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Embrel kicked my psoriasis's ### (1 Viewer)

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I had psoriasis as a kid and it went away until I was in my early 30s. Then it came back with a vengance and I had it for over a decade.

My new dermatologist told me to try Embrel. She said that were no current known LT heath issues and I couldn't find anything bad on the internet, so I gave it a shot (actually two shots a week).

In about a month all the psoriasis was cleared up. Amazing.

Now I am supposed to start decreasing the injections until we find a maintenance dosage to prevent it from recurring.

I am hoping Genedoc reads this and tells me how it works and if there are longterm things I need to be aware of.

 
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cosjobs said:
I had psoriasis as a kid and it went away until I was in my early 30s. Then it came back with a vengance and I had it for over a decade.

My new dermatologist told me to try Embrel. She said that were no current known LT heath issues and I couldn't find anything bad on the internet, so I gave it a shot (actually two shots a week).

In about a month all the psoriasis was cleared up. Amazing.

Now I am supposed to start decreasing the injections until we find a maintenance dosage to prevent it from recurring.

I am hoping Genedoc reads this and tells me how it works and if there are longterm things I need to be aware of.
Hi Cos - Glad to see Enbrel is working well for you. As for the specific questions you asked, it's not a drug I'm immediately familiar with. Whenever that's the case, which is pretty often since I'm a researcher and not an MD or a pharmacist, I turn to rxlist.com, which describes Enbrel here.

In short, it works by binding to a molecule called TNF in your body that mediates inflammation. It's a recombinant protein, so it's only available via injection. When something happens to your body - injury, exposure to a bacteria or virus, etc - your immune system responds in an number of ways, inflammation being a major response. When your immune system works properly, it responds with just the right amount of inflammation to deal with what caused it to become activated. However, in many case, the immune system can over respond, and when it does, bad things occur. Many forms of arthritis, lupus, asthma, psoriasis, and many other illnesses are at least in part due to immune system hyper responsiveness. If you can dial back the immune response a little bit, it usually helps the illness. However, figuring out exactly how to dial the immune system back 10-20% is a challenge, because if you dial it back too far, you're creating a bigger problem than you were trying to solve. So the challenge to the drug developer is to figure out a way to turn the immune response down without turning it off. High dose steroids like Prednisone do a good job of turning it "off", but the side effects are drastic. This is a over simplification, but the principals are what I was going for. If you've any other questions, I'll go into more detail.

As for side effects, it's a relatively new drug, so there's no long term data. The biggest warning I've seen is that if you become immunosuppressed for some other reason or develop an infection, Enbrel can exacerbate the problem because it suppresses the immune system. If you develop an infection of some sort, make sure you seek treatment for it and make sure to tell them of your Enbrel treatment. There have also been a couple of cases of lymphoma observed in the clinical trials. From rxlist (emphasis mine) : "9 lymphomas were observed in 5723 patients over approximately 11201 patient-years of therapy. This is 3-fold higher than that expected in the general population. The role of anti-TNF therapy in contributing to these cases remains unclear". I'm no expert, but I'm guessing that people with immune related illnesses are already at higher risk for lymphomas (the lymph nodes are part of the immune system).

Every drug has side effects, this one looks no different than most. It's relatively new, so the risks remain unclear. As with every drug therapy, it's up to you and your MD to weigh the relative risks of treating the disorder and the potential side effects of the med vs. the benefit of the disorder being remedied. I know a LOT of arthritis sufferers who'd sign a waiver tomorrow to get Vioxx back on the market. Ask yourself and your doctor what are the risks, what are the benefits, and which is greater.

Hope this helps.

 
I have been taking Enbrel for about three years for Rheumatoid Arthritis. It has been a miracle drug for me. The only noticeable side effects I have had are injection site reaction and a higher susecptibility to catching a cold. When I catch a cold, I quit taking Enbrel until I am over it to help my immune system fight it.

I am also a little concerned about the long-term effects, but my Rheumatologist assures me that this is a safe drug.

Are you getting periodic blood work? I do every three months. Once, a couple years ago, my liver enzymes were out of whack and they made me quit Enbrel for about three months until they were sure my liver was OK. I am not convinced that this had anything to do with the Enbrel.

Glad to hear it is working for you. Good luck.

 
Enbrel is a relatively new drug. I was on it a few years ago for RA. My doc switched me to Remicade. I don't know if any one is safer than the other. There are a few af these biological drugs available now. They are so new there is no long term studies on safety yet. Some of the diseases they treat are actually being discovered by accident. When Enbrel came out it was an arthrits drug only. People started to see relief from symptoms of other diseases and now they use it to treat a multitude of things. A truly miracle class of drugs for people with RA.

 
Are there any effective alternatives to Embrel?
There are other older treatments, but they're typically less effective for many people and have more profound side effects. Like I said before, I know a number of arthritic patients who'd dearly love for Vioxx to become available again because of how effective it was at treating their pain.
 
I was on a study for Embrel that would make it available to those who have just plain ol' psoriasis. Works pretty darn well, although I'm in a study for another injectable drug that hopefully, will be out by 2008 that completely wiped out my psoriasis.

 
I was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis about 4-5 years ago and my doc put me on methotrexate as well as an anti-inflamatory. While it took care of the arthritis, the potential side effects scared the #### out of me. I like the occassional :banned: and that was completely out with that treatment as I discovered a few times after the regular blood tests said my liver was about to stage a revolt.

My doc put me on Enbrel to try and after getting past the initial hurdle of giving myself a shot, we slowing began backing off the methotrexate until I got to a point where I no longer take it. I've never had an issue with Enbrel. I hope that there are no long term effects of the drug as it's worked wonders for me.

 
MrPhoenix said:
I was on a study for Embrel that would make it available to those who have just plain ol' psoriasis. Works pretty darn well, although I'm in a study for another injectable drug that hopefully, will be out by 2008 that completely wiped out my psoriasis.
You were the control group. You got a placebo. It is all in the mind.P.S. How much did you get paid for the study? My friend did a noravirus study that had him ####ting and vomiting for 2 days straight. He got about $800 tax free.
 
I was on a study for Embrel that would make it available to those who have just plain ol' psoriasis. Works pretty darn well, although I'm in a study for another injectable drug that hopefully, will be out by 2008 that completely wiped out my psoriasis.
You were the control group. You got a placebo. It is all in the mind.P.S. How much did you get paid for the study? My friend did a noravirus study that had him ####ting and vomiting for 2 days straight. He got about $800 tax free.
Nope, I was guaranteed the drug after a certain amount of weeks. I've had BAD psoriasis since high school. I had the #### on my head (including forehead), arms, and back. When you like a leper during high school, you get no sex. Once I started taking this stuff, though, my arms and forehead cleared up and my back and rest of my scalp cleared up right afterwards. However, it isn't as good as the stuff I'm taking now is. It doesn't have a name yet, otherwise I'd pimp it out until I'm blue in the face.BTW, I earned about $25 per visit, which were weekly to start then switched to monthly. I did this for a year, and I think in total, I earned about $500 bucks while on that program.
 
I was on a study for Embrel that would make it available to those who have just plain ol' psoriasis. Works pretty darn well, although I'm in a study for another injectable drug that hopefully, will be out by 2008 that completely wiped out my psoriasis.
You were the control group. You got a placebo. It is all in the mind.P.S. How much did you get paid for the study? My friend did a noravirus study that had him ####ting and vomiting for 2 days straight. He got about $800 tax free.
Nope, I was guaranteed the drug after a certain amount of weeks. I've had BAD psoriasis since high school. I had the #### on my head (including forehead), arms, and back. When you like a leper during high school, you get no sex. Once I started taking this stuff, though, my arms and forehead cleared up and my back and rest of my scalp cleared up right afterwards. However, it isn't as good as the stuff I'm taking now is. It doesn't have a name yet, otherwise I'd pimp it out until I'm blue in the face.BTW, I earned about $25 per visit, which were weekly to start then switched to monthly. I did this for a year, and I think in total, I earned about $500 bucks while on that program.
Name for the new stuff yet? What is it? A chemical pill or biologic?
 
I am looking at this. I'm really sick of dealing with psoriasis. It's all over my scalp line and I had a brutal outbreak this summer. But I'm nervous about how potent it is.

 
I am looking at this. I'm really sick of dealing with psoriasis. It's all over my scalp line and I had a brutal outbreak this summer. But I'm nervous about how potent it is.
What do you use? I use Luxiq and it works very effectively for me. Stress brings it on like a motha####er though.

 
I take Humira, which is similar to Embrel. From what I understand it does a better job with Psoriasis. I take it for arthritis and it does work well...although I seem to need it less and less (which is awesome).

Dart Team and Browns Fan were very gracious in providing me assurance and feedback when I was first diagnosed. I'm happy to do the same.

 
Good news about Humira is that one study shows it reduces the risk of heart disease that comes with psoriasis.

 
I am looking at this. I'm really sick of dealing with psoriasis. It's all over my scalp line and I had a brutal outbreak this summer. But I'm nervous about how potent it is.
What do you use? I use Luxiq and it works very effectively for me. Stress brings it on like a motha####er though.
honestly, nothing. The only two things I tried are the topical creams which I hate using, and the light treatments which work, but are very expensive. I have just learned to deal with it, because I also don't want to take an immunosuppressant or screw with anything with my kidneys or liver.
 
Just started getting psoriasis within the past year. Im a nurse, my pops is a MD, so basically I self diagnosed it and he's prescribed me some topical creams but for the most part they dont do ####. Id rather not start taking actual meds, but most of my psoriasis is on my arms and its annoying as hell.

So considering this thread was started in '07, is Humira preferred over Embrel these days? Even besides the psoriasis, I think I might have rheumatoid arthritis, but it could just as easily be psoriatic arthritis as Ive only noticed that as well in the past year.

 
I am looking at this. I'm really sick of dealing with psoriasis. It's all over my scalp line and I had a brutal outbreak this summer. But I'm nervous about how potent it is.
What do you use? I use Luxiq and it works very effectively for me. Stress brings it on like a motha####er though.
honestly, nothing. The only two things I tried are the topical creams which I hate using, and the light treatments which work, but are very expensive. I have just learned to deal with it, because I also don't want to take an immunosuppressant or screw with anything with my kidneys or liver.
Never had actual light treatments like I know you can get at a Doc's office, but Im anxiously awaiting for summer to arrive because I noticed I was starting getting psoriasis at around this time last year, never had it before, and the best medicine for me was the summertime and getting to the beach. Its been much worse/visible since September/October.

 
I am looking at this. I'm really sick of dealing with psoriasis. It's all over my scalp line and I had a brutal outbreak this summer. But I'm nervous about how potent it is.
What do you use? I use Luxiq and it works very effectively for me. Stress brings it on like a motha####er though.
honestly, nothing. The only two things I tried are the topical creams which I hate using, and the light treatments which work, but are very expensive. I have just learned to deal with it, because I also don't want to take an immunosuppressant or screw with anything with my kidneys or liver.
Never had actual light treatments like I know you can get at a Doc's office, but Im anxiously awaiting for summer to arrive because I noticed I was starting getting psoriasis at around this time last year, never had it before, and the best medicine for me was the summertime and getting to the beach. Its been much worse/visible since September/October.
Sun and UV light will absolutely do wonders for it. I've gone to the dermatologist to get the medical light treatments, and they almost entirely took it away. But it's 2-3 times a week of going somewhere and if you don't have really nice insurance coverage, you end up paying for a lot of it out-of-pocket.
 
I am looking at this. I'm really sick of dealing with psoriasis. It's all over my scalp line and I had a brutal outbreak this summer. But I'm nervous about how potent it is.
What do you use? I use Luxiq and it works very effectively for me. Stress brings it on like a motha####er though.
honestly, nothing. The only two things I tried are the topical creams which I hate using, and the light treatments which work, but are very expensive. I have just learned to deal with it, because I also don't want to take an immunosuppressant or screw with anything with my kidneys or liver.
The 10 year studies seem to show that it's safe and shouldn't increase any other health risks. It's early in the research, but it may lower your risk of heart disease. You guys know psoriasis doesn't just happen on the outside, but also the inside and it messes with your cardiovascular system. Psoriasis looks like a pretty strong independent risk factor for heart disease and strokes. Topical and lift treatments don't impact those concerns.

 
Just started getting psoriasis within the past year. Im a nurse, my pops is a MD, so basically I self diagnosed it and he's prescribed me some topical creams but for the most part they dont do ####. Id rather not start taking actual meds, but most of my psoriasis is on my arms and its annoying as hell.

So considering this thread was started in '07, is Humira preferred over Embrel these days? Even besides the psoriasis, I think I might have rheumatoid arthritis, but it could just as easily be psoriatic arthritis as Ive only noticed that as well in the past year.
What topicals? I agree some of them don't do much. Clobex spray is a beast, you have to use it sparingly, but it knocks the #### out of psoriasis.

 
Just started getting psoriasis within the past year. Im a nurse, my pops is a MD, so basically I self diagnosed it and he's prescribed me some topical creams but for the most part they dont do ####. Id rather not start taking actual meds, but most of my psoriasis is on my arms and its annoying as hell.

So considering this thread was started in '07, is Humira preferred over Embrel these days? Even besides the psoriasis, I think I might have rheumatoid arthritis, but it could just as easily be psoriatic arthritis as Ive only noticed that as well in the past year.
What topicals? I agree some of them don't do much. Clobex spray is a beast, you have to use it sparingly, but it knocks the #### out of psoriasis.
Clobex works, but it's pretty harsh.
 
I am looking at this. I'm really sick of dealing with psoriasis. It's all over my scalp line and I had a brutal outbreak this summer. But I'm nervous about how potent it is.
What do you use? I use Luxiq and it works very effectively for me. Stress brings it on like a motha####er though.
honestly, nothing. The only two things I tried are the topical creams which I hate using, and the light treatments which work, but are very expensive. I have just learned to deal with it, because I also don't want to take an immunosuppressant or screw with anything with my kidneys or liver.
Should ask for the Luxiq, it's a foam very similar to hair mouse from the 80s. Works great for my scalp.

 
I am looking at this. I'm really sick of dealing with psoriasis. It's all over my scalp line and I had a brutal outbreak this summer. But I'm nervous about how potent it is.
What do you use? I use Luxiq and it works very effectively for me. Stress brings it on like a motha####er though.
honestly, nothing. The only two things I tried are the topical creams which I hate using, and the light treatments which work, but are very expensive. I have just learned to deal with it, because I also don't want to take an immunosuppressant or screw with anything with my kidneys or liver.
The 10 year studies seem to show that it's safe and shouldn't increase any other health risks. It's early in the research, but it may lower your risk of heart disease. You guys know psoriasis doesn't just happen on the outside, but also the inside and it messes with your cardiovascular system. Psoriasis looks like a pretty strong independent risk factor for heart disease and strokes. Topical and lift treatments don't impact those concerns.
Which drug are you alluring to here with the studies? Only one I see is Luxiq and as a nurse Ive never seen that rx once.

 
I am looking at this. I'm really sick of dealing with psoriasis. It's all over my scalp line and I had a brutal outbreak this summer. But I'm nervous about how potent it is.
What do you use? I use Luxiq and it works very effectively for me. Stress brings it on like a motha####er though.
honestly, nothing. The only two things I tried are the topical creams which I hate using, and the light treatments which work, but are very expensive. I have just learned to deal with it, because I also don't want to take an immunosuppressant or screw with anything with my kidneys or liver.
The 10 year studies seem to show that it's safe and shouldn't increase any other health risks. It's early in the research, but it may lower your risk of heart disease. You guys know psoriasis doesn't just happen on the outside, but also the inside and it messes with your cardiovascular system. Psoriasis looks like a pretty strong independent risk factor for heart disease and strokes. Topical and lift treatments don't impact those concerns.
Which drug are you alluring to here with the studies? Only one I see is Luxiq and as a nurse Ive never seen that rx once.
Which RX haven't you seen? Are you a nurse in derm?

 
Just started getting psoriasis within the past year. Im a nurse, my pops is a MD, so basically I self diagnosed it and he's prescribed me some topical creams but for the most part they dont do ####. Id rather not start taking actual meds, but most of my psoriasis is on my arms and its annoying as hell.

So considering this thread was started in '07, is Humira preferred over Embrel these days? Even besides the psoriasis, I think I might have rheumatoid arthritis, but it could just as easily be psoriatic arthritis as Ive only noticed that as well in the past year.
Given your profession, you may know this already - but the difference between RA and PsA is pretty academic. How it manifests may differ slightly (large joints, asymmetric in PsA - smaller, symmetric in RA), but the treatment is pretty much the same.

Regardless, you should get bloods done and check out your rheumatoid factor and anti-CCP levels.

ETA - Embrel vs. Humira: you need to inject weekly with Embrel in a standard treatment, vs biweekly with Humira (I'm now monthly). Besides that, I would imagine a lot has to do with preference of the rheumie. I've had two in my life, and both preferred Humira, but that may have something to do with the fact that I have PsA. They may be trying to ward off any psoriasis in the future (I have not had any to date)

 
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Just started getting psoriasis within the past year. Im a nurse, my pops is a MD, so basically I self diagnosed it and he's prescribed me some topical creams but for the most part they dont do ####. Id rather not start taking actual meds, but most of my psoriasis is on my arms and its annoying as hell.

So considering this thread was started in '07, is Humira preferred over Embrel these days? Even besides the psoriasis, I think I might have rheumatoid arthritis, but it could just as easily be psoriatic arthritis as Ive only noticed that as well in the past year.
What topicals? I agree some of them don't do much. Clobex spray is a beast, you have to use it sparingly, but it knocks the #### out of psoriasis.
My dad has rx me triamcinolone, betamethasone, and clobetasol - all topicals/ointments. Clobetasol is the only one Id say I actually see a difference - not as silvery/plaquish - but it doesnt totally get rid of the psoriasis by any means. Judging by the name, Im guessing its similar to clobex.

 
I am looking at this. I'm really sick of dealing with psoriasis. It's all over my scalp line and I had a brutal outbreak this summer. But I'm nervous about how potent it is.
What do you use? I use Luxiq and it works very effectively for me. Stress brings it on like a motha####er though.
honestly, nothing. The only two things I tried are the topical creams which I hate using, and the light treatments which work, but are very expensive. I have just learned to deal with it, because I also don't want to take an immunosuppressant or screw with anything with my kidneys or liver.
The 10 year studies seem to show that it's safe and shouldn't increase any other health risks. It's early in the research, but it may lower your risk of heart disease. You guys know psoriasis doesn't just happen on the outside, but also the inside and it messes with your cardiovascular system. Psoriasis looks like a pretty strong independent risk factor for heart disease and strokes. Topical and lift treatments don't impact those concerns.
Which drug are you alluring to here with the studies? Only one I see is Luxiq and as a nurse Ive never seen that rx once.
Which RX haven't you seen? Are you a nurse in derm?
Nah, Im not in dermatology by any means and have only been in/out of school for a couple years anyway but Ive never even heard of Luxiq.

 
I am looking at this. I'm really sick of dealing with psoriasis. It's all over my scalp line and I had a brutal outbreak this summer. But I'm nervous about how potent it is.
What do you use? I use Luxiq and it works very effectively for me. Stress brings it on like a motha####er though.
honestly, nothing. The only two things I tried are the topical creams which I hate using, and the light treatments which work, but are very expensive. I have just learned to deal with it, because I also don't want to take an immunosuppressant or screw with anything with my kidneys or liver.
The 10 year studies seem to show that it's safe and shouldn't increase any other health risks. It's early in the research, but it may lower your risk of heart disease. You guys know psoriasis doesn't just happen on the outside, but also the inside and it messes with your cardiovascular system. Psoriasis looks like a pretty strong independent risk factor for heart disease and strokes. Topical and lift treatments don't impact those concerns.
Which drug are you alluring to here with the studies? Only one I see is Luxiq and as a nurse Ive never seen that rx once.
Which RX haven't you seen? Are you a nurse in derm?
Nah, Im not in dermatology by any means and have only been in/out of school for a couple years anyway but Ive never even heard of Luxiq.
This is it. It looks like it's the foam version of betamethasone. Works great on the scalp.

 
Most topicals are steroid creams, used primarily to knock the plaques and flakes off. I don't know if they actually treat the underlying pink part of the spot if that makes sense.

 
Just started getting psoriasis within the past year. Im a nurse, my pops is a MD, so basically I self diagnosed it and he's prescribed me some topical creams but for the most part they dont do ####. Id rather not start taking actual meds, but most of my psoriasis is on my arms and its annoying as hell.

So considering this thread was started in '07, is Humira preferred over Embrel these days? Even besides the psoriasis, I think I might have rheumatoid arthritis, but it could just as easily be psoriatic arthritis as Ive only noticed that as well in the past year.
What topicals? I agree some of them don't do much. Clobex spray is a beast, you have to use it sparingly, but it knocks the #### out of psoriasis.
Clobex works, but it's pretty harsh.
When I used it, I just used it on the weekends, went with something more mild like Dovonex during the week.

 
Just started getting psoriasis within the past year. Im a nurse, my pops is a MD, so basically I self diagnosed it and he's prescribed me some topical creams but for the most part they dont do ####. Id rather not start taking actual meds, but most of my psoriasis is on my arms and its annoying as hell.

So considering this thread was started in '07, is Humira preferred over Embrel these days? Even besides the psoriasis, I think I might have rheumatoid arthritis, but it could just as easily be psoriatic arthritis as Ive only noticed that as well in the past year.
What topicals? I agree some of them don't do much. Clobex spray is a beast, you have to use it sparingly, but it knocks the #### out of psoriasis.
My dad has rx me triamcinolone, betamethasone, and clobetasol - all topicals/ointments. Clobetasol is the only one Id say I actually see a difference - not as silvery/plaquish - but it doesnt totally get rid of the psoriasis by any means. Judging by the name, Im guessing its similar to clobex.
Yeah, that's the active ingredient. If that doesn't do much for you, I would look into Humera, it works wonders.

 
I am looking at this. I'm really sick of dealing with psoriasis. It's all over my scalp line and I had a brutal outbreak this summer. But I'm nervous about how potent it is.
What do you use? I use Luxiq and it works very effectively for me. Stress brings it on like a motha####er though.
honestly, nothing. The only two things I tried are the topical creams which I hate using, and the light treatments which work, but are very expensive. I have just learned to deal with it, because I also don't want to take an immunosuppressant or screw with anything with my kidneys or liver.
The 10 year studies seem to show that it's safe and shouldn't increase any other health risks. It's early in the research, but it may lower your risk of heart disease. You guys know psoriasis doesn't just happen on the outside, but also the inside and it messes with your cardiovascular system. Psoriasis looks like a pretty strong independent risk factor for heart disease and strokes. Topical and lift treatments don't impact those concerns.
Which drug are you alluring to here with the studies? Only one I see is Luxiq and as a nurse Ive never seen that rx once.
Which RX haven't you seen? Are you a nurse in derm?
Nah, Im not in dermatology by any means and have only been in/out of school for a couple years anyway but Ive never even heard of Luxiq.
This is it. It looks like it's the foam version of betamethasone. Works great on the scalp.
Olux is another foam that works well (may contain same active ingredients). I have used it on my scalp.

 
I am looking at this. I'm really sick of dealing with psoriasis. It's all over my scalp line and I had a brutal outbreak this summer. But I'm nervous about how potent it is.
What do you use? I use Luxiq and it works very effectively for me. Stress brings it on like a motha####er though.
honestly, nothing. The only two things I tried are the topical creams which I hate using, and the light treatments which work, but are very expensive. I have just learned to deal with it, because I also don't want to take an immunosuppressant or screw with anything with my kidneys or liver.
The 10 year studies seem to show that it's safe and shouldn't increase any other health risks. It's early in the research, but it may lower your risk of heart disease. You guys know psoriasis doesn't just happen on the outside, but also the inside and it messes with your cardiovascular system. Psoriasis looks like a pretty strong independent risk factor for heart disease and strokes. Topical and lift treatments don't impact those concerns.
Which drug are you alluring to here with the studies? Only one I see is Luxiq and as a nurse Ive never seen that rx once.
Humira study

htthttp://www.medpagetoday.com/rheumatology/arthritis/38106

 
I am looking at this. I'm really sick of dealing with psoriasis. It's all over my scalp line and I had a brutal outbreak this summer. But I'm nervous about how potent it is.
What do you use? I use Luxiq and it works very effectively for me. Stress brings it on like a motha####er though.
honestly, nothing. The only two things I tried are the topical creams which I hate using, and the light treatments which work, but are very expensive. I have just learned to deal with it, because I also don't want to take an immunosuppressant or screw with anything with my kidneys or liver.
The 10 year studies seem to show that it's safe and shouldn't increase any other health risks. It's early in the research, but it may lower your risk of heart disease. You guys know psoriasis doesn't just happen on the outside, but also the inside and it messes with your cardiovascular system. Psoriasis looks like a pretty strong independent risk factor for heart disease and strokes. Topical and lift treatments don't impact those concerns.
Which drug are you alluring to here with the studies? Only one I see is Luxiq and as a nurse Ive never seen that rx once.
Which RX haven't you seen? Are you a nurse in derm?
Nah, Im not in dermatology by any means and have only been in/out of school for a couple years anyway but Ive never even heard of Luxiq.
This is it. It looks like it's the foam version of betamethasone. Works great on the scalp.
Olux is another foam that works well (may contain same active ingredients). I have used it on my scalp.
I have used it before, but it got to the point where it wasn't working much so my derm switched me to Luxiq.

 
I am looking at this. I'm really sick of dealing with psoriasis. It's all over my scalp line and I had a brutal outbreak this summer. But I'm nervous about how potent it is.
What do you use? I use Luxiq and it works very effectively for me. Stress brings it on like a motha####er though.
honestly, nothing. The only two things I tried are the topical creams which I hate using, and the light treatments which work, but are very expensive. I have just learned to deal with it, because I also don't want to take an immunosuppressant or screw with anything with my kidneys or liver.
The 10 year studies seem to show that it's safe and shouldn't increase any other health risks. It's early in the research, but it may lower your risk of heart disease. You guys know psoriasis doesn't just happen on the outside, but also the inside and it messes with your cardiovascular system. Psoriasis looks like a pretty strong independent risk factor for heart disease and strokes. Topical and lift treatments don't impact those concerns.
Which drug are you alluring to here with the studies? Only one I see is Luxiq and as a nurse Ive never seen that rx once.
Which RX haven't you seen? Are you a nurse in derm?
Nah, Im not in dermatology by any means and have only been in/out of school for a couple years anyway but Ive never even heard of Luxiq.
This is it. It looks like it's the foam version of betamethasone. Works great on the scalp.
Olux is another foam that works well (may contain same active ingredients). I have used it on my scalp.
I have used it before, but it got to the point where it wasn't working much so my derm switched me to Luxiq.
The most screwed up thing about psoriasis is about it comes and goes. Sometimes, I barely have it and just need a mild topical to control it and then out of nowhere they all stop working and it takes off and I need heavy duty meds to control it. It doesn't even seem to correlate with stress. The one thing that is for sure true is that I need to move to the Florida. Higher humidity, sun, and salt water do wonders. The Michigan winter (and the dry air from the furnace) is a #####. Although, it makes me concerned knowing it is messing with my arteries and #### as well. I will keep an eye on studies in the future, but I think Humira (or a similar med) might end up being the way to go because it actually treat the cause.

 
Stelara is, far and away, the best injectable for psoriasis. That's what I was on in a study that I alluded to before (under my old name).

 
Stelara is, far and away, the best injectable for psoriasis. That's what I was on in a study that I alluded to before (under my old name).
That's what I use now. Only problem/complaint is that it is so long between injections, I have trouble keeping my appointments. Usually the pharmacy calls me and gets approval to ship it to the doc (cannot self-inject it). But sometime they forget. Seems dumb since Humera was running about 35K a year and its cheaper than Stelara

 
Stelara is, far and away, the best injectable for psoriasis. That's what I was on in a study that I alluded to before (under my old name).
That's what I use now. Only problem/complaint is that it is so long between injections, I have trouble keeping my appointments. Usually the pharmacy calls me and gets approval to ship it to the doc (cannot self-inject it). But sometime they forget. Seems dumb since Humera was running about 35K a year and its cheaper than Stelara
The price is nuts. When I was using Humira, I got a card (from my doc, not my insurance company), everytime I got a new pack of shots, it was $10. The card was from Humira so I have no clue who is paying for it (if it is Humira, how are they making money?) Last time I saw my dermatologist, I mentioned how my 5 day trip to Cancun in January cleared my psoriasis up and joked if he could get Blue Cross to pay for me to go to Mexico 4x a year. He said it would save them a lot of money to do so. I couldn't believe how much the shots cost.

 
Stelara is, far and away, the best injectable for psoriasis. That's what I was on in a study that I alluded to before (under my old name).
That's what I use now. Only problem/complaint is that it is so long between injections, I have trouble keeping my appointments. Usually the pharmacy calls me and gets approval to ship it to the doc (cannot self-inject it). But sometime they forget. Seems dumb since Humera was running about 35K a year and its cheaper than Stelara
The price is nuts. When I was using Humira, I got a card (from my doc, not my insurance company), everytime I got a new pack of shots, it was $10. The card was from Humira so I have no clue who is paying for it (if it is Humira, how are they making money?) Last time I saw my dermatologist, I mentioned how my 5 day trip to Cancun in January cleared my psoriasis up and joked if he could get Blue Cross to pay for me to go to Mexico 4x a year. He said it would save them a lot of money to do so. I couldn't believe how much the shots cost.
I was lucky to have a dermatologist who always had Stelara samples on hand. After I moved, I was told I could self-inject after picking it up from the pharmacy.

Cost? $2500.

####. that.

 
Anyone have experience with the new IL-17 targeted psoriasis injectables (Cosentyx and others)? They're supposed to be a step up from Stelara which goes after IL-12 and IL-23. There are a few companies that have them in the clinical trial stage which means possible free access to them and with Cosentyx (made by Novartis) already approved, it seems they're likely to be safe/effective.

 
My wife has psoriasis and recently switched to a ketogenic diet -- high fat, especially saturated fats, animal fats and coconut oil, very low carb, moderate protein. It's an extremely healthy diet despite all the myths out there about fat. In addition to weight loss and improved cholesterol numbers, the psoriasis is 98% cleared. Just thought I'd share.

 

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