Elementary (1 Viewer)

[Bob Magaw]

didn't see a thread...

discovered relatively recently... my brother mentioned it in passing around holidays (last thanksgiving or this easter?)...

i think i saw last episode of last season, and than some reruns in summer (this season only about two episodes so far)...

if anybody hasn't seen (there was a good review in fall season thread, extending back to last year), it is a contemporary retelling of sherlock holmes... i have found it pretty well done...

the producers claim no connection, but also (even more) highly recommended are the BBC productions (titled Sherlock, i think?), also a contemporary retelling, starring the actor who was bad guy in star trek into darkness... he seems to be pretty popular these days, also lead in upcoming wikileaks dramatization fifth estate...

there are currently six episodes of the BBC production so far, all avail streaming netflix... three comprises a "season" (i think they are about 90 minutes each, so nearly theatrical feature investment of development time, caliber of writing, production values, etc.)... reportedly the next installment of three is in the can, pending air dates (on BBC, not sure about delay or interval for netflix streaming, if any... maybe later this year or in 2014?)...

* Elementary on thur night, check local times/listings...

 

[Sinn Fein]

My favorite drama on regular tv

 

[Rohn Jambo]

It's no Breaking Bad but I like Jonny Lee Miller.

 

[rodg12]

Quality show. I also just started watching this recently and really enjoy it.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

Big fan, loves me some Watson.

 

[Hawks64]

It's a really enjoyable show, good drama. Won't win any awards but it's better than a lot of the other drivel on TV right now.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

It's a really enjoyable show, good drama. Won't win any awards but it's better than a lot of the other drivel on TV right now.

Great show. Miller and Liu have a great chemistry.

 

[Bob Magaw]

Big fan, loves me some Watson.

lucy liu was great in kill bill, and more recent RZA helmed man with the iron fists...

* it is funny, but for a while i was thinking lead was aidan quinn...

wasn't familiar with the lead's previous work (obviously), but he is talented...

good choice for watson and arch villian, criminal master mind and nemesis moriarty (didn't see the latter coming) in making more contemporary...

on BBC side, which showcases outstanding writing (another great moriarty, and one of the greatest twists i've ever seen at end of sixth episode, currently last but three more in the pipe), the creative/production/writing team said they struggled with not wanting holmes' exposition and explanations to sound like lectures, but gradually realized that was probably the best way to do it, and it works in that context (where he is clearly the smartest guy in the room, and you are compelled to follow where his deductive process leads)...

 

[bryhamm]

It's a really enjoyable show, good drama. Won't win any awards but it's better than a lot of the other drivel on TV right now.

Great show. Miller and Liu have a great chemistry.

 

[Bob Magaw]

i had seen the movie hackers a few times, but didn't put it together until reading his bio that i had already seen him when he was younger, but didn't recognize him in elementary (he looks kind of the same, but voice a lot different - he was only 23 in '95)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql1uLyuWra8

bernard lee, "M" in first 11 bond movies, was his maternal grandfather...

he won an award in a british theatrical production by danny boyle of frankenstein, in which on alternate nights, he would trade places with benedict cumberbatch (lead in BBC sherlock) playing scientist and monster.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

i had seen the movie hackers a few times, but didn't put it together until reading his bio that i had already seen him when he was younger, but didn't recognize him in elementary

I had the same exact reaction, but instead it was for the movie "Trainspotting". It took me awhile to place the pasty, chunky, platinum-haired dude.

Other than the receding hairline, Miller looks a lot better today pushing forty than he did in his mid-twenties.

 

[The Dude]

Who is still watching? last three episodes have been painful.

Like this week, how does the guy planting cameras in the woman's hotel an alibi?

 

[Bob Magaw]

Who is still watching? last three episodes have been painful.

Like this week, how does the guy planting cameras in the woman's hotel an alibi?

I didn't watch Thur., but have liked the other episodes as much as last season?

Still one of my favorite shows with Castle, Black List and Almost Human on Mon. and 5-0 Fri.

Besides, the only way to get a Sherlock fix until BBC season 4, probably not until 2015.

* SHERLOCK SPOILER

I thought there was a plot hole you could drive a giant combine harverster through at the end of seasn. He couldn't have expected his ruse to work if Moriarty was there to see it, yet he had know way to know he WOULDN'T be there to see it?

 

[Green and Gold]

Who is still watching? last three episodes have been painful.

Like this week, how does the guy planting cameras in the woman's hotel an alibi?

I didn't watch Thur., but have liked the other episodes as much as last season?

Still one of my favorite shows with Castle, Black List and Almost Human on Mon. and 5-0 Fri.

Besides, the only way to get a Sherlock fix until BBC season 4, probably not until 2015.

* SHERLOCK SPOILER

I thought there was a plot hole you could drive a giant combine harverster through at the end of seasn. He couldn't have expected his ruse to work if Moriarty was there to see it, yet he had know way to know he WOULDN'T be there to see it?

Spoiler

If I remember correctly, he had 13 possible scenario's mapped on how everything would play out. He only texted the 'code' to put the plot in motion after Moriarty was dead. I'm guessing that a different code would have been sent out surreptitiously if he was still alive.

 

[Bob Magaw]

SHERLOCK SPOILER

Good point, I forgot that. Though I doubt any of the scenarios involved Moriarty offing himself, and since there were three strategically placed snipers trained on his three closest friends without him being able to warn them (he didn't know about the snipers before the roof and couldn't have warned them previously - tap out warning codes with his smart phone in his pocket, far fetched?), and the snipers ordered to kill them if Sherlock didn't jump, not obvious how he would have extricated himself (as I recall, maybe his plan was to use Moriarty as a hostage or cross-leverage, but he would have had to get the better of him with Moriarty holding the gun, and I don't think Sherlock carries one, in order to prevent Moriarty from issuing a go ahead signal - maybe knock him out and he wakes up in Jack Bauer's office , I forgot if there was some kind of deadman's deadline or activation timing, beside visual confirmation of Sherlock jumping?).

 

[daddo39]

Having read a lot of Conan Doyle as a boy and staying up late on Saturday nights watching the old Basil Rathbone movies I love this show. Took me about 4 episodes to figure out JLM was in Dexter

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

I still watch, still think it's good.

They seem to abandon story arcs quickly. The lieutenant is having marital trouble, which maybe leads to unethical behavior--then all of a sudden he's a happily married man. The young cop blames his injury on Holmes' recklessness, rages at Holmes--then two episodes later they are buddies again.

They set up Lucy Liu's father as a potential arc, but I wouldn't be surprised if we never hear of it again.

 

[Bob Magaw]

I still watch, still think it's good.

They seem to abandon story arcs quickly. The lieutenant is having marital trouble, which maybe leads to unethical behavior--then all of a sudden he's a happily married man. The young cop blames his injury on Holmes' recklessness, rages at Holmes--then two episodes later they are buddies again.

They set up Lucy Liu's father as a potential arc, but I wouldn't be surprised if we never hear of it again.

I prefer BC in Sherlock, but I do like JLM's interpretation (he also does the sociopathic Aspbergers riff, but differently) , and it fills the lengthy gaps in between Sherlock seasons. It is possible that some viewers, if they like Sherlock, would also like Elementary.

 

[GregR]

Odd thing. The moment Kitty talks about breaking her attacker's fingers, I rewound to the scene of Watson getting Dell's help with the medical history database to check his hands, as I suspected it was going to be him. Sure enough there was a deformed bulge on his left hand at the base of his pinky, and he does a lot of talking with his hands in the scene as if to make it more prominent.

Then I jump back forward all proud of myself, and they reveal it. Nuts.

But then in that call, Dell is holding the phone with his left hand and his fingers look fine.