Ebola (3 Viewers)

[Bucky86]

LMAO

 

[SacramentoBob]

dammit.

on the subway taking the kid to school this morning, I'd swear every single person on the packed train was from west africa, sweating, spitting and puking profusely. Imma start wrapping floppinho up in the duct tape I have left over from when we almost got wiped out by anthrax.

Japan gets the last laugh.

http://goo.gl/c0OAPM

 

[matuski]

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/pdf/ppe-poster.pdf

here is everything you need to know.

It's the taking off of the protective equipment that is the hard part. At Level 4 labs, you get decontaminated. In hospitals you don't. I truly think that is where the problem lies.

I was reading about training they can do to teach you how to take off gloves, masks, etc. You cover yourself with shaving cream, then try to take off the equipment without getting shaving cream on you. Probably isn't as easy as you would think it might be.

It becomes so easy you do it without thinking about it after a week.

 

[Bucky86]

Another Obama speech??? Why haven't we seen our president personally giving instructions on how to safely treat Ebola patients?

 

[urbanhack]

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014/10/02/352983774/no-seriously-how-contagious-is-ebola

 

[SacramentoBob]

Do these nurses have access to the Internet? Maybe its just me, but I would give the ole CDC website a look see if I was caring for someone with mother####ing Ebola. Instead of relying on marge, the floor nurse, from bum#### west Texas for my infectious deasease protocol.. Call me crazy.

Yeah, the CDC I would trust them.

Didn't the CDC blame the nurse for contracting Ebola?

This is the same CDC that was accidentally shipping infectious diseases all over the place, right?

 

[joffer]

Is this going to end up being cured by Steven Seagal cooking wildflower tea?

 

[joffer]

I'd put a doctor refusing to treat an Ebola patient right there with a fireman refusing to go into a burning building

Comfortably in #####-ville

 

[matuski]

I'd put a doctor refusing to treat an Ebola patient right there with a fireman refusing to go into a burning building

Comfortably in #####-ville

Depends on the type of procedure imo.

ETA A front line (ie Family Practice, etc) doc needs to examine the patient, and would be a coward to not do so... a Cardiac surgeon would be an idiot to perform surgery on someone infected with ebola.

 

[shadyridr]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

I'd put a doctor refusing to treat an Ebola patient right there with a fireman refusing to go into a burning building

Comfortably in #####-ville

Yeah, well I am sure that when he/she leaves work to their million dollar home they could give 2 ####s.

Comparing a burning building, and ebola is silly. I run into a burning building I could die. I could live with that. I help a patient with Ebola, I don't know if I am infected. I go home kiss my kids, my wife and infect them. I can't live with that, so yeah I can live with someone looking at me strange or accusing me of being weak, as I sit back and enjoy my family.

 

[joffer]

I'd put a doctor refusing to treat an Ebola patient right there with a fireman refusing to go into a burning building

Comfortably in #####-ville

Yeah, well I am sure that when he/she leaves work to their million dollar home they could give 2 ####s. Comparing a burning building, and ebola is silly. I run into a burning building I could die. I could live with that. I help a patient with Ebola, I don't know if I am infected. I go home kiss my kids, my wife and infect them. I can't live with that, so yeah I can live with someone looking at me strange or accusing me of being weak, as I sit back and enjoy my family.

And you're the mayor

 

[matuski]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

A lot of unfounded speculation here.

The answer is you don't know, they don't know. Obviously she did not follow what I consider common sense steps to prevent exposure. She was exposed and therefore did something or did not do something allowing it to happen.

 

[Bucky86]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

I'm pretty sure the answer is yes...

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

I'd put a doctor refusing to treat an Ebola patient right there with a fireman refusing to go into a burning building

Comfortably in #####-ville

Yeah, well I am sure that when he/she leaves work to their million dollar home they could give 2 ####s. Comparing a burning building, and ebola is silly. I run into a burning building I could die. I could live with that. I help a patient with Ebola, I don't know if I am infected. I go home kiss my kids, my wife and infect them. I can't live with that, so yeah I can live with someone looking at me strange or accusing me of being weak, as I sit back and enjoy my family.

And you're the mayor

Mayor McCheese http://synthesisweekly.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/hamburger.jpg

 

[fantasycurse42]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

I'm pretty sure the answer is yes...

Thanks, Doctor Bucky86

 

[shader]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

I'm pretty sure the answer is yes...

The first infected nurse was considered low risk

 

[shadyridr]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

I'm pretty sure the answer is yes...

you know this for a fact? The nurse in spain got ebola from touching her forehead. All it takes is saliva.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Do these nurses have access to the Internet? Maybe its just me, but I would give the ole CDC website a look see if I was caring for someone with mother####ing Ebola. Instead of relying on marge, the floor nurse, from bum#### west Texas for my infectious deasease protocol.. Call me crazy.

Yeah, the CDC I would trust them.

Didn't the CDC blame the nurse for contracting Ebola?

si you trust some charge nurse or administrator from the hospital over the CDC or WHO or some such organization? who, you know, has actually dealt with ebola.

 

[Bucky86]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

I'm pretty sure the answer is yes...

you know this for a fact? The nurse in spain got ebola from touching her forehead. All it takes is saliva.

Well, yeah...but what did she get on her gear, and then touch, before touching her forehead? I'd assume it was blood, vomit, sweat, urine, or feces.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

So this nurse used PPE, gown, gloves, and face/head gear. Still got ####### ebola. So, if a trained person can get ebola, how in the world are people who don't deal with using PPE not going to get infected.

I thought Ebola up to now was very hard to contract from an infected person if you didn't share needles, semen, blood, or other bodily fluids.

IT'S COMING FROM THE VENTS.

seriously, has no one seen the movie?

 

[joffer]

So this nurse used PPE, gown, gloves, and face/head gear. Still got ####### ebola. So, if a trained person can get ebola, how in the world are people who don't deal with using PPE not going to get infected.

I thought Ebola up to now was very hard to contract from an infected person if you didn't share needles, semen, blood, or other bodily fluids.

IT'S COMING FROM THE VENTS.

seriously, has no one seen the movie?

Everyone has seen it. That's the problem

 

[shadyridr]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

I'm pretty sure the answer is yes...

you know this for a fact? The nurse in spain got ebola from touching her forehead. All it takes is saliva.

Well, yeah...but what did she get on her gear, and then touch, before touching her forehead? I'd assume it was blood, vomit, sweat, urine, or feces.

ok but she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so were safe. Guess she didnt sweat or spit either.

 

[fantasycurse42]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

I'm pretty sure the answer is yes...

you know this for a fact? The nurse in spain got ebola from touching her forehead. All it takes is saliva.

Well, yeah...but what did she get on her gear, and then touch, before touching her forehead? I'd assume it was blood, vomit, sweat, urine, or feces.

ok but she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so were safe. Guess she didnt sweat or spit either.

Or sneeze.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

So this nurse used PPE, gown, gloves, and face/head gear. Still got ####### ebola. So, if a trained person can get ebola, how in the world are people who don't deal with using PPE not going to get infected.

I thought Ebola up to now was very hard to contract from an infected person if you didn't share needles, semen, blood, or other bodily fluids.

IT'S COMING FROM THE VENTS.

seriously, has no one seen the movie?

Everyone has seen it. That's the problem

apparently not the nurses. including the one in spain

 

[Bucky86]

It's funny when the Ham's of this world completely ignore FACT's. A virus has never been observed changing it's mode of transmission.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

I'm pretty sure the answer is yes...

you know this for a fact? The nurse in spain got ebola from touching her forehead. All it takes is saliva.

Well, yeah...but what did she get on her gear, and then touch, before touching her forehead? I'd assume it was blood, vomit, sweat, urine, or feces.

ok but she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so were safe. Guess she didnt sweat or spit either.

Or sneeze.

Fart?

 

[Parrothead]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

I'm pretty sure the answer is yes...

you know this for a fact? The nurse in spain got ebola from touching her forehead. All it takes is saliva.

Well, yeah...but what did she get on her gear, and then touch, before touching her forehead? I'd assume it was blood, vomit, sweat, urine, or feces.

ok but she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so were safe. Guess she didnt sweat or spit either.

did she drink anything? saliva on that cup gets on a flight attendant who rubs his/her eyes.. BOOM

 

[Bucky86]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

I'm pretty sure the answer is yes...

you know this for a fact? The nurse in spain got ebola from touching her forehead. All it takes is saliva.

Well, yeah...but what did she get on her gear, and then touch, before touching her forehead? I'd assume it was blood, vomit, sweat, urine, or feces.

ok but she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so were safe. Guess she didnt sweat or spit either.

Or sneeze.

Fart?

Did you sniff her underwear?

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

I'm pretty sure the answer is yes...

you know this for a fact? The nurse in spain got ebola from touching her forehead. All it takes is saliva.

Well, yeah...but what did she get on her gear, and then touch, before touching her forehead? I'd assume it was blood, vomit, sweat, urine, or feces.

ok but she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so were safe. Guess she didnt sweat or spit either.

Or sneeze.

Fart?

Did you sniff her underwear?

Lick?

 

[Bucky86]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

I'm pretty sure the answer is yes...

you know this for a fact? The nurse in spain got ebola from touching her forehead. All it takes is saliva.

Well, yeah...but what did she get on her gear, and then touch, before touching her forehead? I'd assume it was blood, vomit, sweat, urine, or feces.

ok but she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so were safe. Guess she didnt sweat or spit either.

Or sneeze.

Fart?

Did you sniff her underwear?

Lick?

RIP

 

[fantasycurse42]

It's funny how people downplay #### and it's so impossible to spread yada yada yada

First we had one case with 25 or so people being watched or quarantined. Now we have 3 cases, and a lot more people will be quarantined. I'd be betting that there will be more than 3 by months end.

 

[SacramentoBob]

In the grand scheme of things, 3 cases isn't that big a deal.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

I'm pretty sure the answer is yes...

you know this for a fact? The nurse in spain got ebola from touching her forehead. All it takes is saliva.

Well, yeah...but what did she get on her gear, and then touch, before touching her forehead? I'd assume it was blood, vomit, sweat, urine, or feces.

ok but she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so were safe. Guess she didnt sweat or spit either.

Or sneeze.

Fart?

Did you sniff her underwear?

Lick?

RIP

Don't touch his glorious penis while in the coffin ladies, he is still infectious. Yes, yes he is ladies.

 

[ghostguy123]

When a non-relative/non-healthcare worker contracts this int he US, come find me. Then I'll be concerned.

Otherwise, I'll stay away from sweaty, vomiting, sick people and not be worried.

Well you also need to not touch anything those vomiting sick people have touched in the past four days. Good luck with that.

 

[ghostguy123]

Serious question. How many cases do you think there would need to be where we just stop treating people and just, ya know, get rid of them?

I am thinking it could happen before it hits 20.

 

[joffer]

It's funny how people downplay #### and it's so impossible to spread yada yada yada

First we had one case with 25 or so people being watched or quarantined. Now we have 3 cases, and a lot more people will be quarantined. I'd be betting that there will be more than 3 by months end.

Who's saying it's impossible to spread? Measles, mumps are far more contagious and kill hundreds of people, infants, every year because wing nuts won't vaccinate. Dont see that as the lead on CNN 24-7

 

[Slapdash]

We should probably fire the surgeon general over this, no?

There is no surgeon general to fire, thanks to the Republicans in the Senate.

Is this shtick or true?

 

[joffer]

We should probably fire the surgeon general over this, no?

There is no surgeon general to fire, thanks to the Republicans in the Senate.

Is this shtick or true?

confirmation blocked. Had the audacity to say that gun violence was a public health risk

 

[SacramentoBob]

We should probably fire the surgeon general over this, no?

There is no surgeon general to fire, thanks to the Republicans in the Senate.

Is this shtick or true?

confirmation blocked. Had the audacity to say that gun violence was a public health risk

Maybe he should stick to medicine.

 

[UniAlias]

Serious question. How many cases do you think there would need to be where we just stop treating people and just, ya know, get rid of them?

I am thinking it could happen before it hits 20.

Good thing you'll be safe and secure in the underground bunker you've been preparing for years.

 

[Sinn Fein]

We should probably fire the surgeon general over this, no?

There is no surgeon general to fire, thanks to the Republicans in the Senate.

Is this shtick or true?

confirmation blocked. Had the audacity to say that gun violence was a public health risk

Maybe he should stick to medicine.

Maybe the senate should just stick to confirming appointees...

 

[cstu]

People won't laugh at me anymore when I yell at the kids to get off my lawn.

 

[Bucky86]

The lymph nodes in my neck are kind of tender. Do you think I should go in to the ER?

 

[sn0mm1s]

It's funny how people downplay #### and it's so impossible to spread yada yada yada

First we had one case with 25 or so people being watched or quarantined. Now we have 3 cases, and a lot more people will be quarantined. I'd be betting that there will be more than 3 by months end.

Who's saying it's impossible to spread? Measles, mumps are far more contagious and kill hundreds of people, infants, every year because wing nuts won't vaccinate. Dont see that as the lead on CNN 24-7

Hundreds don't die every year in the US - not sure where you are getting that info.

The reason we don't see it as the lead on CNN is because, while measles and the like are far more contagious - the diseases are also far less lethal and very treatable.

At best the current Ebola outbreak has a mortality rate of 50% - likely it is much higher.

Also, it would appear that we are rather overconfident in our ability to prevent the spread - or we are underestimating the ease/level of contact needed to spread the disease. If it was truly as hard to spread as many are claiming we wouldn't have healthcare workers getting sick. IMO, another red flag is that these healthcare workers don't seem to be able to indicate the point in time where they ####ed up and exposed themselves.

 

[cstu]

So this nurse used PPE, gown, gloves, and face/head gear. Still got ####### ebola. So, if a trained person can get ebola, how in the world are people who don't deal with using PPE not going to get infected.

I thought Ebola up to now was very hard to contract from an infected person if you didn't share needles, semen, blood, or other bodily fluids.

IT'S COMING FROM THE VENTS.

Enough is enough! I have had it with this mother####ing ebola in the mother####ing vents!

 

[Josie Maran]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

Yet the first guy was in an apartment with 7 people for 2-3 days while showing symptoms, and none of them got sick.

Yet yeah, you know the CDC is lying.

 

[memphis raines]

Baptist St. Anthony Hospital in Amarillo on lockdown, patient having ebola like symptoms.

http://www.connectamarillo.com/news/story.aspx?id=1110202#.VD8BZvldWak

*edit to add link

 

[Slapdash]

We should probably fire the surgeon general over this, no?

There is no surgeon general to fire, thanks to the Republicans in the Senate.

Is this shtick or true?

confirmation blocked. Had the audacity to say that gun violence was a public health risk

Maybe he should stick to medicine.

Maybe the senate should just stick to confirming appointees...

It's more important to show that government functions are worthless than to actually let them be performed.

 

[Abraham]

It's funny how people downplay #### and it's so impossible to spread yada yada yada

First we had one case with 25 or so people being watched or quarantined. Now we have 3 cases, and a lot more people will be quarantined. I'd be betting that there will be more than 3 by months end.

Who's saying it's impossible to spread? Measles, mumps are far more contagious and kill hundreds of people, infants, every year because wing nuts won't vaccinate. Dont see that as the lead on CNN 24-7

Hundreds don't die every year in the US - not sure where you are getting that info.

The reason we don't see it as the lead on CNN is because, while measles and the like are far more contagious - the diseases are also far less lethal and very treatable.

At best the current Ebola outbreak has a mortality rate of 50% - likely it is much higher.

Also, it would appear that we are rather overconfident in our ability to prevent the spread - or we are underestimating the ease/level of contact needed to spread the disease. If it was truly as hard to spread as many are claiming we wouldn't have healthcare workers getting sick. IMO, another red flag is that these healthcare workers don't seem to be able to indicate the point in time where they ####ed up and exposed themselves.

This drives me nuts about today's info-rich universe. You not being told where they exposed themselves doesn't mean they don't know. The cdc is under no obligation to tell any of us information about contraction, etc. Why? Well, it's against the law for starters to disclose patient health information without consent.