Ebola (2 Viewers)

[ghostguy123]

OK, so how many people will catch Ebola from that flight?

PROBABLY none, but enough of a chance to be very worried about it. It only takes one. But it's impossible to quarantine everyone she came in contact with in Akron, at the airport, and on the plane.

It isnt even only about the flight, it's also about the day or so leading up to that where she was in contact with a lot of people all over the area.

Ok then how many people will be get Ebola from her prior to being hospitalized?

This is impossible to answer you do realize.

But the answer, again, is PROBABLY none................is "probably" good enough for you?

so none. why is the sky falling?

So probably is good enough for you, nice.

Because PROBABLY means PROBABLY. PROBABLY doesnt mean NONE. All it takes is ONE ####### PERSON. But we wont know about it for about 2 weeks, maybe more.

 

[tkrull]

OK, so how many people will catch Ebola from that flight?

PROBABLY none, but enough of a chance to be very worried about it. It only takes one. But it's impossible to quarantine everyone she came in contact with in Akron, at the airport, and on the plane.

It isnt even only about the flight, it's also about the day or so leading up to that where she was in contact with a lot of people all over the area.

Ok then how many people will be get Ebola from her prior to being hospitalized?

This is impossible to answer you do realize.

But the answer, again, is PROBABLY none................is "probably" good enough for you?

Probably has to be good enough right now, because that particular horse is out of the barn. Her viral load at that stage is likely quite low. The odds are minimal. We'll know more in 21 days.

 

[Stinger Ray]

Just an FYI, they have the plane quarantined and are decontaminating it.

That's a ham-sandwich for ya. Ham away

But are they burning it like you suggested? They must not take Ebola serious.

 

[ghostguy123]

Probably has to be good enough right now, because that particular horse is out of the barn. Her viral load at that stage is likely quite low. The odds are minimal. We'll know more in 21 days.

Did I disagree with this somewhere or something??

"probably" is definitely not good enough though. Unfortunately, its all we have.

But yeah, if she infected anyone in Akron or the Airport (and who knows where the hell they traveled to), we wont know for a couple weeks or more.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

There are 100 US deaths a year from chickenpox, 40,000 from flu, 500 from meningitis.

then why the hell are we wasting resources in Africa when we could be stamping out chicken pox, flu, and meningitis.. thanks Eobalma <_<

We're not really. Even though a lot was promised, very, very, very little was delivered.

 

[ghostguy123]

Just an FYI, they have the plane quarantined and are decontaminating it.

That's a ham-sandwich for ya. Ham away

But are they burning it like you suggested? They must not take Ebola serious.

no, they dont take my posts as literally as you

 

[Stinger Ray]

Just an FYI, they have the plane quarantined and are decontaminating it.

That's a ham-sandwich for ya. Ham away

But are they burning it like you suggested? They must not take Ebola serious.

no, they dont take my posts as literally as you

You wrote the nonsense .

 

[ghostguy123]

There are 100 US deaths a year from chickenpox, 40,000 from flu, 500 from meningitis.

then why the hell are we wasting resources in Africa when we could be stamping out chicken pox, flu, and meningitis.. thanks Eobalma <_<

We're not really. Even though a lot was promised, very, very, very little was delivered.

But you must be brilliant to be offering to fly a plane in quarantine. GENIUS.

 

[ghostguy123]

Just an FYI, they have the plane quarantined and are decontaminating it.

That's a ham-sandwich for ya. Ham away

But are they burning it like you suggested? They must not take Ebola serious.

no, they dont take my posts as literally as you

You wrote the nonsense .

And as I said, you wanna fly a plane in quarantine. GENIUS!!!!!!!!

 

[Stinger Ray]

Just an FYI, they have the plane quarantined and are decontaminating it.

That's a ham-sandwich for ya. Ham away

But are they burning it like you suggested? They must not take Ebola serious.

no, they dont take my posts as literally as you

You wrote the nonsense .

And as I said, you wanna fly a plane in quarantine. GENIUS!!!!!!!!

Sure....no people and open bar.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

I don't get this. I self quarantine if I think I have the flu. I can't imagine exposing people if I have a fever and I've just treated ebola patients.

You're right. Doctors do not want you to visit when you have the flu. There is not much they can do for you anyway.

 

[fantasycurse42]

There are 100 US deaths a year from chickenpox, 40,000 from flu, 500 from meningitis.

And a hundred people that can recite those facts.

Fennis would be the same idiot back in the 1970s saying the same thing when HIV popped up.

no that would be a different idiot.

Fennis Sr.

 

[ghostguy123]

Just another FYI.........................parent of one of my patients just called.

PNC bank in Brecksville is shut down tomorrow (for undetermined period of time) because someone workign there was in contact with this Nurse lady who flew back to Dallas.

This is just factual news, I dont even know what to make of it. Just sharing.

 

[culdeus]

If the world is turning into zombies and there is an ebola vaccine that can save you will Jenny McCarthy take it?

 

[ghostguy123]

If the world is turning into zombies and there is an ebola vaccine that can save you will Jenny McCarthy take it?

Rather have zombies. I think that would be easier to manage than a huge ebola outbreak...............unless they are the kind of zombies than run. #### that ####

 

[Fennis]

Just another FYI.........................parent of one of my patients just called.

PNC bank in Brecksville is shut down tomorrow (for undetermined period of time) because someone workign there was in contact with this Nurse lady who flew back to Dallas.

This is just factual news, I dont even know what to make of it. Just sharing.

patients? what do you do?

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Kent Brantly can only give blood to so many people each week. It is not a good idea to overdo it.

 

[Josie Maran]

Just another FYI.........................parent of one of my patients just called.

PNC bank in Brecksville is shut down tomorrow (for undetermined period of time) because someone workign there was in contact with this Nurse lady who flew back to Dallas.

This is just factual news, I dont even know what to make of it. Just sharing.

Well that's just idiotic.

 

[Otis]

You guys watch waayyyyy too much CNN.

If those idiots make Sanjay demonstrate putting on or taking off a hazmat suit one more time I may ebola myself to death.

 

[Fennis]

Just another FYI.........................parent of one of my patients just called.

PNC bank in Brecksville is shut down tomorrow (for undetermined period of time) because someone workign there was in contact with this Nurse lady who flew back to Dallas.

This is just factual news, I dont even know what to make of it. Just sharing.

Well that's just idiotic.

welcome to America

 

[Josie Maran]

Just another FYI.........................parent of one of my patients just called.

PNC bank in Brecksville is shut down tomorrow (for undetermined period of time) because someone workign there was in contact with this Nurse lady who flew back to Dallas.

This is just factual news, I dont even know what to make of it. Just sharing.

Well that's just idiotic.

welcome to America

That's why I said we're doomed. Ebola ain't got nothin' on hysteria and idiocy.

 

[Fennis]

You guys watch waayyyyy too much CNN.

If those idiots make Sanjay demonstrate putting on or taking off a hazmat suit one more time I may ebola myself to death.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5xeipSsY9w

 

[ghostguy123]

Just another FYI.........................parent of one of my patients just called.

PNC bank in Brecksville is shut down tomorrow (for undetermined period of time) because someone workign there was in contact with this Nurse lady who flew back to Dallas.

This is just factual news, I dont even know what to make of it. Just sharing.

patients? what do you do?

I already stated, I am a nurse, working on the west side of cleveland as we speak. Slow night. all my patients asleep.

 

[Stinger Ray]

Just another FYI.........................parent of one of my patients just called.

PNC bank in Brecksville is shut down tomorrow (for undetermined period of time) because someone workign there was in contact with this Nurse lady who flew back to Dallas.

This is just factual news, I dont even know what to make of it. Just sharing.

patients? what do you do?

I already stated, I am a nurse, working on the west side of cleveland as we speak. Slow night. all my patients asleep.

Nurses wake patients up all the time.

 

[ghostguy123]

Just another FYI.........................parent of one of my patients just called.

PNC bank in Brecksville is shut down tomorrow (for undetermined period of time) because someone workign there was in contact with this Nurse lady who flew back to Dallas.

This is just factual news, I dont even know what to make of it. Just sharing.

Well that's just idiotic.

welcome to America

That's why I said we're doomed. Ebola ain't got nothin' on hysteria and idiocy.

I would agree. Shutting down isn't doing anything. If they have one person they are worried about, well, that one person should not be coming to work and should voluntarily get checked out, or course.

As much as I am concerned, I am not going to run around figure 8s in the street yelling and screaming waiving my arms over my head.

Maybe the manager just wants the day off and using this as an excuse, who knows.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Some info on Brantly and Duncan's blood types.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/dr-kent-brantly-donate-blood-thomas-eric-duncan/story?id=26226388

 

[ghostguy123]

Just another FYI.........................parent of one of my patients just called.

PNC bank in Brecksville is shut down tomorrow (for undetermined period of time) because someone workign there was in contact with this Nurse lady who flew back to Dallas.

This is just factual news, I dont even know what to make of it. Just sharing.

patients? what do you do?

I already stated, I am a nurse, working on the west side of cleveland as we speak. Slow night. all my patients asleep.

Nurses wake patients up all the time.

Your point?

 

[Hilts]

Just another FYI.........................parent of one of my patients just called.

PNC bank in Brecksville is shut down tomorrow (for undetermined period of time) because someone workign there was in contact with this Nurse lady who flew back to Dallas.

This is just factual news, I dont even know what to make of it. Just sharing.

Burn down the bank, imo.

 

[ghostguy123]

Just another FYI.........................parent of one of my patients just called.

PNC bank in Brecksville is shut down tomorrow (for undetermined period of time) because someone workign there was in contact with this Nurse lady who flew back to Dallas.

This is just factual news, I dont even know what to make of it. Just sharing.

Burn down the bank, imo.

All ya need is a gun and a bottle rocket. Ask Carol.

 

[cubd8]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

If people wearing protective gears are getting it, and someone on a plane develops symptoms, even if it hard to transmit, all it takes is one person leaving that plan, and spreading it elsewhere in the airport for this to spread everywhere.

Panic? Perhaps. Ridiculous? Hopefully.

All I know is that this has gone from it's not an epidemic (and it still isn't in the US) to this one hospital, with one patient, and nurses wearing gear to now 2 infected, and one traveling.

Not good and damn scary

 

[Hilts]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

If people wearing protective gears are getting it, and someone on a plane develops symptoms, even if it hard to transmit, all it takes is one person leaving that plan, and spreading it elsewhere in the airport for this to spread everywhere.

Panic? Perhaps. Ridiculous? Hopefully.

All I know is that this has gone from it's not an epidemic (and it still isn't in the US) to this one hospital, with one patient, and nurses wearing gear to now 2 infected, and one traveling.

Not good and damn scary

It's gone from not an epidemic in this country and has quickly morphed into not an epidemic in this country.

PANIC!!!!

 

[ghostguy123]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

If people wearing protective gears are getting it, and someone on a plane develops symptoms, even if it hard to transmit, all it takes is one person leaving that plan, and spreading it elsewhere in the airport for this to spread everywhere.

Panic? Perhaps. Ridiculous? Hopefully.

All I know is that this has gone from it's not an epidemic (and it still isn't in the US) to this one hospital, with one patient, and nurses wearing gear to now 2 infected, and one traveling.

Not good and damn scary

Scary especially since the incubation period is so long so we have no idea who is currently sick right now. Could be nobody, could be 50 people in 3-4 weeks.

With as crazy as people are kinda going right now, 3-4 weeks right now should hopefully clear this up a bit. Could be pretty much in the clear, could have a couple cases pop up and were are in the same position as right now x2, or could be 10-20 cases and all #### breaks loose.

 

[ghostguy123]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

If people wearing protective gears are getting it, and someone on a plane develops symptoms, even if it hard to transmit, all it takes is one person leaving that plan, and spreading it elsewhere in the airport for this to spread everywhere.

Panic? Perhaps. Ridiculous? Hopefully.

All I know is that this has gone from it's not an epidemic (and it still isn't in the US) to this one hospital, with one patient, and nurses wearing gear to now 2 infected, and one traveling.

Not good and damn scary

It's gone from not an epidemic in this country and has quickly morphed into not an epidemic in this country.

PANIC!!!!

Just an FYI, since you dont seem to know, there has NOT BEEN ENOUGH TIME PASSED for us to even know yet. If people have been infected we wont know for at least a week or more from now.

 

[cubd8]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

If people wearing protective gears are getting it, and someone on a plane develops symptoms, even if it hard to transmit, all it takes is one person leaving that plan, and spreading it elsewhere in the airport for this to spread everywhere.

Panic? Perhaps. Ridiculous? Hopefully.

All I know is that this has gone from it's not an epidemic (and it still isn't in the US) to this one hospital, with one patient, and nurses wearing gear to now 2 infected, and one traveling.

Not good and damn scary

It's gone from not an epidemic in this country and has quickly morphed into not an epidemic in this country.

PANIC!!!!

It's not an epidemic in this country, but we've also been repeatedly told by our government / CDC that this isn't something we need to concern ourselves with in this country.

Nobody is saying panic, at least I'm not, but ignoring any news on this is ignorance.

 

[cubd8]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

If people wearing protective gears are getting it, and someone on a plane develops symptoms, even if it hard to transmit, all it takes is one person leaving that plan, and spreading it elsewhere in the airport for this to spread everywhere.

Panic? Perhaps. Ridiculous? Hopefully.

All I know is that this has gone from it's not an epidemic (and it still isn't in the US) to this one hospital, with one patient, and nurses wearing gear to now 2 infected, and one traveling.

Not good and damn scary

It's gone from not an epidemic in this country and has quickly morphed into not an epidemic in this country.

PANIC!!!!

Just an FYI, since you dont seem to know, there has NOT BEEN ENOUGH TIME PASSED for us to even know yet. If people have been infected we wont know for at least a week or more from now.

I believe it takes up to 21 days to show symptoms.

 

[ghostguy123]

I believe it takes up to 21 days to show symptoms.

It can. It is on average near 10 days. Sometimes a few days, can be up to 21 days that we know of.

But yeah, up to 21 days...................sucks

 

[ghostguy123]

ghostguy123, how many diet Dr Peppers have you had this evening?

Dont need any considering a symptomatic ebola person was 4 miles from here two days ago

 

[Hilts]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

If people wearing protective gears are getting it, and someone on a plane develops symptoms, even if it hard to transmit, all it takes is one person leaving that plan, and spreading it elsewhere in the airport for this to spread everywhere.

Panic? Perhaps. Ridiculous? Hopefully.

All I know is that this has gone from it's not an epidemic (and it still isn't in the US) to this one hospital, with one patient, and nurses wearing gear to now 2 infected, and one traveling.

Not good and damn scary

It's gone from not an epidemic in this country and has quickly morphed into not an epidemic in this country.

PANIC!!!!

It's not an epidemic in this country, but we've also been repeatedly told by our government / CDC that this isn't something we need to concern ourselves with in this country.

Nobody is saying panic, at least I'm not, but ignoring any news on this is ignorance.

And they've thus far been absolutely right.

 

[MaxThreshold]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

If people wearing protective gears are getting it, and someone on a plane develops symptoms, even if it hard to transmit, all it takes is one person leaving that plan, and spreading it elsewhere in the airport for this to spread everywhere.

Panic? Perhaps. Ridiculous? Hopefully.

All I know is that this has gone from it's not an epidemic (and it still isn't in the US) to this one hospital, with one patient, and nurses wearing gear to now 2 infected, and one traveling.

Not good and damn scary

It's gone from not an epidemic in this country and has quickly morphed into not an epidemic in this country.

PANIC!!!!

It's not an epidemic in this country, but we've also been repeatedly told by our government / CDC that this isn't something we need to concern ourselves with in this country.

Nobody is saying panic, at least I'm not, but ignoring any news on this is ignorance.

And they've thus far been absolutely right.

BECAUSE IT'S UP TO A 3 WEEK INCUBATION PERIOD. It's only cropped up within the last week or two.

What, don't you read ANYTHING?

 

[Hilts]

So she didnt vomit or bleed on the plane so chances of anyone getting it are slim. Meanwhile, two nurses got it even though they were wearing protective gear. Were they vomited on? Bled on? They're obviously lying about the chances being slim.

If people wearing protective gears are getting it, and someone on a plane develops symptoms, even if it hard to transmit, all it takes is one person leaving that plan, and spreading it elsewhere in the airport for this to spread everywhere.

Panic? Perhaps. Ridiculous? Hopefully.

All I know is that this has gone from it's not an epidemic (and it still isn't in the US) to this one hospital, with one patient, and nurses wearing gear to now 2 infected, and one traveling.

Not good and damn scary

It's gone from not an epidemic in this country and has quickly morphed into not an epidemic in this country.

PANIC!!!!

It's not an epidemic in this country, but we've also been repeatedly told by our government / CDC that this isn't something we need to concern ourselves with in this country.

Nobody is saying panic, at least I'm not, but ignoring any news on this is ignorance.

And they've thus far been absolutely right.

BECAUSE IT'S UP TO A 3 WEEK INCUBATION PERIOD. It's only cropped up within the last week or two.

What, don't you read ANYTHING?

Okay. And? Do you have proof the CDC has been wrong about this not being something Americans need to worry about?

 

[SacramentoBob]

I love the fact that Africa, where civilization started, and Texas, where Texans think civilization started, are combining to end civilization. Nice symmetry there.

Like IOU.

 

[SacramentoBob]

I have had it with this mother####ing ebola on this mother####ing plane!

 

[ghostguy123]

And they've thus far been absolutely right.

Sure, but now were are totally unprepared for it, and it's here. Thats his point

 

[ghostguy123]

Okay. And? Do you have proof the CDC has been wrong about this not being something Americans need to worry about?

I have proof in that there are a few cases in the US right now, and clearly we are unprepared in terms of handling people with ebola. \

Whatmore proof do you need?

 

[Hilts]

And they've thus far been absolutely right.

Sure, but now were are totally unprepared for it, and it's here. Thats his point

They've been totally unprepared for it. They've lacked proper protocols (either not having one or not following it). They sent an infected patient back into the public by an awful mistake.

And we're still at what, 2 infected people?

 

[ghostguy123]

Some more info.

The plane that the ebola nurse was on that went to Dallas:

---20+ nurses were on that exact same plane (conference) from Dallas back to Cleveland on monday (after ebola nurse was on it earlier), and are all currently on 21 day paid leave. Not sure if they are quarantined or not.

 

[Hilts]

Okay. And? Do you have proof the CDC has been wrong about this not being something Americans need to worry about?

I have proof in that there are a few cases in the US right now, and clearly we are unprepared in terms of handling people with ebola. \

Whatmore proof do you need?

Having it under control and not being anything to worry about doesn't mean there won't be a few isolated cases.

 

[UniAlias]

I live less than 4 miles from Presbyterian and am flying Frontier EbolaAir in a couple weeks.

Guess I better prepare myself.

 

[ghostguy123]

And they've thus far been absolutely right.

Sure, but now were are totally unprepared for it, and it's here. Thats his point

They've been totally unprepared for it. They've lacked proper protocols (either not having one or not following it). They sent an infected patient back into the public by an awful mistake.

And we're still at what, 2 infected people?

Again, you have no idea how this disease works.

It takes nearly two weeks and up to 21 days for people who have the disease to show symptoms. How dense can you possibly be???

NOT ENOUGH TIME HAS PASSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LEARN TO ####### READ

 

[timschochet]

Can't believe I actually agree with Stinger Ray on something- but he's 100% right.

Ghostguy, you're exactly the sort of person who makes these situations far worse. You panic and call for extreme actions, and you spread fear. Whenever people like you have gotten loud enough, it has always resulted in calamity for this country, far worse than any disease has.