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Eddie Kennison unhappy with contract (1 Viewer)

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Chiefs’ Kennison unhappy with contract and indicates he may leave camp if he can’t get raise or his release.

By ADAM TEICHER

The Kansas City Star

Halfway through a six-year contract he signed in 2003, the Chiefs’ Eddie Kennison might have been able to live with the terms of the deal scheduled to pay him $2.1 million this season.

But offseason research by his agent, John Hamilton, showed Kennison to have the 45th-highest 2006 salary among the NFL’s 64 starting wide receivers. One of Kennison’s closest peers in terms of age and recent performance, Dallas’ Terry Glenn, recently received a lucrative contract extension.

Closer to home, the Chiefs just signed free-agent cornerback Ty Law to a five-year, $30 million deal.

Suddenly, Kennison’s contract isn’t as attractive, and this week he decided to do something about it.

Kennison said he would report to training camp with the Chiefs in time for the first practice Friday at the University of Wisconsin-River Falls. But he also indicated he might leave camp at some point if the Chiefs don’t either give him a new contract with a raise or release him.

“I will cross that bridge when I get to it,” Kennison said. “I will go to camp and work as hard as I’ve been working. I won’t have any bitter or sour attitudes in camp. …

“But when I signed my last contract with the Chiefs, I think we all know that if I hadn’t performed to expectations, I wouldn’t be here anymore. Well, I played beyond those expectations. Now it’s time for them to step up and compensate me for my performance compared to the guys in my peer group.

“I would hope the Chiefs would put me on waivers if they don’t want to step to the plate.”

The loss of Kennison would be a huge blow to the Chiefs. Kennison, who had more than 1,000 receiving yards in each of the last two seasons, is their only established wide receiver.

Samie Parker, the other starter, has shown promise — but between injuries and inconsistencies he hasn’t put together a full season. The other receivers are Dante Hall, whose value to the Chiefs has been as a kick-returner, and a collection of unproven younger players.

Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson did not respond to a request to answer questions on Kennison’s situation.

Kennison, who joined the Chiefs in 2001, is quietly becoming one of the franchise’s all-time receiving leaders. He ranks in the top 10 in virtually every major career receiving category. Only Kennison and Carlos Carson have put together back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons.

Kennison received about $6.6 million, including a signing bonus of $3.2 million, in the first three years of his current contract.

“The problem is that when Eddie signed that contract, the Chiefs had already paid Johnnie Morton to be their No. 1 receiver,” Hamilton said. “Eddie’s contract was not set up for him to be the No. 1 guy. It was set up for him to be the No. 2 guy. That deal is OK but not great with respect to a No. 2 receiver, but not a No. 1 receiver.”

Morton, a big-money free-agent addition in 2002, flopped and was released last year. Meanwhile, Kennison not only outplayed Morton, but his contract figures are being blown away in the current market.

For example, two players with inferior statistics to Kennison recently received exorbitant free-agent contracts. New England’s David Givens signed with Tennessee for $15.3 million over the next three seasons while Pittsburgh’s Antwaan Randle El signed with Washington for $11.2 million over the next two.

Kennison’s current contract calls for him to receive about $4.8 million over the next two seasons and $8.2 million over the next three. Kennison last season had more catches (68), yards (1,102) and touchdowns (five) than either Givens or Randle El.

“We can’t ignore what the marketplace has done,” Hamilton said.

The Chiefs might be hesitant to give big money to a 33-year-old wide receiver. If that’s their stance, it’s understandable. Kennison is at an age when players at his position tend to lose their skills rapidly.

“That is what they’ve told me is their concern,” Hamilton said. “But there are ways to give them some protection in case Eddie’s production falls way off.”

The Chiefs’ signing of the 32-year-old Law added to Kennison’s frustration

“I know Ty Law,” he said. “He’s a friend, and I’m excited he’s here. But, yeah, it’s a source of frustration. When you’ve been a part of an organization for some time, I think those guys in that organization need to be taken care of first.”

Kennison and Hamilton first contacted the Chiefs in the spring. Talks have been ongoing but fruitless.

Kennison initially thought about not reporting for camp. After discussions with his wife, Shimika, and Hamilton, Kennison decided against it.

His decision to report doesn’t necessarily mean he’s in it for the long haul.

“I have a responsibility to this organization and the 53 guys I dress with, so it came up quickly that I was not going to miss camp,” Kennison said. “I’m not a selfish, flashy kind of guy. I just want the world to know what’s going on with my situation.

“I love being a Kansas City Chief. I want to be here for the rest of my career. The Chiefs have not said they won’t take care of me. Carl has indicated to my agent they are willing to do something. We just need to get to a point where both parties are happy. Obviously, we’re not to that point yet, and I don’t think we’re even close.”
 
So in the AFC West, that's Ashley Lelie, Jerry Porter, and now Eddie Kennison.
So, as a Charger's fan, are you licking your chops?
Well Keenan already has one of these demands on his resume. Only plausible he'd do it again.
 
So in the AFC West, that's Ashley Lelie, Jerry Porter, and now Eddie Kennison.
So, as a Charger's fan, are you licking your chops?
Well Keenan already has one of these demands on his resume. Only plausible he'd do it again.
Keenan's a happy camper who was just extended this offseason. Parker was also just extended.
 
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Kennison is underpaid. However, he's not that great. Teams have overpaid for Givens and Randle El, but that doesn't mean Kennison is worth it.

However, I tend to side with the players in the NFL because the money isn't guaranteed, and teams show no loyalty when they cut overpaid veterans. Who's to say the Chiefs wouldn't cut Kennison if he has a bad year?

 
Kennison is underpaid.
Exactly. Which is why the Chiefs should restructure his contract marginally so that he's paid a nice, comfortable roster bonus that doesn't hurt the team but meets Kennisons needs. As is clear enough, he's not great, but he's better than he's given credit for, and a roster bonus would be well-earned. No long-term signing bonus or complex base salary adjustments; just a nice chunk of money to keep him producing while the Chiefs keep competing.
 
Wow...Eddie Kennison needs to be careful. He was carving out a fairly mediocre career before he became Trent Green's go-to receiver. He's basically been the only WR target in Green's arsenal and, despite that, has simply become a "solid" contributor versus a star.

I can see why he wants more dough, he's not getting any younger and has been underpaid it seems. But to suggest the team would be well served to waive him?

Does anything think Kennison would come close to matching his KC numbers on any other team? I don't.

 
Wow...Eddie Kennison needs to be careful. He was carving out a fairly mediocre career before he became Trent Green's go-to receiver. He's basically been the only WR target in Green's arsenal and, despite that, has simply become a "solid" contributor versus a star.

I can see why he wants more dough, he's not getting any younger and has been underpaid it seems. But to suggest the team would be well served to waive him?

Does anything think Kennison would come close to matching his KC numbers on any other team? I don't.
He'd probably be a #2/#3 wr on most teams (except for the Eagles ;) ).
 
While I realize it was not an altruistic gesture, didn't KC save Kennison from the scrap heap. The guy walked out on his teammates in Denver saying he wanted to retire. A little later he shows up in KC and they give him a contract. Then Trent Green makes him a WR#1 (if any team with TG really has a WR#1).

I realize that he has been a consistent receiver for them, but he is no stud. And now he wants to walk out on another team.

 
Wow...Eddie Kennison needs to be careful. He was carving out a fairly mediocre career before he became Trent Green's go-to receiver.
I think you're "off" here Jason. IIRC He was rookie of the year then barely playing in St. Louis in Vermeil's doghouse, then the Saints, then chi-town, then in Shanny's doghouse and I think he was actually cut from Denver. Not 100% but he wasn't doing well in Denver. His poor attitude greatly affected his career. Maybe SSOG or Cecil remembers his Denver days better.

 
Wow...Eddie Kennison needs to be careful. He was carving out a fairly mediocre career before he became Trent Green's go-to receiver.
I think you're "off" here Jason. IIRC He was rookie of the year then barely playing in St. Louis in Vermeil's doghouse, then the Saints, then chi-town, then in Shanny's doghouse and I think he was actually cut from Denver. Not 100% but he wasn't doing well in Denver. His poor attitude greatly affected his career. Maybe SSOG or Cecil remembers his Denver days better.
Hey Bri,He had a solid rookie season in St. Louis, but that happened to be one of the best WR classes in history.

Terry Glenn
Eddie Kennison
Keyshawn Johnson
Marvin Harrison
Eric Moulds
Amani Toomer
Muhsin Muhammad
Bobby Engram
Terrell Owens
Joe HornOf that group, four rookies finished in the top 25 (still a record IIRC):

Terry Glenn -- WR14 (90 recs/1132 yards/6 TDs)
Eddie Kennison -- WR17 (54 recs/924 yards/9 TDs)
Marvin Harrison -- WR21 (64 recs/836 yards/8 TDs)
Keyshawn Johnson -- WR22 (63 recs/844 yards/8 TDs)But from there Eddie Kennison's career quickly devolved into bust...KC ABSOLUTELY rescued him from the scrap heap.

Consider:

In seven seasons, Kennison never eclipsed the 1,000-yard mark
His career best was 61 receptions, he averaged 41 receptions a season
His career yards were 924 (as a rook), he averaged 573 yards
His fantasy finishes were 17th (rook), 77th, 92nd, 40th, 58th, 66th
He played for four teams in four years (KC is his fifth team)
He never ranked in the top-10 for a season in any category (after ranking 9th in TDs as a rookie)
He has more seasons of 2 TDs or less (5) than seasons with 5+ TDs (3)The dude was basically on his way to being a complete bum before resurfacing in KC...

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/KennEd00.htm

 
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Of that group, four rookies finished in the top 25 (still a record IIRC):

Terry Glenn -- WR14 (90 recs/1132 yards/6 TDs)
Eddie Kennison -- WR17 (54 recs/924 yards/9 TDs)
Marvin Harrison -- WR31 (64 recs/836 yards/8 TDs)
Keyshawn Johnson -- WR22 (63 recs/844 yards/8 TDs)
Ummm.....Jason....

 
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Oh, and by the way Bri...you've got your timeline a bit screwy.

Kennison was a rookie in 1996, Rich Brooks was his head coach. Vermeil took over the following year and, yes, Kennison played his way into Vermeil's doghouse (ironic since it was Vermail who rescued him from the scrap heap in KC).

He also only played 8 regular season games in Denver...quitting on the team midway through the year in 2001 (having been in Chicago in 2000). Kennison then regretted the decision and asked back on the team. HC Mike Shanahan put the decision in the team's hands, allowing them to vote and they voted to not accept Kennison back. That's when he landed in KC.

 
Of that group, four rookies finished in the top 25 (still a record IIRC):

Terry Glenn -- WR14 (90 recs/1132 yards/6 TDs)
Eddie Kennison -- WR17 (54 recs/924 yards/9 TDs)
Marvin Harrison -- WR31 (64 recs/836 yards/8 TDs)
Keyshawn Johnson -- WR22 (63 recs/844 yards/8 TDs)
Ummm.....Jason....
Typo...Harrison was WR21 as a rook. :thumbup:
 
Not only did KC save him but look at how he never stayed with a team more than a year (after STL) beofre he got here

1998 stl

1999 nor

2000 chi

2001 den

2001 kan

Carl Peterson did this guy a FAVOR in '01. Eddie is supposed to be this classy guy who does things with faith groups and comunity service groups, etc.

I guess every guy shows his true colors at some point.

 
Carl Peterson did this guy a FAVOR in '01. Eddie is supposed to be this classy guy who does things with faith groups and comunity service groups, etc.

I guess every guy shows his true colors at some point.
So he isn't allowed to ask for a raise?
 
I guess every guy shows his true colors at some point.
I don't agree with this, KA.Imagine if you walked into talk to your boss, and asked for a raise.

Is that showing your "true colors"? It's just part of doing business, IMO.

 
Carl Peterson did this guy a FAVOR in '01. Eddie is supposed to be this classy guy who does things with faith groups and comunity service groups, etc.

I guess every guy shows his true colors at some point.
So he isn't allowed to ask for a raise?
Dont sign the contract if you arent going to honor it......no matter what #s you put up.Thats just how I look at things.....no matter if its Terrell Ownes or jeff Webb. The whole thing of asking for a raise is not pertinent here as most employees dont sign contracts. They give their 2 weeks notice and leave.

Eddie signed a CONTRACT and he is the employee, not the employer. He needs to honor the contract he signed.

I guess it doesnt mean he cant ask, but he shouldnt be mad if KC brass says no.

 
Which begs the question...

If Kennison goes, how much does this bump up Gonzo and Parker?

However unlikely it is...
Big bump for Parker. I think KC is grooming him to be Kennison's replacement. He showed nice progression as a 2nd year WR last year. Now if he can just stay healthy!I can't see Gonzo getting much more than he already does (although hopefully his TD's rebound this year.)

 
Not only did KC save him but look at how he never stayed with a team more than a year (after STL) beofre he got here

1998 stl

1999 nor

2000 chi

2001 den

2001 kan

Carl Peterson did this guy a FAVOR in '01. Eddie is supposed to be this classy guy who does things with faith groups and comunity service groups, etc.

I guess every guy shows his true colors at some point.
This is where I have to disagree. Eddie Kennison doesn't owe the Chiefs anything more than he's given them. He said he's going to show up to camp and "MAY" leave or ask to be waived. But in the NFL your worth what your current contract says your worth. There are no guaranteed monies beyond the signing and roster bonuses.He's entitled to ask for more money. And the Chiefs are entitled to say no.

I wouldn't say that what Kennison has done belies his being a classy or upstanding human being.

In fact, I'm sure there are quite a few downright awful human beings in the NFL (and other sports) that are consumate professionals when it comes to their contractual obligations. They're really not correlated IMHO.

 
Carl Peterson did this guy a FAVOR in '01.  Eddie is supposed to be this classy guy who does things with faith groups and comunity service groups, etc.

I guess every guy shows his true colors at some point.
So he isn't allowed to ask for a raise?
Dont sign the contract if you arent going to honor it......no matter what #s you put up.Thats just how I look at things.....no matter if its Terrell Ownes or jeff Webb. The whole thing of asking for a raise is not pertinent here as most employees dont sign contracts. They give their 2 weeks notice and leave.

Eddie signed a CONTRACT and he is the employee, not the employer. He needs to honor the contract he signed.

I guess it doesnt mean he cant ask, but he shouldnt be mad if KC brass says no.
NFL teams rarely honor those same contracts, why should players be held to a different standard? How would you feel if your employer came up to you and said "you know what, we think you're going to make too much money next year. Take a pay cut or your fired!"
 
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Carl Peterson did this guy a FAVOR in '01. Eddie is supposed to be this classy guy who does things with faith groups and comunity service groups, etc.

I guess every guy shows his true colors at some point.
So he isn't allowed to ask for a raise?
:no: Asking for raise = EVIL

:lmao:

 
Carl Peterson did this guy a FAVOR in '01.  Eddie is supposed to be this classy guy who does things with faith groups and comunity service groups, etc.

I guess every guy shows his true colors at some point.
So he isn't allowed to ask for a raise?
Dont sign the contract if you arent going to honor it......no matter what #s you put up.Thats just how I look at things.....no matter if its Terrell Ownes or jeff Webb. The whole thing of asking for a raise is not pertinent here as most employees dont sign contracts. They give their 2 weeks notice and leave.

Eddie signed a CONTRACT and he is the employee, not the employer. He needs to honor the contract he signed.

I guess it doesnt mean he cant ask, but he shouldnt be mad if KC brass says no.
Not to go off on a tangent here, but you mention CONTRACT as though it's the same as a binding employment contract. It's absolutely not. NFL contracts are actually a series of single-year deals that must be mutually agreed upon each and every season.The Chiefs could waive Kennison tomorrow and his CONTRACT would mean absolutely nothing in a court of law.

At my job, I have a contract in the way your refer. It's my firms right to fire me, but they owe me a prespecified amount of my remaining money. And, because of that security, I am bound to honor my contract and can't leave for a competitor unless I'm fired.

Much, much different. I've never seen a labor lawyer even hint that NFL contracts are anything like what you and I consider a contract; thus using your worldview and saying he's somehow not honoring his deal belies the true nature of the agreement he and the Chiefs have with one another.

 
Carl Peterson did this guy a FAVOR in '01. Eddie is supposed to be this classy guy who does things with faith groups and comunity service groups, etc.

I guess every guy shows his true colors at some point.
So he isn't allowed to ask for a raise?
Dont sign the contract if you arent going to honor it......no matter what #s you put up.Thats just how I look at things.....no matter if its Terrell Ownes or jeff Webb. The whole thing of asking for a raise is not pertinent here as most employees dont sign contracts. They give their 2 weeks notice and leave.

Eddie signed a CONTRACT and he is the employee, not the employer. He needs to honor the contract he signed.

I guess it doesnt mean he cant ask, but he shouldnt be mad if KC brass says no.
NFL teams rarely honor those same contracts, why should players be held to a different standard? How would you feel if your employer came up to you and said "you know what, we think you're going to make too much money next year. Take a pay cut or your fired!"
Thats how the NFL works......the players dont have to play in the NFL they cant go make 50K working in an office...if they think their lot in life is that bad making millions.
 
Carl Peterson did this guy a FAVOR in '01.  Eddie is supposed to be this classy guy who does things with faith groups and comunity service groups, etc.

I guess every guy shows his true colors at some point.
So he isn't allowed to ask for a raise?
Dont sign the contract if you arent going to honor it......no matter what #s you put up.Thats just how I look at things.....no matter if its Terrell Ownes or jeff Webb. The whole thing of asking for a raise is not pertinent here as most employees dont sign contracts. They give their 2 weeks notice and leave.

Eddie signed a CONTRACT and he is the employee, not the employer. He needs to honor the contract he signed.

I guess it doesnt mean he cant ask, but he shouldnt be mad if KC brass says no.
I used to think like this.After seeing some stats on the web, by the NFLPA of the average pay per position, I want to know what WR was when he signed it. It was around the time of CBA negotiations and one of the positions was up dramatically in just 2 years. Can't recall which but suppose it's CB. If player Y is paid 1 mil and it's average and he's an average player. 2 years from now the average is 3mil well then he's way behind the average. It's totally different than a star holding out for big money, it's just wanting to be paid the norm and I can understand that gripe.

I'd like to know what the average was for vet WRs before I jumped to judgement on Eddie on this one.

 
Carl Peterson did this guy a FAVOR in '01.  Eddie is supposed to be this classy guy who does things with faith groups and comunity service groups, etc.

I guess every guy shows his true colors at some point.
So he isn't allowed to ask for a raise?
Dont sign the contract if you arent going to honor it......no matter what #s you put up.Thats just how I look at things.....no matter if its Terrell Ownes or jeff Webb. The whole thing of asking for a raise is not pertinent here as most employees dont sign contracts. They give their 2 weeks notice and leave.

Eddie signed a CONTRACT and he is the employee, not the employer. He needs to honor the contract he signed.

I guess it doesnt mean he cant ask, but he shouldnt be mad if KC brass says no.
NFL teams rarely honor those same contracts, why should players be held to a different standard? How would you feel if your employer came up to you and said "you know what, we think you're going to make too much money next year. Take a pay cut or your fired!"
Thats how the NFL works......the players dont have to play in the NFL they cant go make 50K working in an office...if they think their lot in life is that bad making millions.
You're confusing the free market with morality here.
 
Which begs the question...

If Kennison goes, how much does this bump up Gonzo and Parker?

However unlikely it is...
I think if he moves it moves up Gonzo more than Parker. I'm not sure that Parker is ready to handle double-teams and be a true WR1. Gonzo we all know can step up his numbers to 1000+ yards and 7-8 TDs. Who this really helps is ole Crap Thorpe, who could go from completely irrelevant to a significant WR3 or even WR2 (if he has any talent to go with his frame he should be able to beat out Hall, who is a much more natural slot receiver than Y.Man, how many times have we heard that Givens trade referenced in terms of contract beefs? I'm beginning to think that TEN paid him that much just to mess up other teams.

 
1) I highly doubt the Chiefs will be without Eddie Kennison this year

2) If he is gone, this is much more about how Trent Green's numbers will be hurt than which WR benefits

3) The Chiefs would almost certainly bring in another veteran or two

 
Carl Peterson did this guy a FAVOR in '01. Eddie is supposed to be this classy guy who does things with faith groups and comunity service groups, etc.

I guess every guy shows his true colors at some point.
So he isn't allowed to ask for a raise?
Dont sign the contract if you arent going to honor it......no matter what #s you put up.Thats just how I look at things.....no matter if its Terrell Ownes or jeff Webb. The whole thing of asking for a raise is not pertinent here as most employees dont sign contracts. They give their 2 weeks notice and leave.

Eddie signed a CONTRACT and he is the employee, not the employer. He needs to honor the contract he signed.

I guess it doesnt mean he cant ask, but he shouldnt be mad if KC brass says no.
NFL teams rarely honor those same contracts, why should players be held to a different standard? How would you feel if your employer came up to you and said "you know what, we think you're going to make too much money next year. Take a pay cut or your fired!"
Thats how the NFL works......the players dont have to play in the NFL they cant go make 50K working in an office...if they think their lot in life is that bad making millions.
You're confusing the free market with morality here.
I guess I will have to agree to disagree here....dont want to argue incessantly as I have what I believe on these situations and I know its not a popular viewpoint.
 
I guess I will have to agree to disagree here....dont want to argue incessantly as I have what I believe on these situations and I know its not a popular viewpoint.
You're arguing that football players owe the owners something because they make gobs of money.If you're going to take that stance...how do you explain the owners making gobs, gobs, and MORE gobs of money off those players?

 
Oh, and by the way Bri...you've got your timeline a bit screwy.

Kennison was a rookie in 1996, Rich Brooks was his head coach. Vermeil took over the following year and, yes, Kennison played his way into Vermeil's doghouse (ironic since it was Vermail who rescued him from the scrap heap in KC).

He also only played 8 regular season games in Denver...quitting on the team midway through the year in 2001 (having been in Chicago in 2000). Kennison then regretted the decision and asked back on the team. HC Mike Shanahan put the decision in the team's hands, allowing them to vote and they voted to not accept Kennison back. That's when he landed in KC.
two good posts JasonI just didn't agree with him carving a mediocre career. His career has been nothing like it should have been. Like you said, great WR class and yet he was O rookie of the year with a promising future. He sure didn't capitalize on that. Like I think you said in a later post, he's lucky to have a career in the NFL after all that.

 
Carl Peterson did this guy a FAVOR in '01.  Eddie is supposed to be this classy guy who does things with faith groups and comunity service groups, etc.

I guess every guy shows his true colors at some point.
So he isn't allowed to ask for a raise?
Dont sign the contract if you arent going to honor it......no matter what #s you put up.Thats just how I look at things.....no matter if its Terrell Ownes or jeff Webb. The whole thing of asking for a raise is not pertinent here as most employees dont sign contracts. They give their 2 weeks notice and leave.

Eddie signed a CONTRACT and he is the employee, not the employer. He needs to honor the contract he signed.

I guess it doesnt mean he cant ask, but he shouldnt be mad if KC brass says no.
NFL teams rarely honor those same contracts, why should players be held to a different standard? How would you feel if your employer came up to you and said "you know what, we think you're going to make too much money next year. Take a pay cut or your fired!"
This is a big misconception on the Board. The team does "honor" the contract. It pays a signing bonus, and now oftentimes guaranteed money. The contract gives the team the right to cut a player and eliminate future salary, but not the guaranteed money or the money already paid.Teams have the right to ask a player for less. If the player says no, he can be cut or the team has to pay him pursuant to the contract.

THe player likewise has the right to ask for more, but if the team says no, the option is to play for the contract or now, to retire.

Now, as for Eddie, I have no problem with him going in and asking for a raise. The problem I have is going public with the demand and saying that he may walk if he's not given the money. I would also have a problem if he actually walks out. I am quite certain that if he performed poorly over the years he would not be in the bosses office asking to give them back any money!

 
I guess I will have to agree to disagree here....dont want to argue incessantly as I have what I believe on these situations and I know its not a popular viewpoint.
You're arguing that football players owe the owners something because they make gobs of money.If you're going to take that stance...how do you explain the owners making gobs, gobs, and MORE gobs of money off those players?
Buddy, employers ALWAYS make more than the employees.....its the reason why I am self-employed becuase I didnt want to make money for someone else.Owners=employer

Players=employee

 
I guess I will have to agree to disagree here....dont want to argue incessantly as I have what I believe on these situations and I know its not a popular viewpoint.
You're arguing that football players owe the owners something because they make gobs of money.If you're going to take that stance...how do you explain the owners making gobs, gobs, and MORE gobs of money off those players?
Buddy, employers ALWAYS make more than the employees.....its the reason why I am self-employed becuase I didnt want to make money for someone else.Owners=employer

Players=employee
Man, I'm glad you cleared that up. ;)
 
Carl Peterson did this guy a FAVOR in '01. Eddie is supposed to be this classy guy who does things with faith groups and comunity service groups, etc.

I guess every guy shows his true colors at some point.
So he isn't allowed to ask for a raise?
Dont sign the contract if you arent going to honor it......no matter what #s you put up.Thats just how I look at things.....no matter if its Terrell Ownes or jeff Webb. The whole thing of asking for a raise is not pertinent here as most employees dont sign contracts. They give their 2 weeks notice and leave.

Eddie signed a CONTRACT and he is the employee, not the employer. He needs to honor the contract he signed.

I guess it doesnt mean he cant ask, but he shouldnt be mad if KC brass says no.
Not to go off on a tangent here, but you mention CONTRACT as though it's the same as a binding employment contract. It's absolutely not. NFL contracts are actually a series of single-year deals that must be mutually agreed upon each and every season.The Chiefs could waive Kennison tomorrow and his CONTRACT would mean absolutely nothing in a court of law.

At my job, I have a contract in the way your refer. It's my firms right to fire me, but they owe me a prespecified amount of my remaining money. And, because of that security, I am bound to honor my contract and can't leave for a competitor unless I'm fired.

Much, much different. I've never seen a labor lawyer even hint that NFL contracts are anything like what you and I consider a contract; thus using your worldview and saying he's somehow not honoring his deal belies the true nature of the agreement he and the Chiefs have with one another.
:goodposting: No...GREAT posting.

:yes:

 
I've never seen a labor lawyer even hint that NFL contracts are anything like what you and I consider a contract; thus using your worldview and saying he's somehow not honoring his deal belies the true nature of the agreement he and the Chiefs have with one another.
It depends on what Kennison does from here. Right now, he's honoring his contract. He's asking for a raise (which is perfectly within his right), and in the meantime, he's in camp.If he leaves camp (without retiring), he is no longer honoring his contract, and may be fined.

 
I've never seen a labor lawyer even hint that NFL contracts are anything like what you and I consider a contract; thus using your worldview and saying he's somehow not honoring his deal belies the true nature of the agreement he and the Chiefs have with one another.
It depends on what Kennison does from here. Right now, he's honoring his contract. He's asking for a raise (which is perfectly within his right), and in the meantime, he's in camp.If he leaves camp (without retiring), he is no longer honoring his contract, and may be fined.
Knowing Eddie Kennison, he'd never walk out on his team.
 
I've never seen a labor lawyer even hint that NFL contracts are anything like what you and I consider a contract; thus using your worldview and saying he's somehow not honoring his deal belies the true nature of the agreement he and the Chiefs have with one another.
It depends on what Kennison does from here. Right now, he's honoring his contract. He's asking for a raise (which is perfectly within his right), and in the meantime, he's in camp.If he leaves camp (without retiring), he is no longer honoring his contract, and may be fined.
Knowing Eddie Kennison, he'd never walk out on his team.
Was that tongue in cheek? He's one of the few NFL players that's actually done just that. He quit on the Broncos, and then begged back on the squad; only to be denied.
 
I've never seen a labor lawyer even hint that NFL contracts are anything like what you and I consider a contract; thus using your worldview and saying he's somehow not honoring his deal belies the true nature of the agreement he and the Chiefs have with one another.
It depends on what Kennison does from here. Right now, he's honoring his contract. He's asking for a raise (which is perfectly within his right), and in the meantime, he's in camp.If he leaves camp (without retiring), he is no longer honoring his contract, and may be fined.
Knowing Eddie Kennison, he'd never walk out on his team.
:lmao: That cracked me up.Thanx KRS :thumbup:

 
Dont sign the contract if you arent going to honor it......no matter what #s you put up.

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Eddie signed a CONTRACT and he is the employee, not the employer. He needs to honor the contract he signed.
I can't disagree more. This is the NFL, where teams cut players under contract because they are overpaid. If your contract isn't guaranteed money, and your employer is free to let you go, you've got to use whatever leverage you have to get paid when you outperform your contract.
 

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