Emmit Smith promoted to ARI starting RB! (1 Viewer)

[goonsquad]

This is why I don't like leagues with early (June) drafts. Way too much can happen between now and September. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out, but I'd still guess Shipp will get plenty of carries. Old man Emmitt doesn't have the legs for 200+ carries anymore.

 

[LHUCKS]

This is why I don't like leagues with early (June) drafts. Way too much can happen between now and September. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out, but I'd still guess Shipp will get plenty of carries. Old man Emmitt doesn't have the legs for 200+ carries anymore.

This is why I like leagues in June. Let the unwise take risky picks...I'll take Curtis Martin every time, every year.

 

[bagger]

EMMITT SMITH HAS NO CHANCE

:rotflmao:

 

[flooredyas]

Dumbfounded is the best word I can think of right now to describe my state of mind. Should be interesting to see what transpires beginning 8/2 when the Cards trek off to open up training camp. For right now, I would suggest current owners to obviously be concerned, but there is still a long time to opening game. Living here in Phx., there has been NO mention of this occuring at all, so at present, I'm going to take this with a grain of salt. No, I don't currently own Shipp. Could be Green's way of lighting a fire under Marcel as others have already been demoted as well, with perhaps the same final goal in mind. Time will tell.

 

[pigskinliquors]

I was thinking Arizona could finish 6-10 or 7-9 based on the potential to have an explosive offense. If this report is indeed true, and Emmitt is "named" the starter, I totally discredit Denny Green and the capability of the Arizona offense. If this is true, 4-12 season is on the horizon.

Which would make the 1st rounder that the Vikings get for Onterio a VERY sweet deal!

 

[salmonstud]

bagger just got hit with a whammy and HAS NO CHANCE!

Nice! It's been awhile since I've heard a catch phrase from that great 80's game show "Press Your Luck".

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

This news posted about an hour ago on Arizona Tribune. Looks legit to me.

Green names Emmitt Smith starting running backBy Darren Urban, TribuneIn a somewhat surprising move, Arizona Cardinals coach Dennis Green has decided to elevate Emmitt Smith to starting running back on the depth chart.Marcel Shipp, who had been the starter, has been demoted to No. 2. The Cardinals are completing their offseason workouts with a final practice Thursday morning; Green and the players are scheduled to meet with the media afterward. Smith has not started a game since the fifth game of the 2003 season, when he gained minus-1 yard on six carries against his former team in Dallas and fractured his scapula. The injury kept him out six games and Shipp ended up keeping the starting job when Smith returned. The depth chart stayed the same into the offseason, once Green was hired and after Smith decided to return to play another year. “My pride and ego are not about the job decisions I have to make,” Smith told the Tribune just last week. “I understand what the team requires and Marcel Shipp is definitely the guy to do it. “I signed up to be the starter but I understand what my role is. He’s No. 1 and I am No. 2.” Smith gained just 256 yards rushing last season, averaging 2.8 yards a carry. Shipp had 830 yards and gained 3.6 yards a rush. Earlier in the offseason, even No. 3 back Josh Scobey was getting more reps than Smith. Smith, the NFL’s all-time leading rusher, is in the final year of a two-year, $7.5 million contract.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Go ahead Emmitt, throw another 1,000 on top of the yardage pile and make it even tougher to beat.

 

[Jason Wood]

Dumbfounded is the best word I can think of right now to describe my state of mind. Should be interesting to see what transpires beginning 8/2 when the Cards trek off to open up training camp. For right now, I would suggest current owners to obviously be concerned, but there is still a long time to opening game. Living here in Phx., there has been NO mention of this occuring at all, so at present, I'm going to take this with a grain of salt. No, I don't currently own Shipp. Could be Green's way of lighting a fire under Marcel as others have already been demoted as well, with perhaps the same final goal in mind. Time will tell.

I agree with this. Look, Green has made it clear that he's going to try to reverse the "It's OK to lose" mentality to is embedded into the Cardinals organization. Whether it's admonishing Leonard Davis and LJ Shelton or putting Emmitt into the "starting" role, I believe he views every single player on this team (with the exceptions of Fitzgerald and Boldin) as completely replaceable.Talent or not, this is a 4-12 team...so they can't do much worse. I think this is Green's way of saying, "nothing is guaranteed if you don't earn it." We KNOW Emmitt is a consumate professional. He may have lost most of what made him a HOFer-in-waiting, but you can be sure he still practices hard and knows the playbook. So I read this to be a warning shot across Shipp's bow.I cannot see Emmitt being the starter and main ball carrier IF Shipp is on the roster on opening day. I think this either ignite a fuse under Shipp and he proves himself worthy of being the guy, or he pouts or fails to rise to the occasion and Green lets him go.Just my $0.02

 

[The_Man]

This is the first confirmed Josh Scobey sighting since the horrendous Pay-Per-View fantasy football special that aired just prior to the 2002 NFL Season - the same special where Peter King pimped Randy Moss as the #1 pick in the draft.I can't remember if it was King or someone else, but Scobey was hyped as a great sleeper pick at RB. Someone in my league picked him up in about the 12th round.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

EMMITT SMITH HAS NO CHANCE

:rotflmao:

you know you were thinking that. don't hold back...make a call once in awhile and take a stand.

 

[grouse]

Hmmm. I see a Buccaneer uniform in Shipp's future.Just to complete the trifecta.

 

[Loco Barlow]

I think this either ignite a fuse under Shipp and he proves himself worthy of being the guy, or he pouts or fails to rise to the occasion and Green lets him go.Just my $0.02

If there's one thing Shipp is, he's a true professional. Shipp will not pout, he didn't pout last year when he received a contract extension and then the team went out and picked up record-breaker Emmitt Smith.

 

[Jason Wood]

ESPN finally chiming in...SLOWPOKES!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor..._len&id=1823926

 

[BigRed]

On the other hand, lol @ so many people writing him off as the starter already and the idea of the Vikes trading away Bennett OR O. Smith. 

I don't think we were writing him off...we were speculating that the Cardinals could make a move. I would say the odds are still with Shipp being the main ball carrier...those odds just are not as high as they were yesterday.

Well said.Just speculation right now. I feel confident that Emmitt Smith will not be their starter this year, and very confidnet that Emmitt won't be worth much for your fantasy team.Very curious situation though, to say the least.

OK maybe overstated a little - sure sounded like a lot of people jumping off of the Shipp bandwagon to me though. As for speculating that MIN will trade either Smith or (lol) Bennett, might as well speculate that the Fins are going to trade Ricky Williams. Aint happening folks.

 

[mbuehner]

Go ahead Emmitt, throw another 1,000 on top of the yardage pile and make it even tougher to beat

Now how the heck is Emmitt gonna get 500 carries?

 

[FatRader]

This would be a lot bigger news in mid-August than mid-June. All-Time Rushing Yardage leader or not, Smith's 2.8 YPC as a Cardinal is not good enough to start in the NFL. That will either have to go way up, or Smith will be back on the bench (or at least mired in a RBBC).For those drafting from now until the start of training camp, Shipp becomes a pretty good value pick.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

This would be a lot bigger news in mid-August than mid-June. All-Time Rushing Yardage leader or not, Smith's 2.8 YPC as a Cardinal is not good enough to start in the NFL. That will either have to go way up, or Smith will be back on the bench (or at least mired in a RBBC).For those drafting from now until the start of training camp, Shipp becomes a pretty good value pick.

I disagree. I thought Shipp was overvalued before. Losing his job does very little to increase his value IMO.

 

[Shooter McGavin]

Go ahead Emmitt, throw another 1,000 on top of the yardage pile and make it even tougher to beat.

He's gonna need a time machine or 900 carries to do that. 35 years old + over 4,000 carries = retirement or ineffectiveness.

 

[FatRader]

I disagree. I thought Shipp was overvalued before. Losing his job does very little to increase his value IMO.

It depends on how you value Smith v. Shipp. Starter or not (especially in JUNE), it's not feasible to me how Smith outscores Shipp this year. Considering Smith will likely now be going before Shipp in many drafts, that makes Shipp a good value.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

All-Time Rushing Yardage leader or not, Smith's 2.8 YPC as a Cardinal is not good enough to start in the NFL.

Apparently, Shipp's 3.6 last year isn't either.

 

[Peens]

I disagree.  I thought Shipp was overvalued before.  Losing his job does very little to increase his value IMO.

It depends on how you value Smith v. Shipp. Starter or not (especially in JUNE), it's not feasible to me how Smith outscores Shipp this year. Considering Smith will likely now be going before Shipp in many drafts, that makes Shipp a good value.

I dont think E.Smith will go before Shipp in most drafts even now.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I disagree.  I thought Shipp was overvalued before.  Losing his job does very little to increase his value IMO.

It depends on how you value Smith v. Shipp. Starter or not (especially in JUNE), it's not feasible to me how Smith outscores Shipp this year. Considering Smith will likely now be going before Shipp in many drafts, that makes Shipp a good value.

There's no way Smith goes ahead of Shipp in any halfway decent league.

 

[Resistance_01]

I thought I read somewhere that this was the last day of the last of the Cardinals mini-camps...? What convenient timing to light a fire under Shipp's ### and motivate him coming into training camp!

 

[PhinsFan]

Green can't possibly think Smith can handle the load for a full 16 games...can he? So this has to be to either light a fire under Shipp or next we'll be reading about Green signing Stewart or another RB to start.I hope this is just to light a fire under Shipp and he comes in and shows us all he should be the #1RB on the depth chart. Yes, I own Shipp.

 

[JohnnyU]

Emmitt Smith was available in 3 of my dynasty leagues, but I still couldn't bring myself to pick him up. Hell, I couldn't force myself to drop the likes of Ernest Wilford, Johnnie Morant, or even Jerricho Cotchery for Emmitt.

 

[BassNBrew]

Has a confirmed NFL starting RB ever not been drafted in the first ten rounds?

 

[fosio]

So now that Shipp has gotten the shaft, how secure is McCown - not to say that he's on my roster or that I'm looking to get him. Just curious. Next weeks announcement -- "Shaun King is announced as the starting QB, with John Navarre jumping up to #2".

 

[Football Jones]

This is a perfect oppurtunity for those that really believe in Marcel Shipp to make their move. If you've studied him & like what you see...& have some guts...redraft leagues prices will be pretty cheap & you should get most Shipp owners in dynasty leagues to listen intently. Of course it's somewhat risky, but taking calculated chances is what FF is all about, IMO.

 

[mbuehner]

Has a confirmed NFL starting RB ever not been drafted in the first ten rounds?

There's this guy named Priest something or other that has done ok for himself.

 

[Sinrman]

That 2nd rounder most people are burning on Shipp is gonna hurt, it seems...

 

[BassNBrew]

Has a confirmed NFL starting RB ever not been drafted in the first ten rounds?

There's this guy named Priest something or other that has done ok for himself.

Sorry...I meant fantasy drafts. Smith has been named the starter and I bet he still wouldn't be drafted in the first ten rounds. Now that is sad.

 

[mbuehner]

Sorry...I meant fantasy drafts. Smith has been named the starter and I bet he still wouldn't be drafted in the first ten rounds. Now that is sad.

Ahh, gotcha. Good point. If its ever happened before, it was probably... emmitt smith.

 

[Kleck]

I'm still not 100% sold that this is really the way it is going to be at the start of the season but man, what a bombshell. I haven't been as high on Shipp as many folks are but I thought he would be a serviceable option for the Cardinals this season at least.IF this is true, what a horrible blow for two of the squads in our Survivor challenge. Jason is right! Two owners are sobbing hysterically right now while staring in disbelief at the screen.

SERIOUSLY...everyone has to wait until Monday to find out, but there are going to be some reactions to this, guaranteed. :justreallyreallygladitsnotmehavingtodefendshippasadraftchoice:

I took Shipp on the 2-3 turn. I'm not too worried about it. I'm willing to place some bets that Shipp has significantly better numbers than Smith this season. Won't be shocked when Shipp is starting.People. Its June.Happy about it? Of course not. Crying? Of course not.

 

[FootballFreakX]

Those of you who thought Green would work wonders for the offense, I guess you were just proven wrong. Emmitt has no business being in the starting lineup especially over a healthy Marcel Shipp. I don't care what he thought he saw in mini-camps, this is a mistake........and a big mistake at that. I guess the question is how long will Emmitt hold onto the starting job? My money is on the 2nd quarter of the Cards first exhibition game.

 

[3nOut]

Has a confirmed NFL starting RB ever not been drafted in the first ten rounds?

it may happen a few times this year with Emmitt, George (if he stays) and possibly the Oakland starter whoever he is.

 

[JohnnyU]

Those of you who thought Green would work wonders for the offense, I guess you were just proven wrong. Emmitt has no business being in the starting lineup especially over a healthy Marcel Shipp. I don't care what he thought he saw in mini-camps, this is a mistake........and a big mistake at that. I guess the question is how long will Emmitt hold onto the starting job? My money is on the 2nd quarter of the Cards first exhibition game.

I'm sure there is more going on with this decision than we know and that is obvious. No way Emmitt Smith is the starting RB for even half AZ games this year. I would bet the farm on it. I don't own Shipp in any leagues, but like one poster said, now's the time to buy low.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Go ahead Emmitt, throw another 1,000 on top of the yardage pile and make it even tougher to beat

Now how the heck is Emmitt gonna get 500 carries?

Yeah, you're probably right. I'm as surprised as anyone, I just don't believe it. I'm definately down on Shipp, but that doesn't mean Emmitt Smith is now going to get 300 carries this season.

 

[maccabees]

Heres AZ,s starting unit.WR – X Anquan BoldinWR – H Larry FitzgeraldWR – Z Bryant JohnsonTE Freddie JonesLG Reggie WellsC Pete KendallRG Cameron SpikesRT Anthony ClementRB Emmitt SmithQB Josh McCownDefenseLE Fred WakefieldNT Russell DavisUT Darnell DockettRE Bertrand BerrySLB Gerald HayesMLB Ron McKinnonWLB Ray ThompsonLCB Duane StarksSS Adrian WilsonFS Quentin HarrisRCB David Macklin SpecialistsK Neil RackersP Scott PlayerLS Nathan Hodel

 

[Kleck]

Heres AZ,s starting unit.WR – X Anquan BoldinWR – H Larry FitzgeraldWR – Z Bryant JohnsonTE Freddie JonesLG Reggie WellsC Pete KendallRG Cameron SpikesRT Anthony ClementRB Emmitt SmithQB Josh McCown

Something a bit wrong with this lineup. Grant Wistrom sure hopes it looks like this when they play Seattle twice.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Heres AZ,s starting unit.WR – X Anquan BoldinWR – H Larry FitzgeraldWR – Z Bryant JohnsonTE Freddie JonesLG Reggie WellsC Pete KendallRG Cameron SpikesRT Anthony ClementRB Emmitt SmithQB Josh McCown

Something a bit wrong with this lineup. Grant Wistrom sure hopes it looks like this when they play Seattle twice.

LOLHey, ya never know.

 

[kevthegrad]

Cardinals | Smith Promoted to Starting RB - from www.KFFL.comThu, 17 Jun 2004 10:35:04 -0700Darren Urban, of the East Valley Tribune, reports Arizona Cardinals head coach Dennis Green, in somewhat of a surprising move, has elevated RB Emmitt Smith to the No. 1 back on the team's depth chart. Smith hasn't started a game since the fifth game of the 2003 season, when he gained minus-1 yard on six carries and suffered a fractured scapula.

What?! This has got to be a motivational thing by Denny Green! Right?! I've got Shipp slated to start as my RB2 (yeah, yeah, I'd rather he was my RB3 but where I got him at I feel pretty lucky). Does anyone know the details here? Like, uh, what happened? Did Shipp hit on Green or something... my god man, what's the thinking here?!

Well that's it then....Smith has blackmail shots of Green.

 

[Bojang0301]

Emmitt Smith was available in 3 of my dynasty leagues, but I still couldn't bring myself to pick him up. Hell, I couldn't force myself to drop the likes of Ernest Wilford, Johnnie Morant, or even Jerricho Cotchery for Emmitt.

I agree with this statement and think Smith is only viable in deep leagues and will not be used by any team who expects to finish over .500.

 

[Floyd The Barber]

It seems fairly obvious that Shipp must have caught a case of Hambrickitis and didn't pay attention to the details after being named the starter.Hopefully, this will serve as a reminder to all the young tools who come in here pimping their "next, great" RB (see Foster, McGahee, L Jordan, etc.) who will run a proven veteran out of a job. There is so much more to being a professional than mere physical skills.Even at 35, Emmitt knows what it is to be a pro while Shipp apparently doesn't.Cheers! ickles: ickles: ickles:

 

[ardethan]

Hopefully, this will serve as a reminder to all the young tools who come in here pimping their "next, great" RB (see Foster, McGahee, L Jordan, etc.) who will run a proven veteran out of a job. There is so much more to being a professional than mere physical skills.

I like how everybody who likes different players than you is a "tool". I think that is one of the lessons to be taken from this. Another is that even in redraft, when it comes to unstable situations betting on an RB without great talent is a bad idea, even if he seems pencilled in. There's a reason that Shipp went well behind the other "risky" backs like Duckett, Foster, Suggs, McGahee etc. in most dynasty leagues I saw.

 

[JohnnyU]

Hopefully, this will serve as a reminder to all the young tools who come in here pimping their "next, great" RB (see Foster, McGahee, L Jordan, etc.) who will run a proven veteran out of a job.  There is so much more to being a professional than mere physical skills.

I like how everybody who likes different players than you is a "tool". I think that is one of the lessons to be taken from this. Another is that even in redraft, when it comes to unstable situations betting on an RB without great talent is a bad idea, even if he seems pencilled in. There's a reason that Shipp went well behind the other "risky" backs like Duckett, Foster, Suggs, McGahee etc. in most dynasty leagues I saw.

That doesn't change the fact that Smith is a bum, which you made a quck dash to pick him up in our league, lol. I could have dropped Jamal Robertson for him, but frankly, I would rather take the chance something happens to Barlow rather than take a chance on Emmitt Smith

 

[Emmitt Smith]

Marcell just didn't have enough. Still got my vision and I got my eyes on 20,000 yards.

 

[ardethan]

Hopefully, this will serve as a reminder to all the young tools who come in here pimping their "next, great" RB (see Foster, McGahee, L Jordan, etc.) who will run a proven veteran out of a job.   There is so much more to being a professional than mere physical skills.

I like how everybody who likes different players than you is a "tool". I think that is one of the lessons to be taken from this. Another is that even in redraft, when it comes to unstable situations betting on an RB without great talent is a bad idea, even if he seems pencilled in. There's a reason that Shipp went well behind the other "risky" backs like Duckett, Foster, Suggs, McGahee etc. in most dynasty leagues I saw.

That doesn't change the fact that Smith is a bum, which you made a quck dash to pick him up in our league, lol. I could have dropped Jamal Robertson for him, but frankly, I would rather take the chance something happens to Barlow rather than take a chance on Emmitt Smith

Emmitt Smith > Mike McMahon

 

[lastresort66]

Can I shoot Dennis Green in his forehead?Seriously, Marcell Shipp was gonna be my #1 back in my Zealot league! Now I gotta rely on Curtis Martin?!God help me....

 

[JohnnyU]

Hopefully, this will serve as a reminder to all the young tools who come in here pimping their "next, great" RB (see Foster, McGahee, L Jordan, etc.) who will run a proven veteran out of a job.   There is so much more to being a professional than mere physical skills.

I like how everybody who likes different players than you is a "tool". I think that is one of the lessons to be taken from this. Another is that even in redraft, when it comes to unstable situations betting on an RB without great talent is a bad idea, even if he seems pencilled in. There's a reason that Shipp went well behind the other "risky" backs like Duckett, Foster, Suggs, McGahee etc. in most dynasty leagues I saw.

That doesn't change the fact that Smith is a bum, which you made a quck dash to pick him up in our league, lol. I could have dropped Jamal Robertson for him, but frankly, I would rather take the chance something happens to Barlow rather than take a chance on Emmitt Smith

Emmitt Smith > Mike McMahon

I guess in that case you are right. He's still a bum, not to take away from his past accomplishments.