Eli Manning's Schedule (1 Viewer)

[LHUCKS]

Sep 10 Indianapolis 8:15pm

Sep 17 @Philadelphia 1:00pm

Sep 24 @Seattle 4:15pm

Week 4 BYE

Oct 8 Washington 1:00pm

Oct 15 @Atlanta 1:00pm

Oct 23 @Dallas 8:30pm

Oct 29 Tampa Bay 2:00pm

Nov 5 Houston 2:00pm

Nov 12 Chicago 2:00pm

Nov 20 @Jacksonville 9:30pm

Nov 26 @Tennessee 2:00pm

Dec 3 Dallas 2:00pm

Dec 10 @Carolina 2:00pm

Dec 17 Philadelphia 2:00pm

Dec 24 New Orleans 2:00pm

Dec 30 @Washington 9:00pm

 

[cstu]

You could also red Indy and Philly.

 

[LHUCKS]

You could also red Indy and Philly.

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Yeah...Philly had a down year defensively and Indy should be hilighted. Brutal schedule.

 

[Blackjacks]

- and +'s here. I'm a glass half full instead of half empty kind of guy. When a team has a cake schedule they can get up quick and not see any passing plays in the second half (see Hasselbeck in 2005.) Atleast this way it looks like Manning will be passing for all 4 quarters for most of the year.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

For a point of reference, DAL, PHI, and WAS schedules are 75% the same as the giants, the same but without CHI, SEA (not trivial), and of course, the NYG instead of themselves.

brutal year for the NFC east.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Agreed. When this came out, I thought to myself this was the 2006 version of the 2005 San Diego schedule. Ouch.

J

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

You could also red Indy and Philly.

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And, for fantasy purposes, the bye.

 

[Mike Herman]

Obviously it's not just limited to QB. I was running numbers on how the schedule matchups impact kicker projections. The biggest points dropoff from last year was far and away the Giants.

 

[Couch Potato]

Looking at the defense rankings and how tough the NYG schedule is, it makes me think the 4 staff who have their D in the top-8 might want to reconsider. Same with the Philly D ranking, with 6 staff ranking them in the top-8. I just don't see racking up those kinds of defensive points without a sufficient number of patsies on the schedule.

Compare the NYG schedule, for example, to New England, who gets the Jets times 2, the Bills times 2, Hou, Ten, all teams from the NFC North (GB, Chi, Min, Det). That's 10 games against bad and/or turnover-prone offenses. Add Cin and Mia in weeks 4 and 5 with both QBs perhaps missing or very iffy. That leaves only Jac, Den, Ind and the 2nd Mia game that aren't good from a DT owner standpoint. I think the NE defense will be much better than last year's injury-racked bunch, and will easily outperform their current ranking of #14. Way to go Bloom, who has them at #5 - just where I have them.

 

[Scorehoard]

Are these based on last yrs. defensive rankings? If not then let us have a run down of 06' Defensive projections that have off season movement accounted for.

and yes at first glance this looks horrible BUT every year we have teams that fluctuate in several different fashions. Philly one year is near the top then last year plunked..... Dallas went from Bad to good..... Seattle went from bad to good.... Buffalo went from really good to really bad...... Its tough to predict these strength of schedules other than soley basing it on last yrs. numbers. I will also take the stand that this year is an even tougher season to predict based on the over abundance of coaching changes. Who will buy into the system? Who won't? Lastly, injuries will mount for some teams while at a minimum for others. A big pet peeve of mine on here is so many are hesitant about liking someone bc they THINK they will be hurt. None of us can predict that... i.e. Who predicted McNabb would be hurt last season? Injury plagued Brunell, he made it through... The Giants have a decent cast of defense themselves. I could see 4 or 5 highlighted games being lopsided in the Giants' favor.

 

[Verbal Kint]

I'm inclined to notch Tiki down a few spots from RB5.

 

[LHUCKS]

I'm inclined to notch Tiki down a few spots from RB5.

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That's what I did after my first run through the team schedules...and nobody has pimped Tiki more than I have the last couple of years.

 

[Gold Plated Nails]

Agreed. When this came out, I thought to myself this was the 2006 version of the 2005 San Diego schedule. Ouch.

J

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Are they playing 3 or 4 teams comming off their Bye weeks? 5 West Coast Roadies? If so then I'd agree.Either way 8 wins is the ceiling looking at that schedule.

 

[Jason Wood]

This is why Eli ranks 8th in my rankings. The kid had a solid fantasy season last year, but he only completed 52% of his passes (3rd worst in the league among regular starters :X ), and threw 17 INTs (tied for 2nd worst alongside Bledsoe) and then gets this schedule.

 

[LHUCKS]

This is why Eli ranks 8th in my rankings. The kid had a solid fantasy season last year, but he only completed 52% of his passes (3rd worst in the league among regular starters :X ), and threw 17 INTs (tied for 2nd worst alongside Bledsoe) and then gets this schedule.

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I had him ranked 2nd one week ago before I did my in depth schedule analysis. I still have him ranked in my second tier, but the more I look at this schedule the more I'm liking your ranking Wood.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

This is why Eli ranks 8th in my rankings. The kid had a solid fantasy season last year, but he only completed 52% of his passes (3rd worst in the league among regular starters :X ), and threw 17 INTs (tied for 2nd worst alongside Bledsoe) and then gets this schedule.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I also dont like that his level of play went down as the year went on - You would expect the opposite from a 2nd year QB.

 

[Koya]

I'm inclined to notch Tiki down a few spots from RB5.

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That's what I did after my first run through the team schedules...and nobody has pimped Tiki more than I have the last couple of years.
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Please, keep doing this. Just like last year. And the year before.

 

[Koya]

This is why Eli ranks 8th in my rankings. The kid had a solid fantasy season last year, but he only completed 52% of his passes (3rd worst in the league among regular starters :X ), and threw 17 INTs (tied for 2nd worst alongside Bledsoe) and then gets this schedule.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I also dont like that his level of play went down as the year went on - You would expect the opposite from a 2nd year QB.
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You mean a first year starter? Last season was the first full 16 game season for Eli. Fatigue - especially mental - sets in at that point.Expect Eli to continue to progress.

As far as the schedule, these are not a bunch of definate shut down D's. They will be tough games, but that only means the Giants may be behind more often, and in passing situations. I dont think the schedule hurts Eli's value nor the passing games much.

It may have some effect on Tiki., but the guy is a stud even if people still refuse to give him enough credit. Most likely the schedule will have more of a football record effect than fantasy effect, imo.

 

[LHUCKS]

I'm inclined to notch Tiki down a few spots from RB5.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

That's what I did after my first run through the team schedules...and nobody has pimped Tiki more than I have the last couple of years.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Please, keep doing this. Just like last year. And the year before.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I had Tiki ranked higher than everyone last year...I drafted him in over half of my FBG related leagues.

 

[Koya]

I'm inclined to notch Tiki down a few spots from RB5.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

That's what I did after my first run through the team schedules...and nobody has pimped Tiki more than I have the last couple of years.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Please, keep doing this. Just like last year. And the year before.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I had Tiki ranked higher than everyone last year...I drafted him in over half of my FBG related leagues.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

HTH am I supposed to know what you particularly did. I was just referring to the annual trend to find fault with Tiki which always pushes him down the draft into a great value pick.

 

[Jason Wood]

This is why Eli ranks 8th in my rankings. The kid had a solid fantasy season last year, but he only completed 52% of his passes (3rd worst in the league among regular starters :X ), and threw 17 INTs (tied for 2nd worst alongside Bledsoe) and then gets this schedule.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I also dont like that his level of play went down as the year went on - You would expect the opposite from a 2nd year QB.
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Bledsoe and Manning's seasons were similar in several ways...both had 17 INTs, and both saw their play erode as the season wore on.

Eli's Passer Rating by Month

[*]September -- 88.7

[*]October -- 80.3

[*]November -- 77.7

[*]December -- 64.1

Bledsoe's Passer Rating by Month

[*]September -- 103.7

[*]October -- 93.1

[*]November -- 77.1

[*]December -- 71.4

Although both have tough schedules (on paper) this year, the reasons I'm more confident that Bledsoe will have a strong year are threefold. One, Bledsoe's deterioration coincided with a deteriorating offensive line, but Flozell Adams is back and they added Kosier and Fabini. Two, Bledsoe played at a higher level last year, his baseline is more encouraging. Three, Bledsoe adds Terrell Owens to his arsenal.

 

[LHUCKS]

One, Bledsoe's deterioration coincided with a deteriorating offensive line, but Flozell Adams is back and they added Kosier and Fabini. Two, Bledsoe played at a higher level last year, his baseline is more encouraging. Three, Bledsoe adds Terrell Owens to his arsenal.

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Very

 

[SSOG]

You could also red Indy and Philly.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yeah...Philly had a down year defensively and Indy should be hilighted. Brutal schedule.

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Philly *definitely* deserves to be highlighted with Lito coming back. Two years ago they sent 3/4s of their secondary to the pro bowl (and the fourth member was, in my opinion, snubbed). Not a fun place to play for a QB with a 52% completion percentage.

This is why Eli ranks 8th in my rankings. The kid had a solid fantasy season last year, but he only completed 52% of his passes (3rd worst in the league among regular starters :X ), and threw 17 INTs (tied for 2nd worst alongside Bledsoe) and then gets this schedule.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I also dont like that his level of play went down as the year went on - You would expect the opposite from a 2nd year QB.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Bledsoe and Manning's seasons were similar in several ways...both had 17 INTs, and both saw their play erode as the season wore on.

Eli's Passer Rating by Month

[*]September -- 88.7

[*]October -- 80.3

[*]November -- 77.7

[*]December -- 64.1

Bledsoe's Passer Rating by Month

[*]September -- 103.7

[*]October -- 93.1

[*]November -- 77.1

[*]December -- 71.4

Although both have tough schedules (on paper) this year, the reasons I'm more confident that Bledsoe will have a strong year are threefold. One, Bledsoe's deterioration coincided with a deteriorating offensive line, but Flozell Adams is back and they added Kosier and Fabini. Two, Bledsoe played at a higher level last year, his baseline is more encouraging. Three, Bledsoe adds Terrell Owens to his arsenal.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Another thing worth mentioning... Eli's (relatively) "good" play at the beginning of last season was an aberration of historical magnitude. There was an article written last year about how no one in the history of the NFL had ever had so few interceptions paired with such a low completion percentage. During the second half of the season, his INT numbers, as predicted, caught up (or down, in this case) with his completion percentage. Unless he became substantially more accurate this offseason, I expect his numbers to more closely resemble the second-half numbers from last year than the first-half.

 

[ThisGuy]

*****Warning***** Do not downgrade TIKI!!

Every year he gets downgraded and just beats up other teams. First it was Ron Dayne, then it was a fluke season, then there was no way he'd do it again, now it's a "brutal schedule".

You are making a mistake.

 

[ThisGuy]

PS, the Giants have a pretty damn good defense in their own right. That should lead to a few scoring chance weekly

 

[crowe1130]

The first thing I did when the schedule came out was swear I wouldn't spend too high on any Giants. I've personally loved picking up Tiki later than he should have been available the last few years, but my gut tells me this team could start 0-5 or worse.

 

[Sinrman]

Agreed. When this came out, I thought to myself this was the 2006 version of the 2005 San Diego schedule. Ouch.

J

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

That's EXACTLY what I thought. Which highlights how impressive the Chargers were under Brees' leadership, just missing the playoffs, despite playing such a brutal schedule. If Rivers can really step it up, this team is primed for a big run this year.Manning is going to continue with the growing pains with a schedule like that. I've been down on him since he was in college, but if he can have a semi-decent season this year with a schedule like that, I would definitely be impressed...

 

[(HULK)]

You mean a first year starter?  Last season was the first full 16 game season for Eli.  Fatigue - especially mental - sets in at that point.

Expect Eli to continue to progress.

As far as the schedule, these are not a bunch of definate shut down D's.  They will be tough games, but that only means the Giants may be behind more often, and in passing situations.  I dont think the schedule hurts Eli's value nor the passing games much.

It may have some effect on Tiki., but the guy is a stud even if people still refuse to give him enough credit.  Most likely the schedule will have more of a football record effect than fantasy effect, imo.

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Very

 

[Rubi]

Good gravy! Maybe the Giants should just sit out this year and hope for better things next year. Don't forget we're talking about the defending NFC East(toughest division in the NFL?) Champs here. Sure they had a playoff burp against Carolina but this is a darn good team that's helped itself where it needed help. The Giants fared pretty well aginst their division last year and should be very competative again this year,they can beat every NFC East team at home,if they can STEAL 1 win against the division on the road they'll be fine. You don't think The Giants are a better team right now than Jacksonville,Tampa and Chicago? Remember,they play these games ONE AT A TIME,they don't play everyone every week. Shy away from some of the Giants if you wish,I'll gladly take Tiki,Burress,Shockey and even Manning. Remember those HUGE offensive #'s The Jags put up last year with their SOFT schedule and the AWFUL totals The Chargers had with that BRUTAL schedule. Be careful not to over analyze.

 

[DOVCommish]

I threw up in my mouth when this schedule was announced... 7-9 would be a good season.

They got to the playoffs a year early. This season will harden them up, make them better and come '07 with a lighter schedule, "it's on!"

Eli should be ranked in the bottom half of league starters. He's going to have to throw and he'll have several 300-yard games, but I expect alot of picks and not the best of completion percentages/scores.

 

[Bankerguy]

Maybe the NFL will feel sorry for them and give them 9 home games again?

 

[delusional]

and i thought the ealges had a bad schedule at the end of the year

 

[Construction Man Jim]

Eli demonstrated he can produce against tough competition last year (see the San Diego, Denver and Seattle games for example).

And as for Eli's struggles (inaccuracy) and decline in the second half of the season - one factor that hasn't been accounted for here is - he was fighting through a couple of undisclosed injuries (Giants didn't want teams to be able to game plan knowing the QB was less than 100% - and they would have faced stiff fines from the league had the injuries been acknowledged after the season).

1) He was never able to fully recover from/ sufficently rest the elbow injury he suffered against Carolina in the pre-season and further aggrevated it at some point during the season. It was clearly affecting him more and more as the season wore on.

2) He also hurt his wrist against the Eagles.

The fact that Eli toughed it out despite being injured makes having the type of season he had all that much more impressive. I posted the following on another thread but it's worth repeating:

In just his 2nd year in the league and first full year as a starter he was 5th in passing yards and 4th in TD passes for the entire NFL. Consider how that compares vs. the elite QBs of the past 30 years (at comparable stages of their careers):

Eli Manning

Yards...Cmp%...TD...INT...Rating...Games...Year

3762....52.8......24....17....75.9.....16 (16)...2

Peyton Manning

Yards...Cmp%...TD...INT...Rating...Games...Year

3739....56.7......26....28....71.2......16 (16)...1

4135....62.1......26....15....90.7......16 (16)...2

Carson Palmer

Yards...Cmp%...TD...INT...Rating...Games...Year

2897....60.9......18...18.....77.3......13 (13)...2

3836....67.8......32...12.....101.1....16 (16)...3

Tom Brady

Yards...Cmp%...TD...INT...Rating...Games...Year

2843....63.9......18...12.....86.5.....15 (14)...2

3764....62.1......28...14.....85.7.....16 (16)...3

Brett Favre

Yards...Cmp%...TD...INT...Rating...Games...Year

3227....64.1......18...13.....85.3.....15 (13)...2

3303....60.9......19...24.....72.2.....16 (16)...3

Donovan McNabb

Yards...Cmp%...TD...INT...Rating...Games...Year

3365....58.0......21...13.....77.8.....16 (16)...2

3233....57.8......25...12.....84.3.....16 (16)...3

Ben Roethlisberger

Yards...Cmp%...TD...INT...Rating...Games...Year

2621....66.4......17...11.....98.1.....14 (13)...1

2385....62.7......17...9.......98.6.....12 (12)...2

Daunte Culpepper

Yards...Cmp%...TD...INT...Rating...Games...Year

3937....62.7......33...16.....98.0......16 (16)...2

2612....64.2......14...13.....83.3......11 (11)...3

3853....60.7......18...23.....75.3......16 (16)...4

Joe Montana

Yards...Cmp%...TD...INT...Rating...Games...Year

1795....64.5......15...9.......87.8.....15 (7).....2

3565....63.7......19...12.....88.4.....16 (16)...3

Jim Kelly

Yards...Cmp%...TD...INT...Rating...Games...Year

3593....59.4......22...17.....83.3.....16 (16)...1

2798....59.7......19...11.....83.8.....12 (12)...2

3380....59.5......15...17.....78.2.....16 (16)...3

Dan Marino

Yards...Cmp%...TD...INT...Rating...Games...Year

2210....58.4......20...6.......96.0.....11 (9).....1

5084....64.2......48...17.....108.9...16 (16)...2

4137....59.3......30...21.....84.1.....16 (16)...3

John Elway

Yards...Cmp%...TD...INT...Rating...Games...Year

1683....47.5......7.....14.....54.9......11 (11)...1

2598....56.3......18...15.....76.8......15 (15)...2

3891....54.0......22...23.....70.2......16 (16)...3

Troy Aikman

Yards...Cmp%...TD...INT...Rating...Games...Year

1749....52.9......9.....18.....55.7.....11 (11)...1

2579....56.6......11...18.....66.6.....15 (15)...2

2754....65.3......11...10.....86.7.....12 (12)...3

3445....63.8......23...14.....89.5.....16 (16)...4

That places Eli in VERY, VERY select company.

 

[houndirish]

Maybe the NFL will feel sorry for them and give them 9 home games again?

I'm amazed it took 32 posts for the predictable "extra home game" joke

 

[Bankerguy]

Maybe the NFL will feel sorry for them and give them 9 home games again?

I'm amazed it took 32 posts for the predictable "extra home game" joke

I wouldn't want you to be disapointed.

 

[SSOG]

*****Warning***** Do not downgrade TIKI!!

Every year he gets downgraded and just beats up other teams. First it was Ron Dayne, then it was a fluke season, then there was no way he'd do it again, now it's a "brutal schedule".

You are making a mistake.

Agreed. Two of Barber's three 200 yard games came against KC and Washington, who both sported pretty darn good rushing defenses last season. And if the rush gets shut down, he's always an option in the passing game, too, averaging well over 500 receiving yards a season.

Eli demonstrated he can produce against tough competition last year (see the San Diego, Denver and Seattle games for example).

And as for Eli's struggles (inaccuracy) and decline in the second half of the season - one factor that hasn't been accounted for here is - he was fighting through a couple of undisclosed injuries (Giants didn't want teams to be able to game plan knowing the QB was less than 100% - and they would have faced stiff fines from the league had the injuries been acknowledged after the season).

Here's another explanation for his struggles in the second half of the season.This is a quote from an article by Aaron Schatz from over at Foxsports. It was written right after week 9. This was the link, but it doesn't seem to work anymore.

Eli Manning is having one of the strangest quarterback seasons of all time, combining a terrible completion percentage with an uncanny ability to avoid interceptions. Right now, Manning has completed just 52 percent of his passes -- the league average is 60 percent -- but has 14 touchdowns and five interceptions. Here's a list of all the quarterbacks since the 16-game season began in 1978 who fit the following criteria:

* less than a 55 percent completion percentage

* at least twice as many touchdowns as interceptions

* at least 300 pass attempts

Player Year Team COMP ATT COMP% PaYD PaTD INT

Jay Schroeder 1990 RAI 182 334 54.5% 2849 19 9

Trent Green 1998 WAS 278 509 54.6% 3441 23 11

Tony Banks 1999 BAL 169 320 52.8% 2136 17 8

Michael Vick 2002 ATL 231 421 54.9% 2936 16 8

Eli Manning 2005 NYG 266 516 51.6% 3622 28 10

Manning's numbers are pro-rated to 16 games for comparison. Not only are there only four quarterbacks that qualify, but each one of them had a higher completion percentage than Manning has, and a worse touchdown-to-interception ratio.

Frankly, the chances of Manning continuing this for an entire season are remote. He either needs to get more accurate, or he's bound to throw some picks sooner or later.

Just as a note: from the time that article was published to the end of the season, Manning threw 10 TDs to 15 picks. Personally, unless he improves his accuracy, I think this season is far more likely to resemble the second half of last season than the first (which was a statistical anomoly of historic proportions).Which isn't to say he's not going to improve his accuracy. I mean, he's only going into his 3rd season, he's got plenty of room for improvement. I'm just tempering my expectations some.

 

[Unlucky]

So if the Giants are going to be losing a lot, please explain how this hurts Eli Manning. Last time I checked, the team that's losing typically throws often in the 4th Quarter, thus increasing the QB's opportunities.

I think this is a bit of an overanalysis. If you want to say that the Giants won't win as many games, that's OK. But winning and QB stats don't correlate all that well, IMO. Perhaps the defenses he faces are all really good and the offense won't be able to score many points. However, I'm less inclined to significantly downgrade an offense based on the schedule.

 

[LHUCKS]

So if the Giants are going to be losing a lot, please explain how this hurts Eli Manning. Last time I checked, the team that's losing typically throws often in the 4th Quarter, thus increasing the QB's opportunities.

I think this is a bit of an overanalysis. If you want to say that the Giants won't win as many games, that's OK. But winning and QB stats don't correlate all that well, IMO. Perhaps the defenses he faces are all really good and the offense won't be able to score many points. However, I'm less inclined to significantly downgrade an offense based on the schedule.

I'm not going to significantly downgrade anyone, but I think it's safe to say I'd bet on a decrease in TDs for the NYG this years.