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Edgerrin James lands in Seattle per profootball talk
What does this mean? Is he a starter or backup?
What does this mean? Is he a starter or backup?
After what I've heard so far, probably starter... they just have JUNK at RB there.Edgerrin James lands in Seattle per profootball talkWhat does this mean? Is he a starter or backup?
I think that Forsett is being wrongfully ignored at this point. I'm not so sure that Forsett doesn't make the team over Duckett at this point. The organization seems really intent on giving him a shot. One site added that the third RB on the depth chart would likely be required to run with the special teams and that's obviously something that Forsett would excel at more than Duckett would. As a Hawks fan, as much as I'd love to be excited about the team this year, the O-line injuries are VERY troubling to me considering the poor quality of the backs running behind it. Hasselbeck could be in for a very long year.RBBC? What's the split? 40/40/20 between Edge/JJ/Duckett? wouldn't surprise me. What a mess on a team that already has trouble running the ball, and with a seriously banged up o-line. Not much to be excited about.
Drop Maroney, he's not even a has been, he's a never was.Drafted on Friday -- trying to decide if Edge would be worth a pickup. I'd have to cut Tashard Choice, Jabar Gaffney, or Troy Williamson. I lack depth at WR so I'm not sure about cutting either of those guys. The 8 backs currently on my roster:Marion BarberRyan GrantWillie ParkerFred TaylorLaurence MaroneyChester TaylorShonn GreeneAnd Tashard ChoiceJust not sure if Edge has any value.
I just picked him up and my RBs in a 2 or 3 RB start .5 PPR dynasty are:Adrian Peterson, Min RB Michael Turner, Atl RB Ray Rice, Bal RB Rashard Mendenhall, Pit RB Willie Parker, Pit RB Chester Taylor, Min RB Edgerrin James, Ari RB Could always be trade value down the road.Drafted on Friday -- trying to decide if Edge would be worth a pickup. I'd have to cut Tashard Choice, Jabar Gaffney, or Troy Williamson. I lack depth at WR so I'm not sure about cutting either of those guys. The 8 backs currently on my roster:Marion BarberRyan GrantWillie ParkerFred TaylorLaurence MaroneyChester TaylorShonn GreeneAnd Tashard ChoiceJust not sure if Edge has any value.
If this is true he's probably the best RB on the roster and could have a decent year as a RB3.wow, really?
i wouldn't write him off just yet. he's been incredibly durable over his career. he's barely 31
Am I wrong, or wasn't Edge known for not being very effective in short yardage situations in Arizona? Isn't that how Hightower first started to make an impact? I thought I read something last year where Edge had one of the worst success rates in the league near the goal line. Could be wrong...And JJ doesn't seem like a strong goal line option either, so I would be surprised if they cut TJ. Forsett stays as a change-of-pace, special teams guy. Any Seattle homers that can chime in about whether or not the Seahawks might carry 4 RBs?cake schedule = Edge at least 800 + 8 TD's. They'll cut TJ so the redzone vulture is no more.
I think this is the end of Duckett, unless Jones is injured.(He's been out with an undisclosed leg injury for over a week.)JJ is safe because of the cap hit Seattle would take, and Forsett will be 3rd down back.Am I wrong, or wasn't Edge known for not being very effective in short yardage situations in Arizona? Isn't that how Hightower first started to make an impact? I thought I read something last year where Edge had one of the worst success rates in the league near the goal line. Could be wrong...And JJ doesn't seem like a strong goal line option either, so I would be surprised if they cut TJ. Forsett stays as a change-of-pace, special teams guy. Any Seattle homers that can chime in about whether or not the Seahawks might carry 4 RBs?cake schedule = Edge at least 800 + 8 TD's. They'll cut TJ so the redzone vulture is no more.
As far as I remember, he was never that great in Indy either (in terms of conversion rate) - just got massive numbers of opportunities.Am I wrong, or wasn't Edge known for not being very effective in short yardage situations in Arizona?cake schedule = Edge at least 800 + 8 TD's. They'll cut TJ so the redzone vulture is no more.
Forsett is strictly backup material. I think I run faster than him and I'm also bigger than him.Forsett gets eased in. JJ probably goes. Forsett may be the add.
You think wrong.Forsett is strictly backup material. I think I run faster than him and I'm also bigger than him.
You may be taller, but I'd bet he's BIGGER.
Huh - this just became interesting. There should be a good number of TDs up for grabs.I give JJ the nod in the beginning, but this is a situation to keep an eye on.
If the line doesnt get healthy it might not matter. Honestly, Edge is much more of a threat to JJ than Duckett was. Healthiest back likely wins but I'd say its more of a committee now than before.So does this give Julius Jones more or less value losing Duckett and gaining Edge. I mean Jones is better suited for a sharing load anyway and may get the goaline carries now? Or does Edge step in and take most of the first team reps. Definitely something to keep an eye on. But in the end both guys will probably end up being spot starters at best.
But if it is committee and Jones gets the TD's it makes him a little more appealing for those games he will run for 50 yards.If the line doesnt get healthy it might not matter. Honestly, Edge is much more of a threat to JJ than Duckett was. Healthiest back likely wins but I'd say its more of a committee now than before.So does this give Julius Jones more or less value losing Duckett and gaining Edge. I mean Jones is better suited for a sharing load anyway and may get the goaline carries now? Or does Edge step in and take most of the first team reps. Definitely something to keep an eye on. But in the end both guys will probably end up being spot starters at best.
I think its a bump personally. Edge still needs to prove he can be counted on. Is he even in playing shape yet?So does this give Julius Jones more or less value losing Duckett and gaining Edge. I mean Jones is better suited for a sharing load anyway and may get the goaline carries now? Or does Edge step in and take most of the first team reps. Definitely something to keep an eye on. But in the end both guys will probably end up being spot starters at best.
Cutting Duckett pushed me over the Edge (teehee).Picked up Edge & dropped Troy Williamson. It was bound to happen soon anyway. He IS Troy Williamson after all. Speaks volumes to how bad I believe the Brandon Marshall situation is that I'd rather keep hold of Jabar Gaffney than Troy Williamson.You'd think one of the 8 teams in my league carrying 2 (OR MORE) Defenses would've paid attention and snagged James. Idiots.Drafted on Friday -- trying to decide if Edge would be worth a pickup. I'd have to cut Tashard Choice, Jabar Gaffney, or Troy Williamson. I lack depth at WR so I'm not sure about cutting either of those guys. The 8 backs currently on my roster:Marion BarberRyan GrantWillie ParkerFred TaylorLaurence MaroneyChester TaylorShonn GreeneAnd Tashard ChoiceJust not sure if Edge has any value.
I largely agree with this assessment. Edge seems more effective in providing potential depth, some locker room experience and especially solid blocking -- not because the team believes he can outshine and push JJ for the starting role.Let's not forget that injuries to Wahle (forcing him to bow out altogether), Jones, and now Spenser have left Hasselbeck exposed in the backfield to the pass rush. Adding Edge into the mix helps add some badly needed protection on passing routes.Hey, hope I'm wrong, as I've always liked Edge, appreciated his talent and hard-nosed style. I hope he succeeds in Seattle, but I think he's coming in to fill a role, and not to become a viable part of an RBBC. Those looking to pick up Edge because they think they have a shot at starting him as a flex or viable RB3 may be disappointed, I fear.Edge was a free agent for a while and had virtually no interest from anyone until now. I don't think he is anything more than an experienced backup for a team that has playoff aspirations. I think Jones will remain the primary starter, although I am sure he will split carries with both Edge and Forsett, Jones will still get the majority IMO. I am mainly curious of what Forsett's value is now, especially for the long term.
That has less to do with Edge and more to do with Arizona's offense. Edge was the best RB on that Arizona team. Hightower had a pathetic 2.8 YPC. Arrington put up decent numbers as a change-of-pace guy, but when he started he was no better than Edge or Hightower.Give Edge 200 carries and he'll get you 1000 yards and 10 TDs.Last year, Edge opened and finished strong, little...very little in between
James is not going to average 5 yards a carry.That has less to do with Edge and more to do with Arizona's offense. Edge was the best RB on that Arizona team. Hightower had a pathetic 2.8 YPC. Arrington put up decent numbers as a change-of-pace guy, but when he started he was no better than Edge or Hightower.Give Edge 200 carries and he'll get you 1000 yards and 10 TDs.Last year, Edge opened and finished strong, little...very little in between
he opened and closed with 100 yards. In the 14 other games that Arizona played, he had 313 yards. That is horrible.That has less to do with Edge and more to do with Arizona's offense. Edge was the best RB on that Arizona team. Hightower had a pathetic 2.8 YPC. Arrington put up decent numbers as a change-of-pace guy, but when he started he was no better than Edge or Hightower.Give Edge 200 carries and he'll get you 1000 yards and 10 TDs.Last year, Edge opened and finished strong, little...very little in between
I know Edge isn't the greatest at the GL, but neither is JJ. That's how Barber got to play in the first place in DAL.But if it is committee and Jones gets the TD's it makes him a little more appealing for those games he will run for 50 yards.If the line doesnt get healthy it might not matter. Honestly, Edge is much more of a threat to JJ than Duckett was. Healthiest back likely wins but I'd say its more of a committee now than before.So does this give Julius Jones more or less value losing Duckett and gaining Edge. I mean Jones is better suited for a sharing load anyway and may get the goaline carries now? Or does Edge step in and take most of the first team reps. Definitely something to keep an eye on. But in the end both guys will probably end up being spot starters at best.
One of the things to consider, is that James wasn't going to sign anywhere he didn't have a shot to start. I don't think they guaranteed him the starting job, but I believe he will get a shot at it. It will probably be committee... but of their backs, Edge is the best.Edgerrin James lands in Seattle per profootball talkWhat does this mean? Is he a starter or backup?
I'm assuming this is speculation given the rest of your post? I think it makes a big difference in Jones' prospects (especially with Duckett now gone) if this was his first real offer.One of the things to consider, is that James wasn't going to sign anywhere he didn't have a shot to start. I don't think they guaranteed him the starting job, but I believe he will get a shot at it. It will probably be committee... but of their backs, Edge is the best.Edgerrin James lands in Seattle per profootball talk
What does this mean? Is he a starter or backup?
IMHO, he went unsigned precisely because he wasn't willing to accept a backup role. This signing coupled with Duckett's release tells me that James will be the starting/primary RB for Seattle this year. He could easily finish in the top 25.Edge was a free agent for a while and had virtually no interest from anyone until now. I don't think he is anything more than an experienced backup for a team that has playoff aspirations. I think Jones will remain the primary starter, although I am sure he will split carries with both Edge and Forsett, Jones will still get the majority IMO. I am mainly curious of what Forsett's value is now, especially for the long term.