. I'm sure we have this handled. She had family members recently visit africa. That's all the news blurb said. I'm sure everyone with a fever is freaking out, but pretty sure Mobile isn't ready for it if it happens to be ebola.

This is being blown out of proportion by the local media. Live cut-ins for 20-30 mins at a time just talking about someone who "could" have ebola. Oh and showing the ambulance rolling up to the hospital 28 times during the live report is overkill. Not to mention "one ambulance just left with its lights off"...normal protocol after unloading a patient right?

All about the ratings baby

 

[Mr. Retukes]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/14/health/ebola-nbc-snyderman-apology/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

DOCTOR Nancy Snyderman.. she should know better.. what a dope

Now say it with Tommy Lee Jones' voice.

 

[Tom Skerritt]

Another healthcare worker tests positive

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Please stay calm and do not overreact.

Hillary is the Obama 3rd term? No, Ebola is the Obama 3rd term.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Next 60 days are critical:

http://news.sky.com/story/1352857/sixty-days-to-beat-ebola-united-nations-warns

The article uses October 1st as the start of the 60 days so actually we are down to 45 days.

 

[msommer]

Nigeria and Senegal's got it. To be declared Ebola free in the coming days...

 

[Bojang0301]

This administration, much like everything else that has happened since the begining of the W era, has grossly underestimated the risk here.

 

[GroveDiesel]

What good does freaking out about this do? I mean, if it is going to explode into a pandemic, there pretty much is nothing us regular joes can do about it anyway. Chill folks.

Yeah this is exactly how I feel. As a society, we have spent a lot of money trying to prevent pandemics from happening. Hopefully that money was well spent, and our experts will handle this situation before it gets serious. I'm pretty confident that they will. But if they don't, we're all screwed anyhow. So why panic?

I don't think most people in here are panicking, they're simply concerned that the professionals that you trust so much are dropping the ball and not taking it seriously enough. And since the CDC has already admitted that they screwed up several timed already, I think that concern seems valid.

 

[ghostguy123]

If everyone panics then everyone is dead.

However, EVERYONE should be incredibly concerned. Mainly because 95% of our county doesnt know jack #### about ebola.

If a few more cases pop up, and especially if they are in different areas other than Dallas, get ready for the strong possibility of pretty much a nationwide shut down.

Also, we have no idea how bad this really is right now. The LAST thing the CDC would do is tell everyone if it was really bad and to not leave the area. That would inevitably lead to tons of people...........leaving the area. But if cases pop up somewhere far away from Dallas, well, they might not have a choice at that point.

 

[Sinn Fein]

If everyone panics then everyone is dead.

However, EVERYONE should be incredibly concerned. Mainly because 95% of our county doesnt know jack #### about ebola.

If a few more cases pop up, and especially if they are in different areas other than Dallas, get ready for the strong possibility of pretty much a nationwide shut down.

Also, we have no idea how bad this really is right now. The LAST thing the CDC would do is tell everyone if it was really bad and to not leave the area. That would inevitably lead to tons of people...........leaving the area. But if cases pop up somewhere far away from Dallas, well, they might not have a choice at that point.

I'd say its much closer to 100% - and that is more worrying because you have a lot of people who think they know about ebola who do more harm than good.

 

[ghostguy123]

If everyone panics then everyone is dead.

However, EVERYONE should be incredibly concerned. Mainly because 95% of our county doesnt know jack #### about ebola.

If a few more cases pop up, and especially if they are in different areas other than Dallas, get ready for the strong possibility of pretty much a nationwide shut down.

Also, we have no idea how bad this really is right now. The LAST thing the CDC would do is tell everyone if it was really bad and to not leave the area. That would inevitably lead to tons of people...........leaving the area. But if cases pop up somewhere far away from Dallas, well, they might not have a choice at that point.

I'd say its much closer to 100% - and that is more worrying because you have a lot of people who think they know about ebola who do more harm than good.

Yeah you might be right closer to 100%. Maybe 95% of HEALTHCARE workers dont know enough about Ebola, and 99.9999% of everyone else doesnt know much about it.

 

[(HULK)]

I found out yesterday that if anyone with Ebola enters the US via Dulles Airport, they'll be sent to my workplace.

I'm a bit concerned. I need to formulate a plan if this thing goes sideways. I do know we don't understand it as much as we claim to, otherwise healthcare workers wouldn't be getting it repeatedly.

 

[ghostguy123]

This one sucks. It's hard even in hospitals. It lives outside the body for a long time (they say about 4 days but depending on conditions could be longer), and people dont show symptoms for up to three weeks at times, and could be longer (usually 8-12 days or so I believe, or so I read).

If there ever was an actuall SPREAD, we (no joke) are looking at a pretty major shutdown of transportation, large gatherings, public transportation, and tons of workplaces/schools would be closed indefinitely.

And don't tell me I am just overreacting. That IS what would happen if this spreads around a bit.

At this point, they should be educating as many people as possible what do to if that were to happen.................in fact, they should ALWAYS be doing that so when #### like this happens people are slightly more informed what to do (and what not to do).

 

[Bojang0301]

This one sucks. It's hard even in hospitals. It lives outside the body for a long time (they say about 4 days but depending on conditions could be longer), and people dont show symptoms for up to three weeks at times, and could be longer (usually 8-12 days or so I believe, or so I read).

If there ever was an actuall SPREAD, we (no joke) are looking at a pretty major shutdown of transportation, large gatherings, public transportation, and tons of workplaces/schools would be closed indefinitely.

And don't tell me I am just overreacting. That IS what would happen if this spreads around a bit.

At this point, they should be educating as many people as possible what do to if that were to happen.................in fact, they should ALWAYS be doing that so when #### like this happens people are slightly more informed what to do (and what not to do).

Asking government to have proper foresight is like asking government to have proper hindsight.

 

[T Bell]

Tough guy Chris Brown weighs in on Ebola

Chris Brown has said he thinks the ebola virus is a "form of population control".

The singer published his thoughts on Twitter about the epidemic, which has killed more than 4,000 people, the majority of them in West Africa.

He wrote: "I don't know ... But I think this Ebola epidemic is a form of population control. S*** is getting crazy bruh."

He should have his probation revoked if he really posted this. The panic and media coverage may be overblown, but people are dying, and regardless of where or when, that's sad. Every one of those infected has a family and life that shouldn't be trivialized by some wannabe gangsta rapper who doesn't deserve the life that's been handed to him on a silver platter. There are few less likeable people on earth, but as long as people buy his music...

I think Chris Brown is a complete scumbag but why exactly would he have his probation revoked for a Tweet about Ebola?

 

[lod01]

This one sucks. It's hard even in hospitals. It lives outside the body for a long time (they say about 4 days but depending on conditions could be longer), and people dont show symptoms for up to three weeks at times, and could be longer (usually 8-12 days or so I believe, or so I read).

If there ever was an actuall SPREAD, we (no joke) are looking at a pretty major shutdown of transportation, large gatherings, public transportation, and tons of workplaces/schools would be closed indefinitely.

And don't tell me I am just overreacting. That IS what would happen if this spreads around a bit.

At this point, they should be educating as many people as possible what do to if that were to happen.................in fact, they should ALWAYS be doing that so when #### like this happens people are slightly more informed what to do (and what not to do).

The US can spread this way faster than any African nation could even imagine.

A true airborne virus of Ebola's level would wipe us right out before it could be stopped.

 

[Sinn Fein]

With the second healthcare worker in Dallas infected, if you want to find a culprit - look to the chain of communication from the CDC to healthcare officials.

The second time

The latest infection marks the second-ever transmission of Ebola in the United States. Both stemmed from Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital.

Late last week, nurse Nina Pham tested positive for Ebola. She also took care of Duncan, the first person to be diagnosed with Ebola in the United States. Duncan died last week.

On Tuesday, Pham said she was doing well.

"I am blessed by the support of family and friends, and am blessed to be cared for by the best team of doctors and nurses in the world," she said.

Troubling allegations

Also Tuesday, National Nurses United made troubling allegations about the hospital, claiming "guidelines were constantly changing" and "there were no protocols" about how to deal with the deadly virus."

"The protocols that should have been in place in Dallas were not in place, and that those protocols are not in place anywhere in the United States as far as we can tell," NNU Executive Director RoseAnn DeMoro said. "We're deeply alarmed."

The breakdown here is not with informing the general public - which is out of control with enough misinformation. But clearly there has to be a better protocol in place for the CDC to effectively communicate to the medical professionals, and that communication is sent down the chain - so that every hospital has trained its staff on the basic protocols for treating infectious diseases like ebola.

It sounds like what we have here is a failure to communicate.

There simply is no excuse for every hospital not to have this information, and have actively trained its personnel on proper procedures from intake questions, to how and where patients are screened/treated.

This is where the medical community has to have a come to jesus moment internally. Its not enough for the CDC to issue its warnings, without the necessary follow-up from major medical centers, to local walk-in clinics.

 

[The Commish]

I found out yesterday that if anyone with Ebola enters the US via Dulles Airport, they'll be sent to my workplace.

I'm a bit concerned. I need to formulate a plan if this thing goes sideways. I do know we don't understand it as much as we claim to, otherwise healthcare workers wouldn't be getting it repeatedly.

This thread has no place for logical positions....it's either "the world is coming to an end" or "it's no big deal you idiots"....pick a side.

 

[Henry Ford]

I found out yesterday that if anyone with Ebola enters the US via Dulles Airport, they'll be sent to my workplace.

I'm a bit concerned. I need to formulate a plan if this thing goes sideways. I do know we don't understand it as much as we claim to, otherwise healthcare workers wouldn't be getting it repeatedly.

Recommended plan if this thing goes sideways.

 

[T Bell]

With the second healthcare worker in Dallas infected, if you want to find a culprit - look to the chain of communication from the CDC to healthcare officials.

The second time

The latest infection marks the second-ever transmission of Ebola in the United States. Both stemmed from Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital.

Late last week, nurse Nina Pham tested positive for Ebola. She also took care of Duncan, the first person to be diagnosed with Ebola in the United States. Duncan died last week.

On Tuesday, Pham said she was doing well.

"I am blessed by the support of family and friends, and am blessed to be cared for by the best team of doctors and nurses in the world," she said.

Troubling allegations

Also Tuesday, National Nurses United made troubling allegations about the hospital, claiming "guidelines were constantly changing" and "there were no protocols" about how to deal with the deadly virus."

"The protocols that should have been in place in Dallas were not in place, and that those protocols are not in place anywhere in the United States as far as we can tell," NNU Executive Director RoseAnn DeMoro said. "We're deeply alarmed."

The breakdown here is not with informing the general public - which is out of control with enough misinformation. But clearly there has to be a better protocol in place for the CDC to effectively communicate to the medical professionals, and that communication is sent down the chain - so that every hospital has trained its staff on the basic protocols for treating infectious diseases like ebola.

It sounds like what we have here is a failure to communicate.

There simply is no excuse for every hospital not to have this information, and have actively trained its personnel on proper procedures from intake questions, to how and where patients are screened/treated.

This is where the medical community has to have a come to jesus moment internally. Its not enough for the CDC to issue its warnings, without the necessary follow-up from major medical centers, to local walk-in clinics.

We need to nuke it from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.

 

[T Bell]

A couple of days late but still awesome.

 

[TheIronSheik]

So one person with Ebola in the US and it's already turned in to 2 new cases. I'm no numbersmith but if those numbers continue, I believe the number gets pretty high pretty quick.

 

[Parrothead]

don't worry, we got this

 

[pollardsvision]

So one person with Ebola in the US and it's already turned in to 2 new cases. I'm no numbersmith but if those numbers continue, I believe the number gets pretty high pretty quick.

There's nothing to worry about. The only way to contract this disease is to eat the corpse of Fruit Bat Zero and wash it down with at least 2 ounces of a strain stored in the vaults of the CDC.

 

[Harry Manback]

So one person with Ebola in the US and it's already turned in to 2 new cases. I'm no numbersmith but if those numbers continue, I believe the number gets pretty high pretty quick.

There's nothing to worry about. The only way to contract this disease is to eat the corpse of Fruit Bat Zero and wash it down with at least 2 ounces of a strain stored in the vaults of the CDC.

Or to improperly take your gloves off that have touched sweat/feces/blood from a patient you are in direct contact with then bite your nail/rub your eyes.

 

[Harry Manback]

When a non-relative/non-healthcare worker contracts this int he US, come find me. Then I'll be concerned.

Otherwise, I'll stay away from sweaty, vomiting, sick people and not be worried.

 

[matuski]

So one person with Ebola in the US and it's already turned in to 2 new cases. I'm no numbersmith but if those numbers continue, I believe the number gets pretty high pretty quick.

There's nothing to worry about. The only way to contract this disease is to eat the corpse of Fruit Bat Zero and wash it down with at least 2 ounces of a strain stored in the vaults of the CDC.

Or to improperly take your gloves off that have touched sweat/feces/blood from a patient you are in direct contact with then bite your nail/rub your eyes.

Or toss salad.

 

[culdeus]

This one sucks. It's hard even in hospitals. It lives outside the body for a long time (they say about 4 days but depending on conditions could be longer), and people dont show symptoms for up to three weeks at times, and could be longer (usually 8-12 days or so I believe, or so I read).

If there ever was an actuall SPREAD, we (no joke) are looking at a pretty major shutdown of transportation, large gatherings, public transportation, and tons of workplaces/schools would be closed indefinitely.

And don't tell me I am just overreacting. That IS what would happen if this spreads around a bit.

At this point, they should be educating as many people as possible what do to if that were to happen.................in fact, they should ALWAYS be doing that so when #### like this happens people are slightly more informed what to do (and what not to do).

The US can spread this way faster than any African nation could even imagine.

A true airborne virus of Ebola's level would wipe us right out before it could be stopped.

India is probably 1.1 of worst places to drop an airborne event. US might not be drafted till the 2nd round.