Eliminating as much luck as possible (1 Viewer)

[PDX Pain]

I'm shocked by the overwhelming amount of Fantasy Football participants that are so adamantly against a total points scoring system. It's not lost on me that the head to head format is more entertaining from week to week, but that is not to say total points is boring. I think total points is very fun as well, but more importantly, total points is a better indication of how good or how bad of a FF manager you are.

Are any of you sharks running a points only league? If so, how is it going for you? Are you still getting the bang for your entertainment buck? Do you agree with me that total points is the true measure of your ability to manage a team? Isn't it better to eliminate as much luck as possible when playing FF?

I just don't understand the overwhelming resistance I get to the total points format.

Forgive me if this discussion has been hashed and rehashed in the past. I'm relatively new here.

 

[Chunky Soup]

Less luck, yes. Less fun, yes.

 

[ttea]

I'm shocked by the overwhelming amount of Fantasy Football participants that are so adamantly against a total points scoring system. It's not lost on me that the head to head format is more entertaining from week to week, but that is not to say total points is boring. I think total points is very fun as well, but more importantly, total points is a better indication of how good or how bad of a FF manager you are. Are any of you sharks running a points only league? If so, how is it going for you? Are you still getting the bang for your entertainment buck? Do you agree with me that total points is the true measure of your ability to manage a team? Isn't it better to eliminate as much luck as possible when playing FF?I just don't understand the overwhelming resistance I get to the total points format. Forgive me if this discussion has been hashed and rehashed in the past. I'm relatively new here.

I believe its the opposite, it's harder to manage Head to Head than total points. You have to take into account your opponents schedule, his player's byes, injuries etc.In total points, I think it's just easier to ride a stormy week with the players you have rather than trading to try to win the weekly match.Total points is great in baseball though, I think it's the best way to play Fantasy Baseball, but not Football.

 

[CalBear]

I'm shocked by the overwhelming amount of Fantasy Football participants that are so adamantly against a total points scoring system. It's not lost on me that the head to head format is more entertaining from week to week, but that is not to say total points is boring. I think total points is very fun as well, but more importantly, total points is a better indication of how good or how bad of a FF manager you are. Are any of you sharks running a points only league? If so, how is it going for you? Are you still getting the bang for your entertainment buck? Do you agree with me that total points is the true measure of your ability to manage a team? Isn't it better to eliminate as much luck as possible when playing FF?I just don't understand the overwhelming resistance I get to the total points format. Forgive me if this discussion has been hashed and rehashed in the past. I'm relatively new here.

Would the NFL be better off if it decided championships based on total points instead of head to head matchups?The goal of fantasy football is to have fun, and head to head is more fun. Luck is part of almost every good sport or game.

 

[Stingdiddy]

Total Points = More fun, less luck and the satisfaction of knowing the best team won the league title. In total points with decimal scoring, you're begging for each and every yard regardless of whether or not you've blown out your opponent for the week or have been blown out for the week. Head to head is amateur hour...

 

[Stingdiddy]

I'm shocked by the overwhelming amount of Fantasy Football participants that are so adamantly against a total points scoring system. It's not lost on me that the head to head format is more entertaining from week to week, but that is not to say total points is boring. I think total points is very fun as well, but more importantly, total points is a better indication of how good or how bad of a FF manager you are. Are any of you sharks running a points only league? If so, how is it going for you? Are you still getting the bang for your entertainment buck? Do you agree with me that total points is the true measure of your ability to manage a team? Isn't it better to eliminate as much luck as possible when playing FF?I just don't understand the overwhelming resistance I get to the total points format. Forgive me if this discussion has been hashed and rehashed in the past. I'm relatively new here.

Would the NFL be better off if it decided championships based on total points instead of head to head matchups?The goal of fantasy football is to have fun, and head to head is more fun. Luck is part of almost every good sport or game.

Fantasy football isn't NFL football. You have no control over how many points your opponent scores in a week. In the NFL, you do have control over your opponent's scoring. It's funny to me when people compare the NFL with fantasy football.I play in both a head to head league and a total points league (the head to head winner still gets a very small piece of the prize money). The total points league is way more fun, people are involved until week 16 (lots of total points side bets are happening) and the overall winner of the league is regarded as the true champ. Most of the people who argue for a head to head league, probably have never been in a total points league.

 

[Dragon1952]

I'm not sure one format is necessarily more or less luck than the other. They both rely on luck quite a bit.

 

[PDX Pain]

I'm shocked by the overwhelming amount of Fantasy Football participants that are so adamantly against a total points scoring system. It's not lost on me that the head to head format is more entertaining from week to week, but that is not to say total points is boring. I think total points is very fun as well, but more importantly, total points is a better indication of how good or how bad of a FF manager you are.

Are any of you sharks running a points only league? If so, how is it going for you? Are you still getting the bang for your entertainment buck? Do you agree with me that total points is the true measure of your ability to manage a team? Isn't it better to eliminate as much luck as possible when playing FF?

I just don't understand the overwhelming resistance I get to the total points format.

Forgive me if this discussion has been hashed and rehashed in the past. I'm relatively new here.

Would the NFL be better off if it decided championships based on total points instead of head to head matchups?The goal of fantasy football is to have fun, and head to head is more fun. Luck is part of almost every good sport or game.

Hmm. Not entirely. The goal is to win. And far too often I have found myself on the other end of another team blowing up. It's happened 3 out of the 4 weeks this season. 3 times I've had the MISFORTUNE of playing that weeks highest scoring team. I'm 1-3 and 4th in my league in points scored. It's ridiculous to me, and this seems to be a trend over the course of the last 3-4 SEASONS. It's very unlucky and extremely discouraging. All of this disappointment could avoided if my main league just went with total points. Under that scoring system I'm a mere 99 pts out of first place. For all the time, money and effort I put in to that league I think it's completely FAIR to base winning and losing off your ability to manage a team! Not your ability to avoid bad luck!

 

[editor47]

Total Points = More fun, less luck and the satisfaction of knowing the best team won the league title. In total points with decimal scoring, you're begging for each and every yard regardless of whether or not you've blown out your opponent for the week or have been blown out for the week. Head to head is amateur hour...

totally agree. we give a weekly prize to the high scorer and we're a total points league, playing all 17 weeks. it has made it very difficult to be any other leagues, though, namely the head to head. the best team wins in total points. case closed.

 

[Stingdiddy]

I'm shocked by the overwhelming amount of Fantasy Football participants that are so adamantly against a total points scoring system. It's not lost on me that the head to head format is more entertaining from week to week, but that is not to say total points is boring. I think total points is very fun as well, but more importantly, total points is a better indication of how good or how bad of a FF manager you are.

Are any of you sharks running a points only league? If so, how is it going for you? Are you still getting the bang for your entertainment buck? Do you agree with me that total points is the true measure of your ability to manage a team? Isn't it better to eliminate as much luck as possible when playing FF?

I just don't understand the overwhelming resistance I get to the total points format.

Forgive me if this discussion has been hashed and rehashed in the past. I'm relatively new here.

Would the NFL be better off if it decided championships based on total points instead of head to head matchups?The goal of fantasy football is to have fun, and head to head is more fun. Luck is part of almost every good sport or game.

Hmm. Not entirely. The goal is to win. And far too often I have found myself on the other end of another team blowing up. It's happened 3 out of the 4 weeks this season. 3 times I've had the MISFORTUNE of playing that weeks highest scoring team. I'm 1-3 and 4th in my league in points scored. It's ridiculous to me, and this seems to be a trend over the course of the last 3-4 SEASONS. It's very unlucky and extremely discouraging. All of this disappointment could avoided if my main league just went with total points. Under that scoring system I'm a mere 99 pts out of first place. For all the time, money and effort I put in to that league I think it's completely FAIR to base winning and losing off your ability to manage a team! Not your ability to avoid bad luck!

Right on...in my head to head league, the only team that's 4-0 has scored the LEAST amount of points in the league. Lame.

 

[TakiToki]

I think heavily weighting victory points strikes a nice balance between week-to-week excitement and the elimination of some luck.

 

[faux_bear]

I have argued with my leaguemates for years over this very issue, but it's a losing battle, as I always get the "less luck less fun" argument. Of course, none of them have ever tried a total points league.

Instead we get the usual #####ing and moaning when the team with the second highest scoring total gets a loss for the week, or whatever..."I can't believe I lost with a 180! and you won with a 130! Waaaa!!!

But that's what they get for not wanting to switch to total points.

 

[PDX Pain]

I'm shocked by the overwhelming amount of Fantasy Football participants that are so adamantly against a total points scoring system. It's not lost on me that the head to head format is more entertaining from week to week, but that is not to say total points is boring. I think total points is very fun as well, but more importantly, total points is a better indication of how good or how bad of a FF manager you are. Are any of you sharks running a points only league? If so, how is it going for you? Are you still getting the bang for your entertainment buck? Do you agree with me that total points is the true measure of your ability to manage a team? Isn't it better to eliminate as much luck as possible when playing FF?I just don't understand the overwhelming resistance I get to the total points format. Forgive me if this discussion has been hashed and rehashed in the past. I'm relatively new here.

Would the NFL be better off if it decided championships based on total points instead of head to head matchups?The goal of fantasy football is to have fun, and head to head is more fun. Luck is part of almost every good sport or game.

Fantasy football isn't NFL football. You have no control over how many points your opponent scores in a week. In the NFL, you do have control over your opponent's scoring. It's funny to me when people compare the NFL with fantasy football.I play in both a head to head league and a total points league (the head to head winner still gets a very small piece of the prize money). The total points league is way more fun, people are involved until week 16 (lots of total points side bets are happening) and the overall winner of the league is regarded as the true champ. Most of the people who argue for a head to head league, probably have never been in a total points league.

This. I've played in both, but haven't played in a points only league since the late 90's. No one wants to participate in them because they've never experienced them.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Always been a big fan of total points. It's just as fun as h2h and just as much trash talking. I think a lot of owners who don't like it have never tried it.

H2h is a great equalizer, allowing inferior teams the opportunity to hang on and maybe make the playoffs or win a title with some luck. I've benefited from that plenty of times as well. But I enjoy total points because when you win, you know you were the best and nobody can dispute that fact. It wasn't (as much) luck, it wasn't a good match-up and it wasn't a soft schedule. Likewise, when you lose, you know the winner had better players than you and out-lasted your team.

I like both formats, but I always want to play in at least one total points league each year. I feel like it's more honest competition and a better judge of which team was the best. Fantasy football isn't real football. It doesn't have to pretend to be the real thing, and you don't need phantom "games" to keep the illusion going. But I like h2h for some things as well. I suggest people actually try both, but as long as you enjoy your system it's a fun league.

 

[CalBear]

I play in both a head to head league and a total points league (the head to head winner still gets a very small piece of the prize money). The total points league is way more fun, people are involved until week 16 (lots of total points side bets are happening) and the overall winner of the league is regarded as the true champ. Most of the people who argue for a head to head league, probably have never been in a total points league.

I've played in the Anarchy Invitational total points league for four years now, and it's nowhere near as fun as a head to head league. Half the teams are functionally eliminated by midway through the season, and most years the championship is more or less decided well before the end of the season. And really, it doesn't prove who's better any more than head to head does; it proves whose sleeper picks worked out best, and whose players didn't get injured.

 

[Lash]

14 team league

weekly play head to head, win your game = 1 victory point

and weekly play everyone in the league = top 7 weekly scorers get 1 victory point

best of both

 

[ElliotDiamond]

Total Points = More fun, less luck and the satisfaction of knowing the best team won the league title. In total points with decimal scoring, you're begging for each and every yard regardless of whether or not you've blown out your opponent for the week or have been blown out for the week. Head to head is amateur hour...

agree x 1,000,000. it's the best kept secret in fantasy football. i have huge respect for any league that still employs total points...don't know anybody else personally who still does. i'm in multiple leagues, and the total points one that i've been in for 16 years is the only one i really care about. you have a vested interest in every player. you are rooting against every team. the weeks dont end with a win or a loss. i could go on and on. i'm guessing if you know how awesome total points is, you've been playing fantasy football since before it came so popular and mainstream. i've stopped arguing with the newfangled fantasy fanatic on why it's so much better...it's a waste of breath and they'll never try it anyway, so, what's the use?i play in H2H leagues, but they are so f'ing illogical it's ######ed. but hey, that's all most people know. like you said, you can't control your opponents points in ff. this isn't the nfl. and i dont understand how people don't realize that having to factor in your players opponents in 3 arbitrary weeks (14, 15, and 16), and actually incorporate that into your strategy is dumb as utter ####? H2H leagues is, simply put, unnecessarily adding an (additional, i guess) ENORMOUS luck factor into the equation.

 

[fozzy fosbourne]

Yeah, I actually like fantasy basketball more than football because there is seemingly way less luck involved, and roto is actually alot more fun than H2H in basketball IMO. I just lose interest in H2H basketball because I feel like so much is not under my direct influence.

I've never played in a total points or roto football league but I imagine I would take it much more seriously than H2H football, which is really a crapshoot.

As an aside, in addition to the whole "I had one of the highest scores in the league but missed the playoffs" angle, there's also whacko scheduling. In one of my leagues, I don't play a single team who has one of their top 3 picks on bye during the week I'm playing them. Really, FF?

 

[RUSF18]

The FFOC contest has you play two games per week. You get a win/loss based on your H2H matchup, and another win/loss if you're in the top or bottom half of the league in points that week. I think that does a pretty good job of evening the field.

Do any of the traditional sites give you that kind of option?

 

[Stingdiddy]

Always been a big fan of total points. It's just as fun as h2h and just as much trash talking. I think a lot of owners who don't like it have never tried it.

H2h is a great equalizer, allowing inferior teams the opportunity to hang on and maybe make the playoffs or win a title with some luck. I've benefited from that plenty of times as well. But I enjoy total points because when you win, you know you were the best and nobody can dispute that fact. It wasn't (as much) luck, it wasn't a good match-up and it wasn't a soft schedule. Likewise, when you lose, you know the winner had better players than you and out-lasted your team.

I like both formats, but I always want to play in at least one total points league each year. I feel like it's more honest competition and a better judge of which team was the best. Fantasy football isn't real football. It doesn't have to pretend to be the real thing, and you don't need phantom "games" to keep the illusion going. But I like h2h for some things as well. I suggest people actually try both, but as long as you enjoy your system it's a fun league.

Those that are newer to fantasy football and not as skilled are NOT in favor of total points.

Head to head = The great equalizer

 

[ElliotDiamond]

I play in both a head to head league and a total points league (the head to head winner still gets a very small piece of the prize money). The total points league is way more fun, people are involved until week 16 (lots of total points side bets are happening) and the overall winner of the league is regarded as the true champ.

Most of the people who argue for a head to head league, probably have never been in a total points league.

I've played in the Anarchy Invitational total points league for four years now, and it's nowhere near as fun as a head to head league. Half the teams are functionally eliminated by midway through the season, and most years the championship is more or less decided well before the end of the season. And really, it doesn't prove who's better any more than head to head does; it proves whose sleeper picks worked out best, and whose players didn't get injured.

surely you can't really believe that, can you?

 

[boubucarow]

Total points is less lucky than head to head for sure. However, total points isn't an automatic indication of the best team.

TEAM A scores 90 points in week 1, 80 points in week 2, and alternates until 90 points again in week 17. TEAM A would have 1450 total points.

TEAM B scores 130 points a week in the first 6 weeks, then it scores 62 points a week for the rest of the year. TEAM B would have 1462 total points.

Which is the best team?

 

[fozzy fosbourne]

Total points is less lucky than head to head for sure. However, total points isn't an automatic indication of the best team.TEAM A scores 90 points in week 1, 80 points in week 2, and alternates until 90 points again in week 17. TEAM A would have 1450 total points.TEAM B scores 130 points a week in the first 6 weeks, then it scores 62 points a week for the rest of the year. TEAM B would have 1462 total points.Which is the best team?

Team B. Each week is important. Not just who's alive and has a good matchup in one week of the season.

 

[theglorydays]

Total points is much better. I'm currently in a total points league and i'm in 3rd place, 27 points behind the leader. If it was a head to head league, i would most likely be 2-2.

 

[PDX Pain]

14 team leagueweekly play head to head, win your game = 1 victory pointand weekly play everyone in the league = top 7 weekly scorers get 1 victory pointbest of both

I like this.

 

[fasteddie_21]

14 team leagueweekly play head to head, win your game = 1 victory pointand weekly play everyone in the league = top 7 weekly scorers get 1 victory pointbest of both

I like this.

As do I...gonna see about introducing this next season. GREAT idea!

 

[Novice2]

If you want to get rid of luck join an all play league.

One league for example the points leader is 5th in All Play. 7 games behind the #1 team.

In your ''get rid of luck'' league he is leading because he had one lucky week.

Where as if you really wanted to get rid of luck you would forget your little total points league and join an all play league.

I'll just keep my head 2 head ty.

 

[CBower4545]

I agree I think the NFL should get rid of HTH too. Whats with all those loser wildcard teams making superbowl runs. They should line them up every week and just write down the points scored forget records. Best point differential, between points scored and points given up should be declared the Champion at the end of the year. Then we can save ourselves the farce of the playoffs. No more fake champions, lets give it to the best team.

 

[ElliotDiamond]

I agree I think the NFL should get rid of HTH too. Whats with all those loser wildcard teams making superbowl runs. They should line them up every week and just write down the points scored forget records. Best point differential, between points scored and points given up should be declared the Champion at the end of the year. Then we can save ourselves the farce of the playoffs. No more fake champions, lets give it to the best team.

perfect...thanks for hammering home our point

 

[fozzy fosbourne]

I agree I think the NFL should get rid of HTH too. Whats with all those loser wildcard teams making superbowl runs. They should line them up every week and just write down the points scored forget records. Best point differential, between points scored and points given up should be declared the Champion at the end of the year. Then we can save ourselves the farce of the playoffs. No more fake champions, lets give it to the best team.

You can see though how in the real nfl, two teams directly affect each other. A team controls it's own destiny in the real nfl by being able to influence the other team through their actions. My fantasy football team can't do eff to the other player's team.Plus fantasy sports is much more like an nfl-based stock market than anything resembling real football, IMO. If you want to play a facsimile of NFL football, I think something like Madden is a million times better suited.

 

[ookook]

I second the vote for "all play". Is a very nice compromise. Is semi-compensatory across weeks.

My favorite by far.

 

[fozzy fosbourne]

Is "All-play" basically like H2H but you play every opponent each week? That could be interesting.

 

[Wilbur Wood]

The leagues that I commish I've changed to the following format.

12 (or 14) teams all in 1 division.

H2H schedule.

Top 4 won/loss records make the playoffs. The last 2 wild card slots are given to most total points in the season amongst the remaining teams, irrespective of record.

I think this hybrid method is the best system having played in both (pure H2H or Pure points).

Victory points gets a little hard to track for some.

This method keeps all of the juice of a weekly win or loss vs simply riding the subtle ebb and flows of trying to accumulate points, not worrying about bye weeks as much, etc. Yet at the same time you want to continue to pile on as many points as you can in the late games even if you are up a lot or behind a lot.

This system invariably adjusts for that "unlucky" team that had a tough schedule as they gain a wild/card yet still keeps the proper focus on H2H.

Lumping all teams in 1 division, eliminates the luck of "easy" or "hard" divisions, yet the top seeds get byes and extra cash so there is still a lot of juice associated with where you finish in the standings.

 

[Clev4ever]

I do a head to head league but throw in that the high score for the week wins a prize. The best record gets a bye in week 1 of the playoffs and the highest scoring team gets money at the end of year too. A little bit of both worlds. Gives everyone a shot from week 1-13. Then the playoffs obviously for those who make it. Its not always that the best record has the most points. So far this year, it is going that way. I mostly see the team with the most points seems to have not so good luck as they are in the liddle of the standings and usually have given up the most points.

 

[joetrow]

I play in both and overall points leagues in my opinion are much better because they are more difficult. It's not hard to swallow seeing a player blow up on your bench when in a H2H league and you still manage to win that week, but in overall points, it could cost you the difference in a 1st place or a 2cnd place finish at the end of the year. I think, if you take a points league serious, you learn way more than in a H2H league. I find myself doing alot more studying, looking at matchups more, and putting more overall effort into a points league than a H2H league.

 

[fozzy fosbourne]

Another thing to consider is that something like total points or All-Play would actually be more casual friendly in terms of keeping the more competitive owners interested in adopting less competitive owners into the league.

The biggest problem with leagues of friends/coworkers is there is always some dead weight halfway through the season. Sometimes we have an owner that just gets destroyed by some combination of busted draft and injuries, or an owner that just lost interest for some reason. In a roto league like in basketball, this doesn't really affect anyone else -- it's mostly unnoticed. In a H2H league, this can lead to some frustration by the guys who miss the playoffs because they didn't get to play against the zombie teams as much in their schedule. Of course in a perfect world everyone would be fighting tooth and nail for a win every week even after they have gone 0-5 to start the season, but in reality, not so much.

 

[tomarken]

Always been a big fan of total points. It's just as fun as h2h and just as much trash talking. I think a lot of owners who don't like it have never tried it.

H2h is a great equalizer, allowing inferior teams the opportunity to hang on and maybe make the playoffs or win a title with some luck. I've benefited from that plenty of times as well. But I enjoy total points because when you win, you know you were the best and nobody can dispute that fact. It wasn't (as much) luck, it wasn't a good match-up and it wasn't a soft schedule. Likewise, when you lose, you know the winner had better players than you and out-lasted your team.

I like both formats, but I always want to play in at least one total points league each year. I feel like it's more honest competition and a better judge of which team was the best. Fantasy football isn't real football. It doesn't have to pretend to be the real thing, and you don't need phantom "games" to keep the illusion going. But I like h2h for some things as well. I suggest people actually try both, but as long as you enjoy your system it's a fun league.

Those that are newer to fantasy football and not as skilled are in favor of total points.

Head to head = The great equalizer

watYou have this totally backwards. Newbs are in favor of H2H because it's "the great equalizer". They can have far less skill and still win a fair number of games because of the inherent variance in playing a single opponent every week. H2H introduces a huge luck factor into the game that isn't present in other formats. And luck benefits the newer, less skilled owners.

For example: How much skill does it take to get matched up against the Drew Brees owner this week?

If you really want a true measure of the best teams, you play a total points or all-play format. If you want to argue that H2H is more fun or something, that's a different argument. But H2H is probably the least equitable format of all the fantasy variants.

 

[thekidd2009]

I've been in both formats the past two years and I enjoy both. With that being said, if i had to chose between the two, i would prefer total points. I think the playoff format in h2h is a complete crapshoot. You could be week in and week out the best team but have one bad week and suddenly your out of it? Total points does a better job of determining the best and most consistent team imo.

 

[kutta]

We mix the two.

1. We play head to head each week to determine playoff seedings, etc. The entry fees for the league are divided among 1st-3rd place based on playoffs.

2. Each waiver we do costs us $1. The overall total points winner for the league gets all the waiver dollars.

 

[ceo3west]

14 team leagueweekly play head to head, win your game = 1 victory pointand weekly play everyone in the league = top 7 weekly scorers get 1 victory pointbest of both

Same here, love it. Good compromise between the two systems. Also, 6 teams make playoffs, top 2 get byes. Week 1, top 2 of 4 scores advance. Week 2, top 2 of 4 scores advance. Week 3, championship game.

 

[thekidd2009]

Another thing to consider is that something like total points or All-Play would actually be more casual friendly in terms of keeping the more competitive owners interested in adopting less competitive owners into the league.The biggest problem with leagues of friends/coworkers is there is always some dead weight halfway through the season. Sometimes we have an owner that just gets destroyed by some combination of busted draft and injuries, or an owner that just lost interest for some reason. In a roto league like in basketball, this doesn't really affect anyone else -- it's mostly unnoticed. In a H2H league, this can lead to some frustration by the guys who miss the playoffs because they didn't get to play against the zombie teams as much in their schedule. Of course in a perfect world everyone would be fighting tooth and nail for a win every week even after they have gone 0-5 to start the season, but in reality, not so much.

You make a good point. In roto this is not as much of a problem unless you are looking to trade for a player or something.

 

[Jed]

Total points is true skill. That's why I mostly play total points challenge games at CDM/Fanball.

 

[Bills_Fan11]

Meh, anyone who complains about the luck factor probably underestimates the luck factor in real life football (and sports for that matter).

 

[tomarken]

I think it's important to make the distinction between people who play for the social aspect, or people who play for fun, and people who play for money. For example, I really enjoy fantasy football and I think it's fun, but ultimately I play because every year I stand to win thousands of dollars by doing so. If I was playing for free I'd probably be in one league and I wouldn't really care what the league format was. But because my primary motivation is winning money, I want to reduce the luck factor as much as possible. There no way, and no reason, to equate fantasy football to real football. They are two completely different games (e.g. there is no defense in fantasy football, in the sense that you can limit your opponent's scoring), so analogies to the NFL are completely irrelevant.

 

[rotorooter]

Our league has been together for 15 years.

Over the years we morphed into what I think is a unique system that lessens the luck but keeps it fun.

We play two "games" a week: one head to head, the second against the avg. of all the teams in the league.

So even if you lose to the top point scorer for the week head to head , if you team did better than avg. you end up 1-1.

In the end playoffs are decided by record, so your team still needs a lot of luck come playoff time. But 2/5 of the pot also goes to the team with the most points.

 

[Soaring Eagle]

40% of prize pool head to head (top 3)

40% of prizes total points (top 3)

10% weekly high scores

10% all play records (top 3)

we get the best of all worlds

 

[ffinmyblood]

There is no excuse for not playing HTH IMO. As a few others have said....why doesn't the NFL just scrap the HTH format and the two highest scoring teams in the league are the best. Yeah, that sounds like a whole lot of fun. Spare me the FF isn't NFL football spiel. I suppose you owners that play in leagues where you score 70 or 80 points plus every week, is realistic?? When is the last time an NFL team scored that many in a game??

Owners that like the total points format better are probably the same owners that LOVE the auction format too. Because that gives everyone a fair chance at the same players right??

Nut up, draft your team like they do in real life, implore some strategies of improving your team throughout the year(like trading) and play some ball. if you lose in a week because your opponent outscored you, then guess what?? Welcome to football my friends. 16 teams in the NFL get outscored and lose every week. It's the way it is.

The TRUE measure of the best team in a league in ANY format is the most consistent team. For example if the league average every week is roughly around 35-40 and your team scores between 30-40 every week, with some games HIGHER then the average, but none lower, then that is the best team in the league regardless of the final outcome at years end. Is FF really that hard to figure out people??

 

[Chief]

We do both.

We pay out 1st to 4th in total points (starters only..no bench) and 1st through 4th in HtH. 50%-50% split.

speaking to your question/statement, there has not been a lot of difference between who wins either points or HtH over the years.

 

[puckalicious]

Does anybody do H2H, but without having to "set" your lineup? So you automatically get the highest QB score, the 2 highest RB scores, etc. I enjoy H2H but I HATE having to sit in front of my computer every sunday morning to see if Joe Questionable is going to play or not.

I like some of the ideas here, but I don't recall reading one that addresses this.

 

[editor47]

those of you comparing fantasy football to the NFL are a bunch of damn morons.

in the nfl, teams get to put a defense out there to try to stop the other team .

in fantasy, i can't do anything to stop who my opponent has in a H2H game.

therefore, total points is a truer indicator.