EG72 First round mock, pick by pick (1 Viewer)

[Evilgrin 72]

Shortly, I will begin my 2010 mock draft. Only rather than do it in advance and post it this time, I'm going to go pick by pick in this thread to give homers a chance to shout out their wants for each pick. I have a pre-determined pick in mind at each selection, but will be willing to change this if the FBG consensus is that the team will go in a different direction. So feel free to voice your opinions strongly, you may just influence the mock.

The St. Louis Rams are on the clock. Do they go with the franchise QB or the stud DT?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

1. St. Louis - Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma

2. Detroit – Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska

3. Tampa Bay – Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma

4. Washington – Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma St.

5. Kansas City – Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa

6. Seattle – Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma

7. Cleveland – Eric Berry, S, Tennessee

8. Oakland – Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers

9. Buffalo – Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame

10. Jacksonville – Sergio Kindle, LB, Texas

11. Denver (from Chicago) - Rolando McClain, LB, Alabama

12. Miami - Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee

13. San Francisco - Joe Haden, CB, Florida

14. Seattle (from Denver) - Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech

15. New York Giants - Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri

16. Tennessee - Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida

17. San Francisco (from Carolina) - Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho

18. Pittsburgh - C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson

19. Atlanta - Brandon Graham, DE, Michigan

20. Houston - Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise St.

21. Cincinnati - Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma St.

22. Cleveland (from New England) - Jared Odrick, DE, Penn St.

23. Green Bay - Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers

24. Philadelphia - Earl Thomas, S, Texas

25. Baltimore - Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma

26. Arizona - Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland

27. Dallas - Taylor Mays, S, USC

28. San Diego - Ryan Mathews, RB, Fresno State

29. New York Jets - Demaryius Thomas, WR, Georgia Tech

30. Minnesota - Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida

31. Indianapolis - Charles Brown, OT, USC

32. New Orleans - Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida

 

[Evilgrin 72]

With the first pick of the 2010 NFL Draft, the St. Louis Rams select.... Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma.

When it comes down to it, the release of Bulger is probably a harbinger. If the Rams like what they see in the April 19th private workout (and all signs are that they will,) they'll commit the big $$ to the QB rather than a DT. I think this is a mistake, personally, but I also think it's the direction in which the Rams will go.

Detroit is on the clock - Suh? McCoy? Okung?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Maybe this was a lousy idea... heh heh.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I'm no homer, but Im going to chime in anyway - after passing on Ryan and Sanchez, the Rams should take the possible franchise QB and snag Bradford.

 

[Ridgelake]

Miay I suggest you just post your mock at once instead of having everyone come in 100 times to see where their team is? Might save a bit of hassle.

 

[bighandsray]

I like the concept of your mock. Detroit should take Okung. The NFL is a passing league, they must protect Stafford.

 

[munchkin]

Miay I suggest you just post your mock at once instead of having everyone come in 100 times to see where their team is? Might save a bit of hassle.

I actually like the premise but it might be difficult to follow. Maybe if you did it in a group or so. That way folks could chime in and you could (hopefully) adjust accordingly.I have come around on the Bradford pick though i think that a player like Suh or McCoy would make the rest of the players on the Rams defense better especially Long. If Long's pass rush could improve and the line gets stouter against the run the Offense wouldn't have to overcome such large deficits. They have a good running game and if their crop of receivers stay healthy they could be productive in the Offensive side of the ball.

 

[munchkin]

I like the concept of your mock. Detroit should take Okung. The NFL is a passing league, they must protect Stafford.

What he said.

 

[Cassius]

I think the new DET front office showed last year that they're interested in BPA, specifically when they passed on Oher at 20 to take Pettigrew. Suh is easily the BPA here, and also fills a need and the Lions' current LT, Backus, is adequate. I really think Suh will be the pick here, no doubt.

ETA: I like this format, don't post everything at once, we have dozens of those mocks.

 

[Lehigh98]

Miay I suggest you just post your mock at once instead of having everyone come in 100 times to see where their team is? Might save a bit of hassle.

On the other hand, this may generate a little more commentary after each pick.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Miay I suggest you just post your mock at once instead of having everyone come in 100 times to see where their team is? Might save a bit of hassle.

I actually like the premise but it might be difficult to follow. Maybe if you did it in a group or so. That way folks could chime in and you could (hopefully) adjust accordingly.I have come around on the Bradford pick though i think that a player like Suh or McCoy would make the rest of the players on the Rams defense better especially Long. If Long's pass rush could improve and the line gets stouter against the run the Offense wouldn't have to overcome such large deficits. They have a good running game and if their crop of receivers stay healthy they could be productive in the Offensive side of the ball.

Maybe I'll do this. OK, here are the next 4 picks, let me know where you all agree/disagree.1. St. Louis - Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma2. Detroit – Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska3. Tampa Bay – Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma4. Washington – Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma St.5. Kansas City – Bryan Bulaga, OT, IowaI figure the Rams will go for the QB. Detroit will seriously consider Okung to protect Bradford, but eventually will realize Suh is the much better prospect and a decent OT can be had in round 2. McCoy to the Bucs becomes a no-brainer at #3, IMO. Washington goes with a great intersection of need/value with Okung at #4 and KC passes on Berry to take the most versatile T/G prospect available with the hopes of being able to play with Bulaga and Albert to find the best line they can put together.

 

[bighandsray]

I think the Chiefs will trade down and one of the next 5 or so teams will come up and get Claussen. I only see Berry as worthy of the 5 pick but not for the Chiefs. They will be better off dropping down and grabbing a tackle a few picks later.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I think the Chiefs will trade down and one of the next 5 or so teams will come up and get Claussen. I only see Berry as worthy of the 5 pick but not for the Chiefs. They will be better off dropping down and grabbing a tackle a few picks later.

Agree this is a distinct possibility, but I usually don't project trades, There is one notable exception in my mock, but we won't get to that until the 20s.

 

[39407]

After trading for Sims, there's little doubt in my mind that the Lions will pick their favored DT in the first (or trade down if possible).

 

[Evilgrin 72]

OK, unless there's any uproar, I'll post 1-5 as final and move on to 6-10

I have a meeting for about 30 minutes or so starting in 5, so please discuss picks #6-10 while I'm away and I'll make any necessary changes when I return.

 

[39407]

take the possible franchise QB and snag Bradford.

Almost a no-brainer even.

 

[39407]

OK, unless there's any uproar, I'll post 1-5 as final and move on to 6-10 I have a meeting for about 30 minutes or so starting in 5, so please discuss picks #6-10 while I'm away and I'll make any necessary changes when I return.

I liked the one pick at a time approach better, but its your thread and we only have 16 days 2 hrs 30 min left to complete it

 

[Evilgrin 72]

6. Seattle – Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma

7. Cleveland – Eric Berry, S, Tennessee

8. Oakland – Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland

9. Buffalo – Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame

10. Jacksonville – Sergio Kindle, LB, Texas

Seattle desperately needs to replace Jones and the run on tackles is happening early as usual. Williams is a riser and his combine performance solidified him as an early 1st rounder. Cleveland has greater needs than S, but I can't imagine they expected Berry to fall into their laps and they take him. Oakland needs an OT, and this is the perfect intersection of need and a prospect with measurables that Big Al can't resist. Buffalo finally finds their QB without moving up, and Jacksonville eschews an end after signing Kampman and goes for their biggest need, OLB. In their 4-3 front, I think a disruptor like Kindle is a much better fit than a pure pass-rusher like Pierre-Paul (most often projected to JAX, probably due to proximity of the college.)

 

[Evilgrin 72]

OK, unless there's any uproar, I'll post 1-5 as final and move on to 6-10 I have a meeting for about 30 minutes or so starting in 5, so please discuss picks #6-10 while I'm away and I'll make any necessary changes when I return.

I liked the one pick at a time approach better, but its your thread and we only have 16 days 2 hrs 30 min left to complete it

Me too, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of interest in it.

 

[39407]

Me too, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of interest in it.

Its been up for an hour no reason to panic yet, after all there are some people who doesnt realize that keeping you amused should have priority

 

[Stinkin Ref]

didn't get in in time, but if KC does not trade down....I just can't see them passing on Berry.....Berry could be a fixture in that secondary for years....one of the few can't miss guys IMO

 

[39407]

didn't get in in time, but if KC does not trade down....I just can't see them passing on Berry.....Berry could be a fixture in that secondary for years....one of the few can't miss guys IMO

I agree... Maybe EG can be pursuaded to change it back to the original format.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Me too, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of interest in it.

Its been up for an hour no reason to panic yet, after all there are some people who doesnt realize that keeping you amused should have priority

It's not a matter of keeping me amused, I already know all the picks. Trying to keep the Shark Pool amused.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

didn't get in in time, but if KC does not trade down....I just can't see them passing on Berry.....Berry could be a fixture in that secondary for years....one of the few can't miss guys IMO

I was torn on that one, but I felt the need on the OL was as great or greater than secondary, and it's a position where #5 money is typically better spent. Are you comfortable committing about $7m per year and about $25-30mil guaranteed to a safety? That's more than Polamalu makes.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

If people really want it, I'll switch back to pick by pick, starting with #11.

 

[munchkin]

didn't get in in time, but if KC does not trade down....I just can't see them passing on Berry.....Berry could be a fixture in that secondary for years....one of the few can't miss guys IMO

I was torn on that one, but I felt the need on the OL was as great or greater than secondary, and it's a position where #5 money is typically better spent. Are you comfortable committing about $7m per year and about $25-30mil guaranteed to a safety? That's more than Polamalu makes.

This is a pretty deep safety class. Top notch O-Line help is harder to come by.

 

[anakin]

8. Oakland – Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland everyone is going this way with Oakland. Al is crazy, but not this crazy as he goes OT Anthony Davis-less mature, but certainly more talented than Campbell

 

[39407]

Deep OL class too, no? KC should go with BPA regardless of position imo. I figure Berry to be more of a sure thing than Bulaga, but I'm fairly clueless about the business side of things I must admit.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

didn't get in in time, but if KC does not trade down....I just can't see them passing on Berry.....Berry could be a fixture in that secondary for years....one of the few can't miss guys IMO

I was torn on that one, but I felt the need on the OL was as great or greater than secondary, and it's a position where #5 money is typically better spent. Are you comfortable committing about $7m per year and about $25-30mil guaranteed to a safety? That's more than Polamalu makes.

This is a pretty deep safety class. Top notch O-Line help is harder to come by.

That's my thinking as well. I'm one who believes Berry is probably a top-3 talent, but the fact is, safeties don't often get picked that high. I think Cleveland at #7 is as far as he'll fall because he's so gifted, but I think KC will go line.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

8. Oakland – Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland everyone is going this way with Oakland. Al is crazy, but not this crazy as he goes OT Anthony Davis-less mature, but certainly more talented than Campbell

I've actually seen Davis projected here more than Campbell. In fact, I originally had Davis here (and I agree, he's a better prospect) but I think when all is said and done, Campbell will be the pick. Al definitely is that crazy (see Heyward-Bey, 2009)

 

[JoeSteeler]

If people really want it, I'll switch back to pick by pick, starting with #11.

Yes please

 

[Evilgrin 72]

If people really want it, I'll switch back to pick by pick, starting with #11.

Yes please

OK, will do. I'll try to be less impatient.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Davis or Campbell at #8 seems to be the one sticking point in the 6-10 picks. I'll change it to Davis if most people think the Raiders will go this way, I had that pick originally and changed it.

Any comments on Kindle at #10? It's a pick I don't think I'd seen in a mock yet (admittedly I haven't read many) so I thought that might spur some debate.

 

[Getinthemix]

If people really want it, I'll switch back to pick by pick, starting with #11.

 

[Getinthemix]

didn't get in in time, but if KC does not trade down....I just can't see them passing on Berry.....Berry could be a fixture in that secondary for years....one of the few can't miss guys IMO

I was torn on that one, but I felt the need on the OL was as great or greater than secondary, and it's a position where #5 money is typically better spent. Are you comfortable committing about $7m per year and about $25-30mil guaranteed to a safety? That's more than Polamalu makes.

I agree. He will make more than Polamalu and you are hoping he is 80% of the player TP is. just does not make sense to me for a safety to go that high. I said the same thing last year about Aaron Curry. A 4-3 outside LB should not be in the top 2-3 LB'ers in pay. Top paid LB'ers rush the passer in the 3-4. These kind of decisions can really hamstring a teams salary cap, if it comes back.

 

[JoeSteeler]

Davis or Campbell at #8 seems to be the one sticking point in the 6-10 picks. I'll change it to Davis if most people think the Raiders will go this way, I had that pick originally and changed it.Any comments on Kindle at #10? It's a pick I don't think I'd seen in a mock yet (admittedly I haven't read many) so I thought that might spur some debate.

Another vote for Davis

 

[RaiderBones]

Davis or Campbell at #8 seems to be the one sticking point in the 6-10 picks. I'll change it to Davis if most people think the Raiders will go this way, I had that pick originally and changed it.Any comments on Kindle at #10? It's a pick I don't think I'd seen in a mock yet (admittedly I haven't read many) so I thought that might spur some debate.

Another vote for Davis

Davis for sure.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

OK, I'm going to go back to Davis for #8. Enough sentiment agreeing with me on Bulaga at #5 for me not to switch KC's pick to Berry. If there's no dissenters on Kindle at #10 in the next 5-10 minutes, I'm going to finalize these picks (switching Davis in for Campbell at #8) and go onto pick 11, re-starting the one-at-a-time format.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Pick #11 is Denver's - any Bronco fans/draft geeks want to detail what they believe Denver's draft needs to be?

 

[Spike]

take the possible franchise QB and snag Bradford.

Almost a no-brainer even.

Was it a mistake for the Rams to dump Bulger now? I would think this allows Bradford's representatives, in contract negotiations prior to the draft, to say have the upper hand in a massive way.

 

[munchkin]

A lot of mocks have Dan Williams here which makes sense given the age and ability along their D Line. There is really good depth at Linebacker in this draft. McClain would be a nice pick but they might be able to address that later. Williams learning from Williams could help this D out quite a bit.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

No one thinks Kindle is better suited to be an OLB in a 3-4? I kind of do, but projected him to Jacksoville anyway, becuase of the 3-4 OLB prosepcts, I think Kindle has the athleticism and run stuffing ability to be a versatile 4-3 OLB.

ETA : Also, this draft seems to be very thin on elite pure 4-3 OLB types. Most are guys who project to DE in a 4-3 or OLB in a 3-4.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

A lot of mocks have Dan Williams here which makes sense given the age and ability along their D Line. There is really good depth at Linebacker in this draft. McClain would be a nice pick but they might be able to address that later. Williams learning from Williams could help this D out quite a bit.

Those were the exact two guys I debated here. One of them is the pick.

 

[39407]

take the possible franchise QB and snag Bradford.

Almost a no-brainer even.

Was it a mistake for the Rams to dump Bulger now? I would think this allows Bradford's representatives, in contract negotiations prior to the draft, to say have the upper hand in a massive way.

Apparantly no one believed anyway, that Bulger was going to start any games this season

 

[Evilgrin 72]

OK, picks 6-10 are set in stone now.

With the 11th pick of the 2010 NFL draft, the Denver Broncos select.. Rolando McClain, LB, Alabama.

As the New York Giants fans collectively groan, Denver chooses the polished, super-talented ILB from Alabama. While not the physical specimen Patrick Willis is, he could easily be another DeMeco Ryans, or better. I went with McClain here although DT is a more coveted position than ILB because some are not sold on Williams, whereas McClain is about as sure a thing as you can find here, thanks to his super-high football IQ, leadership ability, and non-stop motor.

 

[39407]

No idea if the homers will agree, but I love that pick for Denver.

 

[Getinthemix]

take the possible franchise QB and snag Bradford.

Almost a no-brainer even.

Was it a mistake for the Rams to dump Bulger now? I would think this allows Bradford's representatives, in contract negotiations prior to the draft, to say have the upper hand in a massive way.

The first pick in the draft always has the upper hand in a massive way. People thought that Miami would have the upper hand in the Jake Long negotiations. Wrong. He signed for 5 years, IIRC the first #1 overall to sign for less than six and immediately became the highest paid OL in the league. The #1 pick always gets what they want.

 

[smashingsilver]

No one thinks Kindle is better suited to be an OLB in a 3-4? I kind of do, but projected him to Jacksoville anyway, becuase of the 3-4 OLB prosepcts, I think Kindle has the athleticism and run stuffing ability to be a versatile 4-3 OLB.ETA : Also, this draft seems to be very thin on elite pure 4-3 OLB types. Most are guys who project to DE in a 4-3 or OLB in a 3-4.

I would be surprised if Jacksonville went for an SLB in the 4-3 given all their other weaknesses on the defensive side. I'm thinking either Morgan or JPP as a 4-3 end or Haden for the secondary would be greater needs at this slot.As for Denver, McClain seems to be the logical selection with such a gaping hole in the lineup, but don't rule out Iupati to upgrade Denver's poor interior line blocking. There's a huge talent gap between him and everyone else at OG.

 

[Getinthemix]

OK, picks 6-10 are set in stone now.With the 11th pick of the 2010 NFL draft, the Denver Broncos select.. Rolando McClain, LB, Alabama.As the New York Giants fans collectively groan, Denver chooses the polished, super-talented ILB from Alabama. While not the physical specimen Patrick Willis is, he could easily be another DeMeco Ryans, or better. I went with McClain here although DT is a more coveted position than ILB because some are not sold on Williams, whereas McClain is about as sure a thing as you can find here, thanks to his super-high football IQ, leadership ability, and non-stop motor.

I really think you have to give thought to Brandon Graham, or Kindle(who is gone in this mock). Give them another pure pass rusher on the outside and pressure the QB. I really think it comes down to Graham/Kindle/Dan Williams for this pick. Two pass rushers or a NT.